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Kim - posted on 10/07/2009 ( 155 moms have responded )

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My 1 month old has "failure to thrive" because she isn't gaining any weight. Any way that I can improve my breast feeding, or will I have to switch to formula?

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Think of your feeding as a three course meal: appetizer, entree and dessert. The entree and dessert have more calories and will make you feel more satisfied. Pump off the first milk (the milk that looks watery) then start feeding with the next milk that looks richer. Make sure she stays for dessert, the richest milk of all. I suggested a friend do this and he child began to gain weight steadily. I agree with consulting a lactation specialist before giving up.

Dee - posted on 10/08/2009

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Ask the pediatrician and do what the doctor suggests. Breastfeeding just for the sake of breastfeeding, if your baby is not getting enough sustenance-- it defeates the purpose.

Kristy - posted on 10/08/2009

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I agree with all of the ladies who have said to visit a lactation consultant. When I did this, I fed my daughter on both breasts and she weighed her on a very sensitive scale and could tell exactly how much milk I was giving her. It was more than I would have gotten from pumping, but less than I thought she should be getting. The recommendation was to nurse nurse nurse and to pump a bit after nursing. The more you nurse and pump, the more milk you're going to make and that should start to make a difference fairly quickly. Keep in mind when you supplement with formula, you may begin to have trouble with breast feeding. Some babies start to really like the whole, "start sucking and there's milk" that they get from a bottle that they don't get from the breast.

That being said, you need to follow your gut. Nobody is this baby's mommy but you, and you know what's best for her and for your family. If you decide to keep nursing, do so. If you decide to supplement with formula, do so. If you decide to go to exclusive formula do so, and don't let anyone push you around with this.

Hope this helps.

Jenny - posted on 10/14/2009

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breast is best but there's nothing wrong with supplementing with some formula if it makes u and baby happier and healthy!

Jane - posted on 10/10/2009

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make and appt w/a lactation consultant and be sure that you are eating well balanced meals throughout the day, you need more calories to bf than you did when you were pregnant.

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Jo - posted on 03/15/2011

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My son was nearly "failure to thrive" because he didn't put on any weight between 6-12 months. I had to start formula, turned out I wasn't producing enough breastmilk and it didn't have enough calories in it. Once my kids (my daughter too) hit about 10-15lbs I can't seem to keep up with their needs. My daughter had to be supplemented at 4 months and full formula at 6 months because I couldn't keep up with her caloric needs (she was born at 9lbs 9oz). I got a little longer with my son, but we think that's because he was born smaller than my daughter (7lbs 14oz).

I would try to improve breastfeeding, but you may need to supplement formula too... Do what's best for the baby, that's all any mother can.

Karen - posted on 10/06/2010

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Kim,
How much does she weigh? I don't think you should give up on breast-feeding just yet. Do you know roughly how many ounces she is eating at each feeding? What you could try to do is, nurse the baby, then top her off with an ounce or two of formula. Or, give her formula a few times a day. Or, if you pump you could do half breast milk and half formula.

I breast fed both of my kids for the first 2 months until I had to return to work. But, with my 2nd I had to supplement with formula for the same reason, she was not gaining enough weight.

Carole - posted on 10/24/2009

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Absolutely nothing wrong with switching to formula. Lots of babies thrive on it. Also because they won't be hungry, they will sleep and grow better. Keep up breastfeeding, but don't hesitate to have a bottle to supplement it to ensure good growth for all cells, mentally and physically. Also, your partner/family will be able to enjoy the pleasure of feeding and bonding with your baby, too. A supportive family is a blessing for any baby. Good luck. You sound like you are doing the very best for your baby.

Wendy - posted on 10/19/2009

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Organic Knudson grape juice got my milk flowing (note not the white grape juice) Also eat garlic as much as you can tolerate for some reason all three of my boys nursed much better after I had garlic cheese toast. Hope this helps with ideas.

