Abortion..What do you think?

Kristen - posted on 03/25/2009 ( 460 moms have responded )

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so i was watching the news a while back and i saw where a group was protesting abortion. see the anniversary of roe vs. wade was coming up which is the court case that made abortion legal. it seems that abortion rates are the lowest ever since 1974 which i think is awesome. the next thing i know so called "experts" come on saying this actually isn't a good thing because that just means people are continuing on with unwanted pregnancies because they can't afford abortions. it really pisses me off that people consider it ok to play God and stop a beating heart by brutally taking it from it's mother's womb. being a 21year old single mother myself i know it's hard. but how can anyone be so much of a coward that they end a life that they created instead of working their butts off to sustain it and protect it. what are these people going to tell these babies when they are face to face with them in heaven, i'm sorry hunny whatever was going on in my life at the time was more important than giving you a chance to have a life. if you are too inconsiderate and self absorbed to do what you need to do to take care of a baby, give it up for adoption, give him or her a chance to be born. i think if abortion wasn't an option everyone knew that they had, people would be more careful when having sex or obstain from it all together. if ur adult enough to lay down and create a life you need to be adult enough to take responsibility for it. and this crap about it's only a group of cells and it's my body i should be able to do what i want is a cop out. It is a baby from conception! in no way is it right or ok to terminate a pregnancy at any stage, to selectively reduce a multiple pregnancy, or to even end a pregany after tests show the child may have a disability. these tests done at around 12 weeks are not 100% accurate. positive tests could result in a perfectly healthy baby, and often do. a child is not an illness that someone should be able to just get rid of. so in my opinion abortion should be completely illegal, voice your opinion that's the only way things will ever change.

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Tara - posted on 03/27/2009

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You asked "what do you think?" but I don't think you're open to opinions that differ from yours. Well, I am going to be the first...on this thread, anyway.

My view on abortion is: if you don't agree with abortion, don't have one. No one but me has the right to decide what I can do with my body. I don't make your decisions for you and you should not be allowed to make mine for me. When it comes to abortion and adoption, they're two different topics. A woman who becomes pregnant has two choices: whether to parent or not to parent. If she chooses not to parent, then she has two more choices: relinquishment or abortion. I can't imagine carrying a baby for nine months only to give it to someone else when it's born. I know plenty of adoptees who say that they wish they had been aborted rather than having to live a life not knowing their biological family. Harsh? Maybe. But that's THEIR truth. I don't condemn you for your views; you're entitled to think and believe whatever you want. That's only one of the remarkable things about living in the USA. But I'm willing to bet, based on the tone of your post, that you won't do me the same courtesy simply because I disagree with you.

Again: if you're against abortion, don't have one. But don't tell anyone else what she should do with her body. That's not your right.

Krista - posted on 03/05/2012

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Geez, I was wondering why my ears were burning!



And usually, I just exhaust people into agreeing with me, but in this case, you ladies had obviously put some thought and consideration into your opinions, so I figured I should put the same into my arguments.



Unfortunately, in much of today's media and political dialogue, there is no room for nuance, or for shades of gray. You can't fit "I'm against abortion except for in cases where the mother and/or baby are doomed" on a bumper sticker.



So what happens is that cases like that tend to not be talked about.



Are they the majority of abortion cases? No, of course not.



But they ARE out there. And if abortion is made illegal, if more abortion doctors are assassinated, if more clinics close, then the odds increase of those women basically being fucked by the fickle finger of fate.



A term that we liberals tend to use a lot is "safe, legal and rare". And that is my opinion on things. But unfortunately, it seems as though a lot of conservatives leap upon the "legal", instead of helping us work on the "rare".



If we could just stop yelling at each other, and work together to teach people to respect their bodies and protect themselves, whether it's before marriage or during it, you'd see a LOT fewer abortions taking place.



Will abortion ever go away entirely? I'm afraid not. There are always going to be contraception failures, or reckless people who think they don't need it. There will always be rape, sad to say. There will always be drug addicts who wouldn't even know which end of a condom to use, because they're so messed up.



All that we can do is to try to make it rare. And driving it underground and making it illegal won't accomplish that.



What will accomplish it is teaching our daughters and sons that, despite what Rush Limbaugh says, taking the birth control pill does NOT make one a slut. What will accomplish it is teaching them that their bodies are a gift, to not be given casually to anybody who asks. And what will accomplish it is emphasizing to our sons that unless they want to be responsible for 18 years of child support, that they had better use a condom each and every time, and that only assholes try to pressure a girl to have unprotected sex.



Prevention, prevention, prevention. If I have a daughter, I will bring her to get an IUD implanted the second she shows signs of being sexually active. And I will do my best to raise her with enough self-esteem to say no and walk away from any boy who doesn't respect and love her enough to protect her. And I DO have a son, and I will do my best to raise him to be a decent man who respects women and who respects himself too much to be careless.

