Something to think about.....

Gina - posted on 03/28/2009

It is scary to think about that. It actually makes sense. I think the democrats have been scheming and as soon as they took  control of the house they slowly crashed our economy, but blamed it on Bush. They know that if they completely crash our financial system we would do things we wouldn't normally do because the American people haven't had to live without. I think the global warming thing is another way they can control our lives even more, they're pretty good at scare tactics, and when people are scared they don't think.

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/28/2009

Confirming what I think many of us have been hinting about in this thread! Chilling!!

Brenda - posted on 03/28/2009

I agree!  That is why I am homeschooling my kids beginning in August!

Here is a bit more info I ran across that may raise your eye brows....

Here is a very interesting and relevant to the topic here article from World Net Daily:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...

Posted: February 10, 2009

1:00 am Eastern

© 2009 

The cover of Newsweek proclaims: "We Are All Socialists Now." In the Feb. 16, 2009, issue, Newsweek editors Jon Meacham and Evan Thomas write: "Whether we want to admit it or not the America of 2009 is moving toward a modern European state." They blame President George W. Bush for laying the groundwork with his $700 billion bailout – which opened the door to Obama's trillions more.

Bloomberg reported yesterday, "The stimulus package the U.S. Congress is completing would raise the government's commitment to solving the financial crisis to $9.7 trillion … enough to send a $1,430 check to every man, woman and child alive in the world. It's 13 times what the U.S. has spent so far on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to Congressional Budget Office data, and is almost enough to pay off every home mortgage loan in the U.S., calculated at $10.5 trillion by the Federal Reserve."

Last week I wrote about the Socialist spending bill filled with partisan political paybacks not so cleverly disguised as "stimulus." And now those in the Senate who represent you are negotiating not the concept of spending our way out of debt, but rather, how much and who – besides ACORN, leading the nation in voter fraud – will be the beneficiary of billions of your hard-earned tax dollars.

I called this bill Socialist. Newsweek says we're now Socialists. Turns out we were both wrong. Sam Webb, the leader of the Communist Party USA is doing Communist cartwheels because he believes that it's his Communist agenda that's being embraced. Speaking in Ohio for People's Weekly World Communist newspaper, Webb said: "We now have not simply a friend, but a people's advocate in the White House." 

The leader of the Communist Party USA may not be the only one doing Communist cartwheels. Brace yourself for what I'm about to say next. Last fall, prior to the presidential election, a friend of mine, Dr. Wiley Drake, former second vice president for the Southern Baptist Convention, sent me an e-mail on which I didn't report. It just seemed too extreme. It was from a software developer he met named Tom Fife who told of how he first heard of the name "Barack."

I can't prove whether it's true or not, but in light of all that is happening, it just doesn't seem that far-fetched anymore. All I know is that Tom Fife is a real guy – not some e-mail scam. I've talked to him. He was a government contractor with an active security clearance who took notes on his trips for debriefings with the Defense Intelligence Agency within the Department of Defense. This is what he wrote down after it happened in 1992, before anyone ever heard the name "Barack":

The first time I heard of Barack

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist, while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice president and you didn't do it."

The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice president, but the president and vice president as a ticket.

"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."

The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she, black or not.

"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born, and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of presidents. He is what you call 'Ivy League.' You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your president."

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black, so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: They would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the Legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African,'" she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism, and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30-plus years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

There have been attempts to discredit Fife with made up details, but the original version of Fife's story is posted online. Fife can be reached at: thefife@hotmail.com.

Whether you believe this story or not, believe what the Communist Party USA has to say. Spending our way to the largest government in American history won't stimulate anything … other than the agenda of the Communist Party: taking over the private sector and capping people's salaries. And that's just for starters

. Call your senators at 202-224-3121 right now to stop this massive government takeover masquerading as a "stimulus" spending bill. Forget the hype: The world isn't going to end if this bill isn't passed, but democracy may end if it does.

