A Sarah Palin Run For Presidency in 2012?

LaCi - posted on 09/28/2010

I'll absolutely vote for Sarah Palin if she runs for president. Imagine the comedic value of that. either way the country will (probably) be screwed, so why not at the very least vote for the benefit of my own entertainment? ;)

Pamela - posted on 09/25/2010

Palin is a rock star. She's cute as a button, she's saucy and winks a lot. (Yep! You betcha!) And she settles for that - she is no real thinker herself. She presents herself - much like O'Donnell - as "regular" people (never mind that she is about as far from that now as one can get). She's ambitious - but not in a Hilary Clinton way. Clinton is smart as hell and knows her stuff when it comes to politics and governmental policy. Clinton wanted to be president and worked really hard to prepare (we're talking years of preparation). Palin wants to be rich and powerful but she is unwilling (or at least it seems to me) to put the time and EFFORT it takes to be a good policy maker. She's a total non-threat to the establishment.:o/

Dana - posted on 09/25/2010

Haha, the family I have that are conservatives LOVE her but, they have graduated high school. Sometimes I think people don't really think too far into things. :|

ME - posted on 09/25/2010

I have conservative friends and family who dislike her, but I have more who totally wish they could lie at her feet and bask in her glorious presence...admittedly, none of them graduated from high school...but they still get to vote...

Krista - posted on 09/24/2010

I think you nailed it, Pamela. There ARE measured, reasonable conservatives out there. But they're being drowned out by the ones who are waving their arms and yelling.

Pamela - posted on 09/24/2010

Many of my conservative friends feel the same way regarding SP. They honestly dislike her and think she would be terrible for the country. I recognize that she doesn't represent all conservatives in this country - just a fairly extreme group of libertarians who seem to yell the loudest.

Gianina - posted on 09/24/2010

Thank you for the warm welcome back, Pamela. I'll try to stick around, it's still kinda hectic dealing with 'autism', especially with an adult. I am only able to reply 'early morning' or late at night. I do miss the debate group, even those who wanna butt-heads with a conservatives. ;P

As for the choice of word 'impressive' to describe Sarah Palin. I selected 'impressive' because that is what many have described her as such. Now, if I recall, many called elect Obama impressive and he was bashed by the Right, just like how some of you are bashing Palin. This is all fair game.

By the way, I did see that ad (Lady Grizzly Bear ad) months ago and I thought that it was very funny and ...touche !! Touche as "a successful criticism or an effective point in argument". It would be hard to match that ad. ;)

Majority of my conservative friends and relatives would not support Sarah Palin for presidency.
To be honest, I am tired of seeing her in TV... her speech is getting old and repetitive. I would like to hear something new and YES, some solid policy substance. Again, she isn't Ronald Reagan.

Pamela - posted on 09/24/2010

Sara - posted on 09/24/2010

But what does that mean?

Pamela - posted on 09/24/2010

I'm a momma grizzly - but I don't like SP.

Sara - posted on 09/24/2010

I agree, how is she "impressive"? If she looked like Elena Kagan, she wouldn't even be in the public spotlight right now, to be bluntly honest. She adds nothing of value, except that she attracts crowds. But she has no substance. What does she fight for, beside the whole "Momma Grizzly" thing? And even that has absolutely no meaning behind, it's just a catch phrase that people respond to for some ungodly reason. I truly hope you're right, Gianna, that most conservatives do not think she is right for presidency.

ME - posted on 09/24/2010

I don't even think she's pretty anymore...when someone is that ugly on the inside, it shows...

Pamela - posted on 09/24/2010

By the way Gianina, it's awesome to see you're back! I've missed hearing the conservative (and from you, rational) side of things.

Pamela - posted on 09/24/2010

Yep. She has no platform. She is pretty though.

Krista - posted on 09/24/2010

That's the thing: what IS Palin's platform? I have yet to hear, really, about any policies that she would enact, or any ideas that she has. All that I've heard from her is rhetorical talking points and divisive statements.

ME - posted on 09/24/2010

I understand that people disagree with President Obama's policies...I disagreed whole-heartedly with everything G. Bush did (besides parts of his aid to Africa program). I considered leaving during his presidency, but I made it through by participating in protests, and then working for four years to get President Obama elected...but Sara Palin has no policies with which I can agree or disagree; all she does is spread hatred, fear, and ignorance. I would NEVER call such a person "impressive"...She is unintelligent, she is homophobic, she is a liar, she is a quiter...I cannot imagine why anyone in his right mind would support this fool...

ME - posted on 09/24/2010

lol Pamela...I almost said "a plate of spaghetti"...no joke...

Gianina - posted on 09/24/2010

Very interesting reading from many of you. Too bad I didn't see a single 'conservative' reply. This would have been a good 'debate' about Palin (without bashing each other).

hmmmmm... I was just thinking ...which would taste better 'Kool aid or Tea' ? I'm sorry, it's just so funny, I might see a sign on the two drinks.

