Complications sharing the father of my child with another pregnancy

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I've been a need of assistance on figuring out how I'm supose to go about this,legally and in a civil matter. The situation is that I am currently 19 weeks into my pregnancy and my partners wife is somewhere in her 8 month. We live in Oklahoma and this is where they were married. They both agree to divorce but she has mood swings of wanting to take him for all hes worth. He wants to do a joint custody for the baby but she only agrees to this on occasion (pretty much when she gets money or items she wants) How easy and what process needs to be taken to make this fair? or with the hostility from this woman,should he or can he get full custody. I'm not sure how much information I need to give but willing to give what needed to anyone willing to help.

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Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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You are just getting honest opinions from Mother's that have been there and have had to deal with the court systems.
You asked on a Mothers site, not a legal site.

Penny - posted on 11/13/2013

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We shouldn't be too hard on her, I am guessing she is really, really young. I as in love with a married man once, when I was 22. He had 5! kids. His wife left him for another man. Left him with all the kids too. And he still ahd to pay her child support LOL. He would work for weeks at a time and had to leave his kids with his mother, who was my neighbour. The kids used to come to my house every day to play because I was working alot of nights and his mother was very old and not very well physically.

When I met him, I knew the back story and his children very well. And it was electric and I felt an instant attraction. His kids loved me and I had all these notions that we would become a family and I would have some kids and they would all magically get along.

Then one day his wife came back into the picture. She was furious at him for moving on, even though it had been 6 months that he didnt even know where she was. She called and let me threatening messages, even showed up at my house one night. I thought it was worth it because I thought I was in love. Then one day he went back to her, no explanation, just a 30 second phone call and we were over. I called my mom in tears and she said something that put it all into perspective. He belongs to her - they had been married or 10 years and had 5 kids. They were each others first loves. I was a fling, and he belonged to her and with her. They have children and a life together. And if she decided she didnt want him, that was up to her. Not me. I had nothing to do with any of it....I was completely shocked, I had never even considered it that way. I had thought of him as a single man, but separated men are married men, always..

Perspective is a gift. Once I had a new one, my broken heart mended and I realized how lucky I was not be be carrying baby #6 LOLOL.

Penny - posted on 11/13/2013

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Honestly I get the feeling this is a legitimate post. Just because, if I found out my husband was leaving me for his pregnant mistress when I was pregnant I would sort of expect her to sound as entitled and clueless (sorry but this is accurate) as the OP. It takes a special sort of dysfunction to want to insert yourself into someone else's family and marriage.

Michelle - posted on 11/13/2013

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WOW! Elizabeth, I think you need a bit of a wake up call.
YOU are the mistress because the Father of your baby is still legally married. He has had an affair with you while his wife is pregnant and got you pregnant.
How do you really think the courts will look at this?
She was pregnant first, it doesn't matter if they were separated or not, he was still legally married. I'm sure he's a big boy and knows how to use a condom to prevent pregnancy but obviously failed twice!
Yes mood swings are a part of pregnancy and they are worsened at times of stress. is wife is going through a lot of stress with her husband having impregnated another woman at the same time! That would make ANY woman moody!!!!!

Penny - posted on 11/13/2013

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Yes, it is about what is best for the child full stop. We are in a sort of similar situation with my in laws. They want to see my children but not me (which I found out only AFTER relocating half way around the world to "join" their family, incidentally). But my daughter still breastfeeds so they did not meet their only granddaughter until she was 18 months. She still breast feeds fully but she now can go long enough without me that we have started some shorter visits and even one overnight recently (which was painful, engorgement wise). I actually felt bad inspite of everything that they had to go so long without meeting her or having regular visits. If you can stand to all be in the same room for visits that would help things alot in the beginning, would have helped us (and I offered, alot). Fact is if in this case Mom wants to breastfeed every accommodation has to be made to ensure that is supported. I have seen enough Teen Mom episodes where this is not the case, but we are not 15 year olds are we ;)

