2.5 yr old daughter...failure to thrive...NEED fattening recipies!!!!

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Hi, my 2.5 yr odl daughter, has BEEN skinny, sh'es 24lbs, but overall healthy, have had blood work done and thyroid checked when she was alittle younger. We get alot of "wow, she's soo little, what do you feed her" So, naturally, we do checkups JUST to check her weight and to have her pediatricians keep up with it....to reassure us, nothing is wrong. Until today, ALL 3 of her dr's have said, "she's just going to be little", then today, one of dr's tells me, it's always been considered failure to thrive, maybe it's just me, but it seems liek a HUGE difference in the 2?!?! But, Caitilin is not much for anything dairy, neither am I, but we have tried, carnation breakfast mixes, sippah straws (to help with milk intake, making a game of it), we tried follow up formula, we have tried pediasure, when she was 1 and dr's took her off of it, cuz she refused to drink it, NOW, they are putting her back on it....and i am terrified she won't drink it...and am desperate for ways to hide calories in her foods!! She does get vit supplement vitamin. She's super super active, to the point of never sitting still, so i need all help i can get!!!! If ANYONE is going through similar with their toddlers, please, please, feel free to add me or chat with me about it. Thanks!!

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Jasmin - posted on 11/22/2012

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H Patty, My Name Is Jasmin An My Daughter Is 2 .5 An Was Diagnosed With Failure To Thrive When She Was Almost 1 And Im Having A lot Of Problems Getting Her To Eat And Listen To Me Do You Have Any Suggestions?

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My kids tend to be skinny even though they drank milk with every meal so these are ways I used to help increase the caloric and fun factor to eating. Try avocado smashed up on toast. My kids liked it with basic seasoning (salt, pepper or garlic salt) on buttered toast, bread, crackers etc.. Having snacks on hand all the time. Pre-cut or bite size things, cheese, crackers, nuts. And constantly offer. Things like 3 bites before we get out of the car, 'cause you're 2 with one to grow on. My kids love the granola/fruit bars too and we would carry a stash in the car for in between snacking. I know you don't love cheeses but you could also try something like the laughing cow/cream cheese added to the avocado mixture too. Add heavy cream to your red sauces and make them "pink" sauces for on pastas. Sprinkle parmesan cheese on pasta dishes. Use ranch dressing or sour creme dips with everything veggies, nuggets, potatoes wedges. Tofu breaded and baked or pan toasted with dips are another fun one. Extra firm tofu can be cut into fun shapes too. Dip makes all sorts of things palatable and more fun to eat. Honey mustard also makes an occasional visit to our dip arsenal. Add things like feta and bacon bits to salads or baked potatoes. Again I know you're not big on cheese but grilled cheese sandwiches (sometimes with ham and buttered before grilling) with tomato soup (made with milk instead of water or a dollop of butter to cut the high acidic edge) for dipping in the sandwich. Casseroles with cream of mushroom soup bases are good high octane food ideas that you can add veggies and protein for the one pot wonder kind of meal. Sandwich wraps with a dressing or dip slathered on the tortilla before adding the ingredients. I've used anything from cottage cheese, sour cheese, cream cheese, or plain yogurt with ranch powder mix to anything goes seasoning for dips to add calories. Good luck!

Amy - posted on 05/05/2009

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Hi, I saw the suggestion for homo milk and thought I might share that my 6 year old son, who is not yet 40 lbs, uses half and half instead. It is the easiest way to increase calories and not the quanitiy. Fat is not going to hurt them, so we use half and half, like you use in coffee, for everything we can, cereal, mashed potatoes, puddings. It sounds kinda gross. We also use butter, mayo and oil in his sandwiches and cooking to add extra calories. The hardest part is preparing his food seperate so no one else gets all the extra fats! If she's hungary, let her eat whatever, not junk, but yogurt and cheese, try cheese strings or cookie cutters used in hard cheese to make fun shapes. If you make pudding at home, you can make it with cream, the ones from the store are all fat-free. A little bit of chocolate syrup helped get the milk down. The little bit you need isn't going to hurt them. Good luck!

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MARSHA - posted on 09/06/2012

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Hi I am going throught the same thing myself my daughter who will be 3 soon is just petite and she has stayed on a steady growth on the low end of the chart but my son whom the drs delivered early was growing fine until his last checkup and he had completely dropped off the growth chart well below zero but they dont keep percentages after zero so now we are weighing on a monthly basis, first they thought he may not be producing the growth hormone. And now he has 2 echocardiograms and they have discovered he has an aortic dilation and pfo wich could be causing the failure to thrive. We will now be going to KU med center for pediactric cardiology and have this investigated further. I am not trying to scare you at all just want you to be aware that there may be some questions you might want to ask your pediatrician at your next visit just to make sure something like this is not the cause. Good luck to you and your family .

