to get or not to get it?

Sharlene - posted on 10/22/2011

Hi , yes Im 33 yrs old and had cervical cancer first stages. I wish they had that vaccine when I was younger. All the best

Jenna - posted on 10/22/2011

Definately! It can help prevent cervical cancer so why not! Also 7/10 women do come in contact with hpv sometime in their lives and it isn't always spread sexually; you can catch it from skin to skin contact with an infected person.

Michelle - posted on 10/22/2011

Carly,

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Teen-S...

http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/05/abstinence/re...

Both sides are not equal. One is actually based on science, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science, with actual reputable, published scientists and one side is based on junk science, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_scienc... Cannot compare the two.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/inde...

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/facts...

http://deni-edwards.hubpages.com/hub/cal...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/799151...

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-...

Carly - posted on 10/22/2011

My advice would be to join a few vaccine groups on facebook and read the articles from both sides and make your choice. Most sites pro or anti vac post lots of articles on both sides. Also look at the ingredents list and reseach what you're putting into your daughter.

Personally my 3 girls have never had a shot and never will as long as they live under my roof. My husband and I will be taching them to wait till marriage. Since they are homeschooled they won't be around the schools teaching that sex at a young age is okay and getting free condoms to enforce that. Good luck either way.

Kelly - posted on 10/21/2011

I have one sister who has HPV, and she would tell you to absolutely get the vaccine. My other sister got the vaccine in HS. I also have someone close to me who got HPV and recently discovered she has cervical cancer and will lose a good portion of her cervix because of it. I think it's worth getting the vaccine in the long run. Talk to your daughter about it. Explain what HPV and cervical cancer are and ask her what she wants. It's her body and her future.

Sal - posted on 10/20/2011

another thing that i have heard latley is that while people think they are safe from hvp because they haven't had "sex" as in vaginal penitation sex a lot of this is being passed orally from oral sex either female to male male to female or female to female, so the 2 young people involved can still be essetially virgins and still get the virus so there is just no way i wouldn;t get it for my daughters....i',m not totally sure where i heard this but seen as i only really listen to radio national it wasn;t going to be some media hyped up story...

Sara - posted on 10/20/2011

I absolutely recommend it! I had this done before I was sexually active and it helped to protect me. also, the past two years I've had an abnormal pap and both times it has come back as hpv cells. nothing cancerous, thank god, but now a days you only need to be seen by the gyn every 3 years but I will be going every year til I have a normal pap. This shot however, only protects against a few strands of hpv, not all of them but it is better to protect while they're young then when it's too late. good luck with your decision!

Donna - posted on 10/19/2011

Haha I actually thought I was going to wait till i was married to have sex too, yeah curiosity and hormones got the best of me there

Donna - posted on 10/19/2011

Im not sure, I havent really looked into it that much. But when I think about it I'm sure if it were my daughters I probably would. Better safe than sorry

Rosie - posted on 10/18/2011

her future husband could have hpv...

Sherri - posted on 10/18/2011

Oh man cringes that you actually are so naive that you think teaching them abstinence only is the answer.

Jenna - posted on 10/18/2011

I will not be having my daughter, currently age three, getting it. HPV is sexually transmitted and I believe that if a child is taught correct principles regarding sexual activity and why wait until marriage, they will choose to wait and then it won't even be an issue.

Stifler's - posted on 10/16/2011

Sleeping with one person with it (it's not detectable to the human eye) you can get it.

Helen - posted on 10/16/2011

Is this the cervical cancer vac? if so...I have just spent almost 12 mths deciding for my daughter. In the end I decided against due to what is in the vac. I did tell her that by not having it she needed to protect herself against STI's and if she slept around she might get the virus that makes the lesions that turns into cancer. We talked about the risk and she is very sensible and knows she must protect herself.

Mikayl - posted on 10/10/2011

speaking from someone that did not get the shots and actually has cervical cancer because I did not get the shots. I would deffinatly get the shots. NO questions asked. After all I have had to go through because I didnt get the shots is absoultly crazy, Way to much pain to even explain, emotionally and physically. Its something you can prevent and possibly save your daughters life.

Kelly - posted on 10/05/2011

For every cvaccine there are risks and it just comes don to whther you think it's worth it or not
my whole family has had odd pap test, and my mums had cancer and i have an increased risk of s\cervical cancer because of polycystic ovarian syndrome. so I go it. As an adult. I figured if it dropped some of those risk factors down a bit, why the hell not?

*Fluffy Bunnies - posted on 10/04/2011

Also note that one of the HPV shots covers only 4 strains (gardisil). The shot made by a different manufacturer only covers 2 strains.



