For Ontario Moms, did you know???

Heidi - posted on 09/16/2009 ( 23 moms have responded )

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Well I am on School Council at my sons school and last night was a real eye opener for me and other parents. Did you know that effective this school year there will be no more treats brought to school to share with your friends on special occasions, such as Halloween, Christmas, cupcakes on there birthdays, Easter and so on? What is this coming to? I know they are trying to enstill "Healthy Eating Habits" but come on. Let the kids be kids. Its not like it happens everyday. When my boys go to school I pack there lunch and they have healthy items in it and a treat. I am sure most other moms are like that as well. My boys like giving there friends treats on special occasions, and they enjoy when I make cupcakes for the class on there birthdays, but I guess I won't be doing that anymore. Also our school has pizza day once a month and now the pizza will be made of whole wheat crust with only cheese on it, nothing more. New this year we will be having hot lunches twice a month with East Side Marios serving food. All the food from East Side will be from the low fat menu.

I just feel like the Board of Education is going a little extreme on all of this. Does anyone else feel that way, or is it just me???

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Shannon - posted on 02/02/2011

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Quite frankly I am looking forward to next year then. My son is allergic to peanuts, eggs, kiwi, cats, shell fish, tree nuts and there are absolutely no allergies in our family. The school brings in snacks at least once a week and the teacher always tells him, “We’ll send yours home with you.” He comes home to look in his bag and there is nothing there. I feel so devastated for him. I would just prefer it be completely banned!

Shannon - posted on 02/02/2011

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Quite frankly I am looking forward to next year then. My son is allergic to peanuts, eggs, kiwi, cats, shell fish, tree nuts and there are absolutely no allergies in our family. The school brings in snacks at least once a week and the teacher always tells him, “We’ll send yours home with you.” He comes home to look in his bag and there is nothing there. I feel so devastated for him. I would just prefer it be completely banned!

Melissa - posted on 09/17/2009

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every time they go into public you risk an allergic reaction...and airborne usually only applies to peanuts...this is why an epi pen is sooo important...high school age are old enough to moniter themselves and carry their own epi....it's a risk you have to live with, and worry about every day

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Since it's been brought up, I have a question. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I'm not looking to start a fight. This is something I've always wondered about. I know people with food allergies but none of them have an 'air born' allergy so they can't answer my question. What I want to know is what happens when you take a child with an air born nut allergy out in the general public? There is no way to moniter what the people around you are eating what if someone nearby is eating something with peanut butter in it? Do these kids go shopping with their parents? There a tonnes of products in stores with nuts in them, are they just not allowed in those aisles? And what happens when they enter high school, the high schools don't monitor food allergies the way elemtary schools do. They're still peanut free but it's not strictly enforced, the students are considered old enough to know what they can and can't have. And what about after high school when they enter college, university and the work force, these places have no food allery policies at all. Once again no disrespect intended, I'm just curious. I'm so thankful that my son, so far, has no food allergies.

Melissa - posted on 09/16/2009

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i never said you would purposefully go out and send something that a child is allergic to on your kids lunch.....all im trying to say if you had a child that had a life threating allergy you would probably do everything in your power to keep them safe...and yes there are allot of allergies now....i grew up not even knowing anyone with a food allergy...i wish i knew why allergies are appearing

Ashley - posted on 09/16/2009

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i didnt say anywhere that i would purposely send my child to school because i thought a parent was over exagerating. like i said yes i do beleive that SOME parents exagerrate their childrens allergies just like some parents exagerrate when their child is sick. i said i would respect the schools rules but at the same time i'm not goin to send my child to school with just vegetables. anyways my children arent even in school yet but when they are there will probably be children that are allergic to every food possible out there and they will be sending home 10 pages of things your children cant bring to school.

