false dna test reports

Sandra - posted on 06/10/2015 ( 37 moms have responded )

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yes ladies it can easily be done. did you know these labs are not regulated? so no one watching them. got a friend working at one? they can arrange things really easily. and because the courts never question the work, it is almost impossible to prove. the labs will NOT release the work for independent examination,,, IF you can find anyone with the knowledge to review it who could be called independent. and no, clinical trials have ever been done to prove the error rate they claim. it is based on supposition. I now have a report that proves the dna profile in the test is not my daughter and so not me. the courts and even the police, are ignoring it. the sob who is my daughters father is claiming I only am claiming he is her father because I want money. since he claims to earn no more then 50 thousand a year and owns nothing. I have pointed out that you have to have money to be wanted for it. almost everything out of his mouth is a slanderous lie, and like so many, the moment I told him I was pregnant he ran. they must all go to the same how to be a jack### school.

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Sarah - posted on 06/14/2015

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I am a little late to the debate but I am curious where this happened to you. There have been one or two instances in my career that I have been a witness to a DNA sample collection. I have to provide ID, the sample is collected, sealed in front of me and another witness by the lab tech. Every sample is taken twice and they share a unique serial number. Each party tested in given the serial number as well. Friend or no friend, the chain of custody must be intact, notarized and well documented. How, do you think the tests were falsified? The second sample is sealed with the same serial number and held for the sole purpose of contested results. The adult parties involved in the testing are privy to the results; the complete results. If you felt your results were not accurate, go get a test at another lab and compare your markers. If the two results do not match then you have cause for a retest. The lab that was used for the testing in the Chicago area, does not even use the participants names, they are given ID numbers to go with the serial number and are only identified as "male/female child" "potential male/female parent". When the results come back they are under the ID number and not the name. To say the labs across the country, to save on testing time and cost are logging peoples DNA by their name and using old data seems unlikely.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/12/2015

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You aren't talking to anyone. You're posting on an internet forum, which is open to all.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/12/2015

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Offering opinions is what this site is for. I'm telling you that the site that YOU directed me to stated, in the first paragraph of information, that INCORRECT DNA TESTING IS RARE.
I'm sorry that you don't like that, but you directed me to that site, so I'm using the information that you wanted me to see.
You proceed to rant and rave about what jackasses men are, but you don't seem to understand that not all ARE jackasses. Yes there are some out there, but there are some pretty petty bitches out there too.
We've stated that, if you feel that there is an issue, you can fight it in court, and should do so. We've stated sympathy. What else do you want? We're using the information that YOU provided, after all.
Besides that, you asked if anyone hadn't ever slept with someone before marriage, so that was another question to be addressed, which we did.
This is an open international internet forum. You cannot dictate who may or may not respond.

Dove - posted on 06/12/2015

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I did sleep w/ someone I wasn't married to... but then we got married and THEN we had our kids and ever since he left I've been done w/ sex. ;)

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/12/2015

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Actually, yes it IS rare, and the website you directed me to, specifically said that it is a rare occurrence. and, yes, I've slept with someone without being married...and I used birth control. That's what it's out there for.

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♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/14/2015

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I'd also like to point out, to the original poster, that she cannot have any idea of who, or who is not going to need to 'deal with the dna industry'... Oh, and by trying to say that some of us haven't, you are incorrect.
I know that I've had dealings with paternity tests. Not for my kids (their father and I are very happily married 25 years) but in the case of my alleged step daughter. It is impossible, in the US to have a test tampered with. There are checks and balances during the entire process, as Sarah pointed out.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/12/2015

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Who's been rude, Sandra? Who's been self righteous?

Michelle - posted on 06/12/2015

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Well being a moderator on this site, I have to read all the threads. You can't tell people to stop posting as this is an open international forum. The whole purpose is to get help, opinions and advice from others around the world. It also helps to hear other sides and discuss alternatives.
Michelle,
WtCoM Mod.

ETA: Please read the No T.H.U.M.P.S policy we have. Calling people names isn't tolerated.

Dove - posted on 06/12/2015

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Telling people they aren't allowed to post on your post is one of the most surefire ways to guarantee you are going to get comments that you don't want to hear. You can certainly ignore anyone that you don't want to hear from. That's the beauty of the internet... anyone can post where they like and others can choose to read and respond... or not.

Sandra - posted on 06/12/2015

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you have been told to beat it you are rude and self righteous, I am offering my comments ONLY to the women who may end up dealing with the dna industry, that is not you. go away

Sandra - posted on 06/12/2015

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I am specifically stating that this site as I am posting is offered to women who man inadvertently find themselves involved in any way with the dna industry, any others have no business here, please leave

Sandra - posted on 06/12/2015

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no I cannot but I can say I do not want to talk to you again. now go away

Dove - posted on 06/12/2015

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lol You have 11 posts to your name and you are arguing w/ people who have thousands of posts to their names.... We have just as much right to comment on your stuff as you have to post it. Just because it happened to YOU... does not mean it happens a lot... no matter how much you claim it does.

I get it... you are bitter and angry and are speaking out about it. Fine, you can do that, but WE can also turn around and share that just because it happened to you does not mean it happens a lot and it IS an easy enough situation to avoid w/ a little common sense and protection. Don't procreate w/ jerks... and yes, I have a right to say that cuz I did procreate w/ a jerk and while he IS a deadbeat loser to our kids... he never once denied that they are his because he knows me better than that. ;)

Sandra - posted on 06/12/2015

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as I have said, it is not rare no matter what the labs claim. they claim many things that are not true. if you do not like the information on this site,,, you do not have to read it or respond to it. In fact, I have said,, this is for the women and children who find themselves in the same situation . since you are not one of them, offering opinions is not your issue. please discontinue,

Sandra - posted on 06/12/2015

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no, it is not rare, and I am offering some information so it happens to fewer of women everywhere, if it doesn't apply to you, you don't need to read this,, but for anyone who finds themselves in this position. read the information carefully and apply it,

Michelle - posted on 06/12/2015

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Yes I've had sex with someone I wasn't married to but I also made sure I didn't fall pregnant.
Sorry you are going through this but like Little Miss said, it's rare.