Gardisil covers two stains that cause genital warts and 2 that they believe are linked to cervical cancer. There are many different strains of HPV. Just because you get the shot doesn't mean you won't get HPV and related complications. There are several strains that can still cause abornomal pap smears that need to be watched closely. Others stains cause no issues at all. The shot doesn't make you 100% protected from all HPV strains. Just FYI.

Michelle - posted on 10/04/2011

If you would like to find out abut HPV, what it is, why we have it, what are the risks, the politics, etc, here are a whole bunch of links about the science of it and such.



Just because someone comments with their OPINION doesn't mean it's factual. Research and make an informed opinion before making critical decisions. If you are really concerned talk to your Pediatrician or an expert.



You don't self treat yourself for a broken bones, cancer, or whatever you go to someone who has been trained and has the education behind them to get help whether you are getting your car fixed or need to see a medical specialist.



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side...



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccine...



http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/facts...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine



http://www.health.state.ny.us/prevention...



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/addi...



http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/inde...



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/03...



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/09/...



Edit: Just because there is a link doesn't mean the info is true. Find out who is financing the info, the agenda, if they have any qualifications in the subject area, etc and take that into consideration, too. There are a lot of quack sites out there, people purporting their expertise when in reality they have none, sites funded by big money with an agenda, etc.

Sal - posted on 10/02/2011

if the vaccine is not being given as the parents don;t believe in sex before marriage that isnan unacceptable reason, that is far too much faith to put in someone elses genitals......your daughter might not have sex pre marriage but her husband might, it is just too much of a risk to take with something you have no control over what so ever......

Kristin - posted on 10/02/2011

My best friend died of cervical cancer. It was to far advanced to say whether it was from HPV or not. She started having back pain (very severe) in September. And unrelated she went to have her annual pap done. It turns out she had cervical cancer which had spread. By January (days before her 30th birthday) she had passed away. I would not take a chance with my own children. Get the vaccine.

Keri - posted on 10/01/2011

I think it's like any other vaccine. All of them have inherent risks along with the benefits. The concern about getting the shot encouraging girls to have sex is just crap. The point of a vaccine is to protect BEFORE contraction of a disease - which is why, although many believe the diseases are long gone in the US, we still get measles, mumps, rubella, and many other vaccines.

Tawnya - posted on 09/28/2011

Deformedgranchildren? Really? My sister and I have both had it and our children are perfectly healthy children and it is a fact that it does cervical cancer...I am a walking example. As many people know, no matter how involved one is in the church or elsewhere it will not keep them from having sex. Our world is oversexualized and its more likely that they will have sex before marriage.

Tawnya - posted on 09/28/2011

I strongly reccomend it. Me and my sister both got HPV and I got cervical cancer at 18, I almost lost my youngest during pregnancy due to the surgery I had to have. I feel it is better to get it early before they have intercourse and contract it and ruin chances of having a family. My girls and my sisters girls will be getting it. Research it and discuss it with our doctor, I feel the benefits outweigh the risks 10 to 1.

Sarah - posted on 09/28/2011

Thank you Raechil! That was exactly my point! :) It is not safe and I will not give it to my daughter, period. I think that some people just like to argue their point of view until they beat it to death. I am not one of those people so I am leaving this discussion now. Like I said before, no matter what you decide to do Leeann, you have to do what you think is right for your daughter. You are her mother and only you can decide what is right for you and yours. I wish you the best of luck in the future. :)

Rosie - posted on 09/28/2011

there is aluminum in everything christa, from breastmilk, formula, veggies, tea, nuts, flour, seasonings, honey, antacids, antiperspirants, aspirin....it's the third most abundant element in the world. you cant escape it.

you've already given your child more aluminum by feeding them than vaccines give them. your body makes more aluminum while pregnant, it increases with each month. the highest levels of aluminum in your child are going to be when it's first born.

aluminum is necessary for life. just as water is, or oxygen. too much of any of those things can be toxic. there is NOT enough aluminum in a vaccine to be toxic. like i said, there is more in the food we eat, medicine we take, and it disheartens me that people buy into this stuff without looking into facts first.

Christa - posted on 09/27/2011

No go here....the risk of aluminum in our bodies and the side affects it has.....is too high risk for me to chance this with my daughter.

Leeann - posted on 09/27/2011

well this turned into something didn't it. keep it going if you want just remember to keep it civil ladies.

Sal - posted on 09/27/2011

get it, like most have said look into it but anything that limits a chance of getting cancer had got to be worth considering, how would you live with yourself if in years she got cervical cancer even if there are other factors you would go back in time and do it.

and theresa, you were very certain but no reasob given, can i ask why?? i am just curious, is it a moral reason or a medical one?