Leissa - posted on 12/29/2011

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I have had an abortion.I would support anyone who wanted to have one and as well as anyone who wanted to keep their child. It's not my place to make judgments or condemn anyone else or try and TELL them how to make their decisions.I stand firmly by my choice that I made that day. Ive been on both sides of the coin and I know it makes me a better mother and more understanding person. I was already the mother of 2 yr old triplets and fourth child was not something I was in the position to take on and I got on BC right after my procedure. I don't talk about my abortion ever really because how judgemental people can be but I'm proud of myself for having the strength to have an abortion and for being alone on the day of my abortion and still going through with it even though i was terrified. I can't imagine how my life would be had I had another fourth child. I love my life now more than ever !!!!! Having a abortion helped me really appreciate my circumstance and helped me to realize how good of a life I have as a young mother with a strong support system. I don't think I would have been able to stay in school if I had that baby.....I don't regret it but I wouldn't do it again.

Tara - posted on 03/28/2009

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Early term abortions are scientifically this: the removal of a parasite. I know that sounds harsh and I'm not entirely comfortable with it, but it's essentially true. A fetus IS a parasite that is attached to a woman's body and depends upon her to survive through nutrition. Until a 'baby' can live on its own without feeding off someone else for survival, it doesn't get to make a choice.

Krista - posted on 01/15/2012

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I think abortion should only being used if someone was raped, is under a certain age, or because the pregnancy is life threatening. People who "accidently" get pregnant and then have abortions disgust me. Im sorry if my opinon hurt anyone BUT y'all know what happens when you have sex. Condoms and the pill is NOT 100%. If you get pregnant, you should carry the pregnancy threw. Keep it or adopt it out. I am not religious but Im just so sick and tired of people because so reckless and MURDERING a baby. In Ontario Canada, you can abort a baby at 19 weeks. At 19 weeks, this baby has a heart beat, arms and legs. How is that not murdering a BABY?? DISGUSTING!

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Shelly - posted on 12/09/2013

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I heard about that. Its just terrible): I'm a twin, & its common now for doctors to Ask moms if they want to keep both of the babies. Sick.

Shelly - posted on 12/09/2013

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I am So sorry ): You poor thing, that's awful ): And it unfortunately happens quite often.

Shelly - posted on 12/09/2013

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I disagree. Rape is terrible but I couldn't kill my grandchild or force my daughter to have an abortion she would later regret.

Shelly - posted on 12/09/2013

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So true. The poor baby, no matter how horrifying the circumstances, is just that, a sweet innocent baby. It did no harm. It is a Terrible situation and I can't even imagine, but I can only think that the abortion added to the horror. If people Saw the baby they would realize the overwhelming love for it despite any circumstances.

Shelly - posted on 12/09/2013

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I Totally agree with you! I got pregnant at age 22 & tho super scary at the time, my sweet 5 year old is the light of my life! I never even Considered ending her precious little life. Times were tough but everything is great now, & the Moment she entered my world, my life changed for the Better (: The Option of abortion preys upon scared emotional girls who are told its an easy way out. They will end up emotionally scarred by the induced death of their child. In cases of rape, the murder of the child doesnt help the mother recover. Redemption is found thru the birth of the baby which is Her blood. My child's father is Not a good man, but She is an angel. If I had to go back, I'd do it all again.

Katherine - posted on 05/14/2013

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I personally would never get an abortion. That is my personal choice but I also wouldn't be able to adopt my child out or put them into the system. I was taken from my parents at a young age and raised in various foster homes until I was finally surrendered back into my parents custody. Foster care was hard. Mentally as well as physically some days. If the women decides to get an abortion that is her choice, whether the reasoning is medical or personal or for financial reasons. Whatever their beliefs happen to be, they are going to have to live with that choice. Just because abortion is out there doesn't mean you have to get one.

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I know a woman who was raped by her own father and got pregnant. With all of that she decided that she did not want to raise the child but it wasn't the child's fault that it was coming into the world. Its hard to visualize what is in our bodies. the same way a smoker keeps smoking or a druggie keeps taking drugs or an alcoholic keeps drinking because they cannot SEE the damage they are causing to their bodies.

The only ones who see these things are the doctors, nurses doing the procedures and those doing the post mortem autopsies.

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I agree with your opinion. Having had several situations in which I had to face some really tough choices, because OF MY OWN BAD CHOICES, I find, at this point, having sex without a committed, loving MARRIAGE completely ridiculous. Sadly, that is what has become of the feminist movement and our society. Men do not have to court us to get us in bed. They don't have to make commitments to us anymore. They just have women throw themselves in between their sheets and our attitude is "come what may..."

abortion is an option, i believe that, however I believe that choice should be based on fact. Including pictures of the baby someone is about to have murdered. I equate abortion with someone hiring a hitman to kill the innocent family of the person they are trying to get a "message" across to. Babies dont ask to be here. They come here because we bring them here either planned or not.