As a conservative, I survived and didn't move when Obama became president...I'm sure you all will do the same if Palin wins.

My honest opinion, I don't think Palin should run. She may be impressive but she isn't 'Ronald Reagan'.
There are many conservative who support her but feels that she isn't for the president chair.

My two cents. :)

Pamela - posted on 09/22/2010

@ Mary: She's a feminist like you're a ...Free Market Capitalist? A Robber Baron? A plate of spaghetti?

ME - posted on 09/22/2010

She's a feminist like I'm a...
Hmmm...I can't even thing of a sufficient analogy...there is NOTHING that defines SP LESS than "feminist"...

Pamela - posted on 09/22/2010

Here is the Midmorning program I mentioned:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/p...

Pamela - posted on 09/22/2010

My husband keeps saying that he hopes Palin runs for presidency in '12 because it'll be great for the Democrats. I think she has tapped into something that is fueling her for a serious run. Today on NPR they talked about Palin as a feminist. Women are actually responding to this woman as a feminist - but one who represents them (vs. Gloria Steinman). We are in trouble. These "feminist" women will send us packing back to 1916.

Pamela - posted on 09/22/2010

Exactly Mary, exactly. Pretty frightening in my opinion.

ME - posted on 09/22/2010

Yes they are Pamela, and my feeling is that the fiscal conservatives will get on board with just about anything to hang on to all of their millions and billions...which is all they really seem to care about...

Pamela - posted on 09/22/2010

Technically anyway. But from where I'm sitting, I see and hear a lot of socially conservatives are looking with great interest at the Tea Party.

Barbara - posted on 09/22/2010

I think it's important to remember that the Tea Party is not technically supposed to be a socially conservative party, just a fiscally conservative one. I know they get a lot of support from social conservatives, but they are technically not pursuing that kind of an agenda.

Pamela - posted on 09/20/2010

While this is about Christine O'Donnell, the new Tea Party rock star, I think it highlights why Palin has a chance of winning a presidential election. People are beginning to view the Republicans as just an establishment political party and have lost their way:

"Dubbed the new Sarah Palin, she is one of the most ultra-conservative candidates running in the US. The Democrats today described her as a "rightwing extremist" and she is even too rightwing for Republicans such as Karl Rove, George Bush's former political strategist, who described her views as "nutty".

O'Donnell, 41, who began the campaign as a rank outsider, took on the Republican party establishment and won the party's nomination to stand as the candidate for a US Senate seat in November.

Her win is the latest – and most suprising – of a long list of victories by the Tea Party, the populist uprising among conservatives against the Republican mainstream. Victories such as O'Donnell's suggest the party establishment is losing the civil war.

"The Republicans have lost their way," she said. "They have abandoned the principles on which our country was founded. The party establishment died last night."

One of the reason the party's traditional leaders went all out to try to stop her is its belief that she is a weak campaigner and that she inhabits a place so far to the right of mainstream America that she cannot win Delaware, a traditionally Democratic seat. They believed the moderate opponent she beat, Mike Castle, a 71-year-old party veteran and former governor, could.

Rove, talking on Fox News, predicted she would not win the November race. "There's just a lot of nutty things she's been saying that just simply don't add up," he said. This could be costly for the Republicans, he said, in their fight to wrest control of the Senate from the Democrats.

O'Donnell, still high from her victory party the night before, was equally disdainful of Rove, one of the giants of the party who directed party policy for much of this decade. "He said I would not win the primary. His credibility is shot. His analysis was wrong. His pride is hurt," she said.

But Rove is not alone in his assessment. The chairman of the Republican party in Delaware, Tom Ross, said the candidate he may now have to support wouldn't even win a race to becomethe local dog-catcher. "They said the same thing about Ronald Reagan," O'Donnell said, citing in her defence the best-loved Republican leader of recent US history. "They are using the same scare tactics."

The lounge of the normally quiet Fairfax, a motel-style hotel close to a busy highway in Dover, the state capital, was full this morning with TV crews from Fox and CBS. Her campaign was run on a shoestring and lacks the sophistication that party backing and funding gave to Castle. She said she had been outspent by him 10 to one.

Also in the lounge, temporary headquarters of the insurgency, were campaign workers and supporters, many of whom, unusually in US politics, were women. Palin has been encouraging woman candidates such as O'Donnell to stand.

O'Donnell professes not to mind too much the comparison with Palin, whose endorsement helped her win. "I consider that as a compliment. But I am not a clone of Sarah Palin. I have my own thoughts," she said.

She believes in God, guns and limited federal government; she is incensed at the billions of dollars Barack Obama is spending to try to get the country out of recession. She believes the Republican party has turned its back on core conservative values: "It has put power ahead of principle."

If she wins a place in the Senate and joins other Tea Party activists there, she will work to repeal Obama's healthcare reforms and block or repeal as much federal government spending as she can.

