Death Penalty

Christa - posted on 05/21/2009 ( 9 moms have responded )

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I'm truly torn on the death penalty, I see both sides of the argument and I'm not sure which side to be on. What are your thoughts?

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JL - posted on 05/23/2009

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Lindsey I agree with your assessment about prisoners with life sentences not receiving any perks, but only for those prisoners with highest risk to society and the scum of the earth. I am not for all prisoners not having access to certain things. I have a family member in prison who was convicted for murder. But the circumstances of his situation make me feel like things are for more gray than black and white. In his case he accidently shot and killed a man whom he was confronting for molesting his young daughter. The man he killed was a child molester and my cousins have as a result had to grow up without their father because the system let a child molester out in their community.



I think supermax prisons are a perfect alternative for the worse criminals in this world. Supermax prisons provide the fullest form of isolation possible. Criminals are put in small rooms with only a ,monitor bed, toilet, sink, a small whole in the wall not a window, and themselves. They stay in those rooms pretty much 24/7 and rarely have any human contact. The way the rooms are built have the prisoners completely unable to speak to one another. Security basically keeps in contact with the prisoners through monitors placed in each room and that is pretty much the exstint of human contact. They do not have visitors or access to tvs or books or even a pencil and piece of paper all they have is their insanity. They do get a few times a week to go to an exercise yard but they are sent out alone with a guard monitoring them. They are completely alone and have no connection with the outside world which is frankly what they deserve because they turned their backs on humanity.



Plus I too am weary as many of your are of the death penalty because of the issue of convicting an innocent person and the weight that puts on those souls of those who carry out the death sentence. I also feel like for some criminals the death penalty is an easy way out because they sit on death row still in contact with the world while others request death wanting to become martars for their crazy causes and others thrive off of the attention that comes with being on death row and facing execution they get fan letters and ect. At least in a supermax prison they are alone with noone to oggle over them and make them feel like they are something that matters to anyone. In supermax prisons they are psychologically, mentally, and physicallly punished.

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Quoting Lindsay:

The only reason i have doubts about the death penalty is because you could be putting an innocent person to death. There have been cases where people have gotten off death row and released when dna evidence freed them. Nowdays we have dna evidence right away and the chances of it being wrong are slim.

I think some people really do deserve the death penalty. They can't be cured and I personally don't want my taxes going to feed and entertain these criminals in prison.
I don't think it should take forever either. The families of the victims have to keep reliving the crime everytime they use their appeals. It's just not how I think the justice system should work.
I don't think prison should be pleasant. If they are serving life in prison i think they should work for what they get in prison. No tvs, internet, gyms, college courses and very little outside free time. They are there because they did something wrong they shouldn't get to do anything but serve time. For those that are getting out eventually they still shouldn't get tvs, gym, or the internet. They should get job training and be able to get a ged but i don't think it's the tax payers job to fund their college education. I have an uncle that went to prison for drug related crimes and he got a lot of college degrees while in there and he didn't pay for any of it. I just don't think it's right. So yeah i got a little off topic sorry lol


lol - I hear you Lindsay



 



I'm all for following the model of the Tent City , AZ jail.  http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.sher...



I also would be wary of older cases of death row inmates because of the potential that they could be innocent, but recent  cases should be expedited.  They shouldn't sit on death row using up resources better served to help train and rehabilitate other inmates who have committed lesser crimes.



When a murderer takes away a life, they take away an opportunity for a soul to do good and reach it's full potential.  Therefor I see the death penalty as a just reward.  Their lives must be cut short, because they cut short a life or lives.

Crystal - posted on 05/22/2009

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I am torn as well, but I also see it this way, we can't in good conscience allow these people to live out where they can harm people, but we can't afford to allow them to live on our dimes for the rest of their lives either being allowed to get educations and free cable and crap either.

I am also pro-life, and do not believe in euthanasia. I do not think we have the right to decide who lives and dies, but if someone is going around murdering people then I also think we have to protect ourselves as a society, it wouldn't be much different in my eyes then telling my husband to make sure he stays alive while deployed even if it means killing someone to save himself or a fellow soldier.

