is wondering if there are any parents with a child with a simian line on their hands meaning just the 1 line instead of two at top also called simian crease, proximal transverse palmar crease or single palmar crease?

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User - posted on 09/09/2013

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Both me and my identical twin sister have Simian Lines on our palms. I only have it on my right hand but my sister has it on both hands. I have a 4 week old baby boy and he has the Simian Lines on both palms.

Angel - posted on 07/09/2013

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I believe if you have double Palmer simeon lines.
You are 1 in a million. Very rare but if you have one its like 15% in the world usually on the left hand.
And a male.
They say nether than less you should be very intelligent but can be cold and very emotional at the same time! Go figure .
So train your dragon .
Be very aware of your child and guide him in the best way that fits his intelligent's.

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I have one on my left hand, my wife has one on her right hand. Our son doesn't have any simian lines. I've got 2 degrees, B.Engineering & B.Science (Nuclear Physics), and speak 5 languages, so intelligence seems OK. Certainly nothing wrong with having a simian line.

Ursula - posted on 03/27/2009

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The simian crease is one of the listed signs in Down Syndrome which would imply there's some genetic factor at play. My eldest daughter has a simian crease on one hand and the other hand is 'normal'. When I asked the doctor about it he assured me that many 'normal' people also have it, that it's just more prevalent in certain 'communities' like Down Syndrome. Since then my daughter has finally been diagnosed as Autism Spectrum Disorder (she is now 17 and was diagnosed at 14 after years of battling doctors). I since have had a daughter with Down Syndrome. She's asleep now so I can't go check but I've never laid much stock in the simian crease as a cause for concern on its own but only as 'another marker' to support an issue of concern. I encourage you to take the same stance. If that is the only 'symptom of concern' then don't fret it, if there are other concerns then follow up on them. On it's own it means nothing, it's only WITH other symptoms that it MAY point to a possible genetic diagnosis.

Bilal - posted on 01/22/2014

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I Have it on both of my hands,while my parents don't have even on one side.

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Mama - posted on 06/19/2014

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I have these lines on both hands, my children do not. I am in my 30s and never had any significant problems at all. My parents say the doctor made note of it when I was born but assured them I did not have Downs Syndrome. That was it. I didn't have any of the emotional outbursts (nothing out of the norm anyway). No academic problems, finished college.

I just wanted to share this to reassure parents who may be worried. There's a good chance your child is fine! :)

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I have a 5 year old who has it on both palms. Neither my husband nor I- or any family we are aware I have this. My son does have another disorder PKU - phenylketonuria.

Riddhi - posted on 03/19/2014

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Hi..I am a twin. Me and My sister both have 3 yr old and 2 yr old boys respectiverly. My son and her son both have simian lines on both their hands. While we both sisters do not have simia lines on any hand. However My son is diagnosed with one genetic disorder while her son is perfectly normal. Behavior wise I have noticed that my son gets attach to people very fast and gets detached also very fast, He does all things with his heart so making him do something that he does not like is challenging. My Sisters son is just 2 but speaks like a 4 yr old boy. At this age I think he is very intelligent.

Doc - posted on 03/05/2014

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I have the simian crease on both of my hands.
I've never in my life met anyone else who has it on both hands.

2 of my 3 children have it on one hand. I also have a nephew who has it on one hand.
I once went to a palm reader in New York just for laughs and she freaked out on me and refused to do a reading (and threw my money back at me). That was a bit alarming, but so far I haven't turned into an evil overlord or anything along those lines.

Oh, and there is no history of Down Syndrome in my family.

Cgjheatley - posted on 02/22/2014

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Hi all, My 11 yr old son has two simian lines and no diagnosis. His school had him assessed for 'disorders' last year which turned out to be negative. He has always been academic but quite manipulative, but underneath he has low self confidence. To me he seems absolutely normal, but I find his simian lines most intriguing. I would love to take him to a palmist when he's old enough just to get their opinion.

Tracy - posted on 02/12/2014

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thank you Ed!! I feel the same way about my son... very sensitive to everything (from emotions, sickness/ailments, skin, everything).

Im going to read into all of that... you have given me a new glimmer of hope ♥

Ed - posted on 02/11/2014

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Tracy - my daughter (almost 6) also has twin transverse palmar creases. She too has 'outbursts', which we've since (and through much emotional pain) narrowed down to salicylate sensitivity as well as sensitivity to preservatives and colours esp. yellow and red.

The trigger experience was with Sodium Benzoate - think the worst tantrum you've ever seen, multiply by ten, extend for 4 hours every day and every night over 5 days....

We control all of the above (get a book called 'Fed Up') and give her baths in Epsom salts.

We have a beautiful daughter - and less (if any at all) of the outbursts. As we say 'we got our little girl back'.

So much is diet related and 'twin crease' kids are, in my opinion, more sensitive than others. That said, she is probably more advanced than other kids, and definitley more caring too, but that's for another time.
Best of luck with your boy.