Giselle - posted on 01/15/2013

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WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was very young when i found out that i was pregnant, and not once did i ever consider an abortion. the way i look at abortion, is that you have sex (unprotected) or not you deal with the consequences. the way i see it is, you have sex , you get pregnant, a STD or STI or any other sexually transmitted disease you deal with it. with AIDS you don't have a choice you deal with it you live with it , you cannot throw AIDS away, then why a baby. kids are miracles, not full stops, they don't end your life, they just start their's a little earlier than expected.

Jessico - posted on 11/08/2012

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Before I start I am in two mind on this subject and I fully intend to stay that way .



To all those that think under no circumstances do you believe in abortion ,God forbid any of your daughters coming home at 13 years old pregnant from rape... your all telling me you would allow her to go though and take responsibility for some one else's wrong doing... that you would be happy to take that child on and remind you daughter of what happened to her for the rest of her life.. or put her though giving birth to give put it up for adoption ... that's just plain selfish on your own daughter that has a life that has been destroyed.



at the legal age of consent it is your decision on what you see fit to do not what others see fit to do

God gave us our minds to do as we see fit .. if having an abortion is what someone sees fit to do that that is up to them.



Not everyone is cut out in this world to be a mother and so many children live in children s homes that theirs not even enough foster parents can look after them and that's OK for society to be this way because people say abortion is wrong. get a grip people



not every one is capable of looking after themselves let alone a baby that depends on them but its still right to bring a baby into this mess we call a world / a life ..so many i feel are just to happy in their comfort zones that if they step out the box they will not be included in topics.. they will become disowned by the ones they know .. i think that sucks really ... how can anyone with children on here be so judgmental .



could carry on but the point i make is it is not your choice or mine for any women to have a abortion/ or murder as some would put it ..it is the women herself who has to make the harsh decision and live with it .. why can't we just leave them be

Kimberlee - posted on 11/07/2012

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Andrea Collins ----- Most abortion statistically are done on adult women who already have one child.

• Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11%, and teens younger than age 15 obtain 0.4%.[6]

• Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.[6]

• About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children. [6]

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induce...

Andrea - posted on 11/06/2012

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Do I agree with abortion? absolutley not I think in most situations these days its because girls are way too young and are scared and this is the easiest way out. but I believe it all goes back to the PARENTS. WHERE were these parents of these young ladies? why didnt they explain how very serious being sexually active is. I am 22 years old with a 10month old and feel so young I cant imagine being 16!!!! it makes me sick! I know plenty of girls who instead of freaking out they were pregnant just shrugg their shoulders and say "ill just get an abortion" it is awful. especially seeing my little man today makes me want to cry thinking anyone could just through away a life like that. Again certain situations I will never agree with.. but again if God forbid any young women or any women for that matter was raped and got pregnant I wouldnt judge for a second. I just know all I can do is teach my son one day, along with my other children especially if I have a daughter that it is not a joke and you should only be sexually active with someone you know deep down is the one for you. Im not talking about young love in highschool I mean more than that of course. Its hard these days though, SOO MANNYY kids are having sex and its just terrible. The parents these days just dont care and teach their kids no value and no pride to have for themselves. its very very sad!

Lauren - posted on 11/06/2012

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my parents forced me to have an abortion when i was 16, said they would disown me and being a daddies girl i didnt wanna loose... it was the worst thing i ever did.. i never got any help afterwards and i couldnt forgive myself for doing what i felt so strongly against...

i still to this day dont agree with them UNLESS medically necessary to a certain extent...

I know have 2 children of my own and i know if my daughter came to me 16 and pregnant i would stand by HER decision but i would be open and honest with her about my myself... ill be there for my kids the way my parents werent for me, even now 8 years on they wont talk about it, it was a dirty lil secret swept under the rug to them whereas i pay everyday for what i did...

Lynn - posted on 11/02/2012

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In a perfect world where men and women take responsibility regarding birth control there would never be a need for abortion. But we dont and too many women in third world or rigorous catholic countries produce too many children to the detriment of their own health and well-being of the children they may already have. I am un-easy about abortion, personally, but I have no right to take away a womans choice in exceptionally hard circumstances. More education, more available birth control. And, the male dominated catholic church should but out regarding contraception.

Just my opinion,



Lynn

Cecillia - posted on 11/01/2012

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Actually DH and I are on a waiting list waiting to adopt our first (we have one biological child) and we're actually trying to adopt between ages 3-12 :)

Ariana - posted on 11/01/2012

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Aborting a fetus under three months is not murder.



If you're so for not having abortions than how many children are you planning to adopt? If everyone against abortion adopted a couple kids than maybe I'd be more willing to take your side. But in the majority of cases the same people complaining about how women shouldn't have abortions are the same ones who are first to complain when someone's got 3 kids and is on the welfare system, or complaining about young mothers. You'll take care of the mother for the 9 months but then who's there to help support the baby?



