BF's daughter bullying baby!

MamaTo2 - posted on 10/17/2010 ( 14 moms have responded )

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My boyfriend and I have a 12m old son, and my bf has a 23m old daughter from a previous relationship. (His ex left him right after getting pregnant and we started dating soon after.) I'm at my wits end with this child! She's spoiled and a little bully to my son. She's always swiping whatever he has in his hands, running to beat him and even spreading out her arms to block him from anything he tries to get to, pushing him off stuff to climb on it herself (last week she actually flipped him over the side rail of a bouncey horse onto his head!), smacking his head/face, pushing him down, kicking him, and constantly shaking her finger in his face saying "Stop baby" or "no baby" when he's not even doing anything wrong. One day she even got right in his face and HISSED at him...all he'd done was walk up to her and smile. THAT creeped me out!! I'm not saying my son never steals a toy or swats his hand at her, but it's rare and I always tell him no (and the swatting is normal motor development for his age, but I still try to teach him not to). Sometimes she'll just stand across the room glaring angrily at my son or me, or even the dog. At first I thought this was all just normal sibling jealousy issues, but I don't think so anymore because it's not just "here and there" like most kids--it's constant ALL day long when she's here, every time I turn around (and also because of the constant glaring)! Plus my bf's sister in law told me she sees the same behavior when his daughter is around her daughter. And she behaved the same toward a couple other kids visiting here one day. She also has a sister, so she's not an only child and just used to having all the attention. And until this past May she hadn't seen my bf since she was about 8mos old (because of the ex) and my son was born by then so I'm sure she doesn't have any memory of having my bf all to herself. I've also taken videos with my phone and showed it to other people with kids to see if I'm overreacting, because let's face it, I'm still pretty new to the mom thing and my son isn't at that stage yet, but every one of them was appalled by her behavior and telling me she NEEDS to be corrected. 



My bf doesn't see as much of her behaviors because he doesn't pay as much attention as me, and she's very quiet and sneaky about it. Usually when she hits or pushes my son I'll see her watching my bf to make sure he isn't looking. And when I tell him, he doesn't believe me. But there ARE many times when I know he saw and just pretends not to because he feels bad punishing her. (He put her in time out for a couple minutes ONE time and she screamed like she was dying the whole time and continued for about 10 minutes after, and he hasn't punished her since.) Occassionally he'll gently tell her to play nice, but that's it. And I've come to the point of saying "be nice" or "give it back" more sternly if he's out of the room. My bf has told me if I have a problem with her, tell him so he can do something about it, but it happens so frequently that he started getting annoyed with ME for telling him. So he told me to quit telling him and instead just punish her myself, which I clearly told him I don't feel comfortable doing. It's too soon since she started coming back, we don't even have a parent/child relationship established yet. Plus, his ex already attacks me for any little thing HE does that she doesn't like. And she's accused me of mistreating their daughter...all because my bf saw them in a store and didn't walk over and say hi, because he hates his ex and didnt want to have to talk to HER. She said she was up all night worrying that her child is being mistreated because he's just a "zombie who follows me doing whatever I dictate" and supposedly I "wouldn't let" him say hi (Blamed me, yet, I wasn't even with him when he dodged her, and didn't know about it til afterward!) But if she's already making up reasons to accuse me of mistreatment I'm sure as hell not going to be the one here administering punishment. The few times I have scolded her in front of my bf (and I don't even raise my voice, I'm just very firm), he always gets really defensive and says I'm being too mean to her! He says kids just do those things and there's nothing he can do about it, but he has no problem yelling at our 12mo old for every little thing, normal things babies do. He says he can't yell at his daughter like that "because she's a girl." He also says there's no point in punishing her since our son is so good natured that he just walks away like nothing happened. But isn't her behavior still wrong whether it bothers my son or not? And it WILL bother him soon, so I feel she needs to be taught before it gets to the point of him defending himself and clocking her in the face or something. And as his mommy, I'm not going to just sit by and let him get pushed around like that! He's just a baby! I've started taking him to play in a different room when it gets really bad, but now because of that my bf has accused me of creating a separation in our family. I've explained why and he just insists she's not doing stuff as often as I say...but it's not like I'm making it up, every time I tell him what she does, I'm referring to a specific instance, not just saying "sometimes" she does this or that, so it IS as often as I say. It doesn't help that he AND his whole family have shown favortism toward her all along, in many other obvious ways, so I'm already kind of resentful about that, and now she's being allowed to bully my baby on top of that?? 



