Horrible teachers just caught but would you home school?

AokisMa - posted on 02/05/2012 ( 107 moms have responded )

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/...



2 teachers caught doing horrible things to babies 6-10 years old. They were doing such damage to these kids for years. Who knows if all victims will ever come forward. And its at school in LAUSD...



My little one is only 9 months, but I'm seriously considering home schooling now. Hoped to continue career... I mean all that college to stay home and teach kids? But how can I feel safe about entrusting my kids well being to horrible things like in the article? Guess I need teaching credentials and a chalk board now.



Anyone done it? What would you do differently? Or who wouldn't consider, barring finances as a concern?

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Wow it always amazes me when they consider removing art programs they are so important, they help learn everything from writing (pen control) to scientific theories (depth perception) and make for happier more balanced students because art is a great emotional outlet for everyone.



Everyone is different, so I'd just bear in mind that your daughter may not be as comfortable writing joined as you are, so by all means teach her but let her write in the way she finds comfortable once she has learned joined writing. I'm guessing that some people find joined writing easier than none joined writing, yourself and joy for example, whereas I find none joined easier it's personal preference so give your daughter that :-)

Sally - posted on 02/06/2012

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Do the research before you decide. I was concerned too until I actually looked into it and learned about unschooling/child led learning. Now I know the differences between how most people learn and how most schools teach. Now I know out how much of school is a complete waste of a child's time. Now I know how most children are deperate to learn until industrialized "education" bores and frustrates it out of them.

Some teachers ARE wonderful, but most are not and even the best teacher cannot give enough individual attention to keep the interest of every child in the room.

Like their industrially schooled peers, my daughters (7 and 2) are behind in subjects they do not like or that do not interest them. Unlike their industrially schooled peers, they are well ahead in subjects they do like. For example, in an industrial school my 7 year old would be in the second grade. She would be expected to do all subjects at a second grade level. She would be labeled as having a "learning disability" in things she didn't want to do and may qualify for "special projects" (busy work while everyone else catches up) if she were ahead in enough subjects and not behind in any. As she has been left to develop at her own pace, she writes and does written math at a kindergarten level; does physics and chemistry at a 2nd grade level; reads and does oral math problems at a 3rd-4th grade level; reads adult level history and social studies books; and enjoys college level biology texts. While she has no interest in spelling yet, her grammar and vocabulary are better than most of the adults we know. Most importantly, she isn't faking illness nearly as often as her friends; I don't have to fight her to get up every morning; I don't have to force homework every night; she loves learning; and she's happy. My total work load and financial input for this is getting library books she wants to read and showing her how to look stuff up on the internet. And her little sister is just absorbing some of the stuff big sister is learning with no effort whatsoever because she's surrounded by a learning environment every moment of every day.

Good luck with whichever path you choose.

Sherri - posted on 02/06/2012

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Just because you have 1 teacher that is bad please don't judge every teacher on 1 bad apple. There are millions of amazing teachers and schools out there and the chances you will ever encounter something like this is honestly slim to none.



Public school is amazing and my kids have done nothing but flourish in them. We are ranked the 5th best school system in the entire US. So just know you will most likely have amazing experiences and so will your kids.

Darlene - posted on 02/06/2012

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I started to home school my 9 year old Nephew when the public school system was going to push him thru to the next grade when his report card had all F's! My daughter went to a christian school for K and 1st grade. They have a wonderful program and when I discovered that I could use that same program, save $4,000.00 per year and keep my child from learning things (from other kids) that I did not want her to be exposed to, I chose to homeschool her as well.



My nephew is now making C's and improving every week. He is ADHD and the public schools in our area are in my opinion, not the best. He went to 3 schools in 2 years because of the teachers inability to handle their class and special needs children at the same time.



I agree with "Medic Mommy"! Any child that is above or below average, will not make it in public school. My nephew was far below average and my daughter is above average, in both cases, neither were getting what they needed. Now, they have my undivided attention.



I worked full time in a great field, when my daughter was born I was torn as to weather I should work or stay home with her. 9 months later I felt that it was more important for me to be with her rather than have a stranger raise her.



