I have a 5year old son that needs help

Laura - posted on 11/15/2013 ( 8 moms have responded )

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My son is 5, he has always shown SOMEthing "wrong" as he does not seem to have the ability to control his talking, has had sleeping issues from day one, and has very ragey tantrums. He is VERY smart, sweet, and is not "bad" as far as hitting kids in school, or cussing, or being mean, he is very loving, shares and plays well with others, not with drawn in any way, and is very outgoing, he just can not seem to control some impulses once he is stuck on a path HE has chosen (will ask the same question a hundred times before you can answer him, or will continue to ask if he is not satisfied with the answer, etc) you can sit him down and explain to him what and why you are telling him not to do something (you might get hurt, or break it, etc), and before you can finish the explanation he will ask why as he continues to do what you have told him to stop, like you never said a word.
I use to think "maybe it's just ME he does it to"... But his teacher says it, his sister, my husband, and pretty much ANYone that spends more than a few days with him.
We thought it might be ADHD, but teacher says she does NOT think so or see any red flags for it.
Dr finally gave meds to help him GET to sleep about 3months now, as we think it's rest or "the lack there of" related, but he does not STAY asleep more than a couple of hours, which would be ok if it were enough, or he could be left to his own devices, but he does things he KNOWS he's not suppose to and destroys things while we are still asleep.... Uggggh.... We have tried bed time rituals, melatonin, reading to him at bed time, keeping his room bare essential simple to "lessen the tools of destruction", but he will ALWAYS find SOMEthing to use even if it's his nails, a toy, a large splinter to carve in the wood of his dresser.... ANYthing....
I'm looking for the best herbal sleep aide, something to calm him, and help him focus that can either replace the colonadine the dr prescribed, or be safe to take with it.
PLEASE HELP US?????!!!!!!

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Laura - posted on 11/18/2013

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Will DEFINATELY give it a try for sure! Thank you ;)

The past few nights I have tried a combo of calcium lactate, his normal colonidine, and rubbing his legs and feet with a lavander almond oil, and he has slept thru the night.
I am going to lessen his dose of colonidine to eventually take him off it all together if I can find a good herbal ritual that works, introducing and weaning on the week ends so it doesn't disrupt school nights ;)

Courtney - posted on 11/18/2013

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I havent read through the other comments but my 8yr old aon had the same issues with sleep even as a baby and ill swear by this forever bc it works and my friends that have had this issue agree strongly but chamomile tea! Works like a champ...i use two tea bags and a lil sugar to rid of the nasty like taste bt now they have "Sleepytime Chamomile"tea in grape and he lovessss it! Anyway its def.worth a shot and isnt harmful ..best of luck:-)

Laura - posted on 11/16/2013

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Thank you. I totally agree, and will surely add that to the list of research.
I have started to pay closer attention to our diet the past couple of years, I think we at least are able to make better choices, but as it is very expensive to eat healthy, we are concentrating on a large garden, and preparing for some livestock to at least know where our food is coming from, and cut down on all the nasty additives, etc.

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A lot of what you're saying sounds like my son who has Sensory Processing Disorder. I'm not trying to diagnose your son here, because what you've said also sounds characteristic of every child I've known with ADHD, but if the school feels it's NOT ADHD, then SPD is just one more possibility that you could research and see if the symptoms fit, then ask for a professional evaluation to diagnose or rule it out. But honestly, these characteristics sound just like what I hear other moms in my support groups describe in their kids who have a variety of different conditions: ADHD, sensory disorders, OCD, anxiety disorders, even food allergies and/or sensitivities (most commonly it is gluten, dairy, eggs, and dyes and preservatives that will cause these types of behaviors). So there are a great many things you could look into and start researching to start ruling things out or finding answers. Regardless, a growing 5 year old's body requires a certain amount of sleep and should naturally seek the amount they need. Anytime a child is not sleeping like they should, there is a definitive reason their body is not doing what it should. I would ask your pediatrician about the possibility of a sleep study to find out if he has sleep apnea or anything else that is causing the sleep disturbance.

Laura - posted on 11/16/2013

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Awesome, I just picked some up yesterday as a matter of fact. Looking forward to seeing the results. Thank you

Firebird - posted on 11/16/2013

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Try to get some lavender essential oil... the real stuff - not imitation. Place a few drops on the under side of your son's pillow, the actual pillow, not the pillowcase. This is what I do to help my daughter sleep as lavender has natural calming effects. You can also put a few drops on some tissue and place the randomly around your house to help with calming your son, these will need to be replace once the scent wears off as will the oil under his pillow. My daughter has Autism so she can get pretty off the wall sometimes and since I've started using the lavender, she screams less and falls asleep faster on the nights that she's having trouble.

Laura - posted on 11/16/2013

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Certainly sounds reasonable, thank you.
He does monitor his blood pressure, to "watch for side effect".
When we first started talking about what to give him that is mild to start with, he told me that it is normally used for ADHD as a first try as it is so mild, but he does not like it FOR ADHD, rather as a mild sleep aide as long as his blood pressure does not drop, and he doesn't "wake up like he has a hang over". But was perfectly clear that this was a first step rather than something we would just up the dose on.
Do you know of any other herbal solutions that might promote sleep rather than a "medication", or a safe medication for a child we could look into?

Firebird - posted on 11/16/2013

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I assume you mean Clonidine. Do you know what it does? It reduces a person's blood pressure and is not FDA approved to be used for anything other than that. Some doctors will prescribe it for other uses even though the 'evidence' for many of those off-label uses consists of only a few studies that are too small or that have other shortcomings which prevents making a clear recommendation. Where the evidence is sufficient to support its use, clonidine is generally recommended as a second-choice or additional medication when preferred treatments aren't effective or can't be used. Which explains why it isn't working. I'd suggest taking your son to a new doctor and getting a referral for a proper behavioural assessment.

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