Do you like people who buy cigs and are on food stamps?
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Sherri - posted on 05/17/2011
Personal earned money goes to buying cigarettes, Food stamps can only be used for food. So honestly if it is there personal money they can spend it any way the see fit. Honestly we get food stamps my husband works full time. I smoke and so yes $10 a week is set aside for my cigarettes the rest goes to bills. I am pretty sure people spend $40 a month on worse stuff than that. Honestly the $40 wouldn't prevent us from getting food stamps anyways.
~â¥Little Miss - posted on 05/17/2011
Well, your money wouldn't be going to the cigarettes Amy, it would be going to help them buy food.
You don't know the persons situation, they could save up to buy the cigarettes, maybe they were given the money to buy them for someone else...who knows. It is an addiction. Nope, not needed to survive. I would judge more if they were buying lobster, cavier, steak tips and other expensive food with the food stamps...then walked out to their Mercedes. I wouldn't give a fuck about the cigarette purchase at that point.
Cindy - posted on 09/17/2011
I don't let it bother me, but I don't think it's right. If you get Food Stamps, you don't have a lot of money. Also you don't get enough food stamps to buy an entire month of food, so any extra money you have should be saved to buy food or something you need.
Jenni - posted on 05/17/2011
Lovely Mosaic---- my sentiments exactly!
Geez, how much more do the 'elite' rip us off. Instead of dollars and cents... we're talking millions.
It's about priorities.... blue collar crime bad. white collar crime... meah *shrug*. But let's give poor people the hard time for buying what little luxury they can afford.
If the CEO at my husband's work forced union workers to sign a contract including a wage freeze (even though cost of living is sky rocketing), cut medical benefits and whatever else was in that contract so he can afford to buy a new bently every year..... who the heck should I be PO'd at? A welfare receipent scrounging to buy a pack of cigarettes... one of the few luxuries he can afford. Or the CEO reducing my husband's potential earnings and our health care benefits so he can drive around in his $100 000 dollar car?
Amy - posted on 05/17/2011
You mean the concept of spending extra money on cigarettes instead of food?
If people were going broke DUE to cigarettes thus forcing them to be on food stamps somehow...eh, not so great idea. But sometimes times are rough, you need help and maybe that's the little luxury you afford yourself. I know some people who don't smoke, are on food stamps and see no problem blowing three thousand bucks for chirstmas. Which is worse? Can't really judge on that one. There are so many factors involved for me to say.
I 'judge' everyone I see buying cigarettes, but only cuz I'm allergic to the smoke and I wish they were illegal. ;) Whether or not they are on food stamps wouldn't make a difference cuz everyone's got to eat... and I'm on food stamps or my kids and I wouldn't have food.
Katherine - posted on 09/17/2011
As a single mom, I can understand why people would do this. Food stamps don't pay for cigarettes anyways, but it's a habit and maybe the only vice that person has.
You can't really judge because you're not in that situation.
Now if someone was an alcoholic on food stamps that's a different story.
They obviously need help. IMO they are abusing the system by buying booze getting drunk and not working (unless they're a functional alcoholic).
So no doesn't bother me.
Alexandra - posted on 09/17/2011
Here in MA you can only buy food with foordstamps, i remember going to the grocery store and watching some lady have a huge fit because she couldnt buy CAT FOOD with foodstamps. I loved what the cashier told her "food stamps are for PEOPLE who need PEOPLE FOOD, not animals. If you cant afford to feed your cat give it to the shelter because you cant buy cat food with EBT". I almost peed my pant laughing and had to walk away because i couldnt listen to the argument of "well bootsy is a part of the family, shes a person too". Anyway off topic. I think there should be certain things that you shouldnt be allowed to purchase with money from welfare such as alcohol and cigs. If you have your own personal money fine go nuts but that money is supposed to be for basics. As far as the bday cake i have done it (yes i also receive foodstamps since being laid off when my company closed WHILE i was on maternity leave) because it was my babies bday and why should he not get a cake, its food isnt it. LOL
Brittany - posted on 09/09/2011
I receive SNAP and WIC. I am also a full time student with three children and a husband in school as well. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a job that will hire someone with my schedule?
I am not ashamed of it. I am trying to make my life better and in the process I am taking care of business by stepping up and asking for help.
I also do not believe anyone should judge someone for being on food stamps. You do not know why that person is getting benefits, if they are in school or if they have a job and just fall short. I do know there are people out there whom choose to act like fools in the grocery store.
When I checkout I do not feel ashamed or embarrassed. I do not try and hide it. Maybe it is because, I live in a small town and the people at the grocery store know who I am.
Sherri - posted on 05/19/2011
Yes Emma it is. Honestly I hate to be judgmental but it seems you can always tell the ones that are on food stamps at the grocery store on the 5th of every month. When they pay they wave their EBT cards around so proud of them.I am on food stamps but there is a difference from the ones that are living on welfare with their 20 kids in tow vs. the rare few that just need help because of the economy. I am so ashamed of it I hide the card as much as humanly possible so no one can possible be know other than the cashier.