Melissa - posted on 09/16/2009

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Quoting Ashley:



Quoting Melissa:




Quoting Ashley:

in my nephews class they cant bring peanuts because apparently if this child smells peanuts they will die. i'm not quite sure if i beleive that one. my brother has an allergy to peanuts and my mom bought peanut butter for us all the time. we'd eat peanut butter right infront of him and it never did anything. now if he eats it he gets super sick. feels his throat closing, throws up, swells up. so that is a pretty severe allergy and i have yet to kill him by eating peanuts around him!







actually their is a diffrence...just because your brother cant eat penut but can be around it means he doesn't have a airborn allergy.....other people cant be in the same room....other people will have an allergic reaction just by skin contact........this is what scares me...people that think like you do (no offense, it's just more education is needed)......










well i sometimes find it hard to beleive  thats all i'm saying. i dont need more education thank you very much. skin contact is different. i find it funny that all of a sudden this airborn allergy to peanuts has come up. for all the years i was in school you never heard this and all the years before my brother and sister were n school you never heard it and all the years before that. then all of a sudden one year "one" child in the class has an airborn allergy. then the next yr once again it's just "one" child. i'm not saying there arent people with airborn allergies i beleive that some parents take it too far. if i want to send my children with home made cookies to school i should be allowed to. you are making it sound like i would purposely send my child to school with peanut butter. i didnt say that anywhere. as much as i hate some of the shit they do in school i still respect their rules. scared because of the way i think??  because thats my own opinion? i have mine and you have yours. like i said i really do think some parents take this whole allergy thing to another level and maybe exagerrate it a bit and sorry to say but that is how i will feel forever!!





actually the reason i said it scares me is becasue my son is allergic and if someone was to think...'oh...she's over exagerating' .....my child might die.....so when you see your baby in emergancy and gasping for breath because someone thought....it's just an allergy, whats a lil stomach ache....and all it takes is a child eating something like a cookie containing milk comming over to my child and touching him transfering the allergin to him and him injesting it...

Ashley - posted on 09/16/2009

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Quoting Melissa:



Quoting Ashley:

in my nephews class they cant bring peanuts because apparently if this child smells peanuts they will die. i'm not quite sure if i beleive that one. my brother has an allergy to peanuts and my mom bought peanut butter for us all the time. we'd eat peanut butter right infront of him and it never did anything. now if he eats it he gets super sick. feels his throat closing, throws up, swells up. so that is a pretty severe allergy and i have yet to kill him by eating peanuts around him!





actually their is a diffrence...just because your brother cant eat penut but can be around it means he doesn't have a airborn allergy.....other people cant be in the same room....other people will have an allergic reaction just by skin contact........this is what scares me...people that think like you do (no offense, it's just more education is needed)......






well i sometimes find it hard to beleive  thats all i'm saying. i dont need more education thank you very much. skin contact is different. i find it funny that all of a sudden this airborn allergy to peanuts has come up. for all the years i was in school you never heard this and all the years before my brother and sister were n school you never heard it and all the years before that. then all of a sudden one year "one" child in the class has an airborn allergy. then the next yr once again it's just "one" child. i'm not saying there arent people with airborn allergies i beleive that some parents take it too far. if i want to send my children with home made cookies to school i should be allowed to. you are making it sound like i would purposely send my child to school with peanut butter. i didnt say that anywhere. as much as i hate some of the shit they do in school i still respect their rules. scared because of the way i think??  because thats my own opinion? i have mine and you have yours. like i said i really do think some parents take this whole allergy thing to another level and maybe exagerrate it a bit and sorry to say but that is how i will feel forever!!

Amanda - posted on 09/16/2009

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I'm in Alberta and although it's not that extreme yet, it's getting there. They have already started peanut free schools, and treats at holidays are no longer encouraged, but they aren't prohibited. I'm not saying that the people with allergies aren't important, however, there is ways to deal with food allergies without going to extremes. Yes I think that children should be encouraged to eat well but that should be at the disscretion of the parents, not the schoolboard. I am so glad that my daughter won't be in school for a few more years and I'm honestly starting to think that it might be better to home school her.