UPDATE - I wanted to add that if you and your partner are as accommodating of breastfeeding, maternal bonding and everything else, that will go far in court. But be careful, you have to remember that the court is not concerned with you or your feelings. It is concerned with the baby an what is best for it and any other minor children involved. This woman is his legal wife, pregnant with his child. While your partner has some legal rights in this instance, you have less than none, when it comes to custody of the baby she is carrying. As long as a case for abuse, neglect, or parental alienation/interference cannot be made this woman will be chosen in every custody hearing from now until the end of time. Pushing too hard for sole custody is most likely going to backfire in a big way. If you present you and your partner as stable, happy people who just want everyone to get along and form a bond with all the children, then surely you will get visitation/weekends something to that nature in time...Blended families can be a challenge but just try to put yourself in her shoes. This cannot be how she pictured her pregnancy or marriage turning out. I would be very moody too I am sure.

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Penny - posted on 11/15/2013

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In countries where a year minimum is the norm like Canada and most of Europe less than a third of that seems cruel. In Canada they have even ruled that the birth of twins means that both parents can receive paid leave. In Norway they have something called papaleven (not sure of spelling there) or daddy leave, here a man is forced to take off equal time to his wife with every birth. This means that men in Norway do not climb the corporate ladder faster than their wives and they have one of if not the highest rate of female politicians currently in office. Their political system is also run on a parliamentary schedule that is family friendly, with leaves spaced out to maximize the benefit to the family unit. Food for thought.

http://www.phdinparenting.com/blog/2009/...

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Fam...

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 11/15/2013

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Oh, it is crap, for sure. The company I was working for when I had my youngest tried to cut me down to 8, but I pulled the paperwork on the FMLA and had it delivered to both my employer and hubby's (they weren't going to let him have any time, not even for the birth).

And, since it's not mandated as paid leave, most working moms will go back earlier, simply because of their financial situation.

Jodi - posted on 11/15/2013

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Thanks for clearing that up Shawnn. I just knew someone who could only get 6 weeks. But that's still pretty crap.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 11/15/2013

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Actually, in the US, the FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) mandates that employers provide up to 12 weeks of maternity/paternity leave. Paid leave is up to individual companies to decide on.

Penny - posted on 11/15/2013

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Hey Jodi! Nice to meet an Aussie =)

Yes it sounds terrible. Imagine having a c-section. I had one and went to university 2 months to the day after and even thought I was just finishing up my degree so it was 2 classes it was torturous - to leave him with a stranger, to try to pump at school. I was tired all the time. My house was a mess. I made the choice to go back though I cant imagine being forced to go or what, lose your job I guess... it is draconian. I personally think that the way it used to be in Australia coupled with the high cost of living in the major cities is why I see so many over 40 first time moms here and never did in Canada.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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Penny, from what I gather (I am Australian too), the labour laws in the US are really quite exploitative. Apparently, in general, employers are only obligated to give a woman 6 weeks off. Again, it depends on where they work, etc, but still, that's just atrocious. It really is an example of oppression, because it is the people with the least who are disadvantaged.

Penny - posted on 11/14/2013

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What a shame. I worked at a university when I went on mat leave and it was a mid level paying job. But even someone at McDonalds gets (I think) a year and (I think) 50% of their paycheck. Now I can imagine 50% of a minimum wage job is probably NOT livable. But if say you had a 2 income family and had some things you could cut out of your budget to stay home, you have the option to do it in Canada. I feel so lucky to have been able to stay at home with my kids, it isnt everyone's idea of paradise but it saddens me that every woman who wants to isnt able to. Maybe someday...

Lacye - posted on 11/14/2013

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Really it all depends on where you work and what kind of job you do. For most of the higher paid jobs, people will take off more time, but for people who live paycheck to paycheck, well you got to do what you got to do.

Penny - posted on 11/14/2013

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How do you guys go without Mat leave. My god. I am in Australia and they just started doing about 4 months mat leave and I find it a ridiculously low. In Canada I got 90% of my wages for 12 months plus an additional 6 because my doctor said that my job was too high stress and put me on early mat leave when I was 4 months pregnant so I got 3 grand a month x 18 months. That is pretty normal in Canada and it helped alot. I cant imagine having to go back to work when my baby was 6 weeks or choosing to stay home and suffer financially. Boo.