I am pro choice, if someone wishes to have an abortion than they should, if they don't want one than they shouldn't get one.

Michelle1544 - posted on 11/01/2012

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Reducing a multiples pregnancy is often necessary to keep from losing everyone and these tests that may have false positives are usually (when they are positive) followed by tests that are accurate.



Abortion is a choice every women has a inherit right to make for herself .

Cecillia - posted on 10/31/2012

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I think I'm a little confused on how you're explaining this. The first comment you made was this:



"Julie, How can you be sure that God didn't want the mother to have an abortion in order for her to fulfill another purpose."



and then you just said this:



"You really don't think YOUR God would use that abortion to help shape her life in a positive way?"



Yes, God could USE an abortion to help shape her life, but to go as far as saying He WANTED her to get an abortion I don't believe is right. I'm not going to keep commenting on this only because it's extremely hard to get either of our points across on a computer. I respect your opinion/thoughts and I'd like to just leave it at that :)

Christian - posted on 10/31/2012

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So, in the example that i shared above about my friend, you don't think that YOUR God would allow her to get pregnant as a teenager, abort the pregnancy, work harder than anybody else in her family has ever worked because (in her own words) she didn't want "to end her pregnancy to just lead an ordinary life", then end up adopting a child who would have probably been abandoned. You really don't think YOUR God would use that abortion to help shape her life in a positive way?



Is this the same God that had all of Job's kids killed to prove a point, that allowed his own son to be murdered on a cross for our sins, the God that ordered his people to go into particular towns and kill every man, woman and child. These are just popular bible stories, they don't even touch the surface of the things that God allowed that most Christian's either haven't read or refuse to discuss.



I know from the way I'm writing, it seems like I'm being aggressive. I don't mean for it sound that way. I don't think you can gather my tone from writing, BUT I really think most Christians go by what other people tell them that His word teaches us, but don't actually go to the word.



If the God you are talking about is based on the one in the bible, then I don't think an abortion goes against what the word teaches us, it goes against what the teachers of the word teach us.



My thing about this and other issues that people defend with faith based arguments is that you can't have it both ways - either you believe that God is in control or you don't. If he's in control, then he's in control of all of it. I don't like that we (as Christians) pick and choose where to apply the teachings. I can also accept that me not liking it won't really change it and that we (as humans) will always add our judgement to things. I just try to not judge people as much as I can. I rely a lot on teachings of Jesus in my day to day life and I try my very best to apply them across the board in an unbiased manner - so I find myself defending a lot of people that my fellow Christians criticize.

Cecillia - posted on 10/31/2012

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I'm not disagreeing with you with regards to God's will and I could never in a million years begin to even try to understand His plans for us. That said, I do believe EVERY baby is a blessing from Him and I can never imagine MY God ever planning, allowing, and creating a pregnancy and then "wanting" it to be aborted. I honestly believe it goes against everything His Word teaches us.

Christian - posted on 10/30/2012

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Again, we do not know God's will. I am a Christian. I've read the bible cover to cover and I continue to read and study. It's clear that God does things to people in order to test them, help them and/or make them stronger. He literally rewarded people for murder and told others to murder in the bible. Therefore, we, as Christians should not profess to put OUR will over HIS. In essence, when you tell someone that their actions are not God's will, I personally think its disrespectful to God because you are saying that person has more power than God. Do you really think that we can do anything that God doesn't allow? I believe that if God didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't. Good or bad - He is in control - whether you or my other fellow Christians believe it or not.

Cecillia - posted on 10/30/2012

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Chrissyomari - Christians consider abortion murder and seeing as how murder is a sin, God would never "want" a woman to get an abortion to fulfill another purpose.

Christian - posted on 10/30/2012

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Julie, How can you be sure that God didn't want the mother to have an abortion in order for her to fulfill another purpose. I know someone who had an abortion when she was 17, made a ton of money by working her butt off, then got married at 30, had 2 kids and ended up adopting another child from a teen mom. She told me that she did that because she's always felt guilty about having the abortion when she was a teenager. Also, truth be told, she would have never had the money to take care of three kids, all in private schools and bathed in love, had she decided to be a single teen mom.



I've said this in a previous posts, but I really don't think anyone who is not God or a prophet to profess to know what God's will is. I hate to be judgemental, but I think it's pretty arrogant.

Kimberlee - posted on 10/30/2012

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Julie , abortion ends a pregnancy and stops a fetus from growing into a newborn. I would much rather a women had an early first trimester abortion then to have her throw a newborn into a river. It frightens me that some don't see (or refuse to acknowledge) the difference.

Julie - posted on 10/30/2012

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Abortion makes a woman the mother of a dead baby - as one out of two humans who enter the clinic never come out alive.



When the desperate mother threw her children into the river a few years back ebcause ife was hard and then dove in herself - what's the difference?



We as a Nation have forgot that there is a God who still does miracles...

