Baby not sleeping- What books do you recomend?

Leanne - posted on 01/06/2009 ( 38 moms have responded )

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Has anyone read the books Baby Wise or the No Cry Sleep Solution? Have they helped?

What other books or tips can anyone recomend for getting their baby to sleep through the night? My son is 7 months old and still up every 3 hours and has been for months now. He isnt hungry, there is nothing wrong, he just wants to nurse and then go back to sleep. I was thinking of getting the baby wise book but am not sure if it is one anyone would recomend. Ive heard so many different books to get and I was just wondering about some other moms experiences and recomendations on what worked best for them. Help! Im so tired! Thanks!!

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Catherine - posted on 08/31/2012

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If you google Gary Ezzo, the author of Baby Wise you will see that there are a host of problems with his research and his routines that he recommends from birth. I have 6 children, I am by no means a baby wearing, co-sleeping person. While that works for some, it does not for us.. It is pretty simple. COme up with a good routine at night. Bath, nurse him, then read a book, put him to bed happy and awake. He should be in bed by 8:00 at the latest. A dream feed is never a bad thing, feed him right before you go to bed, even if he is still asleep. He'll still suck and stay asleep. If he wakes after that, go in, check his diaper, sing or whatever you want to do and put him to bed. He will cry and that is OK. If he continues this time don't pick him up, tell him it's ok and leave do this after 5 minutes, then 10 minutes, then 15 etc... You get the idea. You are creating a sleep habit for him. This is when it's easiest to train him to sleep. He needs long stretches of sleep in order to grow, process information and relax his digestive system, as explained by my pediatrician during a visit with my last baby who was also having difficulty sleeping through the night, but he was 9 months. She said that by @ 6 months their bodies must have a digestive break. That is why sleep is so important. It will take less than a week and he will be sleeping for you. This is one of the easiest things you will have to deal with as a mom. While it may seem hard now, especially if you have to hear him cry, raising him will present far greater more emotionally painful lessons than this one. I hope that makes sense.

Velora - posted on 01/10/2009

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I loved the Baby Whisperer books, mainly because I felt that they were geared toward really knowing your child.  I've read just about every book out there on getting your child to sleep (my daughter, now 4, was still not sleeping through the night at nine months).  We tried Healthy Sleep Habits, Baby Wise, etc. -- all the ones that advocate letting the child cry it out.  Problem was, she NEVER stopped crying.  After a particularly harrowing night when we both cried for 45 minutes (her in her crib, me downstairs listening to the monitor), my husband and I both decided that while crying it out might be the answer for some babies, it wasn't for ours, and it definitely wasn't for us as parents.  Baby Whisperer really focused on learning your child's cues and cries, suggested helpful feeding and nap schedules (so important!), and made different recommendations for different baby personalities.  We were able to gently encourage her toward healthy sleep habits and change the sleep props she had become so dependent on  (to which we unknowingly contributed - rocking and nursing to sleep, picking her up when she cried, etc.).  We were much happier all around to have an alternative to crying it out.  And I'm sure she was, too.  Note:  this did take some committment on our part, much longer than the three days recommended by cry it out advocates.  But it was worth it, as crying it out didn't work for us anyway.  :-)

Rebecca - posted on 01/06/2009

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I thought Babywise was garbage for nighttime issues, but I don't like for my baby to cry and cry and cry all night.  Some people think that's OK, though.  If you're OK with crying or if your baby doesn't cry much, then go for it.  Babywise is good, however, for explaining daytime schedules and the importance of naps.  I prefer The No Cry Sleep Solution, but know that it is realistic: it doesn't teach you how to train your baby to sleep through the night in a week. 



 



My baby is also 7 months old, and she wakes up two or three times a night most nights, which is better than when she woke up every hour and a half.  She started sleeping much better when I moved her into my bed.  I know that's not popular, and probably not what you want to hear, but it worked for us.

Stacy - posted on 01/07/2009

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I just offered them a bottle of water instead of nursing.....That might work.

I did like the Healthy sleep habbits book too!