I really don't believe he's TRYING to be unfair, he's just been brainwashed by his ex. He's shown me texts from her very literally telling him he better put his daughter above of our son, that she needs to always come first, and that she wants to make sure her daughter is being "treated like the perfect angel she is because she deserves no less." And whenever his ex bashes me she tries to make it sound like it's about their daughter, telling him she's not really bad-mouthing me she's just concerned for her daughters well-being...I've never done anything to hurt her child or anyone else's or even give the impression that I would! Besides that, she doesn't even know me so she has NO basis for thinking I'd mistreat anyone, so really she's just USING her kid as an excuse to bitch about me for stuff that has nothing to do with me. And when she wants my bf to do ridiculous stuff for HER she always makes it sound like that's for his daughter too, and guilts him by saying things like "your poor daughter needs this" or "you need to do this for your poor daughter."  His daughter doesn't really need any of the stuff she demands. (His ex is fully supported by her dad and is very well off, on top of her two child support checks. We've seen very clearly that his daughter is lacking for nothing, and he IS fulfilling his responsibility!) When she doesn't get her way she makes comments that he's not there for his daughter, that his daughter would be better off without him in her life, and spreads rumors that he's a deadbeat, alcoholic, druggie and does nothing for her (none of which is truth). So I really think he's just trying to go SO far the other way to prove he's a good dad, and he doesn't seem to get that he can never do enough to make it stop because it's not really about HIM, it's about manipulation and control. And I'm afraid once my son is old enough to see the difference in treatment he's going to resent his dad and hate his sister. Bio mom can be as big a bitch as she wants, neither my bf or I can stand her so she's got nothing to lose, but his daughter is going to have to be a part of THIS family too and she's still young enough to be taught right. But I feel it needs to start now, before the tension and resentment builds. I've tried talking to my bf about all of this and he just denies that any of it is going on, and now whenever I call him out on specific instances of favoring her or letting her get away with being naughty, he gets pissed off and says he's not getting into it and changes the subject. I really don't know what to do because it's already gotten progressively worse in just a few months time and now I'm preg with another boy (another huge surprise) so I have a feeling he's going to treat his daughter even more special and let her get away with more being the ONLY girl, and I cannot deal with this for the next 16 years of visitations...before she was born I always envisioned us all being a happy family. We are pretty new to this whole blended family thing, and it's much more complicated than we anticipated, but how can things get better when he refuses to admit there's a problem or even acknowledge my concerns, even when I try to approach it as gently and diplomatically as possible. I've even tried explaining to him why socially it's in HER best interest to learn to behave appropriately. He's agreed with that much...but nothing changes. I'd really appreciate any advice or feedback.

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Anna - posted on 10/26/2010

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lindsays got it spot on! but if you want to take SD anywhere or to see anyone make sure your boyfriend knows about it. that way you have permission from atleast 1 parent, i cant stress it enough!!!!

when my SD came to stay (actually her mum kicked her out) we had her for a week and every day i took her to school. after that week her mum wanted her back but SD refused to go back. BM accused us of kidnapping her for that whole week, even phoned the school and told them this. how stupid!

so make sure your boyfriend knows about every move you make wth SD. either that or make him do everything with/for her.

Lindsay - posted on 10/22/2010

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I think it's fair. He is acting like a child by not taking the maturity to step up and be responsible for the things he has created. Act like a child = be treated like a child.
Another thing you can do is not cook dinner. Take your son out somewhere to eat, even if it's a picnic at the park. He will HAVE to get up and do something about it.
Also maybe try talk to the BM. Tell her what's going on. I think she might even be pushing the idea into her daughter. Or see a behavioral doctor the day you have her. See what they say, and take the info back to the BM.

