so shocked!!!!

Francesca - posted on 05/27/2009 ( 19 moms have responded )

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I've just been on another forum, and was very shocked that a mother would hit/tap/slap/beat whatever your child. she openly admitted that she was abused when she was younger and think it was fine. she also said she taps her baby girl in the tummy. is it just me or do you women think that wrong as well???

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Katie - posted on 06/02/2009

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I believe in spanking,but RARELY ever have to do with my own kids. However what you are talking about is absolutely unforgiveably wrong. Everybody is correct she needs to be turned into cps. It is unfortunately that the cycle is repeated.

Leaha - posted on 06/01/2009

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This is a very touchy subject, and I believe some of us met on a similar post about smacking... There is never going to be an agreement on this subject. You'll have those that say call childrens services she has a bruise on her arm, she's abused. You'll have those that just turn the other cheek on a child that really IS being abused. My opinion is that if it is OBVIOUS like in the above video that a child is being abused by all means report it. However, if it is someone you don't know, and the child simply has a bruise on them, leave it alone! Think about the child first. Don't get me wrong I totally agree that it is NEVER acceptable to beat your child. However a smack on the bum, and a time out or a smack on the mouth for mouthing back doesn't hurt. You can talk to my child till you're blue in the face and nothing gets through to her. Spanking does nothing either, so I don't do it. But you have to think of the child and their family before you make such a call. I personally try to keep my nose out of other peoples business because of the fact that I've been through it. And it has scared my daughter and has made discipline with her even worse. My daughters father has called childrens services on us 4 times to try and prove abuse. Each time it hurts my daughter even more, to have to go through the investigation, talking to the cops, asking why they want to know if anyone hits her or touches her in her "private places". It's complete Bull Shit, please excuse my language. I don't abuse my daughter, she has ADHD/ADD, and Oppositional Defiance Disorder, and is Bi-Polar. Her father doesn't know how to deal with the defiance, and with the ADHD she acts before she thinks and always has bruises from doing normal stupid kid stuff. Everyone just needs to agree to disagree on this subject...

Heidi - posted on 06/01/2009

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Well any type of abuse is wrong, whether its to a child, spouse or other family members. There is a way to go about dealing with these situations and if you know or think someone is abusing another person whether its a child or an adult you should in fact report it. Nobody should have to go through being abused or watching it happen for that matter.

Kimi - posted on 05/31/2009

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Catrina, thank you for posting the video. I have never heard of anyone abusing a baby before. It's very sad but it is improtant that we are aware so we can all do our part to prevent these types of things from happening. I know there have been times that I have turned a blind eye but never again will I.

Natasha - posted on 05/31/2009

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There are so many different ways to get child's attention without slapping or tapping their behinds. But I do however agree that a light pat on the butt at times needed, and not to get their attention but to end the behavior. Ha, most of the times that does not work with my kids:) So the lady that slapping her child (baby!) on the tummy should be reported to cps and she should not have any business raising the children.

Kim - posted on 05/31/2009

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I believe a tap on the behind or the hand is fine get the kids attention so they know what they did is wrong and other type or smaking anywhere is wrong an total uncalled for there are other ways to discipline a child. This should defenitly be taken up with Childrens Aid. you never know what else maybe happening behind close doors.

Kimi - posted on 05/30/2009

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I think that physically punishing a child only teaches them that violence is ecceptable. If you don't want to hear about your child hitting or biteing another toddler than use hands off disapline techniques only. Even if you feel that it's not abusive to give a little swat just remember that our kids learn by our example. Spanking might be the most convinent thing to do, but for a toddler so is swating a toy from another little kids hand.

Taping on the tummy? Now that just sounds stupid to me and I don't think it would even hurt unless it was obvious abuse.

Sandy - posted on 05/30/2009

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I think alot of people have crazy ideas about what is acceptable and not....for not only children but the elderly....both are so vulnerable to peoples crazy ideas

Catrina - posted on 05/29/2009

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I haven't heard about the belly thing either! It's strange. I've heard of the smacking of the hands, and actually my Dad's mother - my grandma - use to do it to us. But would turn our hands over and smack our palms. After I grew up I asked what the heck the turning of my hand was about - she explained the fear of damaging any veins or tendons on the top of the hand. Very possible. Also something routine in a Hispanic background.

But the tummy thing? Yes very weird and so not needed! The only tummy touching we do is when we hold the boys down to blow on their tummies or tickle them. That almost sounds barbaric - Military type initiation stuff. I've heard of that from friends who went through boot camp etc. NOT ON A CHILD! Geez - craziness

Francesca - posted on 05/29/2009

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i agree beating/smacking/ slapping are different things but what im saying is tapping/slap or what ever on the tummy is wrong. i've actually never heard of anyone doing that to a child for discipline

Sandy - posted on 05/29/2009

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I think there is a huge difference between beating, hitting, smacking, etc. and discipline. I believe in a spank as a last resort and in a calm way. Child abuse though is a whole other thing. The children of the world are everyone responsibility

Francesca - posted on 05/28/2009

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im not judging anyone, but i think its wrong and i would never hit a child in the tummy.

its my opinon. if people said what they thought about baby peter he would proberly be here now. it makes me feel ill when i read these sad stories of children being abused and killed by there parents

Catrina - posted on 05/28/2009

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Bailey --- I disagree strongly with the statement of minding our business vs. reporting abuse or a possibility of it. It's better safe than sorry, and if the CPS finds there is no abuse - another child is safe. If they do find abuse and remove the child - again another child saved. But if it goes unreported - another child could be lost.......





The link here is to a terrible heart breaking story about a little girl name Brianna Lopez who didn't make it to 6 months of age.....the video is graphic but it is a new cast from the local station.....Watch it and tell me again if you think reporting should be left up to the family.....





Again it's a horrible story and heart wrenching. But it's reasons like this that I disagree with your reason of "butting our noses in" --- not to be rude. I'm sure you might feel differently after you see this video....





you need to either copy and past this into the address bar, or put the www in front. Not sure but it would not allow me to post the actual link.



youtube.com/watch?v=pkSN65cJKOE&feature=related

Bailey - posted on 05/28/2009

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dont call cps it is not your place to get invovled. if the family wishes to do so fine but sometimes we need tolet the family take care of things rather then butt our noses in

Bailey - posted on 05/28/2009

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its hard to say what effect it will have on the child. but we cannot judge because parents only are as good as their parents were. if shes on her talking about it maybe she already knows in her heart thats its wrong and is looking for guidence. who knows but alittle tap on the tush is fine. its alot better then reading that she beats the child with a belt. maybe write her and give her some tips.

Catrina - posted on 05/27/2009

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my kids don't respond to spanking. Seriously it hurt me more than them. I've learned that they HATE time outs!! Especially the smaller 2, they will scream and scream if I tell them to go to the corner to do their time outs.



Slapping, heck no! Beating, heck no!



Tapping - I've tapped my boys mouths when they've said something bad. Making sure they understood their mouth was the result of their wrong doing. Not more than a tap, like tapping on the shoulder to say hey to someone....

Whitney - posted on 05/27/2009

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I believe is spankings ( not to hurt them more as awarning) more then corrective actions. I don't believe in over using punishment and I DO NOT believe in actually hurting a child or hitting them any where but there bottom!

Lisa - posted on 05/27/2009

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I agree, a small tap on the bottom may be ok as a last attempt but hitting is definitly abuse and she should know better especially being a child from abuse!!

Jamie - posted on 05/27/2009

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I think its ok to tap the booty when you absolutly have to, but what that lady is talking about is straight up flat out abuse and someone needs to call CPS on her ASAP.