Ideas on turning a breech baby

Amber - posted on 09/29/2009 ( 44 moms have responded )

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I was just wandering if there were any ways to encourage a breech baby to turn around.

I was breech when I was born and apparently my baby is more likely to be the same.

In NZ they prefer to do a C-section on breech babys and I really dont want that!



Thanks for your help!

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Lynda - posted on 10/01/2009

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Next time baby is in an active phase lie on your left side and draw your knees up as close to you abdomen as you can. the smaller space in your pelvis makes it uncomfortable and baby will sometimes turn spontaneously.

Julie - posted on 10/01/2009

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I used an inversion table (a slant board could be used instead). My husband helped me set it so that my head was slightly lower than my feet... as low as I could stand it. I laid on the table like that for about twenty minutes a day for a couple of weeks.

It seemed to work... my daughter had turned by the 38th week.

Cari - posted on 10/01/2009

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I had a prenatal water aerobics instructor suggest surface dives in a swimming pool. the doctor suspected my son was breech. Surface dives are like snorkeling and swimming to the bottom of the pool (or as deep as you can go). I did that several times one day and when I went back in for my sonogram the baby was head down.

Tara - posted on 09/30/2009

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I dont know if this had been said but get on your hands and knees. That helps to give more room for baby to turn! Good Luck.

Justine - posted on 09/30/2009

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another ps... sorry! just to encourage you about a c-section. I had a shocking labour (dd was posterior even tho she'd turned from breech & I didn't know there were things I could do to turn her). I would say it took 3 months before I could sit comfortably and 6-8 months before I could have intercourse. I'm not saying this to give you a horror story (it was definitely worth it :) ), but just to say it's all relative - I'm positive that a caesar would have led to a MUCH faster & more controlled recovery. So there's always another twist in the story. Don't be scared of the caesar debate. natural can have its drawbacks too.

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Linda - posted on 07/07/2011

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my baby is breech and the dr wants me to go to this dr to try and turn him around. can someone help me and let me no if it is worth it or just have a C-section i want to know how they do it and will it harm my son..

Deborah - posted on 10/10/2009

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When I was pregnant my daughter was transverse for a long time. Eventually she flipped head down but was facing forward (not the ideal position). So, during the last

3 weeks or so I went 2 to 3 times a week to my chiropractor who knew a technique working around the sacral area (the large bony plate at the base of the spine - starting just above the hips). He did very gentle manipulations & applied light pressure across all the area. At any rate apparently it worked because she moved into the correct position for the birth. I also took a tincture (liquid) supplement called Mother's Cordial that was made up of herbs to help tonify the uterus, for productive contractions as I was 40 when I gave birth & didn't want to take any chances!



It still wasn't an easy labor & delivery, but I had a successful home birth with our midwives! I was told by them that had I given birth in a hospital that a doctor would have given me a c-section, so I was thrilled that they were prepared to do what it took to bring my daughter safely into the world.



Good luck to you for a safe & easy birth for both you & your baby.

Heather - posted on 10/03/2009

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When I had my daughter, my mother was there for me. She happens to be a maternity nurse. She told me to get on my hands and knees and the baby was able to flip herself to the right position saving me from a C-section. Good luck!

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Wow, Amber, your post reminds me so much of my first pregnancy. My son was frank breech and I tried everything I could to turn him back but to no avail..one thing I didn't try was acupuncture, and I've heard very good things about it. I've done acupuncture since for other reasons, and I find it very relaxing and healing. My son was born c-section, and at the time I was so very upset about it. He's 5 now, and he is going to an alternative school because he's so very different, has been all his life. I'm not upset about it anymore, because I saw that it all makes sense, his way of being now, so unique, self-directed, smart, stubborn...I read somewhere that breech babies are breech for a reason, and after 5+ years, I finally get what they meant!