MamaTo2 - posted on 10/22/2010

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Thanks for the input. We have talked about him taking his daughter to his mom's house during his visitation, but he always says in anger something like "fine, if you really can't stand her so much then I'll just take her to my mom's!" and I really don't want it to be like that because he'll just tell everyone he can't bring her home because I don't want to be around her, end of story (he's very good at telling people HALF of the story). I also totally agree that if he's not spending quality time with her developing a relationship or even paying any attention, it's pointless to even bring her here every week and I've told him that very bluntly. I actually have talked to him several times about paying more attention, and he'll try and do better but it lasts for a couple hours then he's back in front of the tv. It's a bad habit, and he gets so into whatever he's watching that everything else fades away and he just gets in a lazy rut his whole day off. So maybe I should just start hiding the cable cord on the days he gets her, and maybe then he'll be forced to pay 100% attention for lack of something else to look at. Is that reasonable or would it seem like I'm being controlling and treating him like a child??

Lindsay - posted on 10/22/2010

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Exactly. Even if you leave just for a few days. Small holiday or something. Stay at a friends but don't tell him where. Might make him pull his head in a little more and protect his little man. Cause as we all know girls can be pretty vicious. Lol. And considering he has started this young and nothing is being done by it I expect it to only get worse. And your son doesn't deserve that. Children can get clinical depression too. Its harder to diagnose, but it's happening. And no one wants that. You are doing a great job by not just standing back. But her father really needs to lift his game because neither you, or your son deserve this. One of the rights of a child is to feel safe.

Anna - posted on 10/22/2010

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lindsay has a point, but you have to find the courage to actually do it and mean it.
i walked away from my relationship because BM was harrassing me and hubby wouldnt do anything to prevent it, my daugher was suffering the most. it was very hard to do but it worked and my daughter now has a happy life seeing both her parents.

Lindsay - posted on 10/22/2010

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my opinion is, if HE isnt trying to do anything about your son, he isnt being a good dad. by any standards. theres being there for the kid, and there being there FOR the kid. if you know what i mean. he is putting his daughter ahead of his son. when it should be equal. he needs to pick up his act or i suggest you leave for a few days and make him realise what he is missingout on and what he will miss out on if his daughter keeps going down the road shes on.

Sheila - posted on 10/21/2010

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I would show the video's to your boyfriend. tell him when she is in the house he is paying 100% attention to what she is doing and taking steps to correct it. If he does not want to do that, then he can have his visitation time with her outside of your home. Maybe the grandparents home or something like that. Young children have accidently killed younger siblings because such bulling was not stoped. I was not allowed to spank my step-son, but that did not stop me from disiplining him when he was in our home. I went over rules with my husband, the same rules for our children together, before we had children together and we both enforced them diligently. He was not that young, so it ended up being allowance and paying for bad or disrespectful behavior that did the trick, but correction is different for each child. I wish you luck, and advise disiplining him for his non responsiveness (cook meals you know he doesn't like, things like that) My husband is my best friend and we have always compromised together to find a solution when we didn't completely agree on something so I don't know what advice to give you for him. Know this just because the parents can't live together does not mean the child should not have a relationship with that child, but if he isn't even paying enough attention to her to see the problem he is not bonding with her or developing a relationship with her and there is no need to put your child in danger if he is not going to have a true relationship with her.

MamaTo2 - posted on 10/21/2010

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Wow Amy, that's scary! I am glad at least that my BF's daughter is too little to really hurt my son, and the way things are looking now my son will more than likely catch up or bypass her in size over the next year or two. But I'm already seeing that this whole problem is becoming gradually less hitting and more and more just sheer meanness with her trying to dominate the space and possessions in our home, scolding him for nothing, making mean snobby faces and recently even tattleing...I didn't know that started so young, she's not even 2 yet! My son has a bad habit of drinking from any other kid's cup that's around and we're trying to teach him not to, but I've seen her many times lately handing my son her sippy cup then running to my BF saying in a desperate whiney voice "Uuh! Uuh! Baby cup! Baby cup!" like she's about to cry. Of course my bf scolds my son, but I have no sympathy and just say "then quit giving it to him." Or I'll watch him pick up a book off the floor and she'll go to my bf saying in that same voice "baby, book!" and my bf will ask her "did the baby take that book away from you?" and she says "yes!" Of course I always let my bf know what I saw that he didn't, but he doesnt respond, as if he didn't even hear me. I just waiting to see how this will progress into more complex, manipulative tactics for attention and dominance down the road.