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I am going to add a bit here too. Elisabeth-they are right. I am mom in a situation where there is a step mother involved. Legally, she has no say in any choices the father and I make. She could not even stick her five cents worth into the custody or the visitation rosters either. She can give her opinion on things and if I find them viable enough if I am told of them, I might consider her words. You have to understand this. You are the girlfriend not even the step mom. YOU have no say whatsoever in matters but what affects you directly. He has to take care of his child with her and until their divorce is over he should be supporting her. She can not work at this stage of her pregnancy. As for the maternity leave, where did you get the idea that its all over? I have to back Lacye on her comments on that. I got it but I worked in a place that had it. I did not get no maternity pay either. I got short-term disability pay which I paid for the insurance of. I have worked other places where there was no maternity leave. So you better go back and relook that up. As for legal advice, call a lawyer like the others have said. Its better for you that way. Personal experience though has also made me have to deal with this step mom who thought she knew my kids so well after only being married to their dad about a year. She still has no clue after 8 years. All I am saying is that you need to step back and look at the whole picture before making assumptions on what is going to happen compared to what will!

Lacye - posted on 11/14/2013

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Elisabeth, I am telling you for your own sanity, stay away from the custody proceedings as much as you can. In all actuality, it has nothing to do with you. The only thing you can do really is support him in his choices.

As for looking for legal advice, this is not the place. We are moms. Not lawyers. What you are going to get on here is not legal advice but rather opinions and personal experience.

My personal experience says that as long as they are still married (separated or not), he still has a responsibility to her. She is still his wife and until the divorce goes through (and if the laws in OK are anything like MS then that won't happen until after the baby is born) she is still part of his responsibility. Especially now when she is not able to work very much due to her being pregnant.

And for those that have brought up maternity leave, not all places in the US give paid maternity leave. When I had my daughter, they gave me my leave but I was not paid for it.

Penny - posted on 11/14/2013

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I have decided to delete my first post because it was a touch too mean. I feel like your life is probably going to be hard enough.

The only other advice I can give you is that what I saw with my parents is that my mom would make do on the child support she got, my father would have a hissy fit once a year and try to have it lowered, and without fail every time he dragged her to court to try and do that the judges would up the child support instead of lowering it. He went from paying $200 when I was 4 to $1100 when I was 16. For one kid. Without my mother once every trying to get an increase. He just never learned.

Like it or not the system sides with Moms over Dads, and doesn't take kindly to actions they see as self motivated or hostile, especially if they are not in the child's best interest. Remember that once it is has been decided by a court, it is all over but the crying. If you can all sit down like reasonable adults and make decision about visitation and custody (and by you all I mean them all) it would be alot better for all involved.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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We gave some "legal" advice. It's not your legal problem. It's your partner's legal problem. The only one ignorant here is the 20 year old who has no children, is in her first pregnancy with a man who cheated on his legal wife and thinks she can breastfeed the legal wife's baby.

Do you not see something wrong with that????

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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Don't tell us to read correctly, you need to be consistent in your explanation.
So if all her prenatal care is "taken care of" by the system then why has he been paying her $400 a month? You don't pay child support until the baby is born so does he have a guilty conscience? He obviously wants her to be financially stable and it sounds like you have been the one to stop him making the payments to her.

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Doesn't "being the affair" put me in the what happened and such.
Honestly I'm mostly done with ignorant woman that have their panties in a bunch. I have merely asked for law advice and I was given hatred.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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It isn't perfect, because you are not comparing apples with apples. The offence is legally different, and the child isn't YOURS. I'm pretty sure the fact the child isn't YOURS has something to do with the fact that it isn't the same thing.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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Are you saying that she had relationships with other women?
Really what happened in the marriage has nothing to do with you since you are also an affair in the marriage.
The married couple have to sort out property settlement, alimony, child support and visitation between themselves and their lawyers. Like we have said, YOU have no say!!!
It doesn't matter if you have been with him for 5 months or 5 years, they are the ones that are legally married and have to sort it put. YOU need to step back and let him sort his life out because he has made a lot of big screw ups!