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Try a hypoallergenic diet - no dairy, wheat, nuts, soy, eggs, or corn; 1000 Calories higher than you ate before your were pregnant. 2 liters of water daily. It's very difficult to do, but you will basically be eating or drinking something constantly. You can also try pumping your breast milk and bottle feeding it to the baby. You will know how much the baby is getting, and be able to report that to your pediatrician and/or supplement with formula. Get connected with your local La Leche League chapter. They will help enormously.

Leanne - posted on 10/16/2009

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have you had them watch you nurse?? Reason I am asking is because if she is not latched on correctly then she may not be getting the full amount of milk she could get.. also really push fluids.. and if you nurse more often.. not be strict on the every 4 hours but sometimes nurse every couple hours for a bit it may build up your supply.. just keep at it you can do it. also if it is a latching issue there are things you can get to help.. like a nipple shield and etc.. but maybe call the hospital you had her at and ask to speak with a lactation specialist and go in there and let them watch you nurse to see if she is latched correctly .. and unfortunately some women dont produce enough milk..but if this is the case you can still breast feed and supplement as well. Good luck..

Jennifer - posted on 10/16/2009

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My baby was also a 'failure to thrive' diagnosis. We spent a few weeks in children's hospital over the summer and he was finally diagnosed with Cystic Fibrosis. If your baby isn't growing, don't assume its only a food intake issue. You should definately see a pediatrician and get some blood work done to make sure your baby doesn't have something more serious going on.

Beth - posted on 10/15/2009

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As important as breastfeeding is, remember that if formula turns out to be what works best for the baby then you are still doing what is best for her. So many replies are putting a huge importance on breastfeeding ONLY. Failure to thrive is a pretty serious title so if formula is what helps her gain weight then its what she needs. Breastfeeding is NOT easy. No matter what she is your child and will love you unconditionally either way. Just do whats best for the two of you, including not stressing about the breastfeeding.

Joann - posted on 10/14/2009

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check with your Pediatrician and OB/GYN------soon

Do you see your Peds Doc daily, weekly to weigh in?

Keryn - posted on 10/14/2009

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Have u spoken to a good naturopath? They might be able to recommend sonething natural.

Margaret - posted on 10/14/2009

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Hi Kim! So great you are reaching out and asking for help! I am a pediatric nurse, a mom of 4 grown kids and a life coach. Our kids had a number of health issues when they were young but were transformed when I addressed their food sensitivities. In ow work with young moms to help them unravel this type of difficult story. It is very possible that it is something in your diet that is not being very well tolerated by your baby. The solution isn't to stop nursing as he/she (not sure which!) will likely be bothered by formula. I am curious if your baby has any other symptoms. If you go to my website you can download a form that lists all the symptoms of food sensitivities. Have a look and see if any of them fit. Also have a look at the list for yourself and notice how many of them are true for you. I offer free 1 hour sessions so if you would like a little help, please email me at margaret@dynamicchoices.ca My website is www.dynamicchoices.ca

Jenny - posted on 10/14/2009

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my baby was losing sooo much weight the first couple weeks because I wasn't producing enough milk. The main reason was that I was so tired and stressed out (and have postpartum). I talked to the lactation consultant and tried a few different things but ended going on domperidon (sp?) to help my milk come in better and am supplementing with formula. I don't feel bad as long as my baby gets mostly breastmilk! Do whatever works for you!

Beth - posted on 10/14/2009

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My best advice to you is to supplement usuing a dropper with some high cal formula. Purchase a good Medela pump and go to a health food store and get some fenugreek capsules and some Mothers Milk Tea. Pump as much as you have time too. The stimlation of pumping helps your body know to produce more milk. The supplements I mentioned do the same thing. Breast milk is BEST, but the formula supplement will help her to gain weight in the mean time. And ofcourse drinks lots of water!!! Hope this helps!