Home schooling is not for everyone, but with the right program, it is a piece of cake. Ours uses DVD's of an actual class room and teacher that interacts with the students watching. The lessons are laid out for me all I have to do is pull the lessons for each day out of the books and be there if they have any questions. We have reading books, craft books, science, history, spelling, math and so much more. No degree needed...just common sence. If I can do it, anyone can.



Do your homework first, find the best program for you and your children. You don't have to spend alot of money, our program was under $1,000. We take field trips, get together with other children for play time and we always have a good time.



Good luck to you.

**Jackie** - posted on 02/14/2012

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I love how you mention that you don't need credentials to home school. lol aim high

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Shamekia - posted on 03/25/2012

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I'm considering homeschooling my daughter. I left the Army after 6 years & now I'm a SAHM. I was planning on going back to work, but I saw things like this & I just told my husband maybe we should homeschool until we can teach her to tell us things. Also, you can vet the teachers. Maybe it's just something we were taught in the Army, but you can talk to someone & notice things about them that might send up warning flags. I am in no way trying to blame the parents for these teachers' disgusting actions though.

Jennifer - posted on 03/23/2012

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real fast try k12 they show you what to do online they give you all the work they can let you use a computer and best of all IT'S FREE go to www.k12.com they show you lessons they do you can try them out they have fun look into it they go from k to 12th grade i love it and so dose the 76,000 kids lol

Sally - posted on 03/15/2012

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It's easy to be intimidated. You've spent your whole life being trained that your child "needs" a professional teacher 20 hours per week to "learn" basic stuff and you are just not good enough. Even if you are good enough, how would you ever find the time. That's how the public schools stay in business.

When I was going through my "Am I good enough to do this?" phase of homeschool learning, I found out all sorts of nifty things. Here are just a few of the facts that took my fear away.

The teachers didn't excel in every subject either. They have a curriculum and a lesson plan that tells them what to teach and when and how to teach it. You can buy one of those or sign up for one on-line. Most of teacher school also has much less to do with education than with crowd control. Homeschoolers rarely need crowd control in their "school".

Most kids really want to learn anything and everything until they go to school and we bore them out of it or tell them it's "too hard" or their friends tell them it's "not cool".

When you can skip the paperwork and busywork and tailor the lesson to the child, a week of school work can be taught in 2-3 hours. If you want your child to do work sheets or drills, they can work on that by themselves while you do other things just like a school teacher would.

With an average state curriculum, you have learned most of what you will need in your adult life by the end of 5th grade. The rest is review and specialization. Depending on what you choose to do with your adult life, 50-90% of that specialization will be a complete waste of your time. A homeschooled kid has a better chance of figuring out what they want to specilize in faster (and more chances to change their mind) because their education is not being held to anyone else's level.

A conventionally schooled child learns most of their social skills from their peers (who are likely just as bad at it as they are) and will spend most of their "socialization" with the same group of 20-30 people their same age and socio-economic status. A homeschooled child learns most of their social skills from adults who want them to succeed and will spend most of their "socialization" out in the real world dealing with all sorts of people.

Good luck

Sally - posted on 03/15/2012

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"Socialization" is the big fear among peopl considering homeschooling, but it's often quite a joke amongst experienced homeschoolers.

Industrially schooled kids spend most of their time in one room with 20-30 people who are within 1-2 years of them in age and mostly of the same socio-economic status while 1 adult stands in front and tells them what to think and when to think it and they learn most of their people skills from their peers who are no better at it (and may be worse) than they are.. Homeschooled kids spend the same amount of time actually out in their communities interacting with all different kinds of people and learn their people skills from adults who care about them and want them to succeed.

Which "socialization" is really going to serve your child better when they grow up and go out into the world on their own?

Christine - posted on 03/14/2012

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With both K12 and Connections Academy you are NOT their teachers. They have teachers and online classes they attend. They both mail you the materials your child needs such as books, workbooks, etc and there is a "teacher's copy" with answers in it for you to use. I have had to help my daughter with some of the lessons in 8th grade English, but with the internet and looking at her books I've been able to figure it out. Between my husband and me we've been successful and I'd much rather have to work a little harder to ensure she gets a better education than just sticking her in the school system here in UT where they over-inflate their graduation rates and the kids are way behind the rest of the nation. In my opinion, having the name Utah on ANY diploma of ANY kind (public, private, charter, or even college) is a joke and an insult.

