High FEVERS. HELP!!!

Yasmin - posted on 05/24/2016 ( 29 moms have responded )

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My 7 year old woke up feeling dizzy with head pain and sore throat. Hours later sore throat is gone but dizziness turns to fevers. What is the highest I should allow it to get to before taking high measures meaning ER? Also any remedies would be more than helpful!!! Fever has been going on all day.

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Sarah - posted on 05/25/2016

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If you child has even a fever of 99.0 you can expect some complaints of pain; headache, stiff joints, even saying their skin hurts. My youngest will tell me her hair hurts. That fever slows the body, makes them want to sleep, and will work on the illness at hand. My rule of thumb is; treat only a fever higher than 101.0 AND when child is miserable. If child has a temp of 102, 103 and can sleep and take sips, or ice chips, I let that fever burn. We tend to forget that fevers have a purpose and by treating every little temperature we inhibit the body from protecting itself, and fixing itself. Once a fever has established itself and has hung around for 3+ days, then I generally call the doctor.

Dove - posted on 05/25/2016

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In addition to Sarah's helpful medical advice I will add a bit of personal experience (just w/ the high fever thing). One of my girls hit 105 twice in the same illness. With less clothing, a cool, damp washcloth, and Tylenol we were able to bring it down to around 103. A day or two later we were in the hospital for an unrelated issue and the hospital staff told us that we handled it just fine. If it had not gone down we would have definitely brought her in, but a 103 temp in a child older than toddler has never concerned me much (speaking temp alone and for a short time).

Definitely get an appointment for your child to be seen as soon as you can, but I wouldn't bring him to the ER except in cases like Sarah mentions.

Sarah - posted on 05/25/2016

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Ok, day 2 of high fever. Nurse and mom of four advice: skip pedialyte, it tastes bad and it really is not needed. Chop up popsicles and provide ice chips. If he vomits, nothing not a sip for 1 hour, then after one hour, you give him one teaspoon of popsicle or ice chips every 3-5 minutes, if he vomits, start over; nothing for one hour then one teaspoon at a time. If he hold fluids down for one hour, you can start offering a full popsicle or 3 ounces of water. For fever, if it is 101.0 or higher, you can give him tylenol or motrin (weight based dose) every 4-6 hours as needed for comfort and keeping fever down. If he vomits up the medicine, and remains febrile 101.0 or greater, you can give him one tylenol suppository rectally, he won't care if he is miserable. A fever can go 3-4 days without a doctor evaluating it. If he complains about his throat, you want to rule out strep. Otherwise, GI, ear pain and general achiness will be related to the temp and are likely viral in nature. If he has green thick nasal discharge, then suspect sinus infection. without complaints of pain to low back or pain during urinating, you can assume it is not a UTI. If he becomes so lethargic you cannot rouse him, if he is confused, hallucinates, has a seizure, or stops making pee, or his pee is dark, seek treatment promptly. Hope that helps. Ask more questions if you need too.

ETA also a cool cloth or ice pack to his groin (not his genitals but on each side) can help with the fever. That fever is serving a purpose, it is killing a virus or bacterial infection and it will become apparent soon if he is winning or if the infection is winning. One other thing, if he has a stiff neck and cannot place chin to chest without pain, that is a sign of meningitis, do not wait go to the ER. Some pain is typical with fever. So he may say his neck hurts, but ask him to lower his chin to his chest, if he can fine, if not, go now.

Michelle - posted on 05/25/2016

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Have you given him anything to bring the fever down?
Is he eating and drinking?
Really, if you are ever concerned for someone's health you are better off seeking medical attention, not people on the other side of a computer.
This was posted 6 hours ago so I hope you saw someone.