Elaine - posted on 10/14/2009

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Hi Kim,

I Breastfed 4 children exclusively, until they were at least a year and some of them until 18 mos+... That said.. your best bet would be to contact The le leche league.... please don't give up on the breast, as long as you can produce milk keep feeding him that way(They say breast is best for a reason). The le leche league will work with you to help you with advice and support. Most of the women here said to drink water, please do it, milk also... also don't forget your prenatal vitamins.... and eat a well balanced diet... don't forget those veggies(watch out for the broccoli, it may make the baby gassy), and fruit. Good luck honey... and definitely follow up with the pediatrician... to rule out any medical reasons why your little one isn't thriving... My Nephew was tongue- tied and that made it hard to nurse and now he is doing just fine (after his minor surgery).

Bonnie - posted on 10/14/2009

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I had the same problem with my son & was told to put him on formula straight away but refused to. I continued breastfeeding my son & was advised by his pediatrician to start him on solids at 4months. That really made no difference to his weight gain but he wasn't having any problems otherwise so I didn't make any other changes to his diet/routine/etc. Also, the statistics referred to world-wide are American, so depending on where you live they may not be accurate.

At the end of the day every baby is different so unless there are any health issues I'd keep breastfeeding as long as possible & talk to your doctor/pediatrician about introducing solids at 4months.

Lena - posted on 10/13/2009

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ive never heard of what your talkin about but like everyone else has said even if you have to switch to formula dont be upset. at least you tried to breast feed and whatever time you did get to breast feed counts!!! there are alot of moms out here that wont even try it cuz they are just to selfish and wanna do other things than take the time out to bond with there babies and give them breast milk like they should. just hang in there and dont get discouraged

Amanda - posted on 10/13/2009

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ask your pediatrician about both breast feeding and formula, but i'd start your little one on a soy based fomula, it's more expensive, but you don't know if the little one is allergic to cows milk, my son was it took about 1 week to realize it though, i'd go and talk to a nurse or a doctor at the wolk in as soon as possible. My daughter was like that for about 6 months.

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This is my experience and opinion only. I don't know how old your baby is. I introduced solids around 4 months or so and the weight came on. Not obese, but they did gain weight. I also but some rice cereal flakes in a bottle. When that didn't work, I fed a bottle and used a medicine syringe to slowly add solids for my daughter. Both have acid reflux like me, and so I had some of the same problems. Soy formula may help tremendously, too.

Emily - posted on 10/13/2009

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hi there, Hope you and baby are doing ok.... With my second baby , from about 1 week old i supplemented breastfeeding with formula for 1- 2 feeds a day.. This way at least i knew at least she was feeding some what...( even tough i never had a problem with the breastfeeding but it put my mind at ease....) It also gives you a break some time to let some one else do the feed and gives you chance for you to have more milk come through... I would run this by your doctor just to inform them but it shouldnt prove to be a problem.. I also agree with the others on drinking plenty of water and rest..... Hope this helps.. Good Luck

Louise - posted on 10/13/2009

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I had a similar issue with my daughter, plus i was not producing enough milk, see a lactation specialist I did and was able to keep breast feeding. I took domperidon (i think that's the spelling) you need to see your doctor to get it, it helps with milk production big time. Also was given a latex/rubber nipple to put over my own nipple and a small tube that would bo through one of the holes in the nipple and the other end into a bottle of formula so when I was breastfeeding my girl was getting both breast milk and formula at the same time. I did this until I was producing enough milk and went with straight breast feeding. Again speak to a lactation specialist they really help.

Kathi - posted on 10/13/2009

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Quoting Kim:

Does anyone have a child with,

My 1 month old has "failure to thrive" because she isn't gaining any weight. Any way that I can improve my breast feeding, or will I have to switch to formula?


My daughter had this problem too. I gave her vitamins twice a day and increased my breast feedings. I would even wake her up to nurse.

User - posted on 10/13/2009

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Quoting CHarity :

If you don't think that she isn't getting any milk, increase you water intake and use a natural herb called fenugreek, it increase milk supply and make it taste like maple syrup. Ask you Doctor first to make sure you can but i had a premature baby who was tongue tied and had to pump my milk for 5 months. IT works miracles.... for you and baby.



please, please, please don't try any herbal or homeopathic vitamins or supplements w/o consulting you doc first. some are fine for you and detrimental to your babies health.