Audra - posted on 03/14/2012

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I'm intimidated by the idea, considering all of the subjects. I didn't excel at every one. It's also been so long since I've been in school myself, I've forgotten everything. The two main obstacles for me are, how do I manage a home AND be a great teacher? And how do I provide that social interaction, with kids from all cultures and backgrounds?

Christine - posted on 03/14/2012

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Connections Academy is another free online public school. We started with K12 in November because they could get my daughter in the fastest, but we may change to Connections for high school.

Jennifer - posted on 03/14/2012

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try a online school called K12 its GREAT they give you everything you need its free my son is in it and doing well the school he was going to was dumbing him down cause he was on top of the class and they didnt want to deal with it and lots more it will be hard at times but in the end you can see what they r learning you say if you dont want them to learn it the site should be www.k12.com

Christine - posted on 03/12/2012

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My daughter spent 2 weeks in the public school system here before I could get her in a home-school program. The education system here in UT is non-existent.

Leslie - posted on 03/12/2012

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I don't believe they got rid of the no child left behind act. I currently am going to school to become a teacher and it has been a dream of mine to be able to teach ever since I was young. I know that there is alot of bad politics going into education right now and it is getting really difficult for educators. I understand that the choice is yours and your families, because ultimately family safety comes first, but I can tell you that I have met plenty of aspiring teachers who are working towards becoming teachers and we are all so excited to be teaching our future generations! Please please please take alot of time and consideration in this idea! I know as a mom I am going to be looking for the best school I can give my daughter opportunity to go to!

But don't give up on us good aspiring teachers!!!

Lili - posted on 03/08/2012

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I've home-schooled and my son is doing awesome. He plays with neighborhood kids and is totally sociable when we have play dates.



I myself went to a public school and I made sure I was in the "good" classes. It was scary at times, but I do have more street smarts because of it.



I used studytunes.org to keep my son interested when lessons got boring and I had trouble keeping his attention, and I do recommend that since he'd rather listen to music than do anything else and it was my only "comeback" sometimes :)

Jolene - posted on 03/07/2012

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Last year I started home schooling my twins age 15 now an my cousins 2 children as neither the children or us parents like how the Public school system deals with different issues with the children. This year I an still homeschooling my son an 1 cousin an a friends daughter as we all as parents need to look out for the best interest of our children. Yes not all Public schools are bad but if you do live in an area where you feel you can do better as teachers for you child. Try it out, only you can see if it is right for your family. When I started with my children I wish I would have started years ago. This year my daughter went back to school as she wanted to join the dance team an they were giving us problems as a homeschool family an wouldnt let her in but she wanted it bad enought so I let her go back. Tho today I wish she was homeschooled still She is old enough to help make choices for her furture. As for my new baby of 15 month I will be homeshooling her until she decides she want to go to Public school. You cant let the decision of a bad teacher help make your choice for your family unless you live in that town. You need to decide that homeschooling is right for you. As it is not for everyone. I am a single mother who lives with my cousins and I homeschool 4 kids with the internet, library and local book store. I do this on a very low budget an we do just fine. so just research your state laws an see what you can find on the net.. You will feel better when you have made the right choice for your family.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 03/04/2012

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I was bullied by teachers and a principal in high school which is why I didn't send my daughter to that school district. I sent her to a private school last year. However when I was bullied by teachers my parents got involved and did something about it.



I don't believe in living in fear though so I do send my daughter to public school. Right now here in BC we're having a lot of issues with the Liberal government wanting to break their contract with the teachers here and wanting to jam 30-35 kids into the classes while not giving out raises. So from Tomorrow until Wednesday the teachers are on strike all through the province and DH and I get to home school.

Mother - posted on 03/04/2012

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"I hear many instances of teachers bullying students."

--this has become a huge problem everywhere.

Tracey - posted on 03/03/2012

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Child porn is such a huge problem that it doesn't surprise me that teachers are caught in it. In fact, there have been two similar cases since the start of the year!



We've always homeschooled, and this is part of the reason.



