Susan G. Komen and link to Planned Parenthood explained

Laura - posted on 04/09/2010 ( 41 moms have responded )

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http://www.examiner.com/x-34473-Houston-... I decided to just start a new thread because it was faster. Read your concern Diane and others and I to was surprised and upset that the money donated was going to Planned Parenthood. This article explains and you can make your own opinion on whether or not PP is really spending all the money from Komen on just what they're suppossed to. Do you think it's still appropriate for Komen to run these programs through PP? Should they have tried to find another health care facility to administer these programs?

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Viveca Von - posted on 02/01/2012

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Where is everyone getting their info about Planned Parenthood. I just donated $25,000 to them this morning after I read that Susan G.Komen pulled their funding. HERE ARE THE REAL NUMBERS: 35% go`s to STD testing and treatments, 35% go`s to Contraception, 16% go`s to Cancer Screening and Prevention, 10% go`s to Other Womens Health Services, 3% go`s to Abortions and 1% go`s to other services.

And, according to federal law, Planned Parenthood cannot actually use government funds on abortion procedures. Stop believing the REPUBLICANS whose sole interest is in taking away everyones right to everything. I was a Republican but have walk away from the party since there ideals make me want to vomit

Truth - posted on 06/11/2010

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Ladies, If you do research on Sanger and do even more reasearch on Eugenics, you will sadly see that the Eugenics movement of the past is alive and well today. What began as an evil attempt to weed out "undesirables", is now being re-termed and re-coined under other names. Planned Parenthood is only one of those institutions. There are many more out there, and their target is not only babies, but people of all ages. Just look at the states that have enacted the Kervorkian laws - Assisted Suicide - that also grew out of Margaret Sanger and the Eugenics movement. And the Hemlock Society has changed it's name, and they call it Compassionate end of life care.

They are changing the rules for the game of life. They have no respect for the sanctity - at any stage. This is the battle that we are waging. If we fight for the precious unborn, we must also fight for every stage of life.

And absolutely - EDUCATION is the key. We must educate ourselves and then spread that education to others - no matter the cost.

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Hey Diane, You are correct about everthing you said. I have read much about the history of PP. It is a very insidious organization that gets tons of money from private foundations (eg. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) and abortion. But PP (and Hilary Clinton) openly ignores the history. In fact, you're not even supposed to bring that up. They hold MS up with esteem. Her position and actions w no different than Adolph Hitler's, in that she felt the poor and "inferior" should be terminated, but she is idealized.

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To Kathy B. That situation is deplorable. PP isn't really interested in giving birth control as much as they are into coercing frightened, vunerable women into having an abortion. That's where the money is. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trafficking baby body parts for cash too. Their goal now is to put a PP into every rural community so that rural women can access the same "rights" as urban/suburban women. See www.feministsforlife.org

Diane - posted on 04/09/2010

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Laura thanks for starting this conversation, people need to know just where their money might be going. Education is the key.



Check out these sponsors of Planned Parenthood. Some may surprise you.



http://www.lifenews.com/nat5618.html





"Planned Parenthood boycott list include Buffalo Wild Wings (restaurants), Estée Lauder, Computer Sciences Corporation, and United Parcel Service.



Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A Planned Parenthood watchdog has released an updated list of the corporations and companies that provide direct funding for the abortion business. Life Decisions International identifies corporations that are boycott targets due to their support for the biggest abortion company in the world.

Companies that continue as subjects of the pro-life boycott include EBay, Wells Fargo (including Wachovia), Nike, Time Warner (HBO, AOL, etc.), Bank of America, Walt Disney, Johnson & Johnson, Lost Arrow (Patagonia, etc.), Chevron, and Nationwide Insurance, and Sonic (restaurants), among others. Charitable groups that are associated with Planned Parenthood either through donations or joint programs.Those groups include AARP, Lions Clubs, the American Cancer Society, Camp Fire, Girls Inc., Girl Scouts, Kiwanis Clubs, the March of Dimes, the Muscular Dystrophy Association, Rotary Clubs, the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, the Salvation Army, the YWCA, and YMCA, among others." Also Whole Foods.