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Hi I am going throught the same thing myself my daughter who will be 3 soon is just petite and she has stayed on a steady growth on the low end of the chart but my son whom the drs delivered early was growing fine until his last checkup and he had completely dropped off the growth chart well below zero but they dont keep percentages after zero so now we are weighing on a monthly basis, first they thought he may not be producing the growth hormone. And now he has 2 echocardiograms and they have discovered he has an aortic dilation and pfo wich could be causing the failure to thrive. We will now be going to KU med center for pediactric cardiology and have this investigated further. I am not trying to scare you at all just want you to be aware that there may be some questions you might want to ask your pediatrician at your next visit just to make sure something like this is not the cause. Good luck to you and your family .

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flavor her milk and it will help her drink it. some kids are just smaller i think she is fine, just try giving her a few more snacks if your really that worried about it.

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my son is 2 1/2 and weighs 28 lbs, but he is 37 1/2 inches tall so he is really skinny thats not terrable. does your doctor say she is okay, because she sounds like she is fine to me. She might just be smaller boned or a petite child there is nothing wrong with that, my son never had the baby chub that a lot of babies get, but he ate and was healthy and my doc said he was fine.

Krystal - posted on 05/05/2009

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Hi my daughter is 2.5 also. And only about 26 pounds. None of her doctors have said anything about failure to thrive, but I have found recently with my 1 year old, that he's too small for his age, and they were worried about his weight gain. They sent me to a nutritionist, in order to come up with more ways of adding calories, she said, add cheese to whatever you can. It's not the healthiest thing, but if they are eating snacks, I give them a quarter of a PB & J. I also keep in the fridge, where my 2.5 y/o can get it herself, (she feels like a big girl, and also she eats more then, because she picked it) go-gurt, and string cheese. Especially if she doesn't like milk. My mom introduced my daughter to "bunny milk" (Nesquik strawberry milk) I can adjust how much powder we put in it, and therefore lessen the amount if you don't want them having too much of the sugary powder. My son has been harder to get to eat new things. We found that if daddy or I were eating it, he would come begging for it. So, we've started at dinner times or whenever, to not put anything on his tray, and wait for him to ask for ours. Then cutting up some from our plates, and giving it to him. He thinks its the better stuff, and has tended to eat more since mommy and daddy are eating it too. Good luck! Maybe try talking to a nutritionist they can give you some really good ideas! Ours helped immensely. Like giving our son straight juice (V8 fusion fruit & vegetables)(more calories) without watering it down. He's thriving again, and doing above average weight gain. Just by letting him eat a little more to his schedule. Constantly having food available to him.

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I strongly recommend you read either "Child of Mine: Feeding with Love and Good Sense" or "How to Get Your Child to Eat . . . But Not Too Much" by Ellyn Satter. My mother, a registered dietitian, gave me the former when I started feeding my daughter solids. Ellyn is a world recognized expert on the parent-child feeding relationship. She has a bachelors degree in foods and nutrition and a masters in clinical social work.

http://www.amazon.com/Child-Mine-Feeding...

http://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Your-Kid-E...

Lisa - posted on 05/05/2009

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i just wanted to say all the advice on here sounds great x my eldest daughter will be 4 in september and weighs in at nearly 30 lb. she still wears aged 2-3 clothes (apart from a pair of pj's i found in her drawer that fit her perfectly and are aged 18-24mths!) not one doctor or health visitor has ever said she was failing to thrive or even too much underweight! try to add extra calories as mentionned above, but also try not to get too worked up over it all or she'll pick up on it and maybe get fussy!! hope all goes well xx

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OH, sorry, this was asked, (tryign to answer all questions lol), Caiti started army scooting, at 7 months, which we though a huge triumph, cuz she had surgery on both hands at 6 months old. She was walking by 11.5 months and running by 12 months, She was never delayed in any of her milestones, and because her slow pace of growin g on charts...dr's always just said she was small, which we are ok with. Personally, i think the charts are ridiculous, just me though. I understand they are doing their job, but they have all seen Caiti, repeatedly, Caiti was born with a congenital birth defect also, and has had many, many, many dr appts.....so there never was a lack of dr visits at any time since she was born. The only thing, that we have worried about, and requested somone help us with, was her speech, she was late talking ...I can understand her, but not many other people can...We had kinda let her get used to pointing or "knowing" what she wanted, that she never would say the words exactly. With her birth defect (ABS-having only 7 fingers and 5 toes total) we were told she would have problems holding a bottle-she did that at 2 months old. We were told, with no big toe, she would have problems balancing and walking-she army scooted 1 month after her first surgery and was walking and running during her 11 & 12 month. Our biggest problem.....has been finding skinny JEANS!!! LOL, I think Caiti has been able to wear maybe 3 diff pairs of jeans, since she was a baby, that fit her waist....other than that it was jean overalls or elastic pants i could put a stitch in! I can deal with that!! If anyone knows of a good place to find skinny jeans, I would be much appreciative LOL!! Even buying the right length (2t-3t) the waist is way to wide for a belt, without scrunching up everything lol.

