Concerned grandmother of 18 month old about vaccines, the parents are so closed minded about it

Roxanna - posted on 03/18/2013 ( 9 moms have responded )

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after doing alot of reading on the matter of vaccines, im horrified ! im embarrassed to admit that i did not know vaccines were so dangerous. the doctors did a great job of hiding the true facts. it makes so much sense now, cancer, sids, disease.....its scary, because as im reading im thinking, oh my gosh this sounds like population control. but really, i can see the true reason.....money ! the drug company, known as big pharma, contribute tons of money to medical schools. hush money. the doctors are trained to not say anything bad about the vacs. the web site thinktwice.com opened up my eyes to alot of things. so when i try to share the info with my daughter and son in law....they take it as im trying to force my opinion on them. i have tried hard to not step on any toes, its their child and i respect this. i simply request they keep an open mind and do their own investigation but they just get mad. ive been in this ol world now for over 50 years, have 2 grown daughters, and if i knew back then what i know now about vacs, i would not have chose to vaccinate, i just wish the young people of today could give the elders a little more of a chance and hear them out. but i was young once, i can understand their view, totally. but i know theres a way to get through to them, im just not going about it right and not sure where to turn.

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/20/2013

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Also, for an example about cancer. I work with animals. There was a huge controversy about vaccinations that were indeed causing cancer. Namely in cats. They were finding the cancer directly in the locations where the cats (some dogs) were being administered the vaccinations. They used to put the vaccinations between the shoulder blades, and that is where they were finding it.....or wherever the injection was given. They have since changed the formula, and the locations of the site. Now they are administered on the hind legs, or the front shoulder in case they do develop carcinomas/sarcomas. If this happens, they can amputate a leg. I firmly believe if vaccinations caused cancer in humans, it would start at the injection site, since this has already been proven in animals.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/20/2013

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I would be looking at all the processed foods, products we use for cleaners, plants that are ominiting toxic fumes that are destroying our air, environment, and ozone layer, anything that essentially poisoning us. And there are so many factors. Also, take into consideration the volume of population that has increased. With a larger population, there will be more deaths. Michelle is spot on. Now we have names for diseases, and many years ago we did not.

No one really understands Sids. It has been around for a very long time. It is not new. There are ways to prevent it, but unfortunately it still happens. I do not feel vaccinations are linked.

Michelle - posted on 03/20/2013

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Just because they now have a name for children dying in infancy (SIDS shortened from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) doesn't mean vaccinations are the cause. The number of babies that died 50,60, 70 years ago was a lot more than these days.

Just because with the medical advances we can determine a person's cause of death more accurately doesn't mean the illnesses weren't around then. We just know what to look for now.

I would prefer my children (and they are) to vaccinated against deadly diseases than to contract one and die. To have the guilt of knowing that I could have done something to prevent it would kill me!!!!

I agree with the others that you can do all the research you want and depending on what argument you want to have you can always find some "evidence" to support your case, even if you wanted to convince people the moon was made of cheese. I suggest you read BOTH sides of the debate rather than propaganda.

Jodi - posted on 03/20/2013

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I've already looked at the site. It is full of propaganda. I would hardly consider it an authoritative site. It certainly cherry picks the information it provides, and it's a great way to sell their books - frighten people and they'll buy your book and other products. I have rarely found a site like this that doesn't have an agenda. This site has an agenda.

Why are there so many cases of cancer in people 50 and over? There are potentially many reasons that have nothing to do with vaccines at all. Consider the way things have changed with processed food. Consider the fact that people are living longer, so there are more people who reach the age of 50. Consider the fact that people have much poorer diets full of fats, sugars, additives, etc. Consider the fact that pollution has increased. Consider the fact that people use more antibacterial cleaners than ever before.

Didn't think of any of that, did you?

There is absolutely NO PROOF that vaccines are the cause of any of these things you have listed.

Did you also know that in many cases of lawsuits for vaccine injury, the cost of fighting the lawsuit in court is actually astronomical. Often, insurance companies (or government) will settle the case and pay rather than fight. Just the fact that people have been filing lawsuits is no proof of absolute cause.

I've done my research. And I choose to vaccinate. How do you know your daughter hasn't done her research?

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Roxanna - posted on 03/19/2013

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hi ! thank you so much for your comments. yes, i absolutely agree, one must take into account all sides. and i am in the process of doing this, believe me when i say that i "want" to believe that vaccines are safe, and have no side effects later in life, like cancer. would you mind going to this web site thinktwice.com and telling me what you think about it. and yes, i did get vaccinated for polio, measles too, but even though i was vaccinated against measles, i still got the measles when i was a young child. look, im not saying vacs are bad, or vacs are good, im just saying lets be open minded and do some research on the matter. and yes, it may seem as though vacs have kept diseases at bay, but......whats up with so many cases of cancer with people 50 and over ? and whats up with this sids ? unexplained they say ?? i wonder if there are any cases of sids with children that had parents that chose to not vaccinate? i really do not know but im going to look into it. and whats up with autism ? its practically a household word these days. and how can there be so many documented cases of families winning lawsuits because of what some vaccine did to their child, mostly the mmr. im going to continue to research this, one can never learn too much, right ? well i would like to thank you so much for your time, im sure you are very busy so i appreciate you sharing and i hope to hear from you again after you go to the web site thinktwice.com have a great day !

Roxanna - posted on 03/19/2013

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thank you for your post, i appreciate your opinion. would you mind if i sent you a web site to check out? it would help if i could get your opinion on that too. it is thinktwice.com i still have alot of research to do, one can never learn too much, no matter what the subject may be, therefore, i am going to keep learning more about this whole vaccine thing. and again, thank you for taking the time to respond. Lord knows i do not know everything so thanks for sharing. have a great day today and everyday.

Jodi - posted on 03/19/2013

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When it comes down to it, what the parents decide is none of their business. They've probably done their research too, and totally disagree with you. And let's face it, they take it as you trying to force your opinion on them because you kind of actually are.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/18/2013

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If you are going to continue to read up on vaccinations, be sure to educate yourself on both sides of the spectrum and please use reputable sites.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/18/2013

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I bet if you look on your upper arm, you will clearly see your polio vaccination which probably saved you from serious illness, paralysis, or better yet....death. Thank your parents for that.

Be careful the sites you read that are fully against vaccinations, because much like you say vaccinations are only for money, those sites also have an agenda. To provide miss information and scare the crap out of people.

Are there side effects? Sure there are. But these are life saving vaccinations. Without them, we would be plagued with...plagues.

You are right though. This is there child. They would like to protect their child as much as you want to protect their grandchild. Did you know that if their child is not vaccinated they cannot go to public school? Hell, i would be scared to cross the country if my children were not immunized properly.

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