User - posted on 10/13/2009

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my suggestion is to do both, either that or increase you caloric intake and keep takin your vitamins

Michelle - posted on 10/13/2009

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Quoting Kim:

Does anyone have a child with,

My 1 month old has "failure to thrive" because she isn't gaining any weight. Any way that I can improve my breast feeding, or will I have to switch to formula?


I had te same situation with my youngest... have to talked to a lactition specialist/nurse? I actually did introduce formula but did nursing as his primary intake.. It helped tremendously. PRaying for success for you and your baby

Bernie - posted on 10/12/2009

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I had the same problem with both my babies. What worked for me is to nurse, I had to do both sides 15 minutes each and then fill them up with formula. They still got all the bonding and antibodies from nursing and then gained weight on the formula. I nursed them both for 6 months then just gave formula. I was really depressed with my little girl, but by the time my little boy came along I was ok with asking the nurses for a bottle right in the hospital. They said it wouldn't work. But it worked fine. Good luck.

Jennifer - posted on 10/12/2009

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Quoting Marie:

Don't give up on breast-feeding just yet if you really want to make it work. It can take a while to fully develop a good nursing relationship. **Drink tons of water--that helps milk production, and don't forget your nursing vitamins! Don't supplement unless your pediatrician tells you to; it can interrupt your nursing relationship. Work with your OB and your pediatrician. MOST IMPORTANTLY: don't feel like a failure if it turns out you have to switch to formula. You tried to nurse, and that's what matters! You can develop a perfectly loving and close relationship with your baby on a bottle.



**I just wanted to add to the information above. I could never understand why right after I had my daughter, my mother and grandmother were trying to drown me in water for my milk supply...and I didn't feel this was the right thing to do so I talked to 3 different lactation specialists who all told me the same thing: drink to thirst. Do not over-hydrate yourself as it has a negative affect on your milk production. Higher than necessary amounts of water in your system can actually dilute the hormone Prolactin, which is responsible for the production of breastmilk. This is in fact a question the National Board Exam for Lactation Nurses. And the answer is, drink to thirst. I don't mean to rebutt at all, only to correct misinformation. My mother dried up after 8 weeks...I did things differently than she an nursed to 6 months (last week). Make sure to stay hydrated, but don't make your eyeballs float, lol. I hope this helps you and your little angel.



And I'm totally with Marie that you should hang in there and give it time to work, and if not, you gave it your best shot and that's what's most important. God Bless.

Patty - posted on 10/12/2009

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Stick to breast milk. Just nurse more often, eat plenty of nutritious food and drink a lot of liquids. Your milk will catch up to babies demands.

Drue - posted on 10/12/2009

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Drink lots of water an while feeding the baby on one side, pump on the other. Pump and feed the baby what you have pumped, and feed the baby when ever they are hungry. I never had any of my three children on sheduals and they are great! I breast fed for a year with each one of my children. I would not stop but maybe you could supplament with formula as well as breast feed.

CHarity - posted on 10/12/2009

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If you don't think that she isn't getting any milk, increase you water intake and use a natural herb called fenugreek, it increase milk supply and make it taste like maple syrup. Ask you Doctor first to make sure you can but i had a premature baby who was tongue tied and had to pump my milk for 5 months. IT works miracles.... for you and baby.

Becky - posted on 10/12/2009

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My son would not latch properly, no matter what I tried he wouldn't latch. He would get frustrated and I would get frustrated, so I pumped for 3 months and gave it to him. He would also fall asleep as soon as I put the bottle in his mouth, so I would have to take a cold wet wash cloth and wipe it across his forehead and blow on his head to wake him up to get him to eat enough. Tapping the bottle while he was eating kept him awake. He had to eat every 1 1/2 hours, but he was a big baby. I pumped and fed for 3 months until I went back to work and then swtiched him to formula. Also if you are not producing enough milk, my lactation consultant told me to take Fenugreek, it is a supplement you can get a GNC. You take 3 tablets 3 times a day and it will increase your milk production. Try not to take any allergy medications or decongestants while breastfeeding because it can dry up your milk.