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Thanks so much! Between my husband and I reading over the posts we have gotten on here, we have calmed alot!!! We also feel alot better about our parenting abilities, lol, in a quick lack of good moods, i decided it was time to tell wic office this morning, "Considering my daughter has come here since she was born, and her weight has ALWAYS been on the low side, AND, yall are the licensed nutritionists, not me....I think I am hardly the one slacking on my job! We did go back to store this morning, and pick up a few more things, nutella, yobaby yogurts, olive oil, some popcorn butter oil (high is fat content-to hide in some foods), wheat germ (not sure exactly what to do with it (never used it before), ingredients for crab salads, ranch with bacon flavor dressing (caiti loves ranch on anything). Being that Caiti is so active, we have decided all we can do is offer her foods she eats the best, we can try to hide stuff in them, but I can't bring myself to do the "she'll drink it if she's thirsty enough" because, my daughter must be one of many that refuses and means it! Caiti loves salads, of any kind, pasta salads, vegetables, fruits, (she'd prefer a bowl of grapes over reeses anyday-i'm not going to try to change that!) LOL, family jokes she eats better than my 5 yr old nephew, who is a chunk, and we also have a 1 yr old baby girl, who eats so little, and yet, she's my chunk LOL. We tried to get things both girls could eat to make sure both are still eating healthy too. We also talked with Caiti's Homeschool teacher, who comes once a week, and she said, she would speak to anyone she had to, on how active and energetic Caiti is (same teacher who told us, do not let them test her for ADHD, just yet). After researching everything, we are alittle beyond upset at how everythign happened, dr's office, wic office. We just felt like, they had plenty of time, and they got plenty of concern on our behalf, about her weight, before now, they could have told us there concerns way before this point. Sorry for rambling, lol, thanks!!!! Yall can add me on facebook pages! Would love to keep in touch!

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hi patty, i have a 4 yr old and he is only 31 pounds, his dr. says he is going to be just like his mom, i was only 100 pounds in grade 12. i also have a nephew who never ate much and then when he turned 14 he got a growth spurt and coldn't stop him from eating he is now 19 and 6 feet tall and very healthy. don't worry it will happen in time also don't mention it around her, kids have big ears and it might make the problem worse.

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Quoting Patty:



Quoting Melissa:




Quoting Patty:

Thank you so much for all the suggestions!! Been a busy weekend, we went grocery shopping, and I must say, I have never checked into the fat calories so much!!! Don't get me wrong, we have gone for so long, on belief, that Caiti is "just small" and her pediatricians have all said same thing...but we also go to wic office, and they tend to over dramatize the size of a child, and in doing so, they also have the right to report to cps on items they don't know anything about. After them telling me they wanted proof from her dr that she was so small, of course i went straight to her dr, and was told, "just for wic office, so they can't say we are neglecting her as her dr, we have to TRY pediasure again." Caiti was put on pediasure when she was 1 and weighing 14.8lbs. She wouldn't drink it, but then again, she doesn't really do ANY milk products, unless cooked in meals.She is taking enfamil brand calcium vitamin (liquid form). Whiel I want to sit back and say "she's just small", a part of me, wants to make sur eit's not something i am missing!! Caiti is also a patient at Shriner's hospital, and her surgeon had told us awhile back (about 1.5 yrs old) to ask pediatrician to refer us to an endocrinologist...to check for hormonal issues affecting weight, or thyroid problems. Well, pediatricians thought they could do their tests here, so of course, I demanded a referral this time. We did go buy items like, pimento cheese, cottage cheese, pediasure nutripals granola bars for snacks, ritz, some nutella, yobaby yogurts, even decided we would tryt he carnation instant breakfasts again (tried last night, did NOT go over well). Caiti is extremely active, almost to the point, scared to put her down, cuz she takes off!!!! She has a teacher come and work with her once a week, because of her speech (tongue tied at birth)...she was evaluated through school board and we were told she was on a 4 yr old's comprehension level. She is extremely smart and busy, lol..just tiny! Will keep everyone posted on how next appts go!! Thanks again!!!








you said she was14.8 pounds at one, well i looked up the pounds to kilos conversion on the net and it says this is equal to 6.7 kilos. mine is 13 months and now weighs 7.7 kilos. so yes she is bigger but maybe this is because she has had so many people working with her since birth to get her weight up doing things like extra scoops in the formula and 3 hour day and night feeds. did you do this at all wth yours? id be guessing mine would be alot smaller if we had not worked our asses off feeding her shes now on 3 hour feeds during the day then is allowed to sleep 9.30pn-8am (and even that they dont like they want me to now give her an extra feed at 6am)









Yeah, ay about 8 months old, we started adding an extra scoop of formula to bottle, than what directions called for... by then she was crawling, but it held her weight up so Dr's assured us it was nothing, she would just be small.  At her 1 yr Wic appt, *I* specifically asked nurse there, if they wanted us to stop with the extra formula for her, due to her being so small still, and that's when Wic office called dr and dr put her on pediasure.  With no luck in getting her to drink pediasure, we were told, as long as she ate foods cooked with milk, and would eat cheese slices or sticks, that she was ok, and again "just small". Caiti never would drink more than 4 ounces a bottle, but we fed her 4 ounces every 2 hours, until she was  12 months and 1 wk, and we were told it was a good time to take her off bottle since she was eating foods so good.  As for as her growth chart goes, she's growing, just super slowly, we had also been told, at that certain age, she could slow dow gaining and/or lose a bit due to being more active than she had been. 





