"I Was Spanked and I'm Fine!"

Jenni - posted on 06/17/2011 ( 8 moms have responded )

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"I Was Spanked And I'm Fine!"

by Jan Hunt





We hear it all the time, when spanking is mentioned. Someone steps forward and says something like this:

"Well, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I was spanked, and I'm fine. We all know that sometimes spanking is necessary for solving problems with kids. And since it's both necessary and harmless, it should be allowed and even encouraged."



At face value, this seems to be an airtight case; a perfectly logical justification of spanking as part of the necessary discipline of children. And a lot of people see it that way. But is it really so logical? Is spanking necessary? And is it as harmless as so many believe it to be?



Let's examine the argument:



"I was spanked." (fact)

"I'm fine." (opinion)

"Sometimes spanking is necessary for solving problems with kids." (false assumption)

"Since it's both necessary and harmless, it should be allowed and even encouraged." (illogical conclusion)

Now let's consider a similar argument that seems to justify smoking:



"George Burns smoked all his life from his teenage years on." (fact)

"He was in reasonably good health all his life and lived to be 100." (fact)

"Sometimes smoking is necessary for coping with life's problems." (false assumption)

"It should be allowed and even encouraged." (illogical conclusion)

This analogy should help to make it clear that the spanking argument, like the one on smoking, is based on false assumptions and leads to illogical conclusions. Some children, like some smokers, are less affected than others because of a natural emotional resiliency, just as Mr. Burns must have had physical resilience. Some children, like some smokers, are less harmed than others because of mitigating factors, such as the presence of other adults who treat them with love and care. To the extent that a spanked child is really "fine", it is in spite of, not because of, the punishments they have received. Mr. Burns must have had mitigating factors too. Perhaps his strict regimen of daily exercise helped him to fare better than other smokers, or perhaps he inherited a strong constitution. And research shows that laughter can be an important healer, and that many professional comedians live long lives.



For many reasons, George Burns was one of the survivors among frequent smokers. And for many reasons, there are also "survivors" of spanking. But we can never know just how much happier and more fulfilled they might have been had they been gently guided instead of being punished - any more than we can know just how much healthier Mr. Burns might have been had he never smoked a cigarette or a cigar. Would he have lived even longer, entertaining more people and writing more of his delightful books? Would he have brought joy, laughter, charm and wisdom to yet another generation? Sadly, we will never know.



Like smoking, spanking is not only harmful, it is entirely unnecessary, because there are far more effective and emotionally healthy alternatives. And these alternatives work in the long-term (which spanking does not) because they establish a pattern of good behavior that is motivated by the simple, genuine desire to reciprocate love. As Dr. Elliott Barker has written, "Kids who have their needs met early by loving parents ... are subjected totally and thoroughly to the most effective form of 'discipline' conceivable: they don't do what you don't want them to do because they love you so much!"



Behavior that is based on fear can last only until the child is old enough not to fear defying the parent. Punishment builds anger and resentment within the child that will inevitably be expressed at a future time (angry teenagers do not fall from the sky). In contrast, behavior that is based on mutual love and trust will last through all the years of a child's life, and through the entire length of the parent-child relationship. There is little that is more rewarding for a parent than the enjoyment of an enduring, loving and close tie with their child over many years.



Given all of this, let's revise the spanking argument:



I was spanked.

I'm fine, but I wish I were happier and more productive, and better able to love and trust others.

Since spanking is both unnecessary and harmful, it should never be allowed. Our government should ban this harmful practice, as have over 25 countries around the world.

Spanking, like all other forms of punishment, such as time-out and so-called logical consequences, can only bring about temporary and superficially "good" behavior based on threats and fear. As John Holt reminded us years ago, "When we make a child afraid, we stop learning dead in its tracks."



Gentle, loving, and respectful guidance is the only truly effective way to help a child to grow and develop to his full potential as a loving and trusting adult. Spanking is unnecessary, harmful, disrespectful, and unfair. Let's stop doing it!



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What's your stand on spanking? Necessary, unnecessary? If you feel it's necessary as a last resort in which situations is it necessary?

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Liz - posted on 06/19/2011

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OK, you may be fine -- or you may be lying, or you may be too stupid to realize you're not fine. Or you may actually be fine, but not the kind of fine I want for my child.



If someone has scientific studies that show spanking is effective AND good for children, then I'm listening. But "I was spanked and I'm fine" is a statement that conveys virtually no meaning to me.

Chatty - posted on 06/18/2011

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My response to "I was spanked and I'm fine" is always, "ARE YOU?"

What does it mean to be fine? It's subjective and up for debate, which is exactly what the article is about. I think it's a lame and lazy excuse to justify why someone isn't willing to take the take to learn better methods.

In my opinion, spanking is never necessary. People make the DECISION or REACTION to spank, but they need to own that instead of making a false statement that it was NECESSARY.

nec·es·sar·y
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–adjective

1. being essential, indispensable, or requisite: a necessary part of the motor.

Spanking is NOT necessary. Shit happens, people do it, but it's not necessary.

JuLeah - posted on 06/17/2011

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I have never once, ever, encountered a situation in which spanking was necessary.

I was spakned and I am not fine.

I always thought while being spanked, "Why do they hate me?"

I never said that. I have never spoken my truth to my parents'. We don't have that kind of a relationship.

We are not close, though as a kid, I played we were. Mom often asked if we feared her, trusted her ... (guilty maybe?)