Kristy Lee - posted on 10/01/2009

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i had a specialest actually turn bub around with his own hand, by gently moving the bub around by placing his hands on my tummy, it was uncomftable but worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he was born a week later :)

Sophi - posted on 10/01/2009

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what ever you do make sure bub isn't that way for a reason. my bub was breech & i did all the exercises, nothing worked. at night i could feel her trying to turn & her lil legs kicking in frustration as she couldn't do it. so i knew she wanted too but couldn't, i decided not to let the doctor try & turn her as i was sure there was a reason for her to be like that. the doc & midwife both looked down apon me when i wouldn't even let him try to turn her. i didn't care i had to trust myself. anyway as it turned out if she had been turned or i gave birth naturally we both could have died as the cord was short & only attached to the membrane sack that surrounds the placenta. be careful.

Beth - posted on 10/01/2009

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My Chiropractor has had success with turning bubs. She also suggested getting on hands and knees and do something like scrubbing the floor (as if you'd feel like it right now) the position and the movement should help.

Justine - posted on 09/30/2009

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ps - just noted the conversation above. there's a fantastic book called "birth by appointment" if you do end up having to have a c-section. Also, if you do, make sure you negotiate with your hospital if you want your baby with you in recovery etc... If you know, you can have a plan for how you want it to be. All the best!

Justine - posted on 09/30/2009

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hey there! I had a breech baby, who the ob was sure wasn't going to turn! But she did very late (I'd had my caesar booked & all - same in Australia. It is safer so be assured a c-section is a good recommendation).
I duck-dived at the pool & spent a lot of time with my head down & backside up. Sometimes I did this lying on the couch on my back with lots of pillows under my butt & my legs hanging over the arm of the couch. Sometimes I was down leaning on my elbows with pillows under my tummy.
The old wives tale is that you should start scrubbing the floors!!!
You can also go see a chiropracter - there are some adjustments that can help in this situation.
hope this helps!

Diane - posted on 09/30/2009

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The doctor had me lie on the sofa with my feet on the back of it and my head hanging down to the floor. I had to do this several times a day for about half hour. Basically you are lying upside down I guess. I did this for about a week or so before I was due. Strange but it worked.

Leanne - posted on 09/30/2009

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Quoting Deirdre:



Quoting Leanne:

All of the above sound like worthwhile ideas. Both my babies were born by c-section due to pre-eclampsia. Although i would have preferred a natural birth the c-section is not that bad and at the end of it I had two healthy babies and that is the most important thing.
Best wishes





I know Leanne's c-sections were necessary but I have to say that I've had a natural birth and a c-section and the c-section IS THAT BAD; it's major abdominal surgery.  My c-section was necessary and I am slowly coming to terms with it but I would have preferred a vaginal delivery.  If you can avoid a c-section I'd do my best to do so.  This is all opinion but I prefer vaginal delivery to a c-section for the following reasons:






Less recovery time (with vaginal delivery in general)






Mobility issues (increased with c-section)






Possibility of infection (from c-section)






I personally do not like hospitals especially for a newborn baby






Your birth plan goes out the window (with c-section-mine did anyway)






My son was very congested for over a year (c-section) I believe because he didn't get his "squeeze" (if it were vaginal)






You have to stay in the hospital (C-section); my 1st child was born at Maternity Center and we went home 4-hrs later (I was so energized that I wanted to go home right after; but there is a 4-hour minimum for monitoring)






The drugs are horrible with a c-section; I felt like I was under water and in a haze for the first two days - that was horrible






Bonding with my second child was delayed (probably because of the feelings of dissapoinment and anger bec of the c-section)






Oh and sneezing and all the other stuff you discover that you use your abdominal muscles to do when you have an incision that is healing is no fun at all.






So if you HAVE to have one then I'd work on coming to terms with it beforehand and do my best to ensure bonding and connecting with baby as soon after delivery as possible.  Good luck.