 



if shes active that most definately makes a difference your right. mine was active always rolling everywhere and always wanting to play and such a happy kid. she still cant pull herself up onto things, and only just started sitting up and doing the commando crawl 3 weeks ago, but she cant stand without support and her feet are not flat when she does and they are turned out rather then in so she really needs lots more practise. but they tell me shes meeting all her milestones just slower so nothing to worry about she will meet them all just slowly, and if yours is improving and growing then i am sure she is ok. the extra scoops didnt do anything for mine either other then making her constipated but its a shame yours wont drink the pedisure. im hoping with mine being on this she will gain more weight now. i do wish you all the best



 

Melissa - posted on 05/04/2009

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If she is healthy than I'd say just keep an eye on her. I've heard of this happening with some children though, I think on Oprah, always good to just make sure to watch that she doesn't stop eating any other foods...

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Hey there, all three of my children were real fatties when they were under 1. But once
they hit 18 mths they were all sooo skinny they looked really sick. But I put it down to
having such a high metabolism that whatever they eat doesn't stick. My oldest son is
now nearly 15 and of average height is still only 38kgs but eats more that me. She will be okay.

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My son is almost the same age and he is about 2 or 3 lbs. heavier. At his 18 month check up the Dr. did not like his weight and suggested that I feed him real butter, breads, cheese (he was not a big cheese eater). He is a very healthy eater and I did not see a need to fatten him up just so he would fit their chart. I believe that as long as the child is eating, has the energy, sleeps well, and is emotionally and mentally healthy why fatten them up for someone elses sake. (I did not follow the drs. advice and he gained weight anyway.)

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Quoting Patty:

Thank you so much for all the suggestions!! Been a busy weekend, we went grocery shopping, and I must say, I have never checked into the fat calories so much!!! Don't get me wrong, we have gone for so long, on belief, that Caiti is "just small" and her pediatricians have all said same thing...but we also go to wic office, and they tend to over dramatize the size of a child, and in doing so, they also have the right to report to cps on items they don't know anything about. After them telling me they wanted proof from her dr that she was so small, of course i went straight to her dr, and was told, "just for wic office, so they can't say we are neglecting her as her dr, we have to TRY pediasure again." Caiti was put on pediasure when she was 1 and weighing 14.8lbs. She wouldn't drink it, but then again, she doesn't really do ANY milk products, unless cooked in meals.She is taking enfamil brand calcium vitamin (liquid form). Whiel I want to sit back and say "she's just small", a part of me, wants to make sur eit's not something i am missing!! Caiti is also a patient at Shriner's hospital, and her surgeon had told us awhile back (about 1.5 yrs old) to ask pediatrician to refer us to an endocrinologist...to check for hormonal issues affecting weight, or thyroid problems. Well, pediatricians thought they could do their tests here, so of course, I demanded a referral this time. We did go buy items like, pimento cheese, cottage cheese, pediasure nutripals granola bars for snacks, ritz, some nutella, yobaby yogurts, even decided we would tryt he carnation instant breakfasts again (tried last night, did NOT go over well). Caiti is extremely active, almost to the point, scared to put her down, cuz she takes off!!!! She has a teacher come and work with her once a week, because of her speech (tongue tied at birth)...she was evaluated through school board and we were told she was on a 4 yr old's comprehension level. She is extremely smart and busy, lol..just tiny! Will keep everyone posted on how next appts go!! Thanks again!!!





 






you said she was14.8 pounds at one, well i looked up the pounds to kilos conversion on the net and it says this is equal to 6.7 kilos. mine is 13 months and now weighs 7.7 kilos. so yes she is bigger but maybe this is because she has had so many people working with her since birth to get her weight up doing things like extra scoops in the formula and 3 hour day and night feeds. did you do this at all wth yours? id be guessing mine would be alot smaller if we had not worked our asses off feeding her shes now on 3 hour feeds during the day then is allowed to sleep 9.30pn-8am (and even that they dont like they want me to now give her an extra feed at 6am)





Yeah, ay about 8 months old, we started adding an extra scoop of formula to bottle, than what directions called for... by then she was crawling, but it held her weight up so Dr's assured us it was nothing, she would just be small.  At her 1 yr Wic appt, *I* specifically asked nurse there, if they wanted us to stop with the extra formula for her, due to her being so small still, and that's when Wic office called dr and dr put her on pediasure.  With no luck in getting her to drink pediasure, we were told, as long as she ate foods cooked with milk, and would eat cheese slices or sticks, that she was ok, and again "just small". Caiti never would drink more than 4 ounces a bottle, but we fed her 4 ounces every 2 hours, until she was  12 months and 1 wk, and we were told it was a good time to take her off bottle since she was eating foods so good.  As for as her growth chart goes, she's growing, just super slowly, we had also been told, at that certain age, she could slow dow gaining and/or lose a bit due to being more active than she had been. 

