Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Christa - posted on 01/27/2009 ( 58 moms have responded )

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I'd like to start by saying I am 100% against abortions of any kind, including in the cases of rape and incest. However this is my thought and I'd like to know what others think.



We seem to be stuck in this endless battle trying to get abortions illegal everywhere. Instead why not start with baby steps. Here's my idea. Why not work on legislation that would require a three week counseling program before any abortion is performed. Week one would be educating women about adoption and what resources are available to them if they decided to have the baby. Week two would include education about the psychological repercussions of getting an abortion. It's not something that you get done and go on with the rest of your life. You live with that guilt forever! The third week would be to show them exactly what is involved in the process of an abortion including seeing pictures of the final product. I'd like to add religious counseling, but that would cause too much opposition.



I know a program like that would cost money, but I honestly believe it would result in fewer abortions which would in the end save money. I'd be happy to have my tax money fund such a program instead of being used to line Planned Parenthood's pockets. I think that once people got educated more people would be willing to vote to make the whole process illegal.



I think this is a good idea, but I wanted to get some others insight.

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Tina - posted on 05/12/2012

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I'm on child payments not by choice. I've worked hard and payed taxes for me it's a temporary situation. I get tax taken out of what I get. I've done vlountary work for the salvation army, a place called teen challenge. Any income I do get I report so that I'm not ripping off the government. Everything I own I've worked my but off for I've payed my fair share of taxes. You don't know what has gotten a person to a situation of having to look into government support. You can't blame a mother for doing everything she has to, to keep a roof over her childs head and food in their bellies. There are always those who have children for the money but that's not everyone. There are some decent people who are just struggling. The people that piss me off are those like my ex. He has a mental disability. All because he smoked some bad marijuana when he was 16. He's on a pension. He uses it for all it's worth. I tried to get him to take a part time job while we were together he flat out said I don't want to work. Meanwhile I was working my butt off day and night to try to support the both of us. He blew all of his money on alcohol and video games. I'd give him money to pay bills since I never had time to and he'd blow that too. I ended up giving up my job so I could take care of him because he reckoned he needed it. I got no money I finally left him but I lost a lot. He left me with plenty of debt. Now I'm a mother of 2 babies trying to get a decent job and good childcare. I certainly don't live in luxury I'm just trying to get by. But looks like I have a job lined up soon so I will be giving back once again to society.

Danielle - posted on 05/11/2012

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@ Michelle...I guess since you feel guilty, it's ok that my blood, sweat, & tears support you & your children. Sorry, my bad...how completely thoughtless of me. You & your kids deserve all the luxuries my husband & I work for.

Michelle - posted on 05/11/2012

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Because if you find out you are pregnant at 6 weeks (like I did) and you have to go through a 3 week counseling program then the baby will be 9 weeks into gestation. its a great idea but maybe only a 3 day course or something similar however if you were raped or did not to have sex then no you should have every right to get an abortion, this could be enough for some women to take their own lives as they already have to deal with the fact that they were raped or have been through alot that has led up to this and through mostly not fault of their own. But then again why should they have it enforced on them to not get an abortion they obviously dont want or are not ready for a child, and they may know (as i did) that they will be unable to give the child up at the end of the gestation period



Oh and to Danielle Harris. I am on child payments. I work and every day I apply to every job that I can so that I can get off the payments Im sick and tired of hearing about how people that are on the payments are pretty much irresponsible people that take advantage of it, when I actually feel guilty for being on it but I have no choice or I would be on the street with my daughter!

Heather - posted on 05/11/2012

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Why don't people stop trying to tell other women what to do with their bodies? Nobody can say what it is like to walk in another person's shoes and should not judge. You can't make other people believe what you believe nor should you. Let's start a brainwashing program while you're at it, especially at a time when a woman or girl is already at her most vulnerable. Let's prolong an already difficult decision another 3 weeks and force you to listen other people's beliefs on your own decision. I think education is a wonderful idea. I think the more people are educated and not ignorant the more support other women will get to make their own choices.