Jane - posted on 10/12/2009

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my baby is fine but my sisters baby was the very same he wasnt gaining any weight and projectile vommitting alot. it turned out he had alot of allergies and was allergic to my sisters milk,i would say bring your child to the doc just to rule out allergies and to get to the root of the problem

Tina - posted on 10/12/2009

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I would try both, formula during day but keep up da breast for as long as possible, as no other feeling like it, and nothing better for ur baby, good luck, tis just giving them a bigger boost, and i believe dat this helps they little tummies adapt better to formula, and weening foods, but breast is best, so as long as u can handle the sore boobs, keep it up.

Lisa - posted on 10/12/2009

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Discuss with Midwife or Plunkett, but what i have done is both ,breast first then a top up with formula as i have had this issue with all of my kids and it came down to my own milk not having enough energy.

I had quantity just not quality.

And if you find that you need to bottle feed fulltime DO not feel like a failure it happens to the best of us. We as mums just have to do what is best for our babies.

KENDRA - posted on 10/12/2009

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iI hand that problem w 2 out of three of my kids i ended up giving them a couply teaspoons of this fumlula that is made spasificelly to help babies gain weight. and it worked great! i did that for about a month or so then sopped the formula and only breastfeed and they never had a prob gaining again good luck

KENDRA - posted on 10/12/2009

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iI hand that problem w 2 out of three of my kids i ended up giving them a couply teaspoons of this fumlula that is made spasificelly to help babies gain weight. and it worked great! i did that for about a month or so then sopped the formula and only breastfeed and they never had a prob gaining again good luck

Samantha - posted on 10/11/2009

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I had issues with my supply and a lactation consultant suggested pumping or nursing every hour to help increase it. If you are using a pump, a medical or hospital grade makes a difference (it did for me anyway). Madela also has the suplement thing-y that another mom was talking about. It goes around your neck and little tubes attach to your breasts and provide additional milk (either formula or breastmilk, whatever you put in it) while still stimulating you to produce more milk. It sounds a little wierd, but makes sense when you see it. Check out the Madela web-site. Best of luck!

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Quoting Krista:



Quoting Sahra:

Ur diet is her diet... i breast fed for nearly a month den switchd to formular my daughter was premature of a month n a half I lost kilo's wen i was surprise pregnant um dey r spose to lose weight at sum stage n keep da same whight den dey pack it on again LoL ya best bet is to ask ya home care nurse :)





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LOL - i thought it was just me, I read it three times before I understood :)

Kay - posted on 10/11/2009

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I have been an OB nurse and taught Lamaze most of the past 25 years- This is an old fashion remedy but sometimes I think they work the best. this is for increasing your milk supply. Alfalfa sprouts , whole grains (especially corn millet, and oats) in place of cold cereals. Avoid sugar- drink plenty of hot water and clover tea. Drink 3-4 cups of oatmeal groul daily (recipe below). Plenty of rest as much as possible at night and nap when baby naps in the day.( your kitchen floor can wait) Be as calm and restful as you can while nursing. When the baby drinks you drink.

You can make what they can an oatmeal gruel - Simmer gently 20 min. 1 quart of water - 1/2 cup of Oatmeal,quick oats - pnch of salt. Beat with egg beater and strain or blend and strain - then put in blender and add 2 tsp of honey (make sure it is not raw honey). For Mom to drink -

Talk to your lactation consultant - if they are suggesting you suppliment with formula ask how you can do that using a Lact-aide. Baby gets milk from a small tube while they nurse and they can get breast milk from you & supplement & at the same time stimulating your milk to to contiunue.