Not only that, but as my county's homeschooling liaison, I hear many instances of teachers bullying students. Our county liaisons state-wide have a private message board to help us learn how to respond to requests for helping other homeschoolers, so it's not just my area, but state-wide. I've heard of instances in other states, so it's nation-wide.



In many cases it's a personality conflict, and the teacher isn't mature enough to get past it.

TAMMY - posted on 03/01/2012

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I'm homeschooling both my teenage boys and they are doing there home schooling through FLVS. It's a really good site you get to talk to the teachers and they get to talk to the kids as well. Really I don't trust my kids going to school because it's so much going on in schools now that makes me really nervous. My advice, enroll them in virtual school on the computer. It's better and you won't have any worries about whats going on around your kids at school.

Carla - posted on 02/29/2012

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I'm currently home schooling my 9 yr old daughter now. This is my first time doing it this school year and like you I had my doubt at first. Luckily, I was told about the free K12 (www.k12.com) program and I was surprised at how easy it REALLY was. They send you ALL the materials you will need and for some families even an entire computer system including a printer/copier/scanner. The lesson plans are already put together and all you have to do is go through the lessons. Also, there is also a time of day when your child will work with an online teacher. My daughter is in speech and believe it or not, but she also takes online speech classes via webcam. I ABSOLUTELY love this program!!! Plus, I have the comfort of knowing my daughter is learning, I get to spend more quality time with her, and she gets to learn in many different settings (including the food court at the mall or out in the yard). Also, she hasn't been sick and she is a child that is asthmatic and used to get sick often. I would STRONGLY recommend it!!! Best of luck to you! :)

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 02/28/2012

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I may have to home school because the BC teachers may go on strike soon.

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For many reason we homeschool. We love it. I do long for ALONE time but other then that I have no complaints. I don't like the public school systems at all!!

Margaret - posted on 02/22/2012

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I feel U, sista! I have 2 daughters, and all these HORRIBLE crimes done to children (just in the past month) is just disgusting! Your daughter's still a baby, but I know how u feel about the fact that she'll be grown up soon enough. It's scary out there, really is. All you can do is your homework - ask questions, find out if any schools/ daycare centers have been reported (usually via the BBB), find out about the teachers, staff, directors, owners, etc. I feel SO blessed that my kids are in a pre-school that is safe. I thought about home-schooling, too, but as much as I LOVE my kids, they need the socialization experiences AWAY from me. Plenty of times that we're at playdates, parties, get-togethers, etc., they WANT to play w/ other kids - it's human nature. But, don't let my feedback make you decide. You still have time to plan, research, strategize, etc., so don't stress out too much....bottom line, trust YOUR instinct as a Mother - your child will learn trust and safety best from YOU first, and will learn to trust others, too. Hope that helps :)

Starla - posted on 02/21/2012

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I had always planed to work. I have my B.S in biology with a minor in Chemitry. But i also knew that i would like to homeschool my kids because i hated public schoolso much. It just so happened that just as i graduated i had my first child and i never did find any job that paid very well so i became a stay at home mom. My oldist is 5 now and i'm homeschooling him.And i love it. And as far as finances go i understand if you have to work, but by the time you take into consideration of the cost of school, child care, your gas and food just to get to and from your job in most cases you don't make much if any money. I don'r regret it and i say if you can afford it then stay home with your kids.

Starla - posted on 02/21/2012

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I had always planed to work. I have my B.S in biology with a minor in Chemitry. But i also knew that i would like to homeschool my kids because i hated public schoolso much. It just so happened that just as i graduated i had my first child and i never did find any job that paid very well so i became a stay at home mom. My oldist is 5 now and i'm homeschooling him.And i love it. And as far as finances go i understand if you have to work, but by the time you take into consideration of the cost of school, child care, your gas and food just to get to and from your job in most cases you don't make much if any money. I don'r regret it and i say if you can afford it then stay home with your kids.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 02/15/2012

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Medic, that's kind of cool. One of my friends in TX was home schooled and now attends Texas A&M (I don't know which one and she's not online to ask) She was taking some AP courses while being home schooled and also did 4H for one of her extras.



I like the schools here in Canada and so far I've been lucky with the teachers my older daughter has had (both here and back in NY) so I'll continue sending her to mainstream school (she was in private school last year so I can't really say public school)

Medic - posted on 02/15/2012

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Most co-ops around here are bible thumpin agenda pushing organizations. I do think that homeschooling can work but it totally depends on how you do it. My son is home schooled through a Texas University but he has many after school activities with the same kids he went to school.