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/28/2009

Yes! My children have never stepped foot in school and I can not believe how different they are from their schooled soccer friends! They are not smarter, by any means. I could list the academic struggles we have, but that is not why I homechool. I love how they are unencumbered by the pop culture, they have no idea what the "latest" toy craze is, and my 8 yo boy is not afraid to be silly and express himself with true innocence.

Now I am thanking God I did this!

Cheri - posted on 03/28/2009

The public school system is the perfect breeding ground for this insidious indoctrination. That's why he's trying to force mandatory preschool - start young! Number one reason why we are homeschooling our high schooler! WE are in control of what he learns, thank goodness!!

Sonia - posted on 03/28/2009

Wow Elizabeth, I didnt know that. I'm a lil' bummed b/c this is really the only place I've been able to voice my opinions and not be totally assaulted verbally. Most of my family and friends are Obama followers, they don't want to hear any of it. They keep saying Obama is good for this country and we've needed someone ike him for a long time. I wonder what they will say when he starts stepping on their toes and they start to realize its their personal rights that are being taken also.

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/28/2009

Just a couple years ago, most of us would have never vocalized or even believed what we are talking about here! It sounds outlandish, but what we are seeing occur here and globally can not be denied, and the last 6 months has seen the average American turning their thoughts this way. Gun sales have skyrocketed...stores can not hold on to their shipments week to week!

Sonia - posted on 03/28/2009

More thoughts I've had and maybe I'm letting my imagination run too much here, but it seems to me that Obama has one agenda, that while he has all our heads spinning with all these changes but could it be he is trying to bring our economy down, take our weapons, brainwash half of us into being his lil' foot soldiers and weaken us as a country. What would happen if other countries realized our security has been compromised?? If we as a nation are no longer standing behind our "leader"?? A full on war will break out. Could we be seeing the makings of WWIII??? But before that even happens we could very possibly have another Revolutionary War right here.

Sonia - posted on 03/28/2009

I was just thinking abot that last night...Why didnt the Jews accept Jesus as Messiah?? Because they had expected a ruler to take over completely and Jesus didnt he came humbly....now on the other side we have Obama...who so far is widely accepted by all and we have to ask and take a good hard look at why...

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/28/2009

I really didn't think much about Obama until just before the election when I saw his following crying and fawning over him before he was even elected! Cult of Personality...It is the easiest means to attain Totalitarian control. Stalin and Hitler were out in the public eye as much as they could be, and the masses Loved them. You really have to worry when a politician can evoke that kind of hysteria and emotion out of millions of people from all walks of life. Even Jesus Christ didn't have that kind of a following and he performed miracles!

Christa - posted on 03/28/2009

I've thought this since during the election. I don't like how nobody really knows where he was born and somehow that's been swept under the rug. I also don't like how there's no way he ever could get a top secret security clearence and yet "we" were dumb enough to give him complete access. It really worried me when countries all over the globe were celebrating as if Jesus himself had just come back when Obama was elected. Now he's trying to do as much as he possibly can before anyone catches on. And yet instead of being in Washington working like every other president he's making his rounds on TV, like a celebrity. Although I think that might actually backfire on him since he's pissed people off with his comments on Leno, 60 Minutes and now his town hall thing on Thursday. I hope people open their eyes real soon. Hitler was also elected.

Sherry - posted on 03/27/2009

Exactly what I'm thinkin..................he is purposely destroying the economy right now. Everytime he talks the market drops.

Karen - posted on 03/27/2009

Quoting Sonia:

I totally agree. I have had a few conspiracy theories of my own and it feels silly even sharing them with people. Especially when you get laughed at and told that could never happen here in America. For me it started with education. Public education started in the first place because our FF wanted a well-read, well-educated nation and they wanted everyone to go to university. Now our education system is so dumbed down alot of these kids can't read or write, How the heck can we expect them to go on to university?? I better stop before I get into a rant and start offending people...but I think the education in this country is a huge factor in how Obama got voted in in the first place...or the lack there of I should say.