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Yasmin - posted on 06/01/2016

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So after Sunday he woke up fresh happy and cough free! We are 100 outta the woods. Thank you all... now I'm having sore throat... lol

Sarah - posted on 05/28/2016

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Well I did a bit of everything, started in CCU, moved to a surgical step down unit, then I worked labor and delivery and NICU for years. I was a SAHM for about 9 years before returning to nursing as a school nurse. I NEVER though I would like school nursing, as I pictured myself handing out bandages and ice packs all day. It is challenging and I work with all ages pre-k thru 12th grade and SN students til age 21, I love it! My kid are 19, 17,14 and 12 now (boy, girl, boy, girl)
However, no matter how good a nurse or how smart a doctor, nothing replaces a mother's instinct and experience.

ETA I get much advice from the moms here, on physical emotional and spiritual topics. My first post was about my own son's leg pain and I got great tips for his shin splints.

Yasmin - posted on 05/28/2016

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Thanks sarah!!! Your help is appreciated. What kind of nurse are you if you don't mind me asking?

Sarah - posted on 05/28/2016

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Your posts are no too long nor are they annoying. Sometimes you just need to bounce info off another mom. I call my sisters all the time and I am the only nurse and I have the most kids. When he is sick, like ER sick, you will know. This was a fine example of managing a virus or infection at home. I think the mucinex may have a mild stimulant in it (phenylephrine or similar name) and that may have perked him up. However sick kids generally don't want to eat, so that is a great sign. There are times that the ER staff can do nothing more than IV fluids for a kid. There is no magic wand, medicine or trick to fix him and then you are stuck with a 1500.00 bill and a sick kid. Certainly if he cannot breathe, you cannot wake him, he cannot hold anything down and vomits up everything or he is in so much pain he cannot tolerate it; then you don't worry about the cost and you just go.

Yasmin - posted on 05/28/2016

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I do apologize if my updates are annoying or too long... or if you don't want updates at all.

Yasmin - posted on 05/28/2016

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He woke up with low 99 temp again. Hasn't passed 103 and I switched Motrin for mucinex.. I saw it said cough fever sore throat breaks mucous and chest congestion. Was that a good move? I mean regardless most of today he's been more energetic and he's been eating WONDERFULLY!!! Drinking plenty.. I think we made it. Took his temp about an hour ago.. his temp was 100. You ladies have helped me more than enough and I do understand that if it's time for the ER it's time. I know when too much IS too much. I wouldn't make him go through the horrible feeling if I didn't think I could help him myself. Support means a lot also. My husband works from morning to night so it's literally just my son and I at home and sometimes the replies on here are faster than those from family. So once again THANK YOU. Day 5 today and he seems to be MUCH better... I'm hoping tomorrow fevers will be 100% gone!!!

Sarah - posted on 05/28/2016

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I agree and temperature of fluid or food will not increase throat pain. It may well be the virus causing the symptom. Warm salt water and Motrin 200mg every 2-3 hours will help with the pain. Definitely continue with ice ships and popsicles.

Dove - posted on 05/28/2016

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He should be old enough to try and teach him to gargle w/ very warm salt water. That can help ease some sore throats. I would be concerned w/ him getting worse on the antibiotics... if he's not making improvements by tomorrow you might want to try and get him in somewhere earlier than Tuesday.

Cold drinks should not be causing a sore throat. Cold or hot typically soothe the pain.

Yasmin - posted on 05/28/2016

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Update on my Lil guy:
Fevers are still there coming and going. Sleeping through the night with very low temperature and sweating a lot. Throat hurts a lot more than it did before, has a stuffy nose, lots of phlegm and he's starting a cough.. I'm thinking it's due to all the cold stuff I had him eating/drinking that got it to where it is now :/ we have a follow up apt on tuesday. Anything I can do in the meantime to sooth his throat from that pain? He says it hurts a lot when he swallows. I don't know if continuing with cold drinks and ice chips and such are a good idea anymore...

Jpenney - posted on 05/28/2016

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Please go to the ER immediately if you're not sure. You're here to get advice from people with experience, but doctors have the experience of thousands of people, distilled and learned over 4 years of medical school followed, usually, by 4 to 8 years of internship. They have WAY more experience than any of us could ever have when it comes to medical issues.