Amy - posted on 10/21/2010

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I have a 16 yr old stepdaughter and a now 20 mnth old daughter and something is a lil weird about her.. seems everytime she is alone with her she gets hurt.....but when shes is around us with the baby she acts all perfect with her.. I even hear her take the baby in with her then do nothing but yell at her about everything she doese.. Im starting to wonder if something intentional is going on.. my daugher has even got knocked out from being put on a swivel chair at 1 and her leaving her alone n she falls off to her falling down stairs off a bed a months old ect.. I do not trst her anymore! and I sometimes get a diff story like the time she fell of bed she saiud that she was sitting up on floor and fell over sideways the boom that was not poss but the almost brocken nose proved more...also weird thing is is this stepdaughter isnt really his kid at all and hasnt been w the mom since she was 5 but he cares for her cause they have another kid together.. jelousy but odd...first my fiancee thought was in my head finally after too many incidents he sees... stop it now

MamaTo2 - posted on 10/20/2010

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I WISH I could video tape them! But we don't have a video camera, and sure can't afford to buy one :(

Corynn - posted on 10/18/2010

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Anna, thank you.. i did forget about the possibility of getting accused of stuff for videotaping SD... so Nicole, as Anna said, let your bf know that you are going to videotape the children one day for a few hours so that you can prove to him that SD is doing what you say she's doing. Set it up before SD comes or while she is in another room so she or your son don't know that it is there, or she will know what's going on and alter her behavior (kids that age are smarter than we all think) and place it somewhere where she can't really see it... kind of like a nanny cam i guess lol please let us know how it all turns out

Anna - posted on 10/18/2010

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blimey! i agree with corynn, atleast you are trying.



a word of warning, if youre videoing the children, especially your SD, in your living room, make sure your boyfriend knows about it. if your BM is anything like mine then she may throw wild accusations around if she hears about it.

if your boyfriend knows, then technically you've got permission from atleast one parent ;-)

sneaky, i know!



its your house, your rules! i think you're right by taking your son out of the room when SD hurts him and BF wont punish her. you're in a no win situation here. take back control and punish SD. if your BF doesnt like it then tell him to punish her. if he wont then you continue to do it.

let her scream and shout on the naughty step for 2 mins, if she moves put her back.



thats a bonus to videoing the children, when you punish them its on video as you doing it in an appropriate way.



i may sound harsh but really im a softie when it comes to my girl and SD. its my hubby caving when BM demands that i get tough with.



good luck with it, x

Corynn - posted on 10/17/2010

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wow... well first thing i would have to say is at least you are trying!! i don't understand why he is not listening to you or believing you... maybe you should put a video camera up somewhere where you and the kids are and video record her doing those things (which i'm sure she'll do) and then later on show your boyfriend... make sure you record for like 5 hours... you can skip through things or just go fast forward at a slow speed and watch the whole thing... he will see that she really is doing everything you say she's doing and he'll stop trying to change the subject... and if he does, then just tell him ur not dealing with this anymore, because it's not fair to you or your son, and it's also not fair to his daughter that she is being taught that this behavior is ok, bcuz it is only going to harm her in the long run... and if he won't do anything about it, then when she is there, tell him ur leaving and go out for a few hours with your son bcuz your not gonna sit there and let his daughter treat your son that way and him letting it happen and not doing anything about it. that just shows that he doesn't really care about either of his kids really... i'm sorry that this is happening... it really is not fair to you or the kids... something needs to be done about it, so start with the videocamera first... let me know if that works or not. good luck