Emily - posted on 01/07/2009

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Hope you had a better night last night.
Whichever book you choose, I think part of it all is learning how to know when your baby is really crying for you, or just fussing. I have learned the difference (sort of - most days) and that helps me feel better about going to him, or, not.
I too feel, as did my pedi, that Healthy Sleep Habits is really the best book out there. Very flex about what you want or try to do. It also goes over a whole range of ages and situations, and is based on sleep science, not feeding. I agree with Kellie on all points she has made!
IT took me until baby was 6 months to really be on a schedule of 2 naps.

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Sandra - posted on 08/31/2012

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Personal opinion don't waste your money on any books, babies are not robots! I read so many books trying to get my little one to sleep, nearly sent myself crazy as nothing worked and I felt like such a failure, I now follow his cues and he is now sleeping 8-7 and taking naps during the day! He will not sleep in his cot during the day, think he like to be close to us, sleeps in a pram and goes into his cot no problem at night, every baby is different with different needs

Meg - posted on 08/24/2011

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Baby Wise is banned in Australia because the techniques it suggests are dangerous to babies.

The No Cry Sleep Solution is WONDERFUL!!!

App+7mnejhu - posted on 01/10/2009

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For my girls who are now 7 and 4, when they were babies...I used whitenoise in their rooms. IT's nothing but a fan that makes a loud noise..for me it helped soothe them to sleep you could try this!

Leanne - posted on 01/10/2009

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Thanks for all the suggestions, Ill look into them and find one that will work for us! Thanks so much and keep them coming!!!

Erin - posted on 01/09/2009

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Quoting Kellie:



Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child by Dr. Marc Weissbluth a sleep expert. Lifesaver.





 



Same here! This book was a lifesaver with my Son (now 2) and am using it with my Daughter (almost 3 months) and she sleeps almost 8 hours at night for the last two weeks! My sister-in-law gave it to me with my first. She used it on all four of her kids ( one set of twins) and swore by it! It is worth the read!

Michaela - posted on 01/07/2009

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I do recommend Healthy sleep habits Happy child as well. it is written in a positive way (when crying out think your baby is learning to smooth down by himself) it helped me a lot.

Eileen - posted on 01/07/2009

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I read a few books when my daughter was younger - I dind't have much luck with the No Cry Sleep Solution and actually felt more stressed trying to keep up with it- which is never good for baby.
I agree with other posts - Healthy sleep habits Happy child. It helped so much.

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The no cry sleep solution is a great one, as well as anything by Dr. Sears. They are little for such a short time, and babies are 24 hour people. I'm grateful for the cuddles even if they are in the middle of the night. I also realize that my son is more restless if he's teething or going through a growth spurt or a developmental milestone (crawling, walking, etc). It always helps to give me perspective when I think, he'll be 8 months old for 30 days, then 9 months old for 30 days, etc. I also think of nighttime nurturing as an investment in his future.Love him up now with attachment parenting, and he will be very secure and independent later when he gets older. It worked for my older son who is very secure and grew into being a great sleeper.

Amanda - posted on 01/07/2009

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The Ferber Method worked for me. I breastfed my son also and I had turned into his pacifier. Ferber stresses that you need to create new sleep associations so that your baby can fall back to sleep on his own. I had been nursing my son to sleep so to break that association with falling asleep I got my husband involved. After my son's bath my husband picked him up and put him in bed awake. Yes my son did cry because who likes change? And even as adults, don't we get upset if we have trouble falling asleep? After two nights he was falling asleep on his own. If he woke up in the night, my husband got up, not me, to offer soothing words and allow my son to fall back to sleep on his own. My guess is that your son is just waking up looking for his pacifier (you) and needs to learn to fall back to sleep on his own. Hearing your baby cry for you is tough but really the best gift you can give him is letting him learn to soothe himself to sleep so he (and you) can get an uninterrupted night of sleep.

Emily - posted on 01/07/2009

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Oh - he could also be getting teeth - my son wakes up a lot when they are coming in.
We give baby motrin and it REALLY helps - and lasts longer than Tyenol.

Leanne - posted on 01/06/2009

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Oh, I thought he needed the 3 naps. Oops! I do wait until he is crying before I go in to get him. Im ok with letting him fuss to get back to sleep but am terrible at letting him cry! Ill give the 2 naps a try and not pick him up when he cries, Ill try the comforting instead. Thanks again, you have all been a great help and we will see how tonight goes!!