Nancy - posted on 05/08/2012

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I love your idea I don't understand how a person could have one done a baby has heart beat after 28 day of being prego

Candyce - posted on 05/07/2012

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Very good idea! I wish they would do something like this!

Danielle - posted on 05/02/2012

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"I tend to see that people who are opposed to a woman's right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy are also opposed to access to health care for poor women and children. Such as Wic, foodstamps, welfare, social security and medicaid.So along with the program you'd like to implement be prepared to shell out your hard earned tax paying money"

Yes, Naidy...MY HARD EARNED MONEY...you want the facts, a woman that works with me that has 3 kids out of wedlock gets a $10,000 tax return every year and doesn't pay any taxes...how is this you ask, it's called child tax credit. If you compare what I make to what she makes and the taxes I pay and the money she gets put in her pocket, and this doesn't even include her section 8 and free healthcare, she makes $18 an hour and I now make $6 and she spends half the day at work texting on her cell phone. If you don't have a problem giving away your money to irresponsible people, by all means, you go for it! But, I'm sick and tired of doing the right thing all time and paying for people that could care a less about the help each and everyone that DOES pay taxes does for them! Why am I being penalized for working hard my whole life, following the law, and providing a stable home for my children??!!

Maybe the idea of them having the child adopted to a responsible family is a really good one. Or maybe even better, let their be a stigma attached to being pregnant out of wedlock again. It's people like you that said, awwww it's ok that you're knocked up at 15, we'll take care of you. And look where it's gotten our country...

Danielle - posted on 05/02/2012

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@ Naidy...there is no need to force any woman to carry a child due to rape in the U.S. anymore. Have you not heard of the morning after pill? This is part of the rape kit when evidence is being collected.

Leigh - posted on 05/01/2012

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I am against abortion in all cases except in a situation where the life of the mother is at risk. Abortion should be illegal in all other situations.

Brittany - posted on 05/01/2012

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I too am against all abortions. I LOVE your idea!!! I really wish we could do this! Educate people about it and how much harm it is!

Naidy - posted on 04/26/2012

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And sorry, having a unwanted pregnancy that was from a rape of all things being a heroic event? Be real, not only is this not heroic by any means... it is intrusive it is disgusting that in the 21st century women would have to be subjected to involuntarily having to carry to term a pregnancy that was forced upon them. It is their choice to choose whether or not they want to carry to term their predators baby. As i said and i will keep saying government intrusion and regulation of my reproductive freedom is not only going against my rights, its damn well repulsive.
And fetal viability is the ability of the fetus to survive outside of the uterus which is 90% at 27 weeks.

Naidy - posted on 04/26/2012

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I tend to see that people who are opposed to a woman's right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy are also opposed to access to health care for poor women and children. Such as Wic, foodstamps, welfare, social security and medicaid.So along with the program you'd like to implement be prepared to shell out your hard earned tax paying money, for the necessities this baby is going to need. Because more often than not, once the baby is here most of you do not want to shell out your "hard earned money" for providing the essential services, feeding and support the child and its family will need. Just saying.... ;)

Helen - posted on 10/06/2011

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No as 3 weeks is too long if abortion is the right decision.

Maggie - posted on 10/04/2011

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not pregnancy in general, no. The same shame and guilt that stems from the rape or abuse. The shame of being a pregnant teenager. You know people will label her a slut or a whore because she's pregnant at 13 years old. Think she would want to explain that to those folks? I doubt it. She would feel guilty and ashamed around the people who did know the circumstances because they know what happened. So yes, guilt and shame. Pregnancy for a rape victim isn't the wonderful, joyful occasion it is for someone who wants a baby. They didn't want the baby. They didn't ask for the baby. They didn't even ask to have sex! Look at it through their eyes.

