Freedom of Religion or Speech - Would you follow this preacher's advice?

Karla - posted on 05/03/2012 ( 8 moms have responded )




Here's the video if you'd like to see it:

And text:

Lawrence O'Donnell laid into Evangelical preacher Sean Harris, whose horrific sermon suggesting parents "punch" their gay-acting children caused public outrage.

Harris urged his congregation to physically respond to when their sons "act girly" or their daughters "act butch." After his sermon raised many eyebrows, Harris told his local paper that he was joking during the sermon. He issued what he called an "official statement of retraction," which O'Donnell read on air during his Wednesday night show.

Harris wrote that he'd like to retract "any and all words that suggest that child abuse is appropriate for any and all types of behaviors including (but not limited to) effeminacy and sexual immorality of all types. I should not have said what I said about "cracking," "punching," and particular bias toward outward attraction of girls. Nor should I have used the words "special dispensation." I did not say that children should be squashed."

O'Donnell replayed lines from Harris' sermon and contrasted his incendiary statements against his retraction. During his sermon, Harris said, "Your little son starts acting a little girlish and instead of squashing that like a cockroach, you take pictures." O'Donnell asked, "Wait - isn't the four-year-old boy you're talking about there the cockroach that should be squashed?"

Sean Harris' statement also included, "I have never suggested children or those in the LGBT lifestyle should be beaten, punched, abused (physically or psychologically) in any form or fashion."

O'Donnell then played a clip from Harris' sermon in which he said, "Dads—the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that limp wrist. Man up. Give them a good punch, okay?"

Harris also said he did not mean to intentionally offend anyone. "What does this man look like when he is trying to offend someone?" O'Donnell asked.

O'Donnell then wondered, "What kind of holy man, what kind of man of God lies about what he has said in a video taped sermon when he is apologizing for what he said in that sermon. He did say that if your son has a limp wrist, you should punch him." O'Donnell later added, "He lies about having said that."

*If Rev. Harris was your preacher, would you follow his advice?

*What would you say to this guy if you thought he would listen to you?

*What are your feelings about preaching this kind of message?

*Is it the preacher's right to preach whatever he wants to, even punching your child?


Johnny - posted on 05/04/2012




I am not concerned in the slightest if my child is gay or not. But I would be very disappointed if my child turned out to be a hateful bigot like this man. I am coming quickly to the conclusion that religion is just an excuse to develop a twisted morality and then claim that it is "God's word."

Tara - posted on 05/04/2012




I would tell him that he is perpetuating violence and hate.
If this were any other religion, if he were any other faith, he would be labeled a cultist.
And in my opinion he is behaving as though he is the leader of a cult.
So many things wrong with this.


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Karla - posted on 05/04/2012




This seems to be the preachers motivating factor

The 2011 General Assembly approved a measure (Session Law 2011-409) that would put language into
the North Carolina Constitution related to legally recognized marriages in the state.
The proposed amendment to Article 14 of the North Carolina Constitution would add a new section, to be called Section 6. It would read as follows:
"Sec. 6. Marriage.
Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts."
The General Assembly also approved the language that voters will see on the ballot this spring as they consider this constitutional amendment:

Constitutional amendment to provide that marriage between one man and one woman is the
only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State.

Is it worth it, Preaching hate to influence the congregation to vote against not just gay marriage but gay unions?
How do you feel about gay marriage, or gay civil unions?

Karla - posted on 05/03/2012




Here's what I would say to Sean Harris if I thought he would listen and understand.

Dear Rev Harris,

Perhaps in your own way you believe you are not preaching hate and violence. I challenge you to imagine being a child again, say 4 or 5 years old, and your dad punches you or "cracks" your hand because of the way you are... because you walk, or run, or hold your hand in a way that makes your dad angry. How do you think that would effect you? Let's just say this doesn't just happen once, but rather you live with it your whole life. How would it effect you?

If you were treated that way growing up, with the very methods you preach in your own "sermon," you would have been shown more abuse then many young people today. These are young people who, even without that harsh treatment, feel so worthless and rejected that they are suicidal. And why? Where do you find any validation for your words? What convoluted interpretation of the Bible are you using for this message? Do you really believe that is what Jesus would do?

I can only suppose you were abused as a child and that is why you are so filled with this distorted interpretation of parental love.

It would be an awful day in this world if we eliminated all the "effeminate" boys and "butch" girls, or tried to beat their behavior out of them. A very sad day indeed. You really need to stop preaching, something is truly wrong with your message; it is not full of God's love, but rather it is full of hate and rejection. It is wrong and disgusting.


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