As for the Happy holidays, instead of merry christmas thing, it's a matter of being politically correct. Alot of people don't celebrate the same holidays, however, there is no need to teach children that saying merry christmas is wrong, just that happy holidays would include more of their friends.

Jocelyn - posted on 09/16/2009

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i'm all for healthy eating habits, but things are just going too far...let kids be kids! one cupcake a month is not going to make a kid fat! i'm dreading when my son has to start school (but i'm in alberta, so maybe our govt will be behind in this as well LOL)

Melissa - posted on 09/16/2009

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Quoting Ashley:

in my nephews class they cant bring peanuts because apparently if this child smells peanuts they will die. i'm not quite sure if i beleive that one. my brother has an allergy to peanuts and my mom bought peanut butter for us all the time. we'd eat peanut butter right infront of him and it never did anything. now if he eats it he gets super sick. feels his throat closing, throws up, swells up. so that is a pretty severe allergy and i have yet to kill him by eating peanuts around him!


actually their is a diffrence...just because your brother cant eat penut but can be around it means he doesn't have a airborn allergy.....other people cant be in the same room....other people will have an allergic reaction just by skin contact........this is what scares me...people that think like you do (no offense, it's just more education is needed)......

Melissa - posted on 09/16/2009

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this would be good for me my son is allergic to milk and strawberries....:).....he's gonna feel so left out when he cant take part in such activities :(

Heidi - posted on 09/16/2009

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Well I am in Cambridge and my boys go to a Catholic School. At Christmas time yes they say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, but they also have a Christmas Concert every year as well so I am surprised we are still allowed to call it Christmas!!!

OUr school has a child that has an "Air Born" alergy to nuts, so I guess some cases can be severe. Before kids go to school they are to wash there hands and brush there teeth(which should be done anyway), but its to ensure there is no trace of nuts.

I understand some of the changes that is going through, but certain holidays are all about having fun, so why not let the kids have a treat once in a while?

All I have to say I am so glad I am done with school, but I feel for all the kids these days because they can't do much of anything anymore. We even have litterless lunches. Everything has to be packed into tupperward containers, so the school has less waste in the garbages, and the kids are not allowed to take food outside, they have to eat there snacks in class before going out for recess. And no plastic water bottles either, it has to be stainless steal or drink from the water fountain. To much if you ask me!!!

Ashley - posted on 09/16/2009

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in my nephews class they cant bring peanuts because apparently if this child smells peanuts they will die. i'm not quite sure if i beleive that one. my brother has an allergy to peanuts and my mom bought peanut butter for us all the time. we'd eat peanut butter right infront of him and it never did anything. now if he eats it he gets super sick. feels his throat closing, throws up, swells up. so that is a pretty severe allergy and i have yet to kill him by eating peanuts around him!

Jaime - posted on 09/16/2009

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I think there are a lot of things that are blown out of proportion these days when it comes to our kids and school. Food allergies frustrate me because, although I can understand that a peanut allergy is severe, it's frustrating that there are some schools in Ontario that won't allow homemade snacks to be brought because of the potential that there could be peanuts in the snack. My friend's husband is a chef and he had made a batch of muffins at work one day and gave one to his daughter for her lunch. The school sent a letter home saying that all snacks had to be store-bought and peanut free...he was extremely upset because the school had thrown away the muffin and told him that if he couldn't provide appropriate snacks that they would provide them for her---what kind of bullshit is that? I know that there are kids with extreme sensitivity to foods, but it's getting to the point of ridiculousness. I was at playgroup yesterday and another friend was saying that she knew of a school that was peanut and dairy free because of allergies. I just wonder when the line should be drawn because I haven't ever heard of a child dying at school from exposure to peanuts or dairy. My Son won't be in school for 4 years yet, but I can already picture the many arguments I will have with the school board!