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Quoting Patty:

Thank you so much for all the suggestions!! Been a busy weekend, we went grocery shopping, and I must say, I have never checked into the fat calories so much!!! Don't get me wrong, we have gone for so long, on belief, that Caiti is "just small" and her pediatricians have all said same thing...but we also go to wic office, and they tend to over dramatize the size of a child, and in doing so, they also have the right to report to cps on items they don't know anything about. After them telling me they wanted proof from her dr that she was so small, of course i went straight to her dr, and was told, "just for wic office, so they can't say we are neglecting her as her dr, we have to TRY pediasure again." Caiti was put on pediasure when she was 1 and weighing 14.8lbs. She wouldn't drink it, but then again, she doesn't really do ANY milk products, unless cooked in meals.She is taking enfamil brand calcium vitamin (liquid form). Whiel I want to sit back and say "she's just small", a part of me, wants to make sur eit's not something i am missing!! Caiti is also a patient at Shriner's hospital, and her surgeon had told us awhile back (about 1.5 yrs old) to ask pediatrician to refer us to an endocrinologist...to check for hormonal issues affecting weight, or thyroid problems. Well, pediatricians thought they could do their tests here, so of course, I demanded a referral this time. We did go buy items like, pimento cheese, cottage cheese, pediasure nutripals granola bars for snacks, ritz, some nutella, yobaby yogurts, even decided we would tryt he carnation instant breakfasts again (tried last night, did NOT go over well). Caiti is extremely active, almost to the point, scared to put her down, cuz she takes off!!!! She has a teacher come and work with her once a week, because of her speech (tongue tied at birth)...she was evaluated through school board and we were told she was on a 4 yr old's comprehension level. She is extremely smart and busy, lol..just tiny! Will keep everyone posted on how next appts go!! Thanks again!!!



YEAH Got to love WIC! I was told Riley was underweight for her age and they asked if I was feeding her.  I told them that she eats all the time. She has a high metabolism. My oldest is also thin and she is the one that scares me because she doesn't eat a lot.   She is 7 and weighs about 45lbs and Riley is 4 1/2 and weighs about 35lbs. There is only 5 inches in height difference between them, but they are both on the tall side.



 



Try hiding things in foods she likes. I also have put flax seed in the cookies too. My only other advice is be careful when adding things like gravy and such...you don't want to get her so used to eating it that she won't eat the food without it. It is better to hide things so that she can't taste it then if she does start to gain weight you don't have to worry about it on the other end of being overweight.



 



For some reason kids like McDonald's chicken nuggets and maybe adding some fried food -which really isn't great for them but in moderation might help her gain weight.



 



Good luck!

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Both of my girls are super skinny-first don't make a big deal out of it it only makes them more resistant. Second if you know she is eating and is active don't stress. If she isn't active and is laying around a lot then I would worry about failure to thrive. Plus kids go through periods when they don't eat a lot. My youngest Riley is considered underweight for her age and trust me all she does is eat. Your daughter probably just has a great metabolism.



But if you want to hide calories and things that are good for her try adding extras into things like baked goods. I have hidden things in choc. chip cookies and my kids and everyone else has no idea.



I also have an amazing cookie recipe that has oatmeal, choc. chips, and coconut in them that I could send to you. I also hide ground up garbonzo beans in them- this adds some protein to them. If you put them through a food processor and make them into a paste -pretty much a humus consistency and add them in NOONE will know the difference until you tell them.



Good luck and get rid of the doctor who told you failure to thrive! I am going to be a Doctor of Physical Therapy in a year, and you only give that term to someone who is lethargic, won't eat, won't do anything and is pretty much dying- AND IF your daughter is as active as you say she is don't worry!

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Quoting Patty:

Thank you so much for all the suggestions!! Been a busy weekend, we went grocery shopping, and I must say, I have never checked into the fat calories so much!!! Don't get me wrong, we have gone for so long, on belief, that Caiti is "just small" and her pediatricians have all said same thing...but we also go to wic office, and they tend to over dramatize the size of a child, and in doing so, they also have the right to report to cps on items they don't know anything about. After them telling me they wanted proof from her dr that she was so small, of course i went straight to her dr, and was told, "just for wic office, so they can't say we are neglecting her as her dr, we have to TRY pediasure again." Caiti was put on pediasure when she was 1 and weighing 14.8lbs. She wouldn't drink it, but then again, she doesn't really do ANY milk products, unless cooked in meals.She is taking enfamil brand calcium vitamin (liquid form). Whiel I want to sit back and say "she's just small", a part of me, wants to make sur eit's not something i am missing!! Caiti is also a patient at Shriner's hospital, and her surgeon had told us awhile back (about 1.5 yrs old) to ask pediatrician to refer us to an endocrinologist...to check for hormonal issues affecting weight, or thyroid problems. Well, pediatricians thought they could do their tests here, so of course, I demanded a referral this time. We did go buy items like, pimento cheese, cottage cheese, pediasure nutripals granola bars for snacks, ritz, some nutella, yobaby yogurts, even decided we would tryt he carnation instant breakfasts again (tried last night, did NOT go over well). Caiti is extremely active, almost to the point, scared to put her down, cuz she takes off!!!! She has a teacher come and work with her once a week, because of her speech (tongue tied at birth)...she was evaluated through school board and we were told she was on a 4 yr old's comprehension level. She is extremely smart and busy, lol..just tiny! Will keep everyone posted on how next appts go!! Thanks again!!!