Mary Jane - posted on 10/04/2011

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I find it interesting that one response was "my body, my choice" ... what about the unborn baby's body? No choice for that innocent, huh? Also, to the next responder, I'm just curious why you think having a baby (13 yrs old and incest or 23 yrs old and date rape or whatever scenario) would add shame & guilt? Our society has so devalued life that we look at pregnancy as shameful and guilty? I think it's sad that although our society has taken away the shame of someone being raped or otherwise abused (back when, it was deemed a woman's fault if that happened - she wasn't where she was supposed to be, etc.), but that we couldn't at the same moment in time make giving LIFE a heroic event, one in which it was celebrated. It's celebrated now if you are single and have a baby and keep that baby, but it's not celebrated if you find yourself with an unintended pregnancy and you choose to see that pregnancy bring forth the full potential of that new life - either through parenting it yourself or through the most heroic gift of all - adoption. It's ok to kill the baby, but it's not ok to give life? Odd, our culture is ...

Maggie - posted on 10/04/2011

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so you think making a rape victim feel worse is the answer? You think making a 13 year old child who is pregnant with her father's child watch a video of an abortion is a good idea? Seriously???? They are already living with the guilt of being raped so we should heap on more guilt because they are pregnant with a child they didn't want and didn't ask for. These people had no control over when they conceived. They didn't get the option of using birth control to wait until they were ready to be pregnant. They didn't get the option of saying "no". I think they should have the option to avoid consequences of a situation that they could not control.
Planned Parenthood gives all the options - keeping the baby, adoption and abortion.
Do you even KNOW how hard the decision is for some people? Yes, they live with the guilt for the rest of their lives but that is their choice. NOT YOURS.

Ashley - posted on 09/30/2011

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Because three weeks is a long time... and when you want an abortion, it's best to get it done ASAP!



If anything, it would only cut down on the number of abortions done because it'd be too late.

Trish - posted on 09/27/2011

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Better sex education...I agree with that. Got to start in depth at high school. Sex education at schools doesn't show kids enough. The kids should take those baby alive dolls that cry and stuff...and be shown outcomes of everything sexual from pregnancy dare I say to Abortion. In high schools sex ed. is sugar coated. It should deal with reality maybe then our kids would stop giving birth to kids. Break the cycle. Abortion shouldn't be illegal...that's just going backwards...EDUCATION is the key.

Amy - posted on 08/11/2011

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Why does everyone bash PP? When I thought I was greg. I went there, got a test, they helped me find a great OBG & midwife & gave me prenatal pills for the week before I got into see the OBG. They never even brought up the word abortion. I am sorry but I take issue with everyone saying they push abortions when I received nothing but care & support from my local PP. Btw I had not been there before that & since I got an OBG through them I have not gone back so maybe things have changed but it just doesn't seem fair to me.

Tina - posted on 08/06/2011

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I don't think they go into enough detail in sex ed. I agree with those people about educating. Meaning that we're taught the basics of how a baby is made. But most teenagers learn stuff from other teenagers or the internet. And have their own ideas how not too get pregnant. Like pulling out and so on. Not only do these ideas put them at risk of unwanted pregnancies but also STD's. Also no contraceptive is full proof. Not every person who has councelling will change their mind about having an abortion but who knows it might help someone who doesn't really want to have one but doesn't know what options are out their to help her cope with a baby. If it saves even a few lives it would be worth it. And like other people have pointed out any other surgery you would be given all the details about abortion should be no different.

Angela - posted on 07/31/2011

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I am personally against abortion and I have never had one. I would NEVER rally outside a clinic, or indeed rally at all because I do not have the right to be the guardian of anyone else’s conscience. By the same token, I do not do anything to help any foetus that is “saved” from abortion – no-one knows exactly who these people are, who nearly didn’t exist because their mothers were considering abortion. No parent that changes their mind (or perhaps had their mind changed FOR them) admits that they nearly got an abortion!