Laura - posted on 05/19/2011
With a food stamp card you can only purchase food with it. There's a button at the register that lets the system know it's for food. It calculates what is covered or not. I work at a convenience store that takes food stamps and it does bother me on what these people buy there with their cards. When I was on welfare I would go to stop and shop and purchase cereal, bread, milk, etc with my food stamps, then go to BJ's with the cash and spend $50 on meat that would last a month. I wish I could have that luxury again so I could put more of my paycheck towards bills and savings.
Lacye - posted on 05/18/2011
My husband and I are on food stamps and while he doesn't smoke, I do. We don't go and buy junk food with the food stamps and when we run out, food comes before my cigs. That's the way it has always been. I would rather eat than smoke.
Sarah - posted on 05/18/2011
I don't really know how I feel about this. I don't think that buying cigarettes when your on food stamps is wrong. I don't think the money someone spends on cigarettes is enough not to qualify them for food stamps. However, I was a customer service desk clerk at a grocery store for 4 years, and I did have regular customers that irked me with their purchase choices. I had people who would come to me with two separate carts and a paycheck for me to cash. I would cash the check and they would pay for the first cart with it (spending quite a hefty portion on it) that was filled with tons of alcohol, tobacco products, magazines, etc (anything that couldn't be bought on food stamps) and then use their food stamps to buy crappy junk food. I dunno that just got under my skin. I don't like to be judgmental, but at the same time its like that is taking it a little too far. No, I don't think that buying a carton of cigarettes or a pack of beer while your on food stamps is wrong, but when you spend almost your entire paycheck on alcohol and cigarettes and then rely on foodstamps for your crappy junk food, I think there might be some flaw in the system. I dunno, I guess I'm torn here.
Jenni - posted on 05/17/2011
@Amy-- my post wasn't directed at you. It was just a general opinion in relation to the OP and on what Lovely Mosaic said.
I'm not sure how that family you're talking about was able to afford those things and qualified for welfare?
Those are definitely not things a regular welfare recepient can afford. The first thing they ask you in the office is if you have any assets you can sell before you qualify. That would include vehicles and a house. But of course there are people who abuse the system.
Just sayin, it isn't just poor people.
When I was 22 I was on assistance for a year (while working part time). I received $550 dollars a month for a single person. Which pays for a room, $300/month, a phone $50/month, food and personal necessities $200/month... I made about $100/week at my PT job and a percentage was subtracted from my welfare but it was hardly enough to afford a big screen tv... let alone a car, insurance and gas.
They were probably scamming the system somewhere or involved in illegal activities. Possibly doing 'under the table' work.
In the greater scheme of things... it's no different than white collars cheating on their taxes.
But I am sorry that you tried to do a good deed and it backfired like that. :( That IS awful.
Alecia - posted on 05/17/2011
it depends...i have a hard time with stuff like this because there was a time my hubby and i needed assistance while he worked his way through an electrician apprenticship and we could get absolutely nothing....no heap, food stamps or anything. there were times were we wouldnt have eaten if not for my parents. and it really gets to me that some people completely abuse the system and are lazy jackasses who use the tax money i used to pay and the money my hubby pays in to be that way. my mom saw a lady at walmart just a couple weeks ago who had a cart full of frozen meals, and 5 kids tagging behind her. i mean all the kids musta ate was kidcuisine...thats how many they had...then their food stamps didnt cover like a buck 50 of it and she bitched!!! i totally would said something cuz thats damn ridiculous....
Amy - posted on 05/17/2011
You know what people use and abuse the system if you're ever a cashier. You can tell. I'm not for abuse of the system. People who buy their veggies/fruits/milk/eggs/etc and then get cigarettes aren't so bad. The ones who buy junk and junk and junk and....where is your nutrition? that bugged me more. stretch your dollar that's not yours and get more food that will satisfy body.
Bri - posted on 05/17/2011
i think some people have rough times so this wouldnt hurt if you buy cigs, I see people buy BIRTHDAY cakes on food stamps too, some people were like in the store REALLY reaLLY?? Seriously? Gave the lady a hard time, then also bought prime rib too. Some people are confused and doesn't make sense
Jackie - posted on 05/17/2011
I personally dont give a rats ass unless the system is being abused, period. Food Stamps are there to provide assistance in hard time, not to be used as source of income full time. If I hit a hard time, say, lost my job, and I smoked and needed a little help, I wouldn't feel the need to quite smoking. Maybe cut down or buy a cheaper brand. I wouldn't choose a pack of smokes over my kids eating though. People have vises and none of anyone elses business if they need a smoke.
I hope that wasn't confusing. I guess what I'm trying to say is if the gov't assistance is being used properly then it doesn't matter if they buy a pack of smokes. I have a problem with people who abuse the system and stay on welfare because it's convenient but continue to sit on their asses.
â*PHOENIX*â - posted on 05/17/2011
Well I don’t smoke BUT
While I was working (and paying TAXES) I was also getting assistance from the state….
Some of them do work pay taxes and still need help, for those who don’t…
It doesn’t bother me…
There are people in high paying jobs doing dirty $hit everyday that mess up paychecks, mess with peoples lives, there well being, the future of their children..
Im not bothered by the person who buys cigs and is on foodstamps….
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