Katie - posted on 01/06/2009

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I also swear by Babywise and it works!!!! Its a very easy read and it wonderful. It sounds like you need to try and get him down to 2 naps a day instead of 3, a morning nap 10-12 and an afternoon nap 2-4. Try to let him self soothe back to sleep. Give him a chance before going in to check on him. If he doesn't then comfort him without picking him up and see if that works. :)

Jordana - posted on 01/06/2009

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i read the baby whisperer by tracey hogg and it was great i swear by it! it is a blue and white book if ou follow it it wi.l; workl, my daughter is almost 8 months old now and she has been sleeping from 7:30 pm to 7 am since she was about 2 months old because of the advice given in the book....goodluck

Leanne - posted on 01/06/2009

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Thanks for all the great tips! Just to fill you in, I do have a bedtime routine and I do put my son into his crib awake. He falls asleep on his own (by sucking his thumb) when I put him down for the night and for naps. He wakes up during the night and doesnt go back to sleep on his own. He is on solids and I was talking to the nurse today and am thinking that I need to feed him a bit more of the cereal before bed. He is an ok napper too, taking about 3 naps a day and each at least an hour long. He was sleeping the night and now wont. He was a whopping 20lbs at 6 months so its possible Im just not giving him enough to eat for supper. He also goes to bed early at about 7. Thanks again for all of the help, I will definately look into the books suggested and keep the advice coming!!! Thanks ladies!!

Patty - posted on 01/06/2009

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I had a horrible time with my daughter at about 9-12 months with her waking up at night and not being able to go back to sleep without me, I tried all these things my friends and mom suggested but the thing that worked good and FAST was the Ferber method. The book is called Solve your Childs Sleep Problems and it is by Richard Ferber. It has a lot of good info n it and seriously it only took me 4 nights to stop my nightmare of no sleep, totally worth it!!! Good luck and I hope you get some sleep soon, Patty

Leora - posted on 01/06/2009

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I really hated babywise. The book that saved my life was "The secrets of a Baby whisperer, how to calm connect and communicate with your baby" by Tracy Hogg. It had the same idea as babywise but it is so much more geared toward what kind of child that you have and his/her personality. And she is against the crying it out method.

User - posted on 01/06/2009

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I don't think anyone is suggesting letting your child cry all night long, I did the 5 mins and then held them till they stopped, let them go 10 mins and held them till they stopped crying, etc. There's a difference between letting your child soothe him/herself and letting them just cry for hours on end. I could never do that.  I think the basics are ...does your child know how to go to sleep on his own or are you putting him to sleep somehow? If not, you need to start with a decent routine in terms of napping and getting him to soothe himself to sleep. At that age he should be taking about 2 naps a day and going to bed between 6-7:30. Once you get the napping down and going to sleep the nighttime sleep will fall into place.

Sandra - posted on 01/06/2009

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Anything by Dr. Sears. I would use Babywise as toilet paper - please review www.ezzo.info before subjecting your infant to that. Parenting your child to sleep is the loving thing to do - don't leave them alone until they GIVE UP on anyone caring.



Good luck, Dr. Sears ROCKS!!!

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My aunt sent me The Moms on Call Guide to Basic Baby Care and I've loved it.  My son has been sleeping at least 7 hours at night since about 5 weeks and now at 3 months he's up to almost 10 hours a night.  It's got some great suggestions on helping them sleep and some other really great infomation about everything having to do with babies and it comes with a DVD so you can see some of the techniques they use.  I pray that your baby starts to sleep longer, I'm sure that's rough.

Cheryl - posted on 01/06/2009

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I have used baby wise and it works. As far as I know it is the most effective way to get a baby to start sleeping throught the night. I have 3 and have used it on my last 2 and they both started sleeping throught the night at 2 and 3 months.

User - posted on 01/06/2009

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I swear by the babywise book and so do most of my friends. At seven months it will be hard to start him on the schedule they suggest but you could definatly work into it. If he's waking up at the same time every night he is just waking out of habit. My baby did the same thing. Even though it killed me, I let her cry it out. The first night I started with 5 minutes and then went to soothe her. The next night 10 minutes and so on. The most she cried was for 18 minutes and ever since then has slept through the night. Just make sure you know that he is not sick or hungry when you're letting him cry. Is your baby eating solids yet? That could be something else to try.

Amy - posted on 01/06/2009

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I liked BabyWise and have also read Baby whisperer. I think it is good to read a variety of things and use what works best for you. My son sleeps through the night and did at a young age.