Sandra - posted on 06/11/2015

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all you have to do, is date the wrong man. and most of them look very convincing. anyone had sex with anyone they are not married to? then it could happen to anyone,

Dove - posted on 06/11/2015

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I don't know anyone that has had false paternity testing.... maybe because I don't know anyone that had to have paternity testing in the first place. It's really not a hard problem to avoid.

Sandra - posted on 06/11/2015

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no my situation is not rare, I am just really clever at getting out there, a lot of women, who I know of, simply give up. here are some questions to ask of any lab, what is your error rate, any lab that says they have none is lying, no lab is perfect, who do you report your errors to,,, since there is no industry regulation, any answer will be interesting, in some instances it has been proven that labs actually claim to have done work that they didn't even have the equipment to run, and all of this is able to be seen when you ask for the file, if they refuse,,, if you even have to think about going to the court,,, you have a problem.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2015

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I think your situation is pretty rare (thankfully). I wish you the best and hope you turn this around soon for your own sanity.

Sandra - posted on 06/11/2015

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what I have found is that the courts are very angry at being told they allowed this evidence into court and are responsible for the damage, the judicial system doesn't want to hear or address this, I am working on doing it anyway. with the help of a genetics professional that I actually found who was willing to make some statements that were most helpful, pointing out the flaws with the testing, the false claims of dna profiles that do not match etc, the underlying issue with this is that a lot of people, a lot of children depend on this system to acquire their legal identity, and their support. and they are being failed. it is my hope, that my experience, my knowledge of what is happening, can be shared with as many mothers as possible, because it should not be continuing to do this.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2015

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I found and read your whole story. Sounds like you may need a better lawyer that actually tries to fight for you. Sorry about your situation. I really hope you and your daughter find peace with this, whether it be finally getting proper results, or moving on. What a tough situation.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2015

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So Sandra, have you talked with your lawyer about this? Showed the lawyer the proof you have that it was falsified? Have you gone back to the courts and talked with a judge about this? What are they doing to rectify this? There has to be something they can do.

Sandra - posted on 06/11/2015

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pull up can a paternity test be wrong, understanding genetics, that is one site, there are MANY MORE pull up dna testing errors frauds etc.

Michelle - posted on 06/11/2015

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The labs can't with hold reports if the courts order them to be released.
Like it has been suggested, get the testing done out of state if you are concerned about the integrity of your local lab.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/11/2015

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I just did your suggested search and the only thing related to a DNA test for paternity being falsified was this specific post.
As others have suggested, if you feel there is a problem with the test performed, and have solid proof of the problem, it should be no issue to have another test done through your attorneys. Unless you live in the US and your child is over the age of 7, that is, because there is a statute of limitation on paternity tests of 7 years.
Another point: your post is fairly hard to read, because you are ranting. Understandable since you're upset, but the ladies asking for clarification are doing so for a reason, and to imply that anyone who asks for clarification didn't read your post is a bit, well, defensive. Just provide clarification.

Sandra - posted on 06/10/2015

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you wouldn't think it would you,, neither did I,, until I was the victim of it. try pulling it up on the internet, the stories of how many others are also fighting this is unreal, it might not be good for the labs, but that is why they largely refuse to release the files for examination. if you cant examine the work. you cannot check what has been done,. the labs are unregulated, no one watching them but themselves. so, what are the chances of them getting caught. and the courts largely do not believe women when we say, this is not right. so, don't trust anyone if you have to go for dna testing. watch everyone, and everything. and remember, there are NO CLINCAL TRIALS to support their accuracy claims, it is based on supposition. I have a statement from a geneticist on this one.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/10/2015

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If you have proof, then take it to the court. They hopefully can do another court ordered one maybe from out of state, or under an anonymous names. I don't know. Beings they are court ordered anyway, i don't legally think DNA tests could be falsified. That could be really bad for the people falsifying medical records.

Sandra - posted on 06/10/2015

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I am saying that HE falsified the test, I repeat, if you have a friend who works at a lab, and the labs all have a special working relationship with the police, it can be arranged, the labs are not regulated, and so, proving it, is very hard, and no, I am not wrong, he is sarahs father, when you ask the labs for the file so it can be reviewed they will and have refused, all labs share data, there are web sites where all dna profiles are stored and accessed by all other labs. I have spent a lot of time researching this, and now have proof of the dna profiles used as my daughters and mine, are not ours., the labs make a lot of money claiming to be the last word, proving they are lying is not popular.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/10/2015

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And, please don't throw blanket statements about ALL men. My husband has not attended the jack### school that your ex has. Not all men are like this, and it is very unfortunate that ANY are.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/10/2015

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Sandra, just trying to help and understand what is going on. Your post really isn't that clear about what is happening. Please don't be angry at us for asking you to clarify.

Sandra - posted on 06/10/2015

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if you cant understand fraud, re read the post. and I know of absolutely no victim of fraud who is unlikely to be bitter. the slander alone will take care of that.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/10/2015

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Are you encouraging women to use false DNA reports? Or are you claiming that is what was done to you? If that is what you think happened, go through another lab. Have as many tests done as you need to do. Get a lawyer. Perhaps he really isn't the father? Was there more than one man at a time? I just have never heard of anyone using false DNA reports to get out of child support.

Dove - posted on 06/10/2015

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You don't make a whole lot of sense, but you sound very, very bitter.

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