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I havent found one yet, but we live in a large town so I know there are plunty! Just thought I would throw that out there.

Joy - posted on 02/15/2012

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Tasha, there's a co-op that's starting in a week or two in my local area and has proposed to do that, but unfortunately, I still work mornings -and the group wants to meet in the mornings. Luckily, my daughter's daycare is interested in doing this so she'll get some of that that way, but at this time I don't know a whole lot about them. And its just forming with a few interested moms that have children my daughter's age in my circle of local friends (I live in a small city so there's bound to be other co-ops around somewhere.)

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I'm suprised people who are for homeschooling havent said something about the idea of co-ops. Which are homeschooling schools! Its where a group of parents take their kids and help teach the kids so if there is a subject you dont know very well someone else teachs it to them. You dont have to be a teacher to teach. You just need to know your limits and be willing to look and ask for help. (True for both hence the reason public school was started)

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Wow, maurita the public schools where you live may be crap but that isn't the case for everywhere. I know that yes there are schools locally to me that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole because they are rubbish but there are also some amazing schools, where the children not only learn but flourish....my kid is going to attend one of the latter schools.



Just remember that while yes some teachers are rubbish and only care about their pay most teachers care tremendously about their students, and do their absolute best to ensure these kids have a fulfilling educating experience with them, most teachers are very good at what they do and put a lot of effort into making sure their students get the best education from them. Most teachers put a lot of extra unpaid effort into how they teach their children, they use their free time to plan lessons, make demonstrations, get ideas to make lessons fun and fulfilling, they do all of this free work because they care!



Having no credentials is all fine and dandy as long as you have the brains to teach your children what they need, without indoctrinating them to your way....

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 02/14/2012

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Carol, you can do that in NY and TX too if you homeschool. I went to public and private schools in New York, but I did Cross country and show jumping and they had lessons for home schooled kids at the farm I rode at which counted as their gym class.



I also have a friend down in TX (who is now attending college) who was in 4H and all that good stuff while she was home schooled.



But I still want to say that not all public schools suck. It depends on location. In Canada obviously they didn't do the whole 'No child left behind' because it was an American idea and their public schools are pretty good. Sadly here in BC we're lacking funding because the BC teachers' union is fighting with the government because the BC government is doing things that they aren't supposed to do. However my daughter still gets the same level of education she would without the strike to work here in the province. You can't go and make sweeping statements without knowing all the facts. That's all I'm saying.

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I have wanted to home school my kids for a long time. Public schools are sucky, and im glad they got rid of the No ( that no needs to be crossed out) Child Left Behind bill. It ruined schools. I have gone to public school and i hated it. I'd rather be able to teach my kids and have them learn more than send them to school so they can hang out. Here in PA, kids can join teams and bands through schools, that was my husbands big deal about home schooling, he had to go to attend the school in WV to do those things, here you dont.

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I think everyone can agree to disagree on this matter. I personal will be homeschooling my children because the school district we live in is unprepared to handle the needs of my child. Not to mention our local school dist. has made some poor choices in the last 2 yrs as far as how to handle money, staffing & programs. So that being the case to protect and nurture my childs needs she will be taught at home using many different tools. (Online public school being one of those tools) If we could get her into the next school dist. over I would be more likely to send her to public school but this coming yr thats not the choice that fits my family.



Please lets remember we are all here for a common goal-TO SUPPORT OTHER MOTHERS ON THIS ROUGH AND ROCKY ROAD OF MOTHERHOOD! Lets please remember also written words do not always come out as they a ment to be taken. (On either side of an issue) Please count this as an MOD warning for everyone T.H.U.M.P.S :-)

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 02/14/2012

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Maurita I wasn't offended just taken aback. Do you have that little reguard for teachers that you believe that you or someone else who has no bloody idea what they're doing would do a better job teaching your child (who BTW you don't feel 'needs' school in the first place)? Honestly?



Besides I openly stated that the schools in my home district were pretty bad. I should know, my brother and I attended them. This is why I opted for a Private school.

