Child support and visitation

Callie - posted on 04/23/2012 ( 13 moms have responded )

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If I go after my childs father for child support, is he more entitled to visitation? How do I ensure he only gets SUPERVISED visitation. He is a junkie and in an abusive relationship. My baby is not safe being left alone with him. What proof will I need? He is extremely attractive and a master at manipulation. Judges let him off easy every time he is arrested.

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Kaley - posted on 05/18/2012

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Document EVERYTHING! Time and dates I am going through the same except my baby's father's mother is the druggie not him.

Dana - posted on 05/07/2012

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wish I could help but im in the same boat, my daughter is 11 now and her dad has never seen her. I just filled all the paper work out for child support but scared to send it. Im scared he will tell lies about me and cause more problems then its worth. wish you luck on everything!!!

Klarissa - posted on 05/07/2012

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Callie,

If you go after your child's father for child support, then I would first contact your local county and they should be able to assist you with any questions that you need, and you should also seek out an attorney in regards to the visitation if you feel that your child will be at risk, And I would make sure that you have some examples as well for the attorney and or judge to show why the supervised visitation is necessary, I pray that this helps.

Kathy - posted on 05/01/2012

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Speak to an attorney and go from there A judge once told me I could NOT w/hold visits as he also has a need to be with his bio-father regardless of paying his child support An attorney will let you know what documentations you need for supervised visits and can best advise you as to the route you need to take for a positive action on all of this. Remember the child will NOT belittle forever and will one day be able to come to their own conclusions regardless. just saying cuz I've been there done that so I speak from first hand experience

Patricia - posted on 04/29/2012

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Hi sorry which country do you live in? I'm in the UK and from the first phonecall I made to csa I was informed that just because a father is made to pay any claims for supervision is seperate. My child's father at first said it wasn't his child so was sent for a DNA test but knowing my son was his he opted not to go as he would have had to pay for it which he didn't want to do as he knew he was the father. Csa have been.very supportive in my case and I'm always fully informed of what's going on. As for access I think if they stupid enough to give him and access it would most definately be supervised to ensure your child's safety. If thus was to happen and the father missed appointment which from what you have said I would say is likely they would cancel the visits and all visitation rights as it would cause undue stress for the child. I hope everything will work out good for you. Keep us informed.

Ginger - posted on 04/26/2012

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You can file for child support if the father is not on the birth certificate. Even if the father is on the birth certificate they usually do a D.N.A. test. Just to throw that factoid in there. And apartnetly the father is still entitled to visitation even if they don't pay, which is odd to me. If they don't care enough to pay, what makes anyone think they care at all?

Angie - posted on 04/25/2012

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Missouri is the same way as NY...child support and visitation are separate. We have a whole division that is just for child support. I just had to contact them and put the support request in; he didn't dispute being their father, so no paternity test was ordered, it was calculated and ordered. I tried to work with visitation with an alcoholic & eventually gave up...nothing he can do about it except get an attorney for a visitation order....my kids are 20 and almost 15..never happened...Now one thing to remember is if they are separate things where you live, if he is court ordered to pay child support and you are court ordered to give visitation, if he doesn't pay, you can't withhold visits; otherwise you would be in contempt of the court order as much as he is...biggest thing I've learned, don't fret about visitation until it happens, it can drive you crazy...best of luck to you :)

Kimberly - posted on 04/25/2012

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It depends on the state. I live in NY and they treat Support and Visitation/custody as two separate things. In order for him to pay support it will have to be proven that he is the father. After that both of you will have to provide documentation on income, expenses, child's health insurance, etc. The judge will then determine support based on all the information (income being the main factor). I will say that you need to stick to the facts of the situation and do not bring up anything that has nothing to do with what is being asked. If it is a support hearing and has nothing to do with visitation then bringing up him being a junkie will not have any real affect. Save that information for the custody/visitation hearing and a see if you can get a lawyer. Based on what you have told me, it might not be needed with his track record but you never know. I know a woman whose husband was a crack addict and he still got visitation. He barely showed up for them and eventually she took him back to court to have his visitation revoked. It will be a long journey but do not give up. This is for the well being of your baby.

Yolanda - posted on 04/25/2012

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The father name does not need to be on the birth certificate to receive child support. However a bblood test is necessary!

Katie - posted on 04/24/2012

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I'm probably wrong.... But I thought the father had to be on the birth certificate in order to get child support?? Like I said I'm probably wrong.



And did they give you a reason why you weren't allowed WIC?? Do you make a descent income?

Ginger - posted on 04/24/2012

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Well then I think you are all set! They won't give him un-supervised. Just prepare like they would. I hope the best for you and your baby. Good Luck!

Callie - posted on 04/24/2012

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Drew is well known to the courts as a Junkie. His record is a mile long. I have kept a DETAILED journal of everything since I was pregnant. I have all texts, fb messages, and voice mails. He currently is not on the birth certificate and my son has my last name. I do not get any assistance from the state. Not even WIC.

Ginger - posted on 04/23/2012

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Well if you go after your child's father for support they will usualy set up a visitation order at the same time. If he has actual convictions they would be more inclined to agree with supervised only. You should go down and get a copy of his record or anyting else that proves it. If you spring those types of allegations on him they may send him in for a drug test, so if he takes some smoke shop stuff to pass you may end up looking crazy. He will be entitled to visitation as long as his rights have not been removed whether voluntarily or by force. The courts will not take them away unless your child gets adopted or you get married and your husband adopts him. Soo you should bring what ever proof you have of him being a unreliable junkie. Phone messsages.. You can keep a log of all the times he said he was doing something but flaked and what not. There are a lot of legal assistance for single Moms. I frequently read Fathers4EqualRights website to learn stuff. They are pretty inclined to NOT make a kid be alone with a junkie, but the state is not in interest of you or your child. The state is in the interest of money and making someone pay for the kid so they don't have too. Keep that in mind.