As for the response from Komen, sorry but I do not buy it. They will tweek the information to make it look like they don't support abortion but if ONE DIME goes into their fund then it could go for any area that they service.



This makes me think about the person who says, "I am against abortion personally but I believe it is a personal choice for each women to make". Now if there were two lines, one pro-choice and one pro-life and against abortion, which line would that person be in? Which line saves lives?



It's amazing that some people have the illusion that being personally opposed to abortion while believing others should be free to choose it is some kind of compromise between the pro-abortion and pro-life positions. It's not. Pro-choice people vote the same as pro-abortion people. Both oppose legal protection for the innocent unborn. Both are willing for children to die by abortion and must take responsibility for the killing of those babies even if they do not participate directly. To the baby who dies it makes no difference whether those who refuse to protect her were pro-abortion or merely pro-choice.





So the money that Komen gives Planned Parenthood......can you tell me that it does not go towards someones abortion? Do you want to take the chance?

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Cynthia - posted on 02/21/2012

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personally i think they were bullied into giving the money back to them by the far left. planned parenthood isn't what people think it is. I agreed with komen's decision on not funding them. its not like they would have lost any money, PP is tied to big government so they would have received money anyways

Isobel - posted on 02/07/2012

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I wonder what happens to all of those high-risk, low-income (and by low-income I mean working poor...you know the ones who have jobs and can't get medi-care) babies whose mothers now have little or no access to pre-natal care...again, way to be pro-life.

Krista - posted on 02/01/2012

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Viveca is right. PP wasn't allowed to use federal funds towards abortion services anyway. And NO non-profit organization would be stupid enough to risk their funding by spending it on anything other than what it was earmarked towards. So there was no Komen money going towards abortion anyway. All that Komen's decision has done is satisfy the conservative base, while ensuring that low-income women now have less access to things like pap smears and breast exams.



Way to be "pro-life", huh?

Viveca Von - posted on 02/01/2012

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Where is everyone getting their info about Planned Parenthood. I just donated $25,000 to them this morning after I read that Susan G.Komen pulled their funding. HERE ARE THE REAL NUMBERS: 35% go`s to STD testing and treatments, 35% go`s to Contraception, 16% go`s to Cancer Screening and Prevention, 10% go`s to Other Womens Health Services, 3% go`s to Abortions and 1% go`s to other services.

And, according to federal law, Planned Parenthood cannot actually use government funds on abortion procedures. Stop believing the REPUBLICANS whose sole interest is in taking away everyones right to everything. I was a Republican but have walk away from the party since there ideals make me want to vomit

Viveca Von - posted on 02/01/2012

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How can taking funding away from Planned Parenthood help anyone. Planned Parenthood is`nt just about abortions. I know countless women who received either low cost pre-natal healthcare or free healthcare through them. I am frankly appalled that any woman would stand behind a political movement that wishes to dictate what a woman can or cannot do with their own bodies. Shame on the lot of you. There is a Planned Parenthood clinic near where I live and recently I stop to speak with a protestor carrying a terrible sign with a picture of an aborted fetus on it and asked her "What about all the children across the United States and the world are unwanted" Its great to have something to believe in and fight for but pulling funding from a clinic that helps women across the board with all aspects of healthcare is just wrong

Alison - posted on 10/12/2011

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I get more info on corporations support for Planned Parenthood? I had no idea.

Ellen - posted on 06/27/2010

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I read it and am very skeptical. I don't trust an organization who doesn't need a womans 'real' name to perform an abortion, or who won't report a minor for statutory rape, and will keep such information from parents when a minor is involved, etc.... So much deceptions, so how could u trust them to use this money for breast exams and education??? I def, don't trust planned parenthood.

Stephanie - posted on 06/26/2010

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I wish I knew how PP maintained its non-profit status when smaller organizations are constantly in threat of losing their status for having too much money tied up in emergency accounts for unforseen circunstances. I also do not understand how other non-profits can get away with limited disclosure about where their donated funds are going. I guess this goes back to the transparancy issue currently plaguing our nation. Even with such strict requirements for non-profits, PP is capable of circumventing the system.