American abortion clinics are often known as “Well Woman Clinics” and they carry out a variety of gynaecological services, of which abortion is only one. However, their main stock-in-trade IS abortions. I live in the UK, but was told this true story by an American relative. This person’s friend was due for the 6 week check new mothers have 6 weeks after childbirth. Money was a little tight as she’d had twins and the local Well Woman Clinic was the cheapest place to get her health checked out 6 weeks after the birth. So she went and had it done. There were protesters outside the clinic but they didn’t approach her. A couple of weeks later, this lady (the mother of the twin babies) was shocked to learn from her husband that Pro-Life protestors had written to him saying “do you know what your wife did on such & such a date ….” They’d traced her address etc … from her car registration!!

Pro-lifers are fond of saying that abortion will possibly affect a person’s future fertility and may cause various health problems. Carried out in the first few weeks, abortion is safer than childbirth and many stories of health being adversely affected through having an abortion are untrue. It’s fair to say that there ARE some health hazards with abortion. This is nearly always with illegal or criminal abortion. Women DO die at the hands of backstreet butchers. Curtailing the availability of safe, legal abortion will create more “business” for criminal abortionists.

Pro-choicers are also sometimes economical with the truth. They say that genuine, factual photos of aborted foetuses are “fake” or they describe such images as “propaganda”. It’s like they’re not keen on women knowing the full, unvarnished truth about the foetuses they abort. My friend aborted at 7 weeks. She says her baby was just an “egg” and didn’t look like a baby at all.

Here is a link with a picture of a 7 week foetus – or at this stage it’s an “embryo”

http://www.i-am-pregnant.com/Pregnancy/c...

Not exactly an “egg” or even a “cluster of cells” – it definitely looks human to me!

And here’s a link to what a 10 week foetus looks like (yes, that’s still the first trimester!):

http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/4523...

Pro-choicers do not like abortion patients (i.e. women that have abortions) to be exposed to anything that might sway their decision, make someone feel regretful or guilty and they do their best to subdue this kind of information. Pro-lifers feel education about abortion etc … is beneficial and whilst they wouldn’t (hopefully) go out of their way to use these factual pictures to make a pregnant (or newly aborted) woman feel guilty, they aim to educate younger women & teenagers before they become pregnant, so they are less likely to choose abortion.

I accept it’s a tough choice to make. I do not agree that every abortion is the decision of a poverty stricken mother or a drug addict, criminal etc …. Ordinary women get abortions too. I once heard that about 50% of British women at some point in their lives will have had an abortion.

If the large numbers of aborted infants went to term and were born, adoption would not be the answer. If every single applicant for adoption was granted a child there would still be excess children beyond the demand of would-be-adopters. Far, far more foetuses get aborted than would satisfy the adoptive parents waiting list.

Someone on another thread said that she would never have an abortion and she has acted responsibly by having an IUD fitted, do you know how the IUD works as a contraceptive?

It prevents a fertilized egg from implanting itself in the wall of the uterus. So …. If life is life and 100% human from the moment of fertilization, using the IUD (or coil) as a contraceptive rather negates the any stance that abortion is wrong because it’s real human life from the moment of fertilization but the IUD is OK!

I am genuine about being Pro-Life, but it’s time both sides of this debate were more truthful. Compassion for other people in their difficult situations (whether they abort or whether they raise a child in some degree of hardship – not necessarily financial hardship) is always better than judgement.

How wonderful it would be if there were no abortions because no-one wanted or needed abortions! Reducing the availability of safe, legal abortion would only send desperate women to back street operators.

I don’t have the answers unfortunately. At least I’m honest enough to admit that.

Tam - posted on 07/04/2009

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I have to agree about the government not wanting to pay for those types of programs. Often they are non-abortion places funded by churches and donations as ministries. We have an awesome one here who will give the girls all the information, not condemn then whatever they decide, but do help them with pregnancy and childbirth, etc. if they decide to keep the baby. A lot of precious little lives have been saved through this ministry.