 






 






Hi again



not trying to turn this into a natural vs c-section debate but just thought you might want to hear some other sides of the story:



I had no problems bonding with either of my daughters after their c-section births and both births were calm, relaxed and the happiest days of my life. Yes it is a major operation but it is still giving birth and my wonderful obstetrician and all the other fantastic staff made it the special moment it should be.



Neither of my daughters suffered any medical issues due to or after their births and both breast feed well.



My recovery was minimal, I have had friends who have had natural births who due to tearing, very long labours etc.. have had much worse and longer recovery times than i did.



The only problems that i have had is with other mums assuming i must be dissapointed ior traumatised in having had a c-section rather than natural. I am not sure how you can be dissapointed by having a healthy baby but I guess i am a fairly positive person and dont dwell on the what ifs.. or if only....



I should mention that I am not pro c-section as such...I would have preferred natural births but when it comes down to yours and the babies health that should be the most important consideration and c-sections are in my opinion and experience a safe and enjoyable way to give birth.



Just remember at the end of it you have a beautiful baby, it is the end result not the process that matters.



Enjoy your little miracle

Julie - posted on 09/30/2009

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When I was pregnant and the baby was in a breech position, the doctor had me lie on the floor and put my hips on a stack of pillows to they were about 12 inches above my shoulders. Not very comfortable! But it was to allow gravity to help the baby turn. He also tried to manually help turn the baby. Finally, after doing this for about a month, she turned.

Leanne - posted on 09/30/2009

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Quoting Deirdre:



Quoting Leanne:

All of the above sound like worthwhile ideas. Both my babies were born by c-section due to pre-eclampsia. Although i would have preferred a natural birth the c-section is not that bad and at the end of it I had two healthy babies and that is the most important thing.
Best wishes





I know Leanne's c-sections were necessary but I have to say that I've had a natural birth and a c-section and the c-section IS THAT BAD; it's major abdominal surgery.  My c-section was necessary and I am slowly coming to terms with it but I would have preferred a vaginal delivery.  If you can avoid a c-section I'd do my best to do so.  This is all opinion but I prefer vaginal delivery to a c-section for the following reasons:






Less recovery time (with vaginal delivery in general)






Mobility issues (increased with c-section)






Possibility of infection (from c-section)






I personally do not like hospitals especially for a newborn baby






Your birth plan goes out the window (with c-section-mine did anyway)






My son was very congested for over a year (c-section) I believe because he didn't get his "squeeze" (if it were vaginal)






You have to stay in the hospital (C-section); my 1st child was born at Maternity Center and we went home 4-hrs later (I was so energized that I wanted to go home right after; but there is a 4-hour minimum for monitoring)






The drugs are horrible with a c-section; I felt like I was under water and in a haze for the first two days - that was horrible






Bonding with my second child was delayed (probably because of the feelings of dissapoinment and anger bec of the c-section)






Oh and sneezing and all the other stuff you discover that you use your abdominal muscles to do when you have an incision that is healing is no fun at all.






So if you HAVE to have one then I'd work on coming to terms with it beforehand and do my best to ensure bonding and connecting with baby as soon after delivery as possible.  Good luck.






 






 






Hi again



not trying to turn this into a natural vs c-section debate but just thought you might want to hear some other sides of the story:



I had no problems bonding with either of my daughters after their c-section births and both births were calm, relaxed and the happiest days of my life. Yes it is a major operation but it is still giving birth and my wonderful obstetrician and all the other fantastic staff made it the special moment it should be.



Neither of my daughters suffered any medical issues due to or after their births and both breast feed well.



My recovery was minimal, I have had friends who have had natural births who due to tearing, very long labours etc.. have had much worse and longer recovery times than i did.



The only problems that i have had is with other mums assuming i must be dissapointed ior traumatised in having had a c-section rather than natural. I am not sure how you can be dissapointed by having a healthy baby but I guess i am a fairly positive person and dont dwell on the what ifs.. or if only....



I should mention that I am not pro c-section as such...