Raechil - posted on 09/27/2011

I read up on it alot and most of the cases that they are saying were not because of the vaccine were in people who had seizure problem and other natural life threatening physical problems, but if you read and really pay attention its also reported that in most of these cases the kids hadnt had ANY problem in YEARS then all of a sudden after getting the vaccine the problem suddenly comes back 100 times worse and it kills them. Sorry but no matter how you look at it the vaccine is NOT safe and was not tested enough before being distributed.

By the way if it was completely safe like people keep saying then why did they recall it? Its an optional vaccine for a reason.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

sure they do. there were no more deaths in groups that were vaccinated than groups that weren't. teens die, not very often, but they do.
teens also get guillen barre syndome. not very often but they do. a coworker of mine's never been vaccinated in her life daughter got it last year. if these deaths were to be attributed to the vaccine there would have to be MORE deaths than normal and there isn't, period. you're simply speculating when you say they are attributed to the vaccine. there's no science behind that. that would be like convicting someone of murder without any proof, just simple coincidences. you cant do that.

Sarah - posted on 09/27/2011

I am against this vaccine for various reasons that I have stated before on here. I am not against vaccines so please do not put words into my mouth. I would think that you would want to know then what the deaths were attributed to and why they died before you get the vaccine for your children. I mean if they were deaths that were caused by something natural, was it the vaccine that brought it out? There are so many different scenarios but a healthy teen or pre-teen does not just die.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

you said you wouldn't get the vaccination-i assume that means you're against it. and the CDC said that the autopsies showed the cause of death in the ones that they autopsied was not attributed to gardasil. what else am i supposed to think if you don't believe that?

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

the next words after that though sherri are that it's not law, and that is what that particular law in california would be. i was talking about the bill that they are trying to pass. the other women was making it seem like they snatch every kid up and vaccinate them whether the child wants it or not. i was simply clarifying that that proposed law wasn't the way she was making it sound.

Sarah - posted on 09/27/2011

Did I say I was against vaccines? No, I did not. Maybe you should re-read now. I didn't say that the CDC lies, I asked you if you read the autopsy reports personally.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

so the CDC lies then? is that what you are saying? i really wish people who are against vaccines would go back in time to when there were no vaccines, and have to worry about their child catching things we don't have to worry about anymore THANKS TO VACCINES. the mind boggles.

Sherri - posted on 09/27/2011

Dyan these are your exact words you did say it.
and second, cynthia you make it sound like they are taking kids and vaccinating them whether the child wants it or not. that's not the case, the child gives permission and then gets the vaccine without parental permission.

Sarah - posted on 09/27/2011

Not even one death because that next death could be my child and I am not okay with that. Have you read the autopsy reports? Do you know exactly what they said? If you don't, then you don't know for a fact that they were not because of the vaccine.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

i didn't say that sherri. reread :)

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

actually sarah, it also said when autopsies were done the cause of death was NOT attributed to the vaccine.

as for your situation of being vaccinated. it's illegal to do that. don't know about 23 years ago.

i have to wonder about your stance. not even ONE death is acceptable? even though it would prevent thousands of deaths? you might have your risk/benefit ratio a little screwed up...

Sherri - posted on 09/27/2011

Okay where you are it is but not everywhere it isn't. So you can't say every teen has a say because they don't. My child in NH has zero say whether he wants it or not.

Sarah - posted on 09/27/2011

Dyan, when I was 5, in kindergarten, in Texas, I was taken out of my class and given a vaccine by the school nurse. That was 23 years ago so I can see them doing that. As far as the deaths related to this vaccine, this quote does not make me feel any better; "there was no unusual pattern..... that would SUGGEST that they were caused by the vaccine". This is just the drug companies way of trying to make themselves feel better about the deaths and not copable for them. I'm sorry but a healthy teenager or pre-teen does not just die, period. What these drug companies are probably saying is that there was an underlying issue that would have caused them to die later but the vaccine probably brought it on a lot quicker. I'm sorry but even one death (related to this vaccine or health issues brought on or out by the vaccine (unless it's a car accident or something)) is not okay to me and not okay for me to risk my child's life. If there is one death then there is a chance that my daughter could die. This is why the vaccines that they do get, I make them give them to them one at a time and I stay at the hospital for 20 minutes after they get it. I have a friend whose son almost died from a vaccine and she told me that you can request that they give the vaccines to them individually, even the ones that are already pre-mixed. Just a thought.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

yes it is. in california they are trying to pass a law that makes it so teens have control over their own sexual health, including prevention of STD'S and pregnancy. involved in that is the gardasil vaccine since it's a preventative measure. it's not law yet though...here's a little more about it.http://news.yahoo.com/ca-ab-499-nixes-pa...