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Did you know that, although PP is supposedly "non-profit", they receive federal money (yes, our taxes are subsidizing PP abortion mills under the disguise of "womens health initiatives"), have obscene amounts of excess funds in interest-bearing vehicles, AND donate to political candidates. Non-profits are supposed to be that: no profit, every penny is supposed to go back into the operation of the organization. Additionally, it is supposedly illegal for any non-profit organization receiving federal funds to donate to political parties/candidates. PP has apparently found some loophole to get through both of those regulations because PP is a HUGE donor to the Democrapic (yes, I meant to put that) party and its moderate-to-liberal candidates.

Keep in mind that for every specified donation PP receives allows them to spend an unspecified donation on construction and operation of their abortion mills.

I have read that it is individual affiliates of organizations such as SGK and MOD making donations to PP, but it is true that if you inquire to these national offices, they will tell you that they have no affiliation to PP.

I too have been confused by the supposed MOD/PP affiliation. Seems pretty odd given that, as Stephanie stated, PP does not provide any prenatal care (probably because they don't want their "victims" to know that the generic "fetus" actually looks like, and is, a person) and the MoD is all about prenatal care.

Stephanie - posted on 06/25/2010

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Laws affecting non-profits is pretty complicated but I can assure you that if SGK is specifying their donations be used for early detection programs PP can only use those funds for their specified cause. This is why if you donate to the Red Cross and specify the funds be used for a specific disaster or mission they will return your check to you. If PP were using those funds for any other program, they can and will lose their non-profit status (which would not cause me to lose any sleep at night).

I think part of the problem here is that PP is by and far the largest group in this country offering free or low cost women’s health services to those who need it thereby allowing SGK to set up programs that would be available to more women than if they went through a lesser known group. What I find more disturbing than the SGK/PP affiliation is the fact that March of Dimes is somehow affiliated with them. I cannot imagine what kind of partnership they could create with PP when their mission is to prevent premature births and birth defects. PP does not offer prenatal screenings nor do they offer pregnancy wellness checkups so how is the March of Dimes fulfilling their mission? I would also like to point out that neither of these organizations actively promote their affiliation with PP – that should tell them something.

Amy - posted on 06/11/2010

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I'm saddened to read about the PP strategically placed in rural areas. Those who are judging Kathy for her comment don't really understand. Rural hospitals are defined as being the only hospital in a 30 mile radius and have an ER (among other criteria). It's a "brilliant strategy" for PP to position themselves as the only available women's care provider, especially considering that women's health is often not utilzed at a rate high enough to support an OB/GYN at the rural hospitals.

They are placing themselves in these locations which pretty much forces women in these areas to use their services (non-abortion services), which in turn has a beneficial impact on their image.

Interesting. and sad.

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I have read very many of the same things across many sites and articles. The ultimate recent example is Obama's end of life 'counseling' in his health care agenda. The same people that support Sanger's organization, PP, will express their horror at the holocaust. What hypocrites! Diane, you said it in your last two comments about hiding/denying the truth about Sanger and other eugenicists in general.

Diane - posted on 06/10/2010

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People have no idea who Sanger really was and what she stood for. And ya know, many when they find out, still condone what she stood for.

Truth - posted on 06/10/2010

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I agree!!! How else will we teach people that there are consequences to their sexual exploits if we keep giving them an easy out with abortion? Our society has over the years AND Generations taught many to say, It's OK, someone ELSE will take care of it, absolving ME of all responsibility. That is utter garbage and we all know it.

Oh, and I already boycott UPS when I can because of what they and their UNION are trying to do to my husband's company!!!!!

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I Wiki'd Margaret Sanger. Very interesting.... and psychotic.

And honestly.... why on earth do they call it Planned Parenthood when their whole purpose is an abortion clinic? So misleading to women who do walk in scared about an unplanned pregnancy and are unaware of just what they do in there. :-(

Diane - posted on 05/21/2010

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Well you said it Barbara.......some people want the truth hidden so it does not make them look so bad because they are so wrong.....does that make sense. LOL
Just came in from the sun and I might not be thinking that clearly. :)

Diane - posted on 05/19/2010

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And if you look where they put the clinics they are mainly in poor minority neighborhoods, which mirrors the goals of PP founder Margaret Sanger. They target blacks.
The counseling they do does not share gestational information with women. They are not truthful and avoid at all costs portraying the child in the womb as a baby, a living human being. They are to busy taking the cash that will kill it.