Kimberlee - posted on 10/30/2012

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An acorn is not a tree and a fetus is not a newborn baby.

Not everyone believes in the OP's "God" and we don't make laws for everyone based on "some" peoples religious beliefs ( so thankful for that!)

Christian - posted on 08/30/2012

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@Tami: I don't think it's wise to profess to know why God allows anyone to get pregnant or that he is against abortion. The bible is full of instances where God told his people to kill children. We don't know His will. You really can't say you do. I know I don't. I think its a slippery slope to say that its against God's will to have an abortion because then you are saying that something is happening outside of His will.



Of course, you are entitled to your beliefs, but nothing in my life (and I don't think anyone elses) happens outside of God's will. I think we make choices and we have to deal with and or learn from the consequences and that it will all come together for good. I believe that alot of the trials that come from life are God's building blocks for us and our character.

Tami - posted on 08/29/2012

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I'm 20 pregnant with baby number two, engaged to my daughter and baby on the ways father. I considered abortion, trying to justify it as If I kill my child I know for a fact that i will see him in heaven, where if i keep or put the child up for adoption the chances aren't 100%. needless to say I'm keeping my baby.



needles to say there are people who can't handle a child, personally my opinion though i could never do it is adoption is best, giving the baby a chance to life. God has a plan abortion is not in it otherwise the pregnancy never would have occurred



The argument of a baby not being alive, is ridiculous....a tree is alive though it can not speak, it can not express feeling. We have tree huggers who chain themselves to trees. we consider a plant a living thing but not a growing child, no matter how small or how many cells it has?



as for the it's my body argument, i'm sorry it is your body but your body is being used as a temporary home for an innocent life.a child is not property , you can do what you like with your property but you do what you like with an already born child you go to jail. why is there a difference? because the baby hasn't breathed oxygen yet?? ridiculous... we have laws to protect animals, plants, even fish! yet we dont have laws to protect the unborn.



abortion should stay legal in emergency cases, but harder to maintain. with all of our tax dollars that go to abortion we can give each child a good home.

Christian - posted on 08/27/2012

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I'm a single mom and I very unexpectantly got pregnant "later in my life". The father was ANGRY and tried to pressure me into having an abortion, but I weighed my options and decided to have my baby. I'm really really glad that I did now because I was really scared and I had to fight the doubt that I was making the wrong decision (mostly because the biological father was screaming at me that I was making the wrong decision daily! lol!). Sometimes when my little one laughs, I get a pang of sadness because I know how close I came to aborting him. That would have been a HUGE mistake for me.



Anyway, my life isn't perfect and its challenging raising an active little boy all alone, BUT in the difficult moments, I have on more than one occaision thought about the fact that I CHOSE to have my child, even though his conception was accidental. No one forced me into this situation. I think having that choice is important. I am pretty sure that most people even the ones with bad childhoods would choose to be alive, that's the main reason that I chose to have my baby, even without support and knowing that I would have the "single mom" stigma, BUT i still think, especially for single mothers, it is very important that you have the choice of whether to have the child or not. I never have to feel like my child stopped my "single fun" or that he is a burden because I had a choice and I made my choice.



I am a Christian, but I personally believe that God controls all things and he lets it all happen for a reason and that people come to understanding in thier own time, so I think that since HE gives us free will, that we should not take that free will away from other women.



On a side note: I do think it should be done in the first trimester, if its going to be done. In California, second trimester abortions are illegal except where the birth will hurt the mom and unfortuneately in those instances, the baby is usually stillborn. :(

Sue - posted on 08/20/2012

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I think it is up to the individual who is going threw it.noone elses. Who are we to judge!!

Sandy - posted on 08/15/2012

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The following is a correction of a typo in the above post that I wrote.

" they must know that the pain the unborn feel is far greater than the pain we, (NOT THEY) would feel if we, (NOT THEY) were destroyed or dismembered in the same way."