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It has nothing to do with defending the schools it has to do with knowing the education my children are getting. Plus you can not speak for things you don't know about and the only thing you know about is what is in your area not everywhere. So you can not lump every school, school system or even the teachers together.



Plus I would so rather a teacher that adores her job has the credentials and is giving my son a top notch education. Then homeschool a child w/a mom that has no idea what I am doing.

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I think your response is slightly offensive too, Maurita, although I do agree than in some places a mother is the better qualified teacher. I would word it differently.



It would depend on the school/area/etc. for me. I'm aware of my limitations in teaching my children. I'm a human being, therefore, I'm imperfect is my logic. So there are other people who will have better credentials. I just have to find them. ...and my child's only 2 years old so I have a few years to look around my neck of the woods.



My mom didn't send me to public schools in certain times in my childhood because she could and did do a better job of teaching, but when the situation changed I went to a public high school.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 02/14/2012

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I was looking for the WTF button to rate that post. Don't send your child to school?!



Maurita, Sherri's right (the world stopped turning for 5 seconds when I typed that) just because your public schools are horrid doesn't mean that all public schools are. Last year when my older daughter was going to start Kindergarten instead of allowing her to go to the same school district that had failed me I applied for a grant from the Diocese of Rochester and enrolled her in a private Catholic school. Yes I had to pay 220$ a month, but it was worth it. And she learned a lot too.



I live in Canada now and our schools are ranked THIRD in the world. We have a strike to work in our schools here in BC, but our teachers are still doing what they should for our children. My daughter's teacher even took time that she didn't need to take (because of the Strike to work) and taught myself and a few other parents games on how to help our children have fun learning.



So no, I'm not going to keep my kid from school just because one school district doesn't do it's job. Here's a thought, if your school district isn't doing what it should, get off your arse and do something about it.

Maurita - posted on 02/14/2012

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I don't mind that I offend people. I knew you would defend your schools without question it is a typical response.

Good Luck

Stifler's - posted on 02/14/2012

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I'd rather my kids be taught by someone with credentials. A good parent wants their kids to be smarter and better not a carbon copy.

**Jackie** - posted on 02/14/2012

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Yikes Maurita! I feel really bad for you and the area in which you live! Our schools are not like that at all.

Sherri - posted on 02/14/2012

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Yup your right Maurita very very close minded and offensive.



Just because your public schools stink does not mean that is even relatively the case for all. My kids go to public school and are in 1 of top 5 school systems in all of the US. So you need to speak for yourself not everyone or every school system.

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Why do people send their kids to school anyway? To learn what? When I saw the people my children were going to be with all day there was absolutely no other choice but to Home School. Most of the teachers have no imagination or ambition and I know I am going to offend many people but most are worried about their small little paycheck.

You don't need credentials to Home School. Learning to read and write is not that difficult. Why do we treat children like they are so stupid and learning is difficult. Aim higher expect more from your children. Also consider if you can't stay home there are other moms that Home School and will take your child into their home too. So many solutions don't hand your child over tho the state it is too risky.

If you want your children to think for themselves do not put them in school especially public school.

Think outside the box. Maurita

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I think anytime a child, teen, baby, even adult is molested, its a very serious issue with long lasting, if not apparent psychological reprecussions. Glad to hear your mom is able to cope with her experience so succinctly, sadly many are not.

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I also have quick comments on cursive. Left handed writer, so had "issues" in elementary when learning as they always wanted cursive to lean slightly to the right. Difficult for lefties. Did use it as adult in college and work. Thought it allowed me to take quicker notes than printing. Rarely use it outside of those settings though because my printing is much neater. On same hand, I took geometry and rarely have to recall a theorem, calculus and rarely if ever use derivatives. Does this mean learning things like this was useless? It would be easy for me to say yeah. But IMHO, the experience added to my never ending ability to recall questionably useful facts and appear smarter than the average bear. Lol

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I'd like to offer a few comments - I do live in the city of Los Angeles, which is where abuse in stories originally referred to occurred. Since then another LA teacher has admitted to abusing kids in his care as well. I am not scared of stories like this because they are all too familiar in schools and increasingly (at least in LA), at churches too. What I fear is someone abusing my child. I know there are bad people in all walks of life, to me the probability of an incident occurring in areas with repeat offenders is higher than those without.