PP is a money making baby killing organization. They do not want women watching sonograms of their babies before an abortion... that's why they fight laws that do this.

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Several Komen chapters in the US gave money to PP for breast health programs. But keep in mind for every dollar earmarked given to PP for programs other than abortion, gives them more unspecified donations/ money to spend on their abortion agenda. I have also read that some chapters of the American Cancer Society, the March of Dimes and United Way have given money to PP.

Jessica - posted on 05/08/2010

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We have Life Choices here. you can get bc and help if you become pregnant. they do counseling and such. it's a great organization.

Diane - posted on 05/08/2010

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It depends if you want to support an abortion mill I guess. PP is the biggest abortion mill in the word. It is a killing center. So if women want to walk into get birth control in a building where this is going on then......I do not know what else to say. There is not a PP in an area in this country where there aren't Pregnancy Crisis Centers and someone who could help them.

Kathy - posted on 05/08/2010

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I guess I am the odd person here. I think if they are in fact monitoring how the funds are spent, then they are doing a good thing. I live in a small, low income, town. Healthcare in our town, and in local surrounding communities is run by the two major hospitals from the two largest towns/cities closest to us. The ONLY way un and under insured women from here have access to birth control, or any type of screenings is by going to PP. So unless they are willing to build, fund, and support clinics in these rural areas, this is the only way they have to reach those who need them the most.
I would much prefer to see a woman go to PP to get her birth control, rather than see her have children she did not want, nor could afford and end up with an abortion or a neglected/abused child. And I would much prefer a woman go to PP for breast screenings than to die from cancer because she had no other way of obtaining these screenings.

Jessica - posted on 05/07/2010

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So... wait, I'm supposed to be boycotting Whole Foods and Buffalo Wild Wings!? (Yes, I know they shouldn't be in the same sentence together...) oh crap... hmm... I already knew about Susan G. I boycotted payless until I had my daughter. (they carry small sizes at cheap prices) Payless used to have a Starr Jones line. She's a HUGE PP supporter! I have a hard time believing the March of Dimes thing. Kinda the Johnson thing too... cuz wouldn't giving money to KILL babies hurt their baby product profit? hmm... they're not thinkin this one through, huh!?
Oh I knew about United Way too. My sister's work (a hospital, go figure) does a UW donation drive every year where they go around to employees and ask for money. Every year she would get on her soapbox and preach. They finally just quit even asking her, b/c they didn't want to hear it! It's crazy!

I don't give ANYTHING to Susan if I can help it! I know soooo many people who do race for the cure and I always "preach" to them. I had a friend that was heading up a team. I told her the day before the race what she was doing, and she turned white as a sheet!

Laura - posted on 04/22/2010

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What about March of Dimes? I have heard that they contribute funds to PP? Any truth in this?

Leota - posted on 04/21/2010

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The only way to insure the money you donate is going to what you want is to do your own research. Also, the comments on curing breast cancer. The best way to stop breastcancer, before it starts, is to breast feed your babies. It is better for the baby and a breast feeding mom has a greatly reduced chance of getting breat cancer. The food we eat, unless you grow your own, is chemically enhanced or genetically engineered to produce more. There is very little research on what genetically enhanced foods do to the human body in the long run. I am taking as few chances as possible. An organinc garden is a bit of work, but the rewards are great. humanely grown meat is available in most metro areas...you just have to "do your own research".

Gianina - posted on 04/20/2010

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Makes me want to cry !!! Gee, I hope that my donation to the ASPCA and other animal donation isn't going to PP. OK, wait a minute...l'm going to check on that. I don't support Peta (pink ladies)

Amy - posted on 04/19/2010

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United Way absolutely is a massive supporter of PP. When I've given to United Way, I specified a specific charity I wanted my money to go to. Then I decided just to give my money directly where I wanted it to go, anyway. Why pay them 20% administration costs... especially in light of the embezzlement scandal about 10 years ago.



Sanger was a founder/believer in Eugenics, the practice of purifying the human race. So was Helen Keller and Adolf Hitler. No lie. They are facts that are ignored in history. But those three people are kindred spirits.