Tracy - posted on 02/11/2014

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My son, who is 7, has double transverse palmar crease. He is very sensitive, loving & creative... however, he also has issues controlling his anger AND his guilt. I'm struggling trying to find ways to help him control his "outbursts"... and giving him positive & constructive attention at the same time.

Has anyone had issues with anger & control with double crease kids (Or being an adult yourself now, issues as a child)? If so... did you ever seek medical help, or medications to help these "outbursts"? They are getting much worse the older he gets... my heart is aching :(

Lula - posted on 01/12/2014

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My son is 17 months old and has palm crease on both of his hands. He has development delay and we just found out that he has an extra chromosome. If your child is developing well, I would not worry.

Lolalila - posted on 11/28/2013

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This is not how we interpret the simian kids where I came from...where I came from simian kids normally come with other signes believed to be extremly special ....that s why most families with same kids keep it secret and tend not to tell people and also keep kids close...sorry did not mean to scare anyone but just wanted to share some facts

Lin - posted on 10/12/2013

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I have a simian line on my dominant hand and I am sure I am fine.. or so I think at 46 years! :)
Think the main thing after much exploring is to know that it is quite unique [approx. 3% of population have this type of line on one or both hands] and that it just means that thoughts in your head have to work together with your emotions from the heart to get through life.
I don't think having the line necessary indicates a developmental problem/issue if that is worrying you.
There is a good website "Jennifer Boyer" you can read up on. She seems to have collated a good summary.

Deanna - posted on 10/09/2013

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My son was born March 2013, he has simian crease on both hands. My husband has it on one hand and his paternal grandfather has it on both also :)

Sarah - posted on 09/28/2013

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My son was born with simian lines on both hands and his doctor was concerned until I pointed out I also have them on both hands. He is only 18 months old but knows 10 signs and knows more words than that. I guess he is still a bit young to measure any form of above average intelligence.

Amber - posted on 08/28/2013

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My 4 year old son has a simian crease on both hands. He also was born with hypotonia which has since gotten better. The doctors first thought he had downs but retracted that statement. He is ambidextrous, seems to be higher than average intelligence. Very creative and emotional. He's not one you want to make angry! We are still thinking about getting genetic testing done, but honestly i love his uniqueness and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Cally Kettley - posted on 08/06/2013

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Wow really! My daughter was also born with this crease ( her dad also) but not her brother! And my daughter is on the autistic spectrum. So interesting.

Bas Van Den - posted on 07/24/2013

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at Angel Swanson, I do not think alot of studies have been conducted about intelligence and simean creases for myself ( i have a two of them ) i am in University, so i suppose you can be intelligent and have them but i'm not sure if there's a higher probability for high intelligence if you have one, two or none.

Angel - posted on 07/09/2013

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We have to talk. More about the normal children are they highly intelligent!
I want to know from the older children with single or bi lateral simeon lines!
Let me know !

Angel - posted on 07/09/2013

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Down syndrome children do not count with the normal simeon line creases.
Down syndrome children have just one line that goes across the hand.
It's not the same.

Angel - posted on 07/09/2013

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Ohh by the way he is a twin.
And his twin has sydney Palmer lines
As well she is perfectly fine!

Angel - posted on 07/09/2013

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My son does he has bilateral simeon lines
And no he is not at all impaired in any way!
He's very smart. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Kari - posted on 05/17/2013

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My daughter is 18 and has a a crease in both hands. My husband (Daughters dad) also has it but only in one hand. I am very curious scientific wise why they have this. All I keep reading is palmist point of view.
I know my daughter is smart and has an amazing personality. But is it the crease medically? I have a son without the crease and he is smart also with an amazing personality. I just want to know why they have this?

Bas Van Den - posted on 04/28/2013

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Hi ( might be abit late )

I'm 17 and i have double full simian creases, im the only one in my family that has them
and i have an IQ of 168 and currently getting my Master of Science (Civil Engineering)

They shouldn't scare parents by saying its an indicator of mental dissorders, there are alot of people with simian creases that are perfectly healthy mentally wise atleast, have to say i have never met someone else with double simian creases/lines. Just wanted to make sure you knew not everyone with these lines have dissabilities.

Bas

Jesse - posted on 04/27/2013

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My son is two and he has a transverse palmar crease on the left hand. The doctor at the hospital noticed it when he was born and said that it is rare in children who do not have a type of syndrome, but assured me that it doesn't always indicate there is a problem. If you are worried about it though, I don't think it would hurt to speak to your doctor.

Yahaira - posted on 02/23/2013

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I have identical twin girls and one has a single crease line in her right hand. She was diagnosed with a double urinary collection system in one kidney. Otherwise she's completely normal. Maybe the line has something to do with it. Maybe it's a sign.

