My 8 yr old son was restrained and threatented with Juvy

Adriane - posted on 12/17/2009 ( 12 moms have responded )

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My son was diagnosed with ADHD last spring. Since then he has moved, changed schools and put on several medications to help him in school. None being very successful. The last medication he was on was called Concerta, he was still getting in trouble and having a hard time following directions and listening, ect. We changed his medication to Strattera a non stimulant medication- This medication takes longer to have any effect. Prior to the change I submitted a letter from the doctor informing them of the change and developed an IEP plan for him.

Yesterday I got a call an hour after school started that I needed to come get my son right away. When I arrived they told me that 5 adults cornered him because he wasn't listening and being disruptive in class. He would not cooperate with them so they restrained him and tried to put him in a room away from the class. They had a struggle with him for about 1 hour before I could get there. When the restraining became unsuccessful they put him in a room and held the doors shut. During which time he went frantic and wanted out of the room, started throwing things and completely destroyed the room. Not only that but they called a police officer and told him that if he didn't calm down they were going to take him to Juvenile detention. I was furious! My 8 year old does not belong in Juvy.

The school counselor told me that she hasn't seen a kid act like this ever. 10 years ago they had a kid that behaved similiar but not like this.

They know that he has a condition and that he is seeing psychologist and docotors and that we are trying everything to help him.

I met his doctor and gots his meds changed to Guamficine - another non stimulate medication used to treat ADHD. It takes a couple weeks for any signs of improvement. I am really worried and scared and want to know if anyone else has gone through something similiar or has any advice or insight.

Please help I am desperate. When she said ten years - I though OMG is he really that bad? He is not an angry kid. He is very sweet and caring and funny and creative and smart. Education wise he is in the top of his class. I have to meet with school and his psychologist but I am kinda at a loss right now.

Thanks,

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Lisa - posted on 12/20/2009

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LOL Marisa...yeh why can't our boys just be boys instead of having to be labeled with some disorder. A child I knew was diagnosed with ADHD and was put on meds and his moods changed so drastically that it seemed most times that I saw him, he was just not there anymore. It's like those meds took the life right out of him. I hate when doctors throw out meds like that. This is why I have not taken my son to the doctor for his lack of attention span and quickness to get bored...he's just being him and I have found a more common since way of helping him get focused when he's not...it's called being a mom. I'm a psychology major and I know there are so many things that can go wrong with children and adults. And I'm definitely not the one that will be doing the pill pushing when I graduate. I never have believed in meds except when there's no other option. I guess cause I never liked taking any medicine as a child myself. As a mom giving advice, I would go with your instincts and remember that doctors don't know it all and are not GOD. Seek a doctors advice, but make the best decision for your particular child...if that calls for taking him off meds....then seek advice on best how to do it as some are habit forming and can cause bad reactions if not done properly. If you find one that helps, do it. If not, do your own research and trial and error. And pray :)

Julie - posted on 12/18/2009

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Be careful with the meds..... The meds could be the wrong ones and making him worse. I go through a similar situation with my 9 year old son. Is has been diagnosed with ADHD but every med we have tried just has made him worse, especially when he throws a tempertantrum. We are still doing test to see if there is something else that no one is picking up on. My only problem is that he does not act out at school. It sucks and you can only take it day by day, but there is no reason for the school to act like that.

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Make sure that he Only has ADHD and not one of the many disorders that make up Autism Spectrum Disorder. My 9yr old has ADHD, but the majority of his issues stem from Sensory Integration/Processing Disorder. In a nutshell, his five senses are not processed and relayed correctly by his brain. Our school is truly awful and refuses to help at all, at times they have been downright cruel to him, so we enrolled him in a private accreditted distance learning school. I can manage his symptoms at home, and his curriculum is far superior.

Marisa - posted on 12/20/2009

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As someone before me has suggested, please be careful with those meds. Was he like that before he was put on medications?

There's a disturbing tendency for doctors to overmedicate. Many many many psychiatric drugs have terrible adverse effects on already vulnerable people. I've noticed with people close to me that their meds have made them worse. ADHD seems (to me) to be overdiagnosed and used as an excuse for drs to help out the pharmaceutical companies. Think of the docs as dealers and the pharma companies as drug lords. Most psych drugs tend to make symptoms worse not better, why do they keep pushing them on the unsuspecting public?

Honestly as a mother of two sons, I think that if given a chance 95 percent of boys would be diagnosed with ADHD. Not to diminish your own childs unique problems. I don't know him, so I can't have an opinion on what kind of help he needs. I'm just throwing my two cents out there. My sons have problems focusing and paying attention sometimes too. Back 20 years ago that was called being a boy.

And with the modern diet, the sugar, caffeine, preservatives, dyes and what not it's really no wonder kids are hyperactive and can't focus. I have trouble with that myself. Look, I'm not trying to blame you. I think you're only trying to do what's best for your son. So please consider what I'm saying. Take a step back, and think about what good or harm those meds are doing your son.

As far as the school goes. You have every right to be upset. They're way out of line. No way is it right to corner him that way, and lock him in a room. None of that is okay. Especially calling a police officer.

Be assertive with the school, let them know that they were wrong. He's defenseless and you're there to protect him. And please consider taking him off all the drugs. It doesn't sound like they're not doing him any good. Do some research into all of them online and see what other people have experienced while on them. Good luck.