User - posted on 01/06/2009

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I highly recommend, How To Solve Your Childs Sleep Problems by Dr. Ferber. Worked very well for my son. Plus it is not just about getting them to sleep through the night - there is tons of great information all about sleep and additional problems related to sleep and napping. My pediatrican recommended it as well as the Book Baby 411. I hope that helps!

Jacqueline - posted on 01/06/2009

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Sleep Sense is a great book, it takes time to get used to it, but I can really reccomend it!!  It worked for my son...

Ellen - posted on 01/06/2009

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I also forgot to mention, it's still normal for him to get up once or twice at night at 7 months. My son woke up around 4 or 5am until he was about 9 months old. I would feed him and put him back down and he would sleep til 7 am usually.

Jodie - posted on 01/06/2009

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Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child! I can't say enough good things about this. We refer to it as the sleep bible in our house. It was tough to let a 4 month old cry it out, but we only had to do this for 2 nights. The first night was 45 min and the second was 10 minutes. The next night he went to bed awake and never made a peep. He has been a dream sleeper ever since. We went from being up every 1 - 2 hours to getting 8 hours. It was awesome. Like I said, it was hard, but WELL WORTH IT!

Jen - posted on 01/06/2009

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Quoting Kellie:



Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child by Dr. Marc Weissbluth a sleep expert. Lifesaver.





Totally agree. Not only a lifesaver with my first, but essential with the twins that followed. Combine this book with the Happiest Baby on the Block (think that's what it's called) which adds a touch of wrapping, rocking and shushing for the first trimester - and you've got an action plan for better sleeping.



I read all the other books as well - Babywise, Baby whisperer, etc. - the reason I liked Healthy Sleep habits was that it was easier to follow, less stressful and had good solid data on sleep patterns that it was based on.

Ellen - posted on 01/06/2009

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BabyWise was condemned by the American Pediatric Association and many others as a bad book. It should be taken off the shelves! Honestly the best advice I found was in Baby 411- It reviews all the major sleep books, describes their methods and grades them. Not only that, it's a good book to have around for any other concerns you have. It's much better than the what to expect books! I also used the Weisbluth book but it's a really long book that is not well organized. The information on sleep scheduling is great though and it worked for us without making my son scream and cry. The best advice I can give you is to put him to bed earlier- between 6 and 7 is good for now since he is waking up some much. It sounds backward but babies sleep longer the earlier they are put to bed. My son goes to sleep between 7 and 7:30 and wakes up around 7;30 or even 8 some mornings. Of course if he is teething or sick he will still wake up once or twice at night, but for the most part he sleeps all night.

Eden - posted on 01/06/2009

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Babywise and Healthy Sleep Habits, Healthy Child both worked great for me.  While it is hard to let your baby cry, especially the first night, if you are consistent, you will probably find that he will cry less and less each night.  Babywise was a lifesaver for me, especially with my first.  For us, it took about 3 days.  After that, periodically, our son would wake up and cry even though everything was fine.  We chose to let him cry it out and the following night there were no tears at all.  Kids are smart...even at a young age they test their boundaries and can figure things out pretty quickly.

User - posted on 01/06/2009

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Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child by Dr. Marc Weissbluth a sleep expert. Lifesaver.

Kayte - posted on 01/06/2009

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A great book to have on hand for all general questions is the book "What to Expect the First Year" and it is written by pediatricians. I have it and I have used it as a referance several times (and it has suggestions for helping your baby stay asleep at night). Basically, what I've read is that if your baby is 6 months or older, your baby should be sleeping through the night and if s/he isn't, they're waking up and nursing for comfort. It says that you should leave your baby and let him cry through the night, and it should only take about three nights for baby to adjust and sleep through the night. It says that the key to a routine is consistancy, so if you are putting him to bed the same way every night and you let him cry through the night every night, it won't take long for him to adjust.

Tammy - posted on 01/06/2009

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Definitely get Baby Wise! My sister-in-law got this for me when I was pregnant. My baby will be 8 wks tomorrow and she sleeps 5 hrs at night and then wakes up to nurse. Do you have a nighttime routine? She likes to take a bath, get massaged with a nighttime lotion, and then nurse. She sleeps peacefully after that.

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