Sandy - posted on 08/15/2012

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This post is for the benefit of anyone who is not sure if abortion is right or wrong. Until someone has gathered a sufficient number of the facts and has reviewed as much information about abortion as they can, they do not have a complete and full understanding of what abortion is and what an unborn child experiences while he or she is being killed while inside the womb of their mother. If anyone is not sure if they believe abortion is wrong based on their religious beliefs or moral convictions because they have no moral convictions or they have no religious beliefs then they can not rely on religious beliefs or moral convictions to assist them in making a determination as to whether abortion, (the killing of an unborn child) is wrong. If they are a sociopath who does not have a sense of right or wrong they can not determine whether abortion, (the killing of an unborn child) is right or wrong. Because of this it is even more important for those who do not have religious beliefs or moral convictions to learn all of the facts and review as much information as possible to help them make an informed intelligent decision . To assist someone to comprehend the experience of a human being being aborted, (killed while in it's mothers womb) is the most important thing another human being can do to help someone make a fully informed decision.. There are several sites on the internet that present photographs of human beings being aborted, (killed while in their mother's womb). Unless someone views these photographs they will not have the most vital information they must have with which to make a rational decision as to whether or not abortion is wrong. They must be completely familiar with the process of abortion which includes the various methods doctors employ to extinguish the life, (kill) an unborn child and this includes the pain and agony the unborn child feels while he is being killed through dismemberment, poisioning and or being stabbed at the base of the neck. They must also know about the documented way in which the unborn baby struggles for his or her life. They must also become familiar with how the dismembered pieces of this unborn human beiing are disposed of. They need to know that unborn babies feel pain much earlier in their development than formerly known by scientists. They must also be make aware that the pain the unborn feel while being dismembered or otherwise destroyed is much greater than the pain they would feel if they were dismembered or destroyed in the same way. It has been scientifically proven that the nervous system of an unborn baby throughout most stages of development is developed enough that they can feel pain but not developed enough to already have in place the means with which to respond to the pain in ways that make the pain less severe The fully developed body of a human being has a built in coping mechanism with which to lessen pain to some degree through chemical signals that produce natural opiates. This is why the pain that a baby feels while being aborted, (killed while in his or her mother's womb) is much more painful that it would be for a fully developed human being living outside of it's mother's womb such as you and me. Until all of the information with which to make an intelligent informed and rational decision is seen, read and thought about with a fully functioning brain then a person who is unsure if abortion is wrong is not fully equiped to make a decision. Only when a person has been throughly educated about abortion can make a sound judgement as to whether an abortion is right or wrong. The only exception to this would be someone who has witnessed an abortion. Anyone who is capable of seeing can view photographs and anyone who is literate can read printed literature from reliable scientific sources put in easy to understand words and that person has a responsibility to both himself and to his fellow human beings to learn about those facts before he or she is capable of making a decision as to whether abortion, ( the killing of an unborn baby within his or her mother's womb) is right. For it is only then that they can come close to comprehending the reality of abortion and the dispicable and absolute horror that it is. If they do not have religious beliefs to assist them in making a determination because they do not hold religious beliefs or they do not believe in God,or they have no moral convictions, they will still have an innate sense of right and wrong, (unless they are a sociopath who lacks the capacity to know right from wrong) and can rely on that to decide whether "abortion' is wrong.

Lauren - posted on 08/14/2012

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After posting my comment yesterday, I came across an article about late-term abortions--a whole other realm of the abortion discussion. The woman discussed in this article was 20 weeks along, had felt her twin girls move and decided to have an abortion without thinking twice simply because she already had daughters and didn't want anymore: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/twenty-...

Regardless of your stance on abortion and regardless of when you think life begins during that first trimester of pregnancy, I sincerely hope everyone considers what our society is allowing these women to do--and how that reflects on our value of life overall. How is it okay to kill a child who is clearly living, moving, thriving? I encourage everyone at the very least to research late-term/partial birth abortions. Women who have abortions at this point are induced into labor, delivery their babies, and the babies are either dismembered in the uterus (still legal during any point in pregnancy) or out of the uterus (made illegal in 2007). I knew what partial-birth abortion was before reading this article, but after reading, I am disgusted by the doctors who can look down at a living child--one that can survive out of the womb, open its eyes and make noise--and end its life deliberately. And I frankly don't understand how a woman--wanting the child or not--can feel it move and proceed with an abortion.

For anyone who has had an abortion, I want to say that I don't judge you. The girl who wrote this article had multiple. I am sorry you were in a position where you felt that was your only or best option, and I hope now you might think differently. But in sharing this article, I hope all of us will consider what these late-term abortions are--a murder of a living human being. Consider a baby being born premature, placed in an incubator to gain strength, then taken away and killed; to me, this is the same thing. I hope we could all agree that this isn't right and should be stopped. Food for a lot of thought...and information to share with those who may be curious.

Lauren - posted on 08/13/2012

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Kristen, I am SOOOO happy you posted this. And while I think it's great there are opinions in all directions, I am proud that you shared your viewpoint. Abortions have NOT gone down; in fact, with the invention of more birth control methods, recorded unwanted pregnancies have increased dramatically, STDs have drastically increased, and abortions are at an all-time high.

In a class my fiance and I recently attended, a woman said something that struck home for me, "A baby is not the enemy; your fertility is not the enemy." In our society, we view fertility and children (not to mention sexuality and real love) as so disposable and don't cherish them for their value. There are scientifically-proven ways to plan when you do and don't get pregnant without packing your body full of extra hormones...and there are so many families wanting to parent who can't.

It breaks my heart daily thinking about how many women overlook the fact that a baby is NOT their body and is a life. For their own health, I wish more women would realize what an abortion and birth control does to their body, their emotions, and their relationships.

Thanks again for posting this; it's important to listen to ALL points of view and debate respectfully, which I feel most people have done here. But we do need to be respectfully vocal about the facts about abortion!