 



you said she was14.8 pounds at one, well i looked up the pounds to kilos conversion on the net and it says this is equal to 6.7 kilos. mine is 13 months and now weighs 7.7 kilos. so yes she is bigger but maybe this is because she has had so many people working with her since birth to get her weight up doing things like extra scoops in the formula and 3 hour day and night feeds. did you do this at all wth yours? id be guessing mine would be alot smaller if we had not worked our asses off feeding her shes now on 3 hour feeds during the day then is allowed to sleep 9.30pn-8am (and even that they dont like they want me to now give her an extra feed at 6am)

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this worked for my son who is almost 2 and very small due to extreme prematurity...now don't freak out, my pediatrician said it was ok to feed this to him....Make cream of wheat according to the directions, but use milk instead of water...then add 1-2 tablespoons REAL butter, 2 tablespoons of brown sugar and 2 of white sugar....the kids love it and it'll give em dimple butts in no time!!! Just make sure to brush teeth afterwards to prevent cavities!!!

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I have always been little and had the same thing when i was young and still do. I hated it when i was little and always liked being different, im still the same today. I do have a thyroid condition but i have hypothyroidism so in fact i shouldnt be thin at all. If your daughter is just small then that is just the way she is meant to be. I know my parents were only trying to do the best for me but as an adult now i feel like i have spent most of my childhood being proded and poked in order for someone to find something wrong with me when infact they never found that i had a thyroid condition until i was 21 ! good luck

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My son is 6 and is 32 pounds 28 inches - diagnosed with failure to thrive at 18 mos. Make grilled cheese sandwiches by making french toast out of the bread first, have her dip any of her fruit in a cream cheese, fruit spread or chocolate pudding. Nestle has a juice box that is packed with good calories and protein - You can find it oun line I believe it is called Breeze - can be expensive. Lots of protein in eggs, cheese and I have added a tsp of olive oil (again good calories) to almost everything edible, dribbled on vegetables, hidden is pasta and brushed onto chicken.

Hope these hints help. Somewhere I have protein shake recipes - you add instant mild (the old fashioned kind) to just about any kind of shake or smoothie - the good thing is you can't even taste it and it adds a ton of calories.

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There is a shake call Scandishake. The pharmacy can get it for you. I don't remember if you need a perscirption for it or not. Also you might check out the following site www.nowleap.com A specialist did a blood test on my daughter. Found out she has multi algeries to foods. She is now gaining weight, not sick all the time anymore either.

Hope this helps.

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My Daughters are finicky eaters and I don't feel like they eat enough, but the docs say they are healthy and growing just fine. Just be patient and always introduce new foods to her, she will be okay. My daughter is 3 and only weighs 30 pounds and my 2 yr old is small too, don't stress she'll be fine. Just be patient and give her what she wants, as long as it isn't packed with sugar. My girls also are a little weird in that all they really like is veggies, but the 3 yr old is getting a little better. Good luck

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I had the same problem with my son, failure to thrive although he was healthy. Our doctor said it wasn't serious (like some of those awful things you hear about) just that he was smaller than most and low on the growth scale. We were told to put gravy or butter on all his food. I know you said your daughter doesn't like dairy, but does she like ice cream? We were also told to give him a milk shake using the carnation instant breakfast mix before bed every night. And don't stress too much, just because she is small now doesn't mean she will always be. My son is now 7 and has almost caught up with his friends in size. Good luck!

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Hi Patty, I hide guacamole in spagetti sauce, hamburgers, you can also blend veggies up and hide them in sauces... I also hide it in the mac and cheese. Some other "good" fats are salmon or fish oils, olives/olive oil. We have to give my son extra calories and that has been the best way as he's allergic to milk. Also, pastas, oatmeal, basically starchrs. I hope this helps! =)

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Thank you so much for all the suggestions!! Been a busy weekend, we went grocery shopping, and I must say, I have never checked into the fat calories so much!!! Don't get me wrong, we have gone for so long, on belief, that Caiti is "just small" and her pediatricians have all said same thing...but we also go to wic office, and they tend to over dramatize the size of a child, and in doing so, they also have the right to report to cps on items they don't know anything about. After them telling me they wanted proof from her dr that she was so small, of course i went straight to her dr, and was told, "just for wic office, so they can't say we are neglecting her as her dr, we have to TRY pediasure again." Caiti was put on pediasure when she was 1 and weighing 14.8lbs. She wouldn't drink it, but then again, she doesn't really do ANY milk products, unless cooked in meals.She is taking enfamil brand calcium vitamin (liquid form). Whiel I want to sit back and say "she's just small", a part of me, wants to make sur eit's not something i am missing!! Caiti is also a patient at Shriner's hospital, and her surgeon had told us awhile back (about 1.5 yrs old) to ask pediatrician to refer us to an endocrinologist...to check for hormonal issues affecting weight, or thyroid problems. Well, pediatricians thought they could do their tests here, so of course, I demanded a referral this time. We did go buy items like, pimento cheese, cottage cheese, pediasure nutripals granola bars for snacks, ritz, some nutella, yobaby yogurts, even decided we would tryt he carnation instant breakfasts again (tried last night, did NOT go over well). Caiti is extremely active, almost to the point, scared to put her down, cuz she takes off!!!! She has a teacher come and work with her once a week, because of her speech (tongue tied at birth)...she was evaluated through school board and we were told she was on a 4 yr old's comprehension level. She is extremely smart and busy, lol..just tiny! Will keep everyone posted on how next appts go!! Thanks again!!!