Another reason I believe the government won't pay for it is because what I've been reading about the Oregon state health plan, which is supposed to be based on "universal health care" planned for the country. If I read it right (and I'll admit, I'm still studying it), then a woman with an eptopic pregnancy is listed lower on the list for treatment than a woman wanting and abortion. If they both go in at same time, abortion gets done first. Again, I'm still studying, but this is the way I understand it to be set up. So, if this is similar to the set up of the plan the government wants to use, a woman who wishes to erase a "mistake" (in her mind) gets preferential treatment over another who might be in pain, and even in danger. If that is true, then something is seriously flawed with the plan. And if the government backs this "rating" system of treatment, then I can't see them paying for programs that would talk people out of abortions.

Just my .02

Di - posted on 06/22/2009

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Sorry Christa I meant pro choice people getting upset about the gory film not pro life. Sometimes you type words and don't even realise until you go back what you have written. One of the off shoots of having 2 small boys....lol

Christa - posted on 06/22/2009

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I think it's a great idea. but I could see parents getting upset. Especially the pro-choice ones who are in total denial about killing a baby. They'd rather live in ignorance then face the truth. So sad. I don't think we'd ever get away with something like that here in the US. :-(

Di - posted on 06/18/2009

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I don't think so. We def didn't but then my husband isn't recognised by the school as anyone important in his daughter's lives, o except when they want the school fees. Its a catholic school and they would get away with it as part of their morality/religion education. It would be interesting to know but I am not on speaking terms with their mother and besides I think good on you school so not willing to find out either..lol My guess would be that the kids are 15+ in age so parents sort of get taken out of the loop on these things. I know some pro life people that would be up in arms about showing some gory film, but hey they use worse tactics sometimes. I know the use of ultrasound made Dr Bernard Nathanson go from pro-choice pro-abortionist to a pro-life anti-abortionist. Education is the key. The ones who object to this sort of thing as too gruesome to see, my standard response is, yes its a killer from the baby's perspective. Isn't it sad that to get our point across that we have to use gore.

Christa - posted on 06/18/2009

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Quoting Di:



Quoting Karin:

My thought is that during the sex ed. class in school they should also be taught about abortion and what is involved as well as see the aftereffects. If they are old enough to learn about what makes a baby they should also learn that abortion is not a form of birthcontrol, and that it is truely a life they are ending. Maybe that will help to promote abstinance.





My sd is 15 and in Year 10 here in Australia. Just recently they had a pro life group go into the school and show a film of an actual abortion. They also gave them the facts about all different types of abortion and how they are performed. The info even went so far as to explain that some poor nurse has to put the pieces together after the deed. She was absolutely appalled at it, as were lots of her class mates. It may not stop the kids getting pregnant but I believe that none of these kids will ever seek out an abortion.  Education before it gets to the pregnancy stage is the way to go.





Interesting, did the parents have to sign a consent for that?

Di - posted on 06/18/2009

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Quoting Karin:

My thought is that during the sex ed. class in school they should also be taught about abortion and what is involved as well as see the aftereffects. If they are old enough to learn about what makes a baby they should also learn that abortion is not a form of birthcontrol, and that it is truely a life they are ending. Maybe that will help to promote abstinance.


My sd is 15 and in Year 10 here in Australia. Just recently they had a pro life group go into the school and show a film of an actual abortion. They also gave them the facts about all different types of abortion and how they are performed. The info even went so far as to explain that some poor nurse has to put the pieces together after the deed. She was absolutely appalled at it, as were lots of her class mates. It may not stop the kids getting pregnant but I believe that none of these kids will ever seek out an abortion.  Education before it gets to the pregnancy stage is the way to go.