MARGARET - posted on 02/22/2013

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My daughter who is 35 has a palmers crease, her son has one and her daughter 3 months old has one on each hand. I don't think that doctors should jump the gun and say that a baby or child should be labeled with certain traits i believe they should moniter a growth and learning chart to see any developments instead of scaring parents. Just saying,
Nana from florida

Jayne - posted on 12/06/2012

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hi checked my 15 year old boys palm yesterday as he came home and said his friend had one and was tested for downs. my boy is a healthy very bright boy so i know these are only statistics and just one of them things xx

Glenice - posted on 10/31/2012

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Just wanted to say hi to Ursula. I too have a beautiful and "normal" baby son who just happens to have Down Syndrome and he does have the palmar crease. Not all babies with ds have it and alot of ppl with out ds have it too.

Dee La - posted on 09/04/2012

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Thanks Laurie, I wasn't sure it it meant we had a hereditary chromosome issue x

User - posted on 09/03/2012

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Hey Dee



I wouldn't of thought so my dear. If the son you have now seems well & is perceived as normal, then you should have no cause for concern.



My son was also slow on the up take but he is quite normal, he has a few behavioral problems but then he is in puberty. I think it's just a lad thing, you know how men like to do as little as possible.. lol ;)



Do bear in mind however your own age, health & lifestyle, as this will impact greatly on future conceptions.



Hope this helped to appease your thoughts a little. :) x

Dee La - posted on 09/03/2012

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My son has it on both hands. He is 3. He was slow to thrive at birth but now at 3 seems to have caught up. If I have another baby is it likely to have Downs or a chromosome problem.

Miss Laurie Ann - posted on 08/23/2012

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Hi all.. this is fascinating me as I am a 36 year old single mum of four. I have three girls & one son. My son was born with a single Palmer crease on one hand but as he has grown the head & heart lines have connected on the other hand also. I to have a single Palmer crease across both of my palms. I am really glad that another woman has it to. I thought I might be the only one with it on both hands. It is more common in boys than girls.



Only 10% of the population has it on one hand, 5% has it on both hands. It is found mostly in boys & among Asians and Native Americans.



Palmistry says:

If our head & heart lines are joined, this means we think with our hearts.



http://handanalysis.com/simian.html



Science says it's one of two things:

1) It could be down to a defective chromosome, implying some form of syndrome.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_tran...



2) We are descendants of the simians, the "higher primates" familiar to most people: the Old World monkeys and apes, including humans.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian



Religion is telling me that we are in fact the direct descendants of Mary & Jesus:



http://www.billfossworld.com/masters%20o...



That's all I can light on this subject for now, hope you find it of some use..!



Love & Peace.. Lou xx ;)

Carri - posted on 08/26/2011

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So I know I am late in this conversation.. we just found out yesterday that my son (3yo) has a singel Palmar Crease too. we were told it could contribute to the fact that he was diagnose on the Autism Spectrum. they are running a full chromosome panel and a microarray. hopefully we will know if they correlate soon.

Ursula - posted on 06/08/2009

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No it's not a scare factor .. it's seen across the board in Downs and in so-called 'normal' communities. The difference is that the percentage of Downs people that have it is higher than the percentage of 'normal' people that have it. Having it doesn't mean you have Downs Syndrome nor does NOT having it exclude you from having Downs .. it's just one of many signposts that MAY indicate you have a genetic condition SUCH AS Downs. That is why you shouldn't put much stock into whether or not your child has a simian crease if there are no other signs or symptoms of concern.

Jen - posted on 04/02/2009

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yeh i was told the one line on the feet could be a sign of downs syndrome, but my son doesnt have that.  neither do i, so i wonder how they work these theories out.  or is it just another one of those scare factors???

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I havent really had any concerns i know it is related to downs syndrome but know my son hasnt got downs and there is no family history of that at all. I was a little worried bout the things i read relating to simian line but i know my son hasnt anything wrong so far so just getting on with things.No1 i knows children have it so it is nice to hear from parents whose children do.xxx

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Not alot really my son has the 1 simian line on one of his hands i was told when he was 2days old the midwife said nothin to worry bout. I have since seen peadtrician as my son has hole in his heart and the paedtrician says that having the one line can relate to heart problems. I have read up about it on the internet and read on sights that people with these lines tend to lead their lives differently which scared me a bit. Aparantly only 4% of caucasian people have these and tony blair actually has them on both hands.

Jen - posted on 03/25/2009

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Quoting Laura:

is wondering if there are any parents with a child with a simian line on their hands meaning just the 1 line instead of two at top also called simian crease, proximal transverse palmar crease or single palmar crease?




I am a 31 year old mum with 6 kids and I have the lines on my hands that you are talking about.  None of my children have them, but my first born has them on his feet.  The nurses were concerned when they saw them on his feet, but I still have no answers as to why and he is nearly 12.  What have you been told about it???

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