laura bush is pro choice and...

?? - posted on 05/17/2010

Hey, just a side thought here... don't ya think it's pretty messed up that a statement like that, one that implies that a black man in office is a sign of impending apocalypse, is even taken seriously at all? How many crazy people are saying this kind of thing that people are actually taking it seriously and thinking that there are people that actually believe that crap, rather than knowing that it's a joke.... lol

That's a very awkward thought and kind of makes me worry for the collective psyche of our world hahaha

?? - posted on 05/17/2010

LMAO oh shit, sorry !!!!! hahahaha

I guess I should have put a disclaimer !!! I was being very sarcastic, poking fun at the people who have stated around COM that they think Obama is the sign of the end of the world... making a joke about it because it's laughable!!

I sincerely apologize for the lack of communication on my part! And thank you Mary for posting and clarifying before that blew up haha

Krista - posted on 05/17/2010

It WAS pretty subtle. :)

ME - posted on 05/17/2010

No worries; jokes and sarcasm don't always translate well...

Jane - posted on 05/17/2010

Mary - thanks for clearing that up. Sorry Jo...I love sarcasm and obviously I haven't been around long enough to recognize it.

ME - posted on 05/17/2010

Jane, Jo didn't mean that the way you think she did...many of us have known one another a long time, and have learned to recognize sarcasm, etc., based on our "relationships"...please don't be offended...Jo...not trying to butt in, just thought I'd put a stop to it right now!

Jane - posted on 05/17/2010

@Jo - what is wrong with a black man in office? I find that very offensive!!!!! AND, as a Canadian, how dare you!!!!!

?? - posted on 05/17/2010

Who knows what ANYONE would do if Arnold were running for president... if I were an American, I'd most probably be looking to become a citizen of another country!!!



As a Canadian though, I'd have to laugh, then cry, then laugh, then cry some more and hope to high hell he doesn't get elected cause that WOULD be the sign of the impending apocolypse!



You know which one I'm talkin about... a black man in office isn't a very good sign at all but... Terminator... if that ain't a sign of imminent doom, I don't know what is!

Diane - posted on 05/17/2010

Actually after second thought while I do admire Maria who knows what she would do if Arnold were running for president.

ME - posted on 05/16/2010

Influential folks who lie about their beliefs have an effect on people who find them influential...that's the difference it makes...

ME - posted on 05/16/2010

umm...I don't hate GWBush...I actually compared him to my hubby on another thread recently...please stop putting words in my mouth...I don't hate anyone...

Diane - posted on 05/16/2010

This does not surprise me.

Politicians and families do this because they have to build up a certain image to get elected.

They would say or do anything to get elected. They make promises during their campaigns they have no intention of keeping. (Obama and ending the war) Laura was more like a stepford wife in my opinion. While she did not make waves, I am sure she had opinions on issues and I am sure there was a lot of fighting privately btw she and George.

Many presidential couples do not even sleep in the same room. The Clintons certainly did not especially when they traveled.



Lately Cindy McCain has come out of her closet and all of a sudden is pro gay marriage, pro-abortion. McCain who teamed with Kennedy to give illegals amnesty...never did a darn thing for our state and now all his ads say how he is pro-wall, pro-securing the border. He is a hypocrite.

But look at others.



"Another area that concerns me greatly, namely because I know how it has been used with regard to race, is the psycholinguistics involved in this whole issue of abortion. If something can be dehumanized through the rhetoric used to describe it, then the major battle has been won. Those advocates of taking life prior to birth do not call it killing or murder, they call it abortion. They further never talk about aborting a baby because that would imply something human. Rather they talk about aborting the fetus. Fetus sounds less than human and therefore can be justified."





… What happens to the mind of a person, and the moral fabric of a nation, that accepts the aborting of the life of a baby without a pang of conscience? What kind of a person, and what kind of a society will we have 20 years hence if life can be taken so casually?"

Jesse Jackson



In a now-famous 1971 letter to a constituent, the senator wrote that "human life, even at its earliest stages, has a certain right which must be recognized -- the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old." But Kennedy thereafter became an unwavering proponent of abortion-on-demand. He voted several times -- in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2003 -- against a proposal to ban the late-term procedure commonly known as "partial-birth abortion.