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Hi Patty. My third child is almost 14 months old and not quite 20 lbs. They say that between 1 and 2 years of age the average child will only gain 3-5 pounds...so I'll probably be where you are about a year from now. I read through all the posts and like some of the suggestions...but worry about what I would be setting her up for later in life as far as her eating habits. It's hard not to worry about how much or how little she is eating...but I have noticed that the more I try to get her to eat, the less she eats--it has become a game of "let's see what I can get Mommy to do today." One of the foods I can usually get her to eat is hashbrowns. Potatoes cooked in oil...that's got to add weight, right?

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My son has food allergies. He's skinny--well at least to me. He's allergic to many common food items-corn, wheat, milk, eggs, peanuts/nuts, seafood. We've only eliminated nuts and seafood, because he takes the others pretty well. Has there been any discussion around that topic?

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Hi! My youngest daughter is 4years old and just barely 30 lbs. We went through all the testing when she was one and then again just recently because the drs. were SO sure that something was wrong with her. The best advice I have ever gotten from someone was my oldest son's ped., she said< "Is your baby eating at all? Getting any kind of calories? Does your baby eat?" Yes to all those questions then don't worry. Some children just eat slower, have a smaller intake of food.
As my opinion (and that's exactly what it is, an opinion) try foods with a high percentage of fat calories like avocados, walnuts, cheese, and as for breakfast my daughter LOVES the instant breakfasts, ya know by Carnation. Her favorite is the strawberry. I make them into smoothies. Also does she like peanut butter? Try peanut butter malts.Little things like that have always helped my daughter, who by the way is just small, which I already knew :o)
Hope it helps
Marsha

Celia - posted on 05/02/2009

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My daughter is about the same age/weight. Very healthy, just tiny. Have you tried putting butter in her foods, and/or does she eat peanut butter. It may not sound healthy, but the butter will help nutrient absorption, and the pb at least has fat and protien. And, are the dr's sure she is not anaemic?

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Both my kids were normal size born, but are rather skinny and petite, never fitting into clothes for kids their age. My daughter's nearly 10 and still in size 8, but only for leg length, pants fall off her. If she's generally healthy and hitting milestones, don't panic. If you're really worried about what one doctor said, get a second opinion or book in to see a paediatrician and make sure. As long as shes eating normally and activity is normal, you shouldn't panic. Use your common sense and trust your abilities as her parent.

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My son was the same way. He weighed like 24 pounds for about two years. He is now about to turn 5 and weighs 36 pounds. My doctor told me the same thing as the other suggestions. Whole milk has worked well. He isn't a picky eater, it is the quantity of food that he has a problem with. He is just a little guy. I was worried about it for a long time. I talked to my husband's mother and she said he was the same way. It could just be genetics.

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My daughter is 4 and just at 30lbs and everyone thinks she is 2 or 3 just because of her size. As long as she is active and energetic, I wouldn't put so much worry into it. Make sure the food she is getting is nutricious(Hard with a picky eater,I know!) and as long as she is eating some. We go days when it seems like all Madeline eats at a meal is two to three bites and that's me making her eat it. I would get worried if the energy slowed down but beyond that I wouldn't worry too much!

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I wouldn't worry about it. My 2.5 yr old is only 28 lbs and is almost as tall as her 4 yr old sister. My family dr isn't concerned at all and either am I. He just tells me that she'll be tall and slim.

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My youngest daughter is on the lean side and has always been in the past not a big eater. I wouldnt worry too much about her weight. I would though encourage her to do some exercise, such as running around the park, riding a tricycle etc and when she is older join an Athletics club. This will encourage her to build an appetite, but I wouldnt feed her fatty food, this is setting her up to a bad diet for the rest of her adult life, full of salt etc. What she may need is carbs, but you should get her assessed by a nutritionist or dietitian and an Exercise Scientist if needed. She may have a fast metabolism, by the sounds of her superactive ways (like my daughter), (hence the athletics would be great when she old enough to join). She seems to have an ectomorph body type:, Ectomorphs contain very low body fat percentage

They have ultra fast metabolism

Thin, lean and very linear-type appearance and physique

Stays slim easily

They have narrow waist, hips and shoulders

low and lean muscle weight

Lack shape



so she may be destined to be great in sports, by the way, my youngest has just turned 12 and is a state champion cross country runner, walker, and does lifesaving, still lean but muscly and she eats a lot. So feed her often but healthily. Hope this helps.

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My son - now 10 used to survive on half and apple and a bowl of oat & bran flakes when he was little (and milk) he was as skinny as you like. He just doesn't like fattening things and even when faced with a dinner now he chooses the salad and meat but eats very little carbs. He has always been full of energy. My Health Visitor told me (when I was worried about him aged 2-2.5) that as long as he is running around a lot and sleeping well then he is getting just what he needs. Don't worry about it. Just be grateful that she knows when to stop eating or how much/little she needs!