Marti - posted on 08/12/2012

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I think ultimatley, it is the womans choice to decide for their self what they want to do. I have not had one, I had my baby, I personally could not do it tho, but I think many people accidentally get pregnant and feel they do not have any other options because they are not in a position to provide for it or worse, they just don't want it. I also hate to see a young mom that has 5 kids on welfare and cant give any of them a quality life.

Alyssa - posted on 08/11/2012

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When I first got pregnant at 17 (I'm 18 now and 16 weeks) my boyfriend, who I live with, found out an instantly tried to give me money for an abortion. I refused, and he was mad. He's come around a bit since then...it never once crossed my mind though...that's my flesh and blood...yesterday was the first day I actually believed it was real. I havent gained any weight, and have been losing it....but yesterday I got to hear the heartbeat...I never once in my life wanted a kid...but hearing that little heart....I just had to smile...I put the recording on my phone and have it go on repeat...I cannot comprehend that that's MY baby...but it is! In the recording you can even hear it kick the monitor thingy...was the most amaizng thing I've ever heard...so no. I don't agree with abortion. And that's final. nothing else to it. That is a BABY...who has a heart like you and me. And just like I'm afraid to die, I think it would be too..

Amber - posted on 08/05/2012

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I am completely against abortion. I have known so many females that had abortions as a form of birth control. Its rediculous! I think that whole "nobody can tell me what I can do with my body" thing is kinda getting old and .. yeah.. i'll leave it at that. Then on the news the other day, I see that a state (Im pretty sure New York) is only allowing mothers who are in having babies to only have so much formula. They are trying to force more women to breast feed because it is healthier for the baby. I don't disagree that it is better for the baby. However, the people trying to force this on women in hospitals are the same people who are arguing that nobody can tell a woman what she has to do with her body. So, in other words, You can't tell a woman that she can't have an abortion, but you can make her breast feed her kid?! How bass ackwards is that?
Ok, I'm done with my rant! haha

Amber

Laquisha - posted on 06/19/2012

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persinoly, abolition waz reall gud. Y u got to hate girl ther was like 1 billion slaves now dey free cant u see dat?

Merril - posted on 04/27/2012

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Dear Shenaid,
I agree with you. I am Pro Choice but not in the case of women who use abortion as a means
of birth control. I definitely agree that women who have been raped, incest, or the life of the mother is in danger. If women are using protection, insist the men use protection and then an accident happens, I wold rather they have an abortion of an unwanted child. There is too much child abuse, and neglect, etc.I would worry that a women who is addicted to drugs, and gets pregnant, for that woman to have the baby to give it up for adoption, would have a baby that is addicted to crack or meth and then the baby is a burden to taxpayers as well as the healthcare system. I had my kids and took care of myself with all my prenatal care and was responsible and really wanted my kids.
Why should I as a taxpayer have to provide free anything to someone who was irresponsible in creating a life through stupid choices they made? I have no problem if a woman wants an abortion then she should pay for it out of her pocket.

Pam - posted on 04/26/2012

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Elizabeth, I am not sure where you got your information from, but a D&C is not performed on someone that has been raped (I am a nurse) a rape kit is done, to collect DNA evidence, but a D&C is not done, the morning after pill can be given if the person wants it, I am pro-life, I believe that there is almost always a better option, better for both mom and baby.

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So your saying that a woman who is raped, should not be allowed to have a abortion?, A woman who has health issues, and carrying the pregnancy to term could possibly be life threatening should not be allowed to have a abortion?Tell me if a woman who was on birth control, and for reasons unknown the birth control failed. She has absolutely no means to support her baby other than depending on the government through welfare and WIC and plundering tax payers, because she can't take care of it. She didn't wan't the baby in the first place, but now as a result of "pro-life" and abortion now being illegal (theoretically) she has to raise a baby she might one day resent mistreat and possibly hate?(also known asinvoluntary servitude)Abortion is never a good thing, but i'd rather not have the government regulate MY reproductive freedom nor have unwarranted government intrusion. It is every woman's right to make a decision about how many children she wants and when without a law over their head. Its funny, the same groups that oppose said abortion, are also opposed effective sex education and access to health care for poor women and children (obamacare). Pro-life enthusiasts want all these babies to be born but when they are here they don't want to spend tax payer money on educating or feeding or providing essential services for the child or its family. Or oh.. yes i forgot just give it up for adoption... because the adoption system in america is not flawed at all... (sarcasm).

