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Patricia - posted on 03/12/2010 ( 15 moms have responded )

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Does anyone else think that it's a little strange that every time our children don't behave the way we would like them to, it's attributed to some kind of "condition", "syndrome", or "disorder"? And to supposedly "prove" the point, people always want to cite the statistics! If a higher percentage of children "suffer" from some sort of "disorder" than do not, then what exactly is the definition of normal? A seven year old who can't sit still for 30 min is not "suffering" from anything but boredom and natural youthful energy! I guess it's too bad they can't all be robots that we can turn on and off at will. Is it possible that the "attention deficit" is on the part of the parent who hasn't the patience or common sense to recognize that "kids will be kids"? All of my babies were born almost completely bald! Does that mean they have a "follicular disorder"? After all, not all babies are born bald. IS THIS NORMAL??

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Iridescent - posted on 03/12/2010

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Along the same lines, I was trained as a nurse that if a person says they have pain, they have pain! This is to be treated as such regardless of what you think as a professional. Yes, there are drug abusers. Yes, there are actual diseases that cause a person to feel pain with no physical ailment, and no, pain medications do not usually help. But there are also real cases where he pain is the first sign of a serious problem and it must be checked into! And it must always be treated. Just because you do not agree with the fact that some people abuse the system, as will be done with ANY system, does not mean it is appropriate to totally eliminate that system and not provide treatment to the majority which DO need help. This is true in EVERY area of health.

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Unfortunately, in the States, schools are given extra money for children who have some kind of diagnosis. Since ADD and ADHD are the easiest to get a diagnosis for, it's spiked the numbers. And the schools, which is the saddest part of all, are pushing for these diagnosis,whether or not the child actually has a problem, just so they can get the money. And, yes, I also feel that there are parents out there who are just too damned lazy to parent. I've met a few of them.

On the flip side, there are kids who legitimately have ADD and ADHD. It's sad that the 'false' cases cast such a dark shadow on the real cases.

Krista - posted on 03/12/2010

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Um, the reason why you hear of more kids being diagnosed with things like ADHD now, as opposed to when we were younger, is because they've developed better screening tools and parents are more aware of the signs of these conditions, leading to earlier detection.



Are there false diagnoses? Possibly. But there ARE kids out there who genuinely do have ADHD, and it's rather insulting for you to imply that their parents have no patience and just want them to be robots.



My nephew was just diagnosed. He's been showing signs of it since he was 6, but my sister was determined that she didn't want him medicated and that he was just being exuberant. It's gotten to the point now where it's blatantly obvious to anybody that something is not right -- he's 10 years old, and has the impulse control of a toddler. It's to the point where even his classmates think that something's wrong with him. It took her a very long time to realize that this wasn't something that she could fix on her own, and that ignoring the problem was only hurting her son. She still feels guilty about it. So your implication that she's impatient, lacking common sense, and that she wants my nephew to be a robot? It's incredibly insensitive and insulting.

Sue - posted on 03/14/2010

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Just because some people abuse it, does not mean that all children diagnosed with ADHD are not affected. It is this type of thinking that kept my husband and brother from reaching their potential as kids. My son has ADHD and i have run across many people such as yourself who do not believe in the school system. These people have told me that I am a bad mother, etc. You have no idea what I have been through with this child and what I have done for him. It is easy to be ignorant to a problem
, when your child is not affectedl.

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You obviously have nothing better to do than go in to blogs that dont concern you and make ignorant comments! Go to the bald baby blog and quit being judgemental!

Dree - posted on 03/14/2010

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I to believe that many cases of ADD/ADHD are misdiagnosed. However I am the proud parent of two children. My daughter has ADD and trust me when I say that we know within an hour that she didnt take her meds!! She also has depression which was misdiagnosed for BiPolar just last year. We have since pushed very hard to get the diagnosis removed from her charts!!



My son on the other hand has "disorders" as you put it. ADHD, OCD, ODD, Anxiety, PTSD, BiPolar and Aspergers just to name those that effect him the most. We know within 15 minutes of him waking that he hasnt taken his meds. He has the impulse level of a 2 yr old. The aggression level of somebody that I would swear has killed several people and spent most of their life in jail. He was diagnosed ADHD at age 5. His kindergarden teacher suggested that we get him tested so we did. Sure enough we had 3 therapists that specialized in ADHD come back and tell us that yes he had this condition. We started him on meds right away and noticed a relaxed state come over him within a week. We used to try to take him off it each summer since he didnt have to focus each day with school. We found this to be the worst idea LOL. At age 8 he was diagnosed PTSD from living with abusive relatives for 3yrs. By age 10 we were told that he was BiPolar....again after several therapists tested. By age 12 I finally convinced my partner to have him tested for Aspergers. We each got the questionar and answered honestly. We had a few of his teachers answer it as well. Then a therapist answered it. After that a therapist sat down with my partner and redid it. Then his shrink did it. We all came back with Aspergers. So we took him in and had him tested. Sure enough he had it.



He now goes to a special ed school because he was kicked out of his main stream public school. The principal simply did not want him there...which is fine with me. He went from failing grades to A-B Honer Roll immediatly. He is now in the 9th grade...his old principal at the public school had told us he would never make it to high school. Boy has he proved that idiot wrong!!!!!!!!!!