Ashley - posted on 09/16/2009

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here in Ottawa it's been like that since my nephew started school 2 yrs ago. i think its rediculous as well. for halloween last year each child had to bring in a vegetable and they ate that raw. i mean come on it's halloween. let them have a little bit of fun. if they are so worried about the allergy then buy things that say peanut free on the front of them. i know they sent a letter home saying that you are not allowed to bake anything and bring it in for the kids. by the time my kids go to school we prob wont be allowed to make their lunch. they will prob have lunches for them to buy or you will have to give so much amount at the beg of the yr for their lunches so they know what they are eating. i think they are taking it a little too far and i do agree it is getting rediculous. ohhh and Stacey yess the whole happy holidays crap. dont get me started on that subject because that one just royaly pisses me off...lol.....

Stacey - posted on 09/16/2009

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Things are very different from when we went to school. My son is now in grade 3 and his school promotes heathly eating as well. With so many allergies that kids have these days they don't let parents send any food for holidays. Kids can't share any food from their lunch. Teachers and parent can not bring in Tim's coffee in the school as it may have traces of nuts (I know it crazy). My son goes to a public school and he as never dressed up for halloween, the kids can dress in black or orange only. Yes, Christmas is now :Happy Holidays". There is so many rules now.

Diane - posted on 09/16/2009

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I agree this is very extreme, but I must say these mandates are coming from the Government not the local school board. The Boards really have little to no say in this. Also, many people may not realize this but the health and safety regulations around food in school were drastically reformed and tightened late last school year making it virtually impossible for for class parties to be held....anything that is homemade or comes to school out of the package is not allowed to be served at parties or other events as there is no way of tracking whether it was prepared safely. It's just getting way too ridiculous.

As far as what children bring in their own lunchpails from home schools are encouraged to promote healthy eating habits, but they are not allowed to police student lunchpails...with the exception of ensuring nut free lunches and snacks when allergies are present in the classroom or school. For the parent who had the child who was not allowed to eat their own pudding cup I would be taking this up with the school...they are not allowed to do this.

Elsa - posted on 09/16/2009

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wow.. I'm scared at how it's going to be like when my son starts school.. this is ridiculous.. :\

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That is riddiculous!! They're kids. I agree healty eating has it's place but so do treats and snacks. And would someone please explain to me how food from East Side Marios is any better - low fat menu or not. I've been doing some reading and just because something says "low fat" doesn't mean that it's any better for you. Things that claim a low fat label are often high in sodium and/or calories so that it still tastes good. It's not the fat you should be worried about but the calories. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always told that children should NEVER be given low fat, diet etc. products as they need fats, calories, etc. to help their bodies (especially their brains) to develope properly. In my opinion this whole healthy eating thing is way out of control.



Off topic but, Heidi, you mentioned certain holidays being celebrated in the schools. Are your kids in the public or Catholic school board? In the public schools in my area kids are no longer allowed to dress up for Halloween and have to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".

Krista - posted on 09/16/2009

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Uh....hate to break it to them, but the thing that makes pizza a bit healthier is putting veggies on it. Cheese just breaks down into fat and grease.
And I can SORT of understand the treats thing. With so many things hiding hidden allergies (gluten, peanuts, eggs) it's hard for teachers to distinguish whether something is okay for one child and not for another. It's a huge responsibility. My child can do without the treats at school when he goes and he can share his birthday cake with his friends. I actually agree with what they're doing (aside from the cheese pizza, cause that's ridiculous). It isn't just the Americans who have to worry about the obesity rate of the children. We're swiftly closing the gap between them and us. I like that not only am I closely monitoring what my child eats at home, but that I don't have to worry about him shoving his face full of junk when he goes to school.

Jenn - posted on 09/16/2009

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My kids aren't in school yet, but I know my sister said one day she packed a pudding for her son and he wasn't allowed to eat it!

Brandi - posted on 09/16/2009

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i agree i like them eating healthy but the parents should have had a vote in the new changes.

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