Many blessings as you strive to do the best for your baby!

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maybe its best that you slowly introduce the bottle or get a breast pump and pump milk and give it to your baby that way.......i wouldnt know much about that cuz i started off right away bottle feeding so yeah......but my guess is see a doctor and maybe slowly introduce the bottle........

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My daughter was 6 weeks early and has a birth defect so i was not able to nurse right away but i pumped every three to four hours... She was 6 weeks old when i got to nurse my baby... I pumped and nursed for 6 months.. i am still pumping... i know that i eat ice cream and drink tons of water.. and i still pump every five hours... but depending on if u r comfy with letting her have a bottle.. this will help with milk prodution.. U nurse one time then bottle the next but u pump b4 or right after the bottle.. either way i have found that this has help me... i didn't learn this with my first child...

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My daughter was the same way........I had to increase her calorie intake..... such as adding powder milk to her food. they eventually grow out of it and even up. However is it an underlying thing? your nursing though.... hmmmmm a baby eats only when they are hungry. Feed baby when they tell you! dont be too concerned yet! as long as you little one isnt loosing weight dont be too upset!!! Good luck!!

Julie - posted on 10/11/2009

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You need to supplement with special formula and you can still breastfeed. Do you go to the pediatrician to have the baby weighed weekly? I work in a peds office and we have our "failure to thrive" babies weigh in every week. "Failure to thrive" is no joke!

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IF THE BABY DOESN'T APPROVE TO BREAST FEEDING THEN I WOULD SUGGEST TO BOTTLE FEED FORMULA SO THE BABY CAN GAIN THE PROPER WEIGHT

Michelle - posted on 10/11/2009

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Have you had her tested for Celiac Disease? It's the inability to process any grain gluten (which is in just about everything) and one of the symptoms is failure to thrive. She could be sensitive to any grain you eat since you are breastfeeding. Check ingredients carefully if you decide to go with formula. You definitely need to consult with your pediatrician. Good luck.

Johanne - posted on 10/11/2009

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When my son was about 3months old, I found out he wasn't gaining weight. I was bringing him to the early years center to get his weight every 2 weeks. No gain, went one week later and again no gain. My doctor said I had to start substituting with formula. I did this until my supply was gone, about 2 months later.

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Contact a lactation consultant and don't give up breastfeeding. My last daughter was also labeled as failure to thrive. I started out breastfeeding her and she didn't gain any weight, kept losing weight and after 3 weeks the pediatrician suggested switching her to formula. But she continued to lose weight on formula and we struggled with weight issues and still do at 2 1/2 years old. After she turned 15 months she was put on pediasure and that was our only lifesaver. She started gaining weight and for the first time in her life looks healthy. Without the pediasure I don't know what we would have done. She was below 5% on the charts and was so frail and sickly looking, We had every test imaginable run on her and just couldn't figure out why she wouldn't gain weight. I'm sad I felt pressured into quitting breastfeeding since the formula didn't help either. We had similar issues with my newest baby and he lost 2 pounds after birth. I didn't quit breastfeeding this time, stuck to my guns and got a lactation consultant. He's 7 months old and doing just fine now, a porker he is.



Nurse frequently and if your not producing enough you can do many things to help boost supply like pumping for 10 minutes after a feeding, drink plenty of water, eat oatmeal, fenugreek, mothers milk tea, reglan (prescription med) and many other options out there. Talk to your DR before taking anything, see a LC, seek help from the la leche league, join a breastfeeding support group, but don't give up, there is hope. Hang in there!

Althea - posted on 10/11/2009

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If there are no medical reason for the failure, you might want to try nursing and bottle. I had to do that with my son, not because of a failure to thrive but because he was just greedy lol. Also, make sure you are eating enough. Sometimes after giving birth, we focus on getting rid of the baby fat and forget that when nursing, the baby eats what you eat. If you are not taking in enough calories for the two of you, that could be a problem. Hope this helps, and hang in there check with your doctor. Let us know how things turn out.

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