Teddy Kennedy



Al Gore also changed his position on issues. Look at the issues and look how politicians change on them.



Mary, when you say you wish she had told you sooner, would you have hated Bush more or less? Like what difference would that have made?



And I know I will be bashed again for my views on this, which I do not care my views on this will not change...

This shows and confirms in my mind that people who also claim to believe in Christ, who claim to be Christian in word and deed, simply are not. Not in the truest sense of the Word. The bible is clear about abortion and marriage.



I wish I had known this last week. She came to promote her book and had a signing at Costco. I would have gone and asked her a few questions. I did not buy her book and I probably will not now just because she obviously lies about who she is.

While I do not like Maria Shrivers political positions, I don't really even care for Arnold....I do admire her for standing up and not pretending to be something she is not for gain.

ME - posted on 05/15/2010

I totally agree Jenny...it's completely effed up! There's this idea in feminist philsophy (ethics mostly) that's called Praxis. If you don't act on your beliefs, or make a commitment to them in some way, then you are sorta fooling yourself. For example, if you really believe that the LGBT community should have equal rights, you will be fighting for those rights. You can't just say something when it's convenient.

I think Maria Shriver is fabulous as well!

Jenny - posted on 05/15/2010

Women like Laura Bush and Cindy McCain piss me off. They were in prime positions to make their stance known on these issues when something could be done about it. Because of their husband's politics they chose not to. That is a really dick move to me. I adore women like Maria Shriver who can be both a supportive wife but not agree politically publicly.

Krista - posted on 05/15/2010

No person is 100% good or 100% evil. Do I think GWB is evil? No. But do I think he did some evil things? Absolutely.

I know his type: He's the mocking, grinning frat boy who never really had to work for anything, and who thinks it's the height of hilarity to hurt or embarrass other people. He's that guy who always takes the joke 3 steps too far, and when people get angry, he gets all butthurt and says, "Jeez...can't you take a joke?" He has absolutely no interest in the world around him, thinking that other cultures are either boring or funny. He likes to put on airs of being manly and macho (clearing brush at the ranch, wearing that flight suit during the "Mission Accomplished" pony show), because deep down, he's insecure and is comparing himself to his daddy's friends.

He's a self-absorbed little shit with a big ego. In other words, he's a typical politician, but with a much less functional intellect.

Sara - posted on 05/15/2010

**shudders**

Dana - posted on 05/15/2010

I can't even imagine him in the sack....lol

Sara - posted on 05/15/2010

I guess he had lofty goals...maybe that's what she liked. And maybe he's a dynamo in the sack.

ME - posted on 05/15/2010

Oh...I don't know...I married a goofy guy...and he perfectly balances my seriousness and intensity...however, I would NEVER suggest that my hubby run for president...

Sara - posted on 05/15/2010

Yeah, I recognize that Dana, and honestly I don't think GW is a horrible person either. I can see that he was doing what he thought was best, even if it wasn't something I agree with. What I didn't like is that he just didn't project himself in a very intelligent way sometimes, as as my representative in the world, when you try to give the German PM a back rub, it's embarrassing for me.

I was just saying that even before the political career, I don't think I would have been attracted to the guy as a potential mate, what with the substance abuse and not great business instincts...just doesn't seem very secure.

Dana - posted on 05/15/2010

I've wondered the same thing Sara. Of course though, I don't think George Bush is as bad as most liberals do. Do I think he was a horrible choice for a President, yes. Do I think he's a horrible person, no. Even George is pro-choice, he just had to say he was pro-life to get Republican support.

Sara - posted on 05/15/2010

I honestly always liked Laura Bush. I've always wondered what the hell she saw in George? Aside from his politics, what would attract you to an alcoholic guy who had so many failed business ventures financed by his dad? Guess we'll never know.

Dana - posted on 05/14/2010

I always knew she was pro-choice, I didn't know she was pro gay marriage though. Nice...