The turning point in the campaign came in the last few weeks, after she had been trailing badly in the polls. "As we got close to the election, the polls got tighter. Joe Miller [another Tea party outsider] won in Alaska. The Tea Party Express [which provided her with more than $200,000] came to help. My opponents started mudslinging. All these things created a perfect storm. The mud-slinging backfired."

She claimed she had a two-point lead over the Democrats in the polls before the Republicans engaged in internal conflict, which she described as "cannibalism", and that she was capable of securing a 10-point lead over the Democrats in November. Now, she said, she hoped that the infighting was over and the party would unite behind her.

That might be overly optimistic. The party establishment might opt to deny her funding and choose to concentrate on seats where they think they stand a better chance of winning. Meanwhile Castle is proving to be a bad loser; he has repeatedly refused to endorse her.

"We achieved what everyone said was impossible. With some momentum and determination, we will win in November," said O'Donnell, "with or without the party establishment".

Here's the full article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep...

This is one of the reasons I think Palin is a valid run. God anyhow. What a nightmare.

Pamela - posted on 09/20/2010

I was watching a couple of FOX clips from HuffPost - one with Karl Rove questioning the viability of Tea Partier Christine O'Donnell senate run in Delaware (and winning - which he doesn't think she can) and another with Sarah Palin telling O'Reilly how wrong she thinks Rove is. It hit me then - this Tea Party thing that the GOP helped fund (along with FOX), I think it's backfiring on them. They are Dr. Frankenstein and the Tea Party is the Monster they've created. It's running a muck and they can no longer even hope to really control it.

Scarily, FOX loves Sarah. And FOX News has the highest viewership in this country. My husband thinks I'm crazy but I think Palin - while nuttier than a peanut log and the worst thing that could happen to this country - will run and very likely could win.

Jenny - posted on 09/20/2010

I think she'll run. She's in perpetual campaign mode it seems. I think she's a narcissist and really believes she is the best person to run the country. Did anyone else read the recent Vanity Fair article on her? She is truly a dreadful person but the people who support her are vigilant and will do everything to get the voters out to support her. The left simply does not have the same passion and dedication as the tea baggers do.

I still think she'd lose though as the numbers of rational voters outnumber the crazies still or at least I really freakin hope so.

Kate CP - posted on 09/20/2010

If she runs and gets elected I'm fucking defecting to the UK or Russia or some other place. That woman makes my skin crawl.

Krista - posted on 09/20/2010

I don't think she'd ever actually run. Why would she? She's got all kinds of fame and fortune now, and all she has to do is spout her ill-informed opinions and hate-filled talking points. If she was President, she would have to actually WORK, and well...if she couldn't hack being Governor, then how is she going to handle that much more responsibility?

Isobel - posted on 09/19/2010

I got a basement inlaw suite too...for those closer to the middle of the country ;)

Dana - posted on 09/19/2010

I really wouldn't care if she ran and if she won. The president can't get shit done EVER in this country, no matter who it is. There's also no way I would move somewhere else, this is my country, I'm not about to sit by and watch a bunch of assholes try and change it for the worse. There's no chance of that happening as long as we all stay put and kick their asses in the voting booths.

ME - posted on 09/19/2010

I know what you mean Sara...I am serious too...I threatened to leave when Bush was re-elected, I am TOTALLY going if SP is elected. She and the Tea Party will damage this nation irreparably, and people like myself will not be welcome here anymore. I am certain that I would be in danger, and that at the very least, my job would be in danger, if these people gain any more power. I will not raise my children in a Theocracy, and I will not stand by and watch while the TP takes away the hard-won rights of women in the name of family values...

Sara - posted on 09/19/2010

I am dead serious that I would move to another country if that woman was ever elected President. She does not represent America. She is a fear-mongering idiot and i really doubt her ability to make sound and important decisions. But besides that, the fact that people think she is qualified to be President is what bothers me most. She was a state Governor for what? 2 years, 18 months. Now she's a political commentator on Fox. How the fuck does that qualify you to run this country?

Katherine - posted on 09/18/2010

God, I hope not.

?? - posted on 09/18/2010

I have a large basement in case anyone needs a place to crash until you get on your feet up here in Canada :)

Rosie - posted on 09/18/2010

if she does jenny and actually wins, i will be your neighbor. kelowna looks nice!!

ME - posted on 09/18/2010

I would like to believe that she could not win in this country...That quitting her job as gov., and general lunacy would keep her from getting elected; but, I think that liberals and progressives are too quick to make that assumption. I'm afraid that she has a very real chance of winning if she were to be the nominee, and that makes me sick. I do think that it might be the ONLY thing that could energize the dem. base at this point tho...it will be interesting, I suppose...If she does somehow win the presidency in 2012, I will immediately begin working to leave my country...and I would expect others to do the same. She and the rest of the tea drinkers will destroy everything this country stands for...their marriage with the religious extremists in this country makes them incredibly dangerous!

Theresa - posted on 09/18/2010

This country is going to hell in a handbasket...so why not!?

Jenny - posted on 09/17/2010

I am very supportive of Palin running in 2012.