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I think it's a good idea but I think the real problem is with sex ed. Sex is forced into our kids lives from every angle and instead of preaching abstinence, which alot of people think is a waste of time because they're teenagers they're going to do it anyway, we teach safe sex. Kids don't understand that BC only works a portion of the time and how many adult males do you know who would rather chance it then wear a condom? A teenager stopping long enough to be responsible is almost nill, I know I didn't. I am not naive enough to believe that one day abstinence will negate the need for abortion or that it would even be a possibility but I am saying let's start at the source.

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Quoting Lynn:

There really SHOULD be some sort of counseling required, and I also think that the woman should receive an ultrasound. I had an abortion several years ago and I truly believed that the baby was just a "blob of tissue", as a Planned Parenthood counselor had told me. I think women should have ALL the scientific FACTS about abortion BEFORE it is performed. After all, it IS a major surgery. If it were any other kind of surgery we'd know all about it. I regret my abortion and have suffered from major PAS. I'm a counselor at a CPC now and I am astonished at the number of girls coming in that have no clue about abortion and about the stages of fetal development. It's pretty sad. Women aren't told about the abortive process because the abortion clinics would lose business. There should be a couple day period between a counseling session and the procedure, some time to get the woman to think this over. PP rushes people to make decisions and can easily counsel them to make them feel like this is their best option. People have to wait to buy handguns, and they should be made to wait to get an abortion as well.



I agree completely. I actually did reasearch on what happens during all types of abortions including late term and I felt sick to my stomach. I used to be pro choice, although I would never do it myself I felt you couldnt tell another women what to do. but when you actually hear and read about the actual procedures you wonder how anyone has the stomach. there's an ultrasound on the internet that was showing an abortion and the fetus was moving away from the needle that was going to inject it with the chemical. When I started learning about this stuff I was appalled.



Then I had a miscarraige that required a D & C, the same procedure they use for early abortions. the funny thing is (or not so funny) is that they NEVER told me what they were going to do. Even though, my pregnancy had ended they still did not describe the procedure. I found out afterward the details and the drugs they gave me. it was odd.



I am sorry that PP misled you. I am glad that you turned the situation around. They have tried to write laws that would require ultrasound and info. before abortion and the politicians want nothing to do with that. I think we will have to spread the word. You have hit the nail on the head, once people start learning more about the procedures they may think twice.

Julie - posted on 05/11/2009

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sex ed - you mean teaching kindergarten kids about "tea bagging"?

Julie - posted on 05/11/2009

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great idea - good luck getting it passed. crazy feminists want NO restraints - they don't want women to know their options, don't want them to see the ultrasound, don't want waiting periods or parental notification none of it - if you ask me its the feminists that are making it all or nothing.

Sarah - posted on 04/26/2009

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That's a great idea. I think that if people were more educated about the after effects of abortion, they would think twice before getting one.

Christa - posted on 04/21/2009

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I don't know when they teach sex ed now, but I learned in 5th grade. I think that's too young to be taught about murdering babies and seeing those images. At that age I don't even think most children know that abortions exist. I wouldn't want my daughter learning the horror that young. Maybe it could be worked into an 8th grade class or something.

Karin - posted on 04/21/2009

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My thought is that during the sex ed. class in school they should also be taught about abortion and what is involved as well as see the aftereffects. If they are old enough to learn about what makes a baby they should also learn that abortion is not a form of birthcontrol, and that it is truely a life they are ending. Maybe that will help to promote abstinance. I am pro-adoption because most people that have abortions could solve it by giving there baby to a family that is wanting to give there love and can't have one of there own. I read the story written by a lady who is the product of a rape. She was so thankful that her mother did not abort her but chose adoption. It was very touching and totally made me look at things from a different perspective.

Kristen - posted on 04/17/2009

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Christa, That is an awesome idea. Where there's a will, there's a way..Start telling others about your idea, you never know what could happen.

Emily - posted on 03/01/2009

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I think that would be an excelent plan, but like you said, money is the problem. I think that half of the abortions would be cut out, if women were just shown a picture of their little baby. If they could see that it is not just a "ball of cells".