I had no idea about Komen. So sad that I have to be careful where I give my money. March of Dimes, too? Why bother spending money to save babies when you also spend money to kill them? *sigh*

Gianina - posted on 04/18/2010

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What??? No way, Heather...really?? "United Way" is also supporting PP ?? I do know that United Way is for the disabilities and 'help families'. We give to the local 'United Way' knowing that it supports the disability programs. Programs where my son would have benefit from it.

Heather - posted on 04/17/2010

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I quit giving money to United Way for the same reasons I will now no longer support Susan G. Komen. Even if they don't use the Komen money for abortions, the Komen money allows them to us other money for abortions and pro-abortion programs. If they don't have to spend it on breast cancer research, it's available for use elsewhere.

Gianina - posted on 04/16/2010

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God, I hope so Diane. My 3 sisters live in CA while I live in OHIO. They are corrupted by the Far L CA. people. My Mom who lives in CA is a conservative and it's amazing how she can't knock some sense in my sisters head. One sister, 2 yrs older, has decided that she doesn't believe in GOD. But it has not stopped me from sending her the rosaries.

Carol - posted on 04/15/2010

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Does anyone know where we can channel our funds for breast cancer research and not through the Susan K. Foundation? I am spreading the word on this, since we have dun the runs and everything on behalf of my mother-in-law who has been in remission for 2 years from Stage 4 breast cancer?

Diane - posted on 04/10/2010

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This is hard for me to say after going through hell the past two months of thinking I had breast cancer. Had follow up mamogram, sonogram, biopsy....all came back good. But its a scare let me tell ya.
My doctor told me that all the research in the world won't PROBABLY ever cure breast cancer. It might help to prolong life...but not cure totally for most women.
He also told me that until people start taking diet more seriously nothing will work.
Did you know that in Asian countries one in eight hundred women get breast cancer as compared to one in eight women in America. He said its diet, weight, and exercise. Everything we eat is processed in cans, fast foods, chemicals. He even told me that PAM was bad to use. LOL I can't live without PAM.

Have any of you read Suzanne Somers new book called KNOCKOUT? I just bought it the other day. I found out my husband has thyroid cancer and I wanted to see what the doctors she interviewed had to say about cancers.

Gianina....your sister will come around we just have to keep praying for her. You planted a seed.....and maybe she will do some investigating her self. All one needs to do is to goodle Margaret Sanger and the Nazi quotes,pictures come up.
She was one evil woman.

Laura - posted on 04/10/2010

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Diane, thanks for all of your incredible research. I agree that even if PP was being honest (cough) and using the money from Komen just for breast cancer prevention, it's still helping to keep the lights on and I don't approve. Komen has a lot of money, they could find another way to educate. And Sanger, how disgusting! I don't even have words for that line of thought. Can you imagine an abortionist on their judgement day having to try to answer the question "Why did you kill so many of my children?".

Gianina - posted on 04/10/2010

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Thank you ladies.. OH Thanks Laura for starting a new conversation.

Well, I gave my twin ( big time Komen supporter) all of these information. Ofcourse I wasn't surprised to get a 'negative' respond from my twin. She is a big supporter of PP. I then gave her that tibbit information on Margaret Sanger, and she doesn't believe of being Nazi. Blows my mind. Disappointed/Sad that my own twin can't open her eyes. Time for me to move on ...save my energy on others and pray that my twin will 'see the light'.

Diane - posted on 04/09/2010

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Upon further thinking...........:)

I just want to say a few more things about what makes me sick about Komen link to Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood targets minorities. If you do some research and look into their founder Margaret Sanger....you would see that today PP still follows her goals.

In her book, Women and the New Race, Sanger said, "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it".

She believed in controlled reproduction to purify the races. I could go on and on but it isn't the main topic here. Basically Sanger was a socialist and believed the poor should be sexually sterilized, and she endorsed euthanasia; she believed in selective breeding of the human race to produce "perfect" people. She obviously agreed with the Nazis.

Her slogan was "more children from the fit, less from the unfit"......wonder why PP doesn't still use it today.

I do not want to take the chance that my money would afford ONE WOMAN an abortion. If that means breast cancer research takes a back seat then so be it.

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