Christa - posted on 05/22/2009

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I totally agree with your emotions Tawny. I think rapists are the scum of the earth and the current penalty on them is not nearly enough. I can totally see how the victim’s families would want to see their murderer executed, I know I would, but would you be willing to do it? That's where I get torn. What about the men/women in the prison who's job is to "pull the trigger", aren't they then murderers if nothing else in the eyes of the lord. Are we allowed to take a life, no matter what they've done? How can we scream about abortion, but be ok with taking murderers lives? I do know the difference obviously between an innocent baby and a murderer, but a human is a human and aren't all lives sacred? I'm really just bringing up the other side, because like I said I see both sides and I don't know which side is right.

Tawny - posted on 05/22/2009

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I grew up with a father who was a sheriff and then went to work for the Prison as a correctional officer and we are talking the worse prisons ever. The stories my father would tell us were something else. The men who are in there are the lowest of scum and even lower than that. This is my belief is that they need to bring back death penalty in more states. Im not saying that all prisoners need to be put to death but there are some that have done the worst things imaginable like for example don't you think that people like Charles Manson we all know what he and his people did, the Green River Killer killed 37 people, Dahmer killed and sexually asualted 17 boys and men and also ate some of them, Donald Gaskin killed more than 100 people, John Floyd Thomas raped and strangled 30 women. Don't you think that these people don't deserve the death penalty. Like I said Im not saying that not all prisoners should get this. I also think that Rapist should get a certain thing cut off. I don't think that taking a persons life is right but look at what some of these people have done, the poor people who were killed didn't deserve what happened to them. Im not going off on anyone on here this is a touchy subject. It is just sad that more than half of the men in prison who did there sentences end back in prison doing exactly the same thing they were put in prison the first time. Im not trying to play God I know that we will all be judged in the end. But I don't think that these people deserve to live after what they have done.

Sara - posted on 05/22/2009

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I agree with all of you, I am torn myself. On one hand, when you murder someone and take away their life and their rights, I think you are giving up your own. But, I also don't think that killing someone who killed someone to show that killing someone is wrong is the right course either. That's such a tough call, it's like playing God, you know?

Gina - posted on 05/21/2009

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The only reason I would have a doubt too would be because of innocent people wrongly accused. But like Lindsay said, we have DNA evidence now that makes it a lot harder to put someone innocent in jail. I do think that if we had stiffer penalties for criminals, they would think twice about commiting a crime. When it comes to someone who has murdered and molested a child, I wish they would bring back the electric chair.

Lindsay - posted on 05/21/2009

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The only reason i have doubts about the death penalty is because you could be putting an innocent person to death. There have been cases where people have gotten off death row and released when dna evidence freed them. Nowdays we have dna evidence right away and the chances of it being wrong are slim.



I think some people really do deserve the death penalty. They can't be cured and I personally don't want my taxes going to feed and entertain these criminals in prison.

I don't think it should take forever either. The families of the victims have to keep reliving the crime everytime they use their appeals. It's just not how I think the justice system should work.

I don't think prison should be pleasant. If they are serving life in prison i think they should work for what they get in prison. No tvs, internet, gyms, college courses and very little outside free time. They are there because they did something wrong they shouldn't get to do anything but serve time. For those that are getting out eventually they still shouldn't get tvs, gym, or the internet. They should get job training and be able to get a ged but i don't think it's the tax payers job to fund their college education. I have an uncle that went to prison for drug related crimes and he got a lot of college degrees while in there and he didn't pay for any of it. I just don't think it's right. So yeah i got a little off topic sorry lol

JL - posted on 05/21/2009

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I am also personally torn on this subject. I did a study on supermax prisons when they were first introduced and wrote a paper on them a couple years ago as an alternative to the death penatly. Supermax prisons are specifically designed for high level dangerous prisoners who are meant to never get out. They are kept in almost total isolation with little to no human contact and they are impossible to escape out of. I see and understand both sides of the subject and am thankful that I have not had to ever make that call.

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