Ashley - posted on 02/26/2009

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i agree with you 150 percent. my sister recently lost her baby when she was 18 weeks pregnant and we got to hold him and tell him we love him and just say goodbye. it was so hard seeing as i was 9 months pregnant with my son and she told me it wasn't fair for her to lose her baby when she wanted him, but people are out there killing their babies. she wants to put her son's picture in every clinic that performs abortions so people will see how precious life is and exactly what they are killing.

Alisha - posted on 02/25/2009

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KUDOS! I think that is an excellent idea. Though I dont think any government organization will ever fund it. They are PRO-ABORTION not Life. (Obamamustsee.com)

Michelle - posted on 02/21/2009

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I agree with Mary Jane on taking the stigma out of adoption. There are so many families out there that can't have children and would make wonderful parents and not enough child for them to adopt. I was adopted as a child and feel truely blessed. I am a perfect example of "What if" my birth mother had an abortion. I am a counselor at a CPC and I will tell you most pregnant women never even consider adoption. It is abortion or parent. We need to educate America! I don't think the current government is going to give any money to funding this type of education. So it is up to us to start educating our friends, neighbors and our own children as they grow up.

Mary Jane - posted on 02/17/2009

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I think it would be a great idea - but you are talking about legislators that don't even think that PARENTS have a right to know if their minor daughter is getting an abortion. And, truthfully, militant feminists believe that abortion is a fundamental right and to do anything that would limit that 'right' would be out of line. And, because of the money that PP makes on abortions alone, they will lobby very, very hard (remember, Obama promised to them he would sign FOCA) against such a thing.



I think the most important thing we can do is educate, educate, educate. I saw my son's heartbeat at 7 weeks pregnant - and I don't hesitate to talk to people about that life. I also have an adopted daughter and I tell people how thankful I am that her bio parents chose LIFE. We have to remove the stigma from adoption. It's a long battle, and you are right - making it "illegal" isn't the end goal - ending abortion is, and whether there are laws on the books or not doesn't matter - people's attitudes toward abortion is all that does.

Lynn - posted on 02/15/2009

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Exactly! I mean, once you become pregnant you will never have not been pregnant. You will be a mother, either of a baby who you raise or who is raised by someone else, or a mother of a dead baby. Once you are pregnant your life is changed forever, no matter what.

Christa - posted on 02/15/2009

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That is exactly why I thought this was a good idea. I know of a few people who have had them and completely regret it. Nobody tells these girls about the guilt that they will be left with their entire lives. People think you go in and come out with your life back to the way it was. That's not how it is. :-(

Lynn - posted on 02/15/2009

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There really SHOULD be some sort of counseling required, and I also think that the woman should receive an ultrasound. I had an abortion several years ago and I truly believed that the baby was just a "blob of tissue", as a Planned Parenthood counselor had told me. I think women should have ALL the scientific FACTS about abortion BEFORE it is performed. After all, it IS a major surgery. If it were any other kind of surgery we'd know all about it. I regret my abortion and have suffered from major PAS. I'm a counselor at a CPC now and I am astonished at the number of girls coming in that have no clue about abortion and about the stages of fetal development. It's pretty sad. Women aren't told about the abortive process because the abortion clinics would lose business. There should be a couple day period between a counseling session and the procedure, some time to get the woman to think this over. PP rushes people to make decisions and can easily counsel them to make them feel like this is their best option. People have to wait to buy handguns, and they should be made to wait to get an abortion as well.

Stephanie - posted on 02/15/2009

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I think it is a good idea. It would get attention. Personally I have always thought they needed to take sex ed in high school a step further and include this in that class as the number of abortions and teen pregnancy rates in the states. Education is always a good idea in my book. But who knows maybe they could introduce it in a free clinic or well honestly they make you do all the nutrition courses and such while pregnant if you go to receive wic anyways so why not add it into that.