Dove - posted on 05/27/2016

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I'm glad the hospital kept him. When my ex's cousin was a very young infant the hospital sent them home w/ a high fever and he suffered permanent and severe brain damage. ♥

Ev - posted on 05/27/2016

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It was because it came on so quickly. We had been out shopping and running errands all day and no sooner than we were home an hour he was crying and screaming and nothing we did soothed him so we took him in. They thought at first he would be in the hospital for weeks and could not tell us anything. Once on the peds floor and in a room, my ex and I took turns staying day and night so one of us could get our daughter off to school. It was a tiring and hard few days though we were under the impression it could be weeks. We also came across another family with a baby that had the same thing and still no idea what or why. Ever since he has been healthy as a horse and rarely sick.

Ev - posted on 05/26/2016

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My son went into the hospital at 3 months of age with nearly 104 temp. He was dehydrated and they never did figure out what was wrong with him after 3 days. He was in IV antibiotics those three days and then gave us more antibiotics to go home with. They thought it might have been meningitis but it was not.

Yasmin - posted on 05/26/2016

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She WAS hesitant about giving it to him BUT she said she had a good feeling and as you ladies said.. She IS the doctor. I'm hoping she gave me the right antibiotic! We will be seeing in a couple days I'm sure... :/ he has been such a little warrior throughout all of this. One broke down once because of how much pain he felt in his joints... my little trooper!
I'm glad I bumped into this page!!! I like it... Helps a lot!!! Thanks ladies!

Dove - posted on 05/26/2016

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I personally would be very hesitant to give antibiotics w/out some sort of diagnosis. If it's viral the antibiotic will be useless. Hope he's feeling better soon though. ♥

Sarah - posted on 05/26/2016

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I am surprised she even wrote for an antibiotic, if there was not obvious bacterial infection. She's the doctor though, I hope he is feeling better soon. We have had lots of kids home from school recently with a similar issue, high fever, vague pain and nothing else.

Yasmin - posted on 05/26/2016

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Took him to the dr. No clue what he had.. poor baby had 3 different tests done and all came back negative. Got sent home with amoxicillan (not sure if I spelled correctly) dr said she wasn't sure what else to do. Not strep not flu no ear infection not mono I think she called it. :/ guess I'm sticking to Motrin and the amox which is helpful enough!

Yasmin - posted on 05/25/2016

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That last comment helped A LOT more than I'd think. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! :)

Yasmin - posted on 05/25/2016

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Thank you both Sarah and Dove. He doesn't complain about anything except a headache here and there. Hasn't gone past 103 in a couple hours. (Not saying it's staying there either. Been going up and down as low as 99) only other thing he complained about was his joints hurting... I'm assuming maybe he's growing? That's what makes more sense than anything else to me.. could be wrong. It was a 20 minute complain type thing than it didn't come up again. Been giving him Popsicles as well. Thanx ladies!

Yasmin - posted on 05/25/2016

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This is day 2. Got to get him an apt with a family members pediatician. Highest fever was 104.7 hasn't gotten up to that since that 1 time. Highest now is 103.4 and thankfully he just ate! Since he ate an hour ago, he hasn't stopped drinking the pedialyte water gatorade and apple juice. I gave him options since he gets a bit stubborn when he's sick. He's alternating but drinking which is good!

Ev - posted on 05/25/2016

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You can not allow this to go on for much longer. What is the temp he is having? Did you know that unless you get him to drink other than the Pedialite he can dehydrate and then land in the hospital?

Yasmin - posted on 05/25/2016

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I can't afford the ER so we waited it out. Dr is on vacation to top it. I now have him switching from Tylenol to Motrin. He isn't eating unless he throws up because he prefers to throw up something rather than choke on nothing. Drinking is same. He isn't drinking much although I AM insisting/forcing as much as possible. Pedialyte is what he's drinking! No other symptoms just vomiting and fever; and vomiting isn't constant or every time he eats the food either. 3 times yesterday 2 today.

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