I too, thank you for explaining your wording farther. When I read your original post I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!! But I gave you matter of doubt and kept reading. Its a good thing I did cause I was ready to lay into you LOL

Iridescent - posted on 03/14/2010

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Thank you so much for explaining further! I do understand that frustration. I know of too many teachers that tell a parent they will get the child to the doctor and start them on meds for ADHD "or else" they will not be allowed to go to school. And the child is JUST a normal, healthy, active child that the teacher has no desire to deal with. I see the same thing from way too many parents that are certain "something" is wrong with their perfect little one, so they push and push for a diagnosis and instead of going through the right testing to be certain, they go to the doctor they know will just diagnose and medicate instead. It's a major problem in society. I can certainly relate to that frustration, and it makes me want to take their children from them, or the teacher retire.

Patricia - posted on 03/14/2010

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Amy, I want to sincerely appologize for my wording. After re-reading my post I can see that it looks like I don't believe that ANY child has any condition (I was having one of those venting days too) but I assure you that's not what I meant at all. It just seems to me that (as in a case that I am very close to) when the principle of a K-12 school calls a parent to the office to suggest that their child be put on "some kind of medication to help him be more calm and attentive", things have gotten out of hand. Unless there is something in the water I just can't imagine that 70% of this schools students are suffering from some sort of attention deficit or hyperactive disorder. I'm no expert but I'm fairly certain that this particular principle isn't either. And I've never seen her medical degree. That's what got me on my soap box and I DO believe that these two "disorders" are commonly misdiagnosed because of people like the one I'm referring to. Please don't think that I somehow don't recognize things like Autism. It's not the same thing at all. Again I appologize if my first post seemed insensitive.

Iridescent - posted on 03/12/2010

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Thank you Katherine. I realize I vented a bit hard there; it's really a rough day today, combined with a tender subject. I hope the meaning I intended did get through though.

Katherine - posted on 03/12/2010

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Oh Amy, that's terrible. Obviously you have genuine issues with your children. I have to say that 'normal' is not a word in my vocabulary. No one, nothing is ever normal.

I don't believe the OP meant to offend. I can see how the wording was a bit off.

Iridescent - posted on 03/12/2010

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Yes, misdiagnosis is frequent in some diseases. This is a huge reason why GOOD doctors and psychologists specialize in the area of ADD/ADHD in children, learn the proper tests and administration, and will not diagnose without a full exam that lasts several hours in most cases total, broken into several sessions, plus a question sheet for the parents, another for day care providers, and a third for teachers involved in their care. Unfortunately, too many parents push an untrained GP for a diagnosis and drugs because they really don't care, they just want a nice mellow little "robot".

On the other hand, I find it quite insulting that your post was worded in quite the way it is. I realize the frustration. I can relate to it. I have one child that is most certainly autistic, and we went through very stringent testing to make certain there wasn't a misdiagnosis. The treatment has helped him significantly, but there is no cure. But thanks to people with opinions such as yours, I have known people that accuse me of being a bad parent, just pushing for a diagnosis for a disease that doesn't exist, it's just bad parenting. We have another child with a very critical physical disease, and she has a cold right now, which could kill her very easily. In fact, the kids that survive birth tend to die from a cold. I've been told I was imagining things with her, too. Do you think I even speak to those people any more?!? They were totally and completely out of line. Just because something is wrong, doesn't mean it's the parent's choice or fault.

Now that we're on the subject, which diseases do you not believe in treating appropriately and diagnosing?
ADD/ADHD was top on your list.
Autism?
Depression?
Schizophrenia?
Any mental disorder that cannot be proven with sight? Or anything that doesn't fit your definition of normal?

Katherine - posted on 03/12/2010

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I too have to agree. Are there kids who are hyper-active? Yes. My mom was a teacher for 35+ years and they diagnosed more than half of her class ADD. I think sometimes a label is easier than saying, "I don't know what the heck is wrong with your kid." As a psychology major I have strong views about this topic. One is: I am unsure that ADHD,ADD really are that prevalent. It seems everyone I know has a child with one or the other. As with anything, I feel more studies need to be done IMO.

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i totally agree with you. Children have energy and get bored quickly. I HATE how we try to label children with "conditions"

when I was a kid my mother was a stay at home mom, and I always wanted to go to the park, and play. I never wanted to sit and watch T.V. because she stayed at home with me she also had enough energy to take me to the bark so I could burn off steam. i needed to keep busy.
Now that most families have 2 working parents, the kids don't get the same attention from parents, as they used to when only 1 parent had to work.
What I mean is this....Mom and dad go to work, and the kid goes to daycare, where they are inside most of the day...they don't get to use up all the energy outside playing...so when mom and dad come home from work, and pick up the kids..the kids have A LOT of extra energy, and both parents are exhausted from work...so they just want to relax with the kids...But the kids can't sit still and are bouncing with energy so the parents wonder if they have ADHD...NO they just have too much energy that doesn't get used up.

Patricia - posted on 03/12/2010

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Wanda, that is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. In no way do I intend to be "insensitive" or "insulting" and yes, misdiagnosis is not just possible it's COMMON! My point is that it is MY OPINION that too many parents expect kids to be well behaved and attentive all of the time. And when that doesn't happen they want to attribute it to something other than nature.

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