America is stupid, and public schools no longer work. That is why I'm homeschooling my toddlers/preschoolers. It's so scary, but all these theories can be very real and true.

Jan - posted on 03/27/2009

I totally think there's some sort of collusion. That someone somewhere KNEW that getting a nation this big into a financial pit would mean they could sweep in and change the agenda. People are frozen by financial fear so they are willing to go along. Its the oldest trick in the book, you make people dependent on you and then they will follow you. We needed them to get us out of something THEY got us into. Well I partly believe in personal responsibility as well but whatever. I tell you I would love to have the resources to dig dig dig my way through the books of Fannie and Freddie and some of the socialist party affiliations on Chicago that Obama had. There's more to it than this. They are stripping us of our constitutional rights in the name of change under the lie of "saving" our economy! Its criminal and nauseating!

Brenda - posted on 03/27/2009

That is one of the reasons I am homeschooling my boys next year.  And partly too because I dont want some kool-aid drinkin' teacher indoctrinating my kids!

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/27/2009

Well, there is a reason why University Admissions Offices consider Homeschooled children a huge asset. Homeschooled kids are not geniuses, and many of their mothers are not college graduates, but their school environment is a nurturing one, free from the burden of political and societal agendas.

Julie - posted on 03/27/2009

I second that Sonia!!!!

Sonia - posted on 03/27/2009

I totally agree. I have had a few conspiracy theories of my own and it feels silly even sharing them with people. Especially when you get laughed at and told that could never happen here in America. For me it started with education. Public education started in the first place because our FF wanted a well-read, well-educated nation and they wanted everyone to go to university. Now our education system is so dumbed down alot of these kids can't read or write, How the heck can we expect them to go on to university?? I better stop before I get into a rant and start offending people...but I think the education in this country is a huge factor in how Obama got voted in in the first place...or the lack there of I should say.

Julie - posted on 03/27/2009

I thought about that from day one with Obama. The government has taken over control of the banks and now there wanting to take over major corporations like AIG. I thought his ideas were for a smaller government?? Its looking like we are turning into a totalitarian nation after all!

Elizabeth (the Instigator) - posted on 03/27/2009

That is funny! Growing up we had a friend of the family who we called "crazy John." Really nice guy who helped me get through Physics, but we called him crazy because of his conspiracy theories! We laughed when in the 1990's he predicted almost everything we have now watched happen these last 18 months!! From the gas prices, to the stock market, even bailouts!! It's like waking up inside a movie! What if all that crazy talk about Powerful Bankers gaining control of our government has some credibility?

Consider this: If you read History, you will find that from the beginning, our presidents have had to fight back the bankers from trying to take over! There were some who were too weak to fight and so were manipulated, and others like Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt fought tooth and nail to keep control out of the hands of these Moguls! Abraham Lincoln warned about them, Eisenhower warned, but for the last 50 years - nothing. No more power struggle.

Just a thought.

Gina - posted on 03/26/2009

That's so true, I just told my husband today, that I think he is trying to break our country. First with the financial system, so we're dependent on other countries, then to socialize healthcare, and I heard he's messing with the census, so who knows he might have the next election fixed. It's just scary to think what we will be after 4 years of him.

Laynette - posted on 03/26/2009

That is why it is scary----You think it too far out there for this to all have been orchestrated for many years and get accomplished but on the other hand the things that are being done and being done so fast make it a real possibility.  I think he is continually on TV to keep people from looking at what is going on behind the scenes and beginning to think the AIG WAS a smokescreen so other things could get passed without anyone knowing.  I really don't want to become one of those kook's or nutty people on the far right but how can you not wonder.

Shelly - posted on 03/26/2009

Yes that is a very scary thought...Find your happy place find your  happy place!!!