Sherri - posted on 09/27/2011

Actually Dyan that isn't true. I had to give permission or not allow it for my children. They had zero say if they wanted it or not, it is no different than any other vaccination my kids have zero say until they are 18yrs old which vaccinations they want or don't. Anyone under 18 has to have a parents permission here and has to have a parent sign a consent for any vaccinations.

Rosie - posted on 09/27/2011

please provide your information on all of these deaths attributed to gardasil in the state of texas-or any other state for that matter, nichole. this is from the CDC website: As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports of death among those who have received Gardasil® . There were 54 reports among females, 3 were among males, and 11 were reports of unknown gender. Thirty two of the total death reports have been confirmed and 36 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.

so basically NO DEATHS have been actually linked to gardasil. none. *eyeroll at the girls dropping like flies in texas...

and second, cynthia you make it sound like they are taking kids and vaccinating them whether the child wants it or not. that's not the case, the child gives permission and then gets the vaccine without parental permission.
now i'm not sure how i feel about that either, i'm leaning towards i'd be alright with it, but it's not a law, it's something they are trying to make into law. making it seem like they can just snatch your kid and inject them at will is very misleading and does nothing for a rational argument.

Sherri - posted on 09/27/2011

I got it for my daughter and also my 2 teenage sons. I did research it, and feel that the benefits far out weight the negative. My daughter did have a sore arm for 2 or 3 days after, but that was the only side effect. Just make sure to get all 3 shots.

Cynthia - posted on 09/26/2011

No way! I don't think that the benefits outweigh the risks. It only protects agains 2 strains of HPV and there are a lot more than that going around. I have also heard of girls dying right after recieving the shot and suffering other very adverse effects. Also a little note to any California mommies out there, California is set to sign a bill into law saying that they can take your children from school and vaccinate them without your permission. Think about that. They are trying to erode our parental rights one at a time. Time to make a stand. Read this: http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/threa...

Cindy - posted on 09/26/2011

Go to Dr. Mercola's website and read his reviews on this.

Sarah - posted on 09/26/2011

I do not know a whole lot about it but I do know that the main guy who helped make it won't even give it to his daughters so I know for sure that I won't give it to mine. Although by the time it is time for her to have it (she's only 4) they'll probably have determined whether or not it is really beneficial. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I did see a response though that said to involve your daughter in church and that you don't even have to tell her anything about sex. I'm sorry but I come from Omaha, NE which has one of the highest STD rates in the country and the reason for this is because they still teach abstinance. In the classes they teach the chilren about the body parts, about a woman's cycle, about how a baby comes out, about diseases, about sex, but they don't teach the kids about how not to get pregnant. SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?! And yet the parents continue to wonder why their kids are getting pregnant younger and younger and why they are getting diseases faster and faster. I'm sorry but I was involved in my church all my life, very involved. My dad was ordained when he was 14 and he was a pastor and a deacon in my church, he even baptised me when I was growing up. I was very involved in church groups, teen groups, we went to reunions, retreats, church on Sundays and at least once a week (aside from Sunday, we always went on Sunday), Sunday school, and church camps for teens, pre-teens, kids, and young adults. I still started having sex when I was 14 and got pregnant when I was 18. It can happen to anyone. I was the model child, my parents thought I was great, I never got into trouble, I never did drugs, I never drank, I worked, was in honor choir, involved in the church, was in swing choir, and helped take care of my 3 younger brothers and my younger sister. I also babysat for all of my parents friends and for my parents whenever they needed it. I even worked part time when I was in school (20 hours a week) and full time in the summers. I was a great kid, it can happen to anyone. If you think that by not telling your kid about sex it will keep them from having sex, then you are very sadly mistaken. I'm sorry but the best thing you can do for your kids is teach them as much as you can about diseases and safe sex. Whether you want them to have sex or not (according to today's statistics) they probably will. It's just a fact and the best thing you can do to help them is teach them everything you can. I will teach my kids all that I can because I would hate for me to teach them only about abstinance and then for them to come home, tell me they had sex, and that something hurts or itches, and then find out that they have a disease that they have to live with for the rest of their life. I would feel horrible and I would never forgive myself.

Kara - posted on 09/25/2011

My daughter (13 years old) has not had the shot, will not have the shot, and has not been offered the shot by her doctor. There is not enough information on the long term effects of this vaccine. I want to know what, if any, effects this will have on my daughter's reproduction. Because I know that even if I get this vaccine for her, she can still get HPV or still develop cervical cancer, why would I risk other side effects of a vaccine? It all boils down to what the parents want and feel is right for their child.

Staci - posted on 09/25/2011

YES