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Its the same bases of argument.
Of course,you are responsible for everything that happens to you BUT the responsibility is the kid. Which I have never said doesn't deserve care.
I will agree that by him not getting divorce soon enough he committed adultery but what I was saying is that it can't be brought to the case since she cheated on many occasions in the same marriage with women.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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Elisabeth, regardless of your involvement in police reports, etc, you actually have no legal say in relation to the child. This is one of those situations in life where you can have your opinion, but it needs to take a back seat. How it impacts on your life will not matter in relation to the custody issues.

Your example of the molested child is not only irrelevant but also not making your point. That is a totally different issue altogether. Child molestation is a criminal offence. Child support, custody and visitation are not, they are civil issues heard by a family court. Not to mention that as a parent, you absolutely have the right to hire the lawyer on behalf of the child, have the court order for the child to be psychologically assessed, and so on. You have none of these rights.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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You can't compare a child being molested to a consenting adult impregnating his wife. If he was that against having children then he should have used protection, simple! He's a big boy and can make his own life choices but he has to also live with the consequences.
I was saying YOU and the FATHER has done something wrong (as in against the law), not between him and his wife.
Adultery is taken very seriously in a lot of states.

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The court should take in as every case with no emotion hold. She does have more over me but not the father. Child support is for when parents don't do a joint custody and one side of the parents sends the other (with the child) money for the kid. The law on cheating can not be taken in this case since both sides have wronged on that.
He plans a lawyer no matter what. The info here isn't anything to what actually happens. The point of any of this has always been to just get info on the laws with proof.

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Well they did something wrong, but lets say you are right. In a situation where certain measures weren't taken I believe that there should be some help but since it would be on her own fault,she should locate the bigger sum.

Age has only a portion to do with knowledge. I thank you for the none hateful way of saying though

As a person involved in many of the events that have occurred,such as police reports. I do have some legal say but in more so I have a say on the facts that it inflicts my life
Something along the same lines would be if your child was molested,you would have no right of involvement in court cases or otherwise.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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The courts won't see the situation like you do though. You are just the girlfriend and she is the wife. She has a lot more over you, especially in America.
The way the money is spent is between the father and mother, not you.
Because you are in America, he also has to pay alimony as well as child support so I hope he has a well paying job.
He has broken the law by sleeping with you while being legally married. It's called adultery and depending on your states laws he can actually be in a lot of trouble. Your country isn't as advanced in your laws as us and are still having to live by 1900's laws.
You would really be better off seeking the advice of a lawyer because this could get very messy.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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Yeah, I know Americans who were insured medically and still walked away with a bill of $20,000 for a normal birth. She is absolutely entitled to expect some level of support for that.

And at 20, honey, you have a LOT to learn. It's great that you are doing all of your research.....but life experience isn't about statistics. I think you still have a bit of growing up to do and life to experience. I am not trying to put you down by saying that. We were all 20 once. I have a daughter your age. I am trying to let you know that those rose coloured glasses you are wearing (not sure if you understand that term - it could be a cultural or generational term) may need to be taken off.

And as an addendum, you are not his wife. You have no legal right to be involved in this situation. Even if you WERE his wife, you have no legal right to be involved. It is between him and her. End of story.

Edited to Add: I AM the wife of someone with children who has had to have custody and child support disagreements, and it is nothing to do with me except when they are here and I embrace them, and the bills need to be paid. So don't think I am telling you to butt out because I support the wife. You have NO legal rights. None. That's step-parenting. Get used to it. 18 years is a long time.

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the father 24
It covers exactly the same as it covers for me as it will for her. I did my research since funds will be tight and as the people have explained,everything is covered.
I don't believe in women getting more to a situation because they are women. That is my main objection.
It does matter what the money is used for because it is for the child.
Also as I stated in my previous comment,as his partner I am to be involved in this situation.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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How old is the Father?
The "system" in America isn't as good as it is here in Australia so it doesn't cover everything, surely.
I would like to know why you are so against the Father actually paying something to his wife for his child. It doesn't matter what she uses the money for and it's really none of your business either.

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I never said the sex was forced,I said forced actions. If you really must know the details to it. The sum up is she shoved semen inside of her body since she wanted to experience pregnancy.