I have been called "overly analytical" by team members in the past. But my masters was is in Computer Information Systems and Quantitative Business Analysis, so I must say I really appreciate the studies, stats and papers everyone has made reference to during this thread. Its the sort of thing I can wrap my head around.



For what it's worth, I too, have been known to cut and paste in attempt to quickly and accurately relay facts... Using a tablet that looses Internet connection in the middle of a lengthy post and auto corrects too often so cutting and pasting may offer solution in some cases, true?

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First, my mom was molested by an Uncle so it's not like this couldn't happen at home instead of at school. I'm not trying to make light of the subject I'm just saying that children can't be protected from everything by keeping them at home. BTW, my mom is now 58 and functioning as a normal adult- she has been functioning as a normal person for years as have her sisters who were also molested. So as long as these children receive conseling there shouldn't be much of an issue. Plus 6-10 years are hardly babies. This is thankfully a very uncommon occurance which is part of the reason why it's considered news.



I'm from the US and my daughter did attend a private schoo in western NY last year where she had the chance to learn Spanish along with other subjects. She has been speaking some since she was 2, but that's another subject. I live in BC now and the entire province is under a Strike to work because the BC Liberal government is violating previous rulings. However I haven't seen any signs of this affecting my daughter's opportunity to learn. Her grade one teacher does crafts and my daughter is a member of the Art club.



I'm not going to home school because I'm not cut out for it.



Katie, I have a friend in TX who was home schooled and now is in college. She adjusted just fine from home school to a college so it does vary from person to person.

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Its hard to say what works for different families and situations but I will tell you that I will never homeschool my children. My husband and his brother were home schooled and worse off for it. My brother in law in particular will never recover socially. This may not be the norm of course but for my family it was not a good experience so we are steering clear. I made sure to move to a school district with a great schools so that hopefully it will never be an issue. Goodluck!

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Meh, I've had to use my german twice, the first was when I holidayed in Germany, the second was when a german lady came into the shop I was working in.



Yes we have Montessori schools here, but the nearest to me is at least an hour away, without traffic, it's not something I've considered for my children or looked into in any great depth because I simply couldn't afford the petrol to get there and back five times a week and the schools locally to me are good schools, with good reports :-)

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Toni, I know some sign language, some Japanese and a lot of German. And my husband knows Russian. I'd think German's more useful in Europe than here. In the U.S. Spanish and Chinese (possibly Arabic when my daughter's older -depends on how the world events go) are more needed.



The Montessori preschool in my area does offer Chinese lessons as an extra-curricular activity. Our Montessori only goes for 3 years though so when my daughter's 6 we'd have to do something else (like homeschooling.) Other Montessori schools have older students.



I thought Montessori was an international school system? Each area being slightly different, per laws, culture and resources, of course, but I thought it started in Italy.

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Mrs. Fairchild, yes, there is that too in the schools. My marriage is mixed somewhat religiously so both my husband and I have agreed to teach our daughter what several different cultures (not just mine and his) believe. There are also parochial schools as an option for other people, but in my family my husband and I are turning those down very strongly for different personal reasons.

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Mrs fairchild, nobody said you were doing any bullying, and I agree that Sherri's comment was a bit sharp but I can understand why she was frustrated with your comments. It is rude to deliberately mis-spell a persons name once it has been pointed out you are mis-spelling the name on more than one occasion. It is snide to insinuate that someone may not be the religion they say they are and to try to belittle them with religious quotes. It is argumentative to suggest someone has edited comments when they haven't.



As for jackie's perceived confusion, I obviously read it in a different manner to you, I read the second comment as being about herself, not about homeschooling in general, which connects with her first comment and removes the confusion and hypocrisy!



Joy, With our little ones the schools in my district allow entrance a week after their third birthday and they stay in nursery (pre school) until the September before their fifth birthday, so my son will have longer at nursery than some of the other kids (like his friend as she's 3 in July when the school is out, so she'll start in September).



I have skills that I don't necessarily need but are actually useful, such as knowing sign language and german :-) I will be teaching my kids the sign I know because you never know when it'll come in handy, so I understand why you want to teach your daughter joined writing.

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