We always hugged her and said, "Of course" Which was, of course, a lie.

I know many who say, I was spanked and I am fine, but watch close, they are not smiling, they are not recalling with fondness, they are defensive and angry ... just as they were as children when they said, 'yah, so, I'm fine'

Tania - posted on 06/17/2011

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I have a hard time with the statement...if they don't listen a little smack never hurt anyone. Or someone who states they have been spanking their 2 year old for "ablout a year". That one I really can't wrap my head around. Wyatt is 20 months and pushing limits and its frustrating but I understand that he isn't able to fully communicate his needs and bitting, hitting or tempertantrums are how he deals. I may have to tell him 10 times a day but how will he truly understand when he hits me or bites me and I say "no that hurts Mommy" then proceed to do the same thing to him. Its rather unproductive.

Jenni - posted on 06/17/2011

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I feel it's unnecessary and there's always another solution. I think in a lot of cases it's driving home a point that doesn't need to be driven home. Or that a lesson can be taught with a different method.
Now whether it's detrimental or not probably comes down to the degree and the individual child. Some children are far more sensitive than others. I think this sort of punishment would be more detrimental to highly sensitive children. Also how the child is being spanked and what the child is being spanked for. But to me; the line is so fine of what is bordering on abuse and the idea of abuse is so subjective, that it's a line I wouldn't be willing to tamper with. Especially, when I know there are equally effective measures of discipline that CAN be used in its place.

Can it be used in a loving home as a last resort and not be detrimental? Sure. At least minimally harmful and will have minimal effects on child's overall well-being.
I believe a spank as a last resort in the context of a loving home is not an abusive home but hitting another person, whether it be child, adult, animal is still an abusive act. It causes pain, humilation, belittlement etc. and isn't that what abuse does? Maybe it's only for a moment, and we get over it... but in that moment we are experiencing an abusive behaviour.

As positive discipliners our goal is not to find a quick fix to an undesirable behaviour. We do not discipline out of fear of our children becoming criminals one day because we couldn't make them eat their toast for breakfest that morning. Our goal is for our children to learn why they shouldn't engage in negative behaviours. Which of course can be a much longer process but our larger goal is that they will be able to make positive choices for themselves at any interval. When we aren't around to direct them. Or when someone isn't around to punish them. We want them to figure out why they should make positive choices over negative choices. Because negative choices have negative consequences and positive choices have positive results... not out of fear of a punishment that doesn't suit the crime.

Tyrae - posted on 06/17/2011

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I think it is completely unncecessary. I was spanked as a child, and I still fear my parents to this day. I actually cringe when anything comes at me at a rather high speed. It makes it difficult for me to drive, to walk down a busy street, to play most sports, and do other things. I think that if I hadn't grown up in a house where my parents constantly fought, and threw each other through walls, broke furniture and beat us on a regular basis. As a child I was scared to speak out of line, to look out windows in fear that my parents were having an argument outside and would be spanked for "eavesdropping" while looking at birds. I lived in fear, and I still live in fear while I'm around them. When my hubby gets angry I always back away. He would never hurt me and I know that, but seeing him in that mood scares the hell out of me. I wish my parents had never spanked me, maybe I would be a completely normal well adjusted individual instead of what I am now.

I never want my daughter or any future children to go through what I have gone through. They will grow up with a non-violent way of discipline. A way that will not make them fear me.

September - posted on 06/17/2011

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Totally unnecessary imo. We’ve never spanked our son and don't ever plan to and he is an amazing well behaved 2.5 years old.

Bridget - posted on 06/17/2011

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That is a good article, and an interesting approach.

Based on my experiences as a child I have made the choice not to spank my children. My mother spankeds us often, and went much further than just spanking as well. I was regularly hit with objects, most often brushes, but generally whatever was at hand. I was also shoved into walls, dragged around, punched etc. Nothing ever left injuries- mostly because my Mom isnt very strong- but the general unhappiness I feel when I look back on my childhood is directly linked to those experiences- which were daily. My Mom has an obvious anger issue- she still resorts to violence with us, the last time she hit me we were driving and I was pregnant, she was angry at something I said and she punched me. I think its insne behavior. My main goal as a mother is to be better than my Mother. We were shown love from her regularly, but it doesnt over shadow the abuse. I dont believe it damaged us, and I do believe we are "fine" despite being hit.

On the other hand, my dad was loving and supportive 99% of the time. My memories of him growing up are all positive and fun. He never hit any of us, except me, ONCE. Neither of us remember what I did, but we are both sure it must have been bad, and we clearly remember the moment. Whatever it was Im sure I learned my lesson. The spank didnt physically hurt, and I was at least 10. In that instance I dont think spanking was wrong, and I dont believe I was damaged by it at all.

I dont agree spanking is the best answer, but I think the major problem with it is that it is not used to teach,but to punnish. It is used to humiliate and demean, and is used as an outlet for parents to release their anger and frustration. Thats when it takes a wrong turn and becomes harmful.

Oh Id also like to say that despite my upbringing I am fine- I love fully- in fact Ive been told I am able to love more than most- I trust on a healthy level, I am happy and thankful and enjoy my life. In my case I dont believe there was any lasting damage, other than the lack of happy childhood memories with my Mom. That being said, My mom and I are close, and I do love her. I dont believe my Mom has the capacity to love very much, she loves as much as she can but ultimately its just not a lot.