Krissi - posted on 12/20/2009

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Sometimes ADD symptoms stem from an underlying health problem. I have a daughter who is hyper and has no attention span. Has always been that way. I refused to put her on meds. She is 15 now. Found out she had severe food allergies and she did really good when she ate whole foods and not crap out of a box and food with dyes and things you couldn't pronounce. I was very patient with her as a parent as you have to be with a child who is all over the place. My advice, do some research on ADD and the medications, have patience and get your son checked out by a healthcare provider who isn't just focused on meds. I do believe that some children really do have mental disorders (depression, bipolar, etc.) but many do not and it's really easy to find out if you take the time and have a little patience. I know it's hard right now, but take the time. He may just have something else that is wrong. Good luck.



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Lisa - posted on 12/20/2009

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Have you asked the teachers to give him harder things to work on in class? My son was never diagnosed but he gets easily distracted and bored really fast. To counter possible acting up problems I always have him doing something creative. And I asked his teachers to give him things to do extra when he's done with his assignments even if they don't grade them just to keep him busy. His father was like this and didn't make it past the 8th grade and ended up in a lot of trouble. When you have a highly intelligent child its hard to keep them satisfied...because the school work is simple. My son is 12 and in AG and is honor roll...he never brings homework home...EVER! The only things he brings home to do are projects and he loves them. So I used that as a tool and try to keep my kids in creative projects for home so he stays busy. I would also look into getting him into something along the lines of discipline training like a sport. My son is in wrestling and loves it. He knows if he messes up in school coach will kick him off the team so he does really well with his actions in school.

Stacie - posted on 12/19/2009

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I went through the same stuff with my son the right meds combo and behavior therpyand tough love i told my son if his behavior continued and theschool had to call 911 then I would let them take him and experience the consequences of his actions it was had to to accept that my son had a behavior problem but I love him enough to help him the way he needs to be helped good luick and pray

Adriane - posted on 12/19/2009

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He was taking 54mg of the concerta, he took it for 3 months. When he was on that I noticed the explosive behavior at night time especially. He has been on Guamficine for 3 days now and he hasn't got angry at all (however it is still really early) . He isn't an angry kid. I think the concerta medication made him angry, scream and yell and throw tantrums. I feel the Statterra made him more hyper and out of control. I did not see any improvement from the Strattera. I hate the fact that I even have to give him medication. Because when he is at home or in non stimulating places he does just fine. Put him in school or a B-Day party, or take him to the store FORGET ABOUT IT!

Susan - posted on 12/18/2009

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Wow your story is very familar to mine.. I also went through almost the same situation. My son has also been on a few different med. What was the mg. of the concerta that your son wos on? My son is on 54 mg. He is doing great in school now but it effects his appetite. I am going to try Strattera this weekend. My doc said that it should allow him to enjoy food again.
Has your son been diagnosed ADHD explosive? My son was diagonsed with this and the psychologist recomended a book called The Exposive Child. I am reading it and it helps. A child like this is very black and white not alot ot gray. They over react to situations that they can't cope with.
When my son gets angry he holds on the feeling too long. He also is sweet. smart and caring. Before he was on meds. at school he had to be restrained and suspended for a day. Then I knew I had to really do something. Don't feel alone because you have some one out here that is in the same boat. Wish me luck with the Strattera! I hope what I have told you helps. My ex also has this disorder but he doesn't have a clue. He thinks everyone else it wrong. Maybe if he had been on meds. we would still be together.
Good luck please let me know how things work out.

Susan - posted on 12/18/2009

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Wow your story is very familar to mine.. I also went through almost the same situation. My son has also been on a few different med. What was the mg. of the concerta that your son wos on? My son is on 54 mg. He is doing great in school now but it effects his appetite. I am going to try Strattera this weekend. My doc said that it should allow him to enjoy food again.
Has your son been diagnosed ADHD explosive? My son was diagonsed with this and the psychologist recomended a book called The Exposive Child. I am reading it and it helps. A child like this is very black and white not alot ot gray. They over react to situations that they can't cope with.
When my son gets angry he holds on the feeling too long. He also is sweet. smart and caring. Before he was on meds. at school he had to be restrained and suspended for a day. Then I knew I had to really do something. Don't feel alone because you have some one out here that is in the same boat. Wish me luck with the Strattera! I hope what I have told you helps. My ex also has this disorder but he doesn't have a clue. He thinks everyone else it wrong. Maybe if he had been on meds. we would still be together.
Good luck please let me know how things work out.

Kekua - posted on 12/17/2009

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Honestly it sounds to me like you're dealing with a school that doesn't have much experience in dealing with kids like him. I might have reacted the same way if I were him. 5 people twice his size cornered him. Then he was locked alone into a room. Obviously he has a medical condition that causes him to act out but I think your school also needs to see about getting some training as far as dealing with his needs.

Angie - posted on 12/17/2009

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I'm so sorry for you and your son. There was a child in my son's class who became so disruptive once that he sent his teacher to the hospital for stitches - he was 7. I'm not sure what the answer is but it appears that the Strattera isn't working. I think you need to take him back to the doctor and get him some help. It's too bad that he's having such a hard time at school.

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