Kaylihia - posted on 04/16/2012

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I don't really know what I am or what I think. I am completely against later abortions though. I was born to a really bad situation myself. I had hyper extended knees dislocated hips and born to a single 19 year old mom. My dad was mentally disabled slightly and murdered 5 months before I was born. He lived in a shanty before he died didn't like to work and was an alcoholic. They weren't together and my mom was getting birth control when she found out she was pregnant with me. She had no good job lived with her parents on food stamps and every government assistance they could find. Her mom's first statements were are you going to marry him and are you getting on assistance? That's all her mother knew. As you can see my situation as a fetus wasn't ideal. But I am happy she kept me. I am happy she didn't rid me like so many other women would have. My mom was always pro-life... I know if she weren't likely I wouldn't be here. I thank GOD for that. I had never done anything to cause myself to be born to her. I didn't chose. I don't think a child should be punished for it...



I identify closer to the fetus. However when I think of my own situation with my last pregnancy. I was 14 and raped in a house too full with too little money. The father called me a whore and told me to abort. My family tried but they had their hands full plus my dad(the man who raised me and is my mother's husband) had lost his job we were getting evicted. I know that if I were earlier I probably would not have tried to ctt. I know that's the honest truth that when I saw the positive test that's what I automatically thought. It wasn't until I saw her that I knew I was not getting rid of her. She was already 9 weeks in gestation. I was 11 weeks pregnant. So by then I guess that's why I was too far along. I know I could never go through with it knowing what I now know. They really do pretty horrendous things to them. I had the second trimester abortion procedure after I lost the pregnancy at 17 weeks and 6 days because I was too scared to give birth to something no longer there and it haunts me because now I know what they do and it hurts to think that's what's done. And she was not even a baby that would be born into this world. It just hurts that they mutilated her body and didn't tell me that's what they'd do. It's disgusting that this is done to living children. I think there needs to at least be an end to 2nd trimester abortions. So many states have a part of it legal it's barbaric and I feel sorry for any child that has to be raised by a woman who willingly chooses this for herself and is not in a life threatening situation. Also abortions further than 7 weeks are pretty horrendous itself they pull the baby's body apart. I wouldn't even get an abortion even if I miscarried again unless it was certain medications or procedures. I think medical abortions are ok I guess and maybe mvas I don't know much about them... I think in the case of rape it may be wrong but I'm not going to say they shouldn't be allowed to at as late as 9-10 weeks. I think only in the case of rape incest and life threatening situations before 10 weeks. Mainly because I don't think a woman should be forced to die for her child or have a pregnancy forced on her. She isn't responsible for the pregnancy in the case of rape. Life threatening situations can be no real time frame if it's serious enough. Personally I'd only get an abortion if I were faced with a lifethreatening situation... None of the procedures sit well with me... That's how I feel... I've been there as the mother twice and as the fetus once. I don't think abortion should be allowed as much as it is.

Julisa - posted on 04/15/2012

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WOW! These discussions always get me- you know responding to President's comment,."...if daughter came home pregnant ....not have a baby as punishment..."it's called a consequence of actions taken -- President. It 's what teaches you to be responsible --you smoke for years you get throat cancer - can't get rid if it -- you irresponsible sex and get pregnant don't get rid of it! Enough said

Alison - posted on 04/10/2012

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i feel abortion is wrong and selfish,thats my opinion,its a womens choice whether she wants to kill her child,yes thats the way i look at it,but i would never do it myself unless i was raped i prob would cuz i know what its like to lose a child and i feel its selfish to have an abortion when it wasnt that babies fault or choice to be in other words made,if u dont want to have a child then use birth control,condoms or keep ur legs closed,if u do get pregnant and dont want the child how about give it up for adoption to a couple that cant have children

TINA - posted on 04/06/2012

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I am a little late on this conversation I am with Tara. I find it funny that you say that you are open to others opinions yet you pick and choose what words she uses. Tara clearly says "feeds" off another. I don't agree with parasite and I don't think that abortion is a choice for me but I believe in pro choice. I think that no matter what you think or feel a pregnant woman who is forced to keep her child because abortion is unavailable may then become a bitter mother. I have met these women. I worked with these women. Women who are bitter and hardened because the child they felt obligated to keep and didn't abort or give up for adoption blame these poor defenseless children. Oh they provide for them and do what they are obligated to do but the are emotional bereft of all the love they should receive.

Adoption sounds like a great choice but look at studies and see how many children are in orphanages, foster care, and left out there with no one. I am a woman who has to go through hell to have a child so I know what it means to want a child of your own but I am still trying to adopt a second child. Everyone talks about adoption but who is adopting all these children. People seem to only want perfect babies. What about all those children already out there that were once perfect and didn't get adopted or worse those that weren't perfect and no one wanted them. What about them?

As far as men having say I get that as well. Maybe that man wants this child but he is not the one that carries this child, he is not the one who is going through those changes, and until we can transfer the child to the man to carry and give birth to then he really shouldn't have a right to tell a woman to do what he wants.

I am a mom who lost a child at 21 weeks and no matter what anyone says my son was a person for me from the day I knew I was pregnant (2 weeks post conception). I am mot saying that people should have abortion, matter of fact i am an advocate for abstinence, morning after, condoms, anything but I am realistic so women should never be mothers. Those who know that should not have children.

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