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I'm sorry I guess I misread your post. The system I was referring to was soonercare which takes care of medical things through the pregnancy plus WIC who takes care of food and products to start up. Maternity leave is when someone has a job,which most jobs give to I believe a month towards the end but that refers to if someone has a job. she has been without work for a good year. Though as to not be a liar she did keep one job for about a week in the last month I believe. Also I am 20

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I haven't turned around anything I've said. There is nothing to cover and I never wished for sympathy. I never broke up a family. blah blah blah. Pointless chatter to a one tracked woman

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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Elisabeth, can I ask how old you are? That is a genuine question. I just suspect you are quite young, because of some of the things you are saying. I have no problem if you prove me wrong.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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This is from one of your earlier posts:
"Well her pregnancy was from forced actions and well things happen"
You then said this a few minutes ago:
"The two of them both loved/love each other and the sex was consensual."
What is the truth?

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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So you are in the US and you have a system paying for her maternity leave AND medical? I am not from the US, but my understanding is that there is no paid maternity leave. So I am confused as to how the system is supporting her.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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I struggled to understand this latest post, to be honest. I am still deciphering.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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You have just done a 180 on everything you said a day or so ago. You don't make sense and are just backtracking to cover your butt.
No wonder you are regnant if you use the "pull out" method since that is not a "method" at all. That's just pot luck just as having unprotected sex.

Sorry, no sympathy here now, you have shown your true colours and really how can you live with yourself for breaking up a family?
You can sugar coat and duck and weave but look at the timeline of things and you are the home wrecker. I have been the "wife" in this situation and hate women like you. Most women would take a step back and let him sort out his marriage first if it was truly over, not get pregnant themselves.

Jodi - posted on 11/14/2013

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Where do you actually live (as in what country)? Because there are many countries that there is no "system".

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Oh no,I don't that at all. The two of them both loved/love each other and the sex was consensual. He has been a liar but something "feminist" need to understand about men is that they can change their ways.
I have known this man for about 2 years. The way our relationship went in was at a love level and I trusted him if the situation of kid came up. I believe love is a skin to skin thing so honestly I've personally never thought as birth control type.
Always having used and trusted the "Pullout" method I was not willing to go back to the rubber/latex barrier feeling.
As his partner I become involved in the situation. Money reserved for the child should go to the child. I'm fine with in a divorce each side getting what is rightfully theirs but nothing more or less.

There are educated people out there and every site has potential. There is nothing wrong from me wanting information before its to late. Just as all of you have the right to your opinion but I personally don't care for it.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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So she was pregnant when she left. How do you know he didn't agree to have sex with her without protection? Oh that's right, he told you. Sorry love, men will lie to look like the victim to other women!
He got you pregnant a few months into the relationship, have you never heard of birth control? You didn't even know this man but you were having unprotected sex. Wise move there.
In regards to the money: Why is it your business where she spends her money. The fact is she is his wife and in addition to child support he also has to pay alimony, so that up to her what she spends it on. Until the child is born he can't pay child support anyway. Still NOTHING to do with you!

My advice is if you want professional advice pay a lawyer, don't ask a bunch of Mothers behind a computer screen!!! We have no idea and will just give personal opinions!

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Okay,I will just respond with 1 paragraph that all of you are welcomed to read through for your parts.
Firstly thought I need to say,don't believe that someone isn't going to respond because they're gone for a day. Some do live away from the internet.
Some quick info: I am the female partner of this,they were separated,separation comes with consent,blah blah blah
Honestly since none of you are of any legal use I'm not interested in going into this as a response.
Instead, so that future people to here can give me better responses, I'm going to give more of the details.
The wife had left about 2 months before I came into the relationship picture,which in that time was when they separated. Plans for divorce have been on the table for some time but it is expensive to do so. She was aware of her pregnancy when she left. He has given her $400 as his wife though a month if not more up until recent events. The money was to go to the pregnancy but she was spending it elsewhere. With the breastfeeding portion of talk,I only mention myself as a if needed. Formula is not poison and should not be looked upon that way. Neither him or me are wanting to not support this child if his but as a separated couple she is out of the right to funds.
Can't really think of other important facts and honestly feel like I'm repeating myself.
So as said before,please if just opinionated response only,I don't care to read. Any information holders,please and thank you for any info.

Michelle - posted on 11/14/2013

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Penny: I am!!!!! I wonder what the wife's side of the story is.