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My five year old was the same exact way. One thing that will help and your child should like is ice cream. Also, and my pediatrician actully approved this for my little by, is to use real butter on things for your child. It is actully better for a person than margarine. One of the best snacks to let them eat is just plain old saltine crackers. Crackers will add weight but is still good for you. One other thing is just simply grilled cheese sandwiches. Make sure you use real cheese and not low fat. I don't know if these will help. But they helped my boy. He has put on weight and has gotten up to his ideal weight without being overweight.

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Hey! I am in the same boat my 2 y/o son is just 20 pounds, they at first were not concerned because he grew heightwise, but hasn't gained weight since he was 11 months old! he is on pediasure twice a day plus a multivitamim w/iron because he refuses to eat meats. I like Cliff kids bar they are high in calories but made with all natural healthy ingrediants, he thinks they are cookies. also try smoothies during the summertime. Also use olive oil in your cooking (like with pastas) it adds extra fat, but healthier

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Hey patty. Try making milk smoothies. In your blender mix bananas and milk with some ice. My daughter loves it and it's very nutritional. Be creative and mix it with other fresh fruits. Bananas are great because theyhave a lot of calories but are leaded with nutritional values!

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the tv thing works! i sneak spoon fulls into mines mouth when she turns to see the tv. i dont know what id do without it!

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lol i know its hard and i totally agree with regards to the comment about it being easy for them to say it on here about a child they have never even met. mine is still 13 months but will not really eat she chews it and spits and refuses to spoon feed unless she does it herself . i had someone try and tell me what causes my baby;s problems and everything when they actually didnt know anything about her particular situation except from something they had looked at on the internet.

Amie - posted on 05/01/2009

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The hardest problem I have is that my daughter will quit eating as soon as the pang of hunger subsides... she eats enough to be subdued but not enough to be full... I even tried salad dressing on vegetables (worked for me when I was a kid)... and what works one day may not work the next. makes grocery shopping hard, haha!!!



it's easy for other people to tell you that you are doing something wrong because it's not their child's health being taken into consideration. making your child eat, I think, is actually quite normal. active children would rather be playing than sitting there eating. it gets boring...



I also let my daughter watch TV when I feed her... sometimes it helps to keep her in one place long enough to eat a few bites... haha

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i had the same thing as Amie they told me she can eat whatever she likes including very fattening foods for weight gain. When i explain this to people and the whole force feeding thing some idiots tell me im abusive

Amie - posted on 05/01/2009

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I had/have the same problem... thankfully, my daughter loves both the chocolate and strawberry flavors of pediasure... her doctor even told me to feed her anything she wants whenever she wants it, just so she would gain weight. she is 26 months, extremely active (was walking at 9 months), and hates eating because she gets bored. I literally have to chase her around the house and pin her down to get her to eat ONE bite, haha!!! but if you google fun recipes for kids, you might find a lot of food that is fun to make, look at, and eat... good luck!!! sorry I am not much help, but I was hoping it might be comforting to know that your child isn't the only one, so there probably isn't anything wrong at all with her... if there was, she wouldn't be active, she would be sluggish... hang in there!!!

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So what if she's skinny! Once her health is not suffering. We are all different shapes and sizes despite our lifestyles and what we eat! Just let her eat what she likes (not junk). Make sure you don't make too much of an issue about food. She will sense this and it will make matters worse. Sometimes doctors say things without thinking! Try not to worry and just enjoy your daughter.

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id love to chat! mine is almost 13 months now and started on the pedisure when she turned 1, the people at the chemist comment oh she should be on that formula shes too young and i have to tell them shes 12 months! anyway we get it cheap from the hospital for $4 a month, have u tried all the different flavours? mine is on 3 hour feeds to keep up with the weight gain but she barely eats any food and all her liquids go into her NG tube, so she doesnt have to like the formula she gets it anyway we're lucky that we can keep up the constant feeding without having to worry about her not drinking it. now she is just a bit over 7 kilos (im from australia) and we've got her to this weight form lots of hard work.

try not to let doctors worry you if all the tests have been done our girl has had everything from the endoscpy , two tubes down her nose testing for reflux, a machine attached to her, MRI, blood and urine, well i think all the ones that yours has had and she is healthy too. when I was a baby I was only a little bigger then her but i used to eat properly and was not a baby that threw up, but i stil think it can be just i the genes. did she struggle with her grose motor skills at all?

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my son (who turned 2 yesterday) is very big for his age hes tall and skinny same size as a normal 3 or 4 yr old and he doesnt eat alot at all compared to other kids soi make sure he gets lots of goodness in the little he eats.eggs on wholegrain toast, or even better bacon and eggs :) pasta with philadeplhia cheese mixed through can add ham and brocolli to it.mash potatos and use cream and butter instead of milk, umm just the normal good ol bbq sausages they r good for lil growin 1s , and lots of veges and fruit.aslong as shes gettin her food groups i wouldnt b overly worried.

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