I would also like to hear back from Elizabeth but because no one is supporting her I guess she won't be back.

Ev - posted on 11/13/2013

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Shawnn--your LMAO covered mine too. And I have to agree with the other ladies, Elizabeth. Why should he not have to take care of what he has helped create in this mess? First, mood swings do come into play for some women but not all. I was one of those lucky ones not to have mood swings both times. Second, no judge in his or her right mind is going to make a mother who is breast feeding give her child over after six months. IF there is any such 50/50 custody which more likely is not true, the child would be one week with one parent and then the next week with the other parent. THat is how that works, not six months on and off. Third, what made you think that you could breast feed her child when the six months was over? Also what makes you think that at six months a child (any child) is ready to eat foods and go to formula? I know for a fact that there were no over night visits for a friend of mine's youngest child until age two because of breast feeding. Until then he was allotted a few hours on Sunday after having the older kids for the weekend. As for the food, a doctor works with you on when a child is ready for certain stages of food and so on. Fourth, This is clearly not your fight. YOU have no say in any of this. All you can do is sit on the sidelines. I have to agree with the others how you think you have a right to say anything about this when its not between the three of you but the two of them. He made the choice to sleep with you and that created a child. SHe did not tell him to go do it did she? Or is there some point in this we all missed? I doubt very much she would want to share her baby with you in the breast feeding and besides that your milk might not work well with her kid and did you think of that? And you said you would be breastfeeding by then...well if she has the kid in another month and gets a routine set up you plan to upset this? I think that your thoughts are delusions.

HE DOES HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM BOTH.

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Elisabeth, I'm going to be honest with you, I have been in your situation. My daughter and my SD are exactly 2 days apart in age. The difference is, I was not married to my husband at the time and neither was is ex.

With that said, I'm laughing right now at how petty you are being. Yes he does have to support her because guess what she is his WIFE and you are NOT! He willingly had sex with her (and he said he didn't he's lying out of his two front teeth). Everybody knows that is how you make babies. If he didn't put any effort into preventing not having any kids, then that is on him.

Also, just because she is being a bitch does not make her an unfit mother. If that was the case, my husband would have custody of his other child and her mother would never see her again. You have to have proof that she is abusive to the child, her actions puts the child in danger, or if she is dead. That is the ONLY way your boyfriend will have custody. Now when they go to court they can argue back and forth what is fair. If she is breastfeeding then it will take longer for him to get the child overnight (no it does not matter that you will be breastfeeding too although in all honesty, that is just really creepy!).

And last but not least, she is 8 months pregnant, her husband has cheated on her and got his mistress pregnant, and as soon as her child is born, she is going to have to go through a custody battle. So yeah, I say she has a very good reason to have mood swings and be a bitch. She's hurting! You don't have the mood swings because you are not as far along as she is. It gets worse.

Also, you need to back out of it. This is between him and her. They are the parents of this child. In her eyes, you ruined her marriage and you are the one that is going to make this worse (even if you are not even trying). Stay as far away from this fight as possible.

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Moral of the story kids, stay faithful! :)
I agree with penny & jodi
Lol and forced actions indeed.. it takes two to tango, or salsa whichever you prefer
But either way he forced himself to take his clothes off and she forced herself to do the same, and by forced I mean willingly. Not to mention they are married, that is what married couples do you know.

Also I used to watch that show in TLC or SLICE and it was called the mistress, it was almost sad to see how naive they were. How they thought the married man would leave his wife for them. Some of them were actually smart and stopped talking to the men(if you want to call them men) but some of the women were silly enough to hang on to hope. It's been a year since I've seen the show and I bet they are still sitting at home... Alone... In their own little world of delusion.

Your best bet, get him out of your life, love life, that is and find a single man that isn't a douche and hasn't given his heart to someone else in the first place.

P.S: and yes the wife can receive support and not just for the child but it's called alimony.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 11/13/2013

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I agree, Penny, & Jodi.

I really thought that no one could be this naive, but... Entitled & clueless, a perfect description here.

Jodi - posted on 11/13/2013

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I must admit, I was thinking troll too, Shawnn, purely because I don't believe someone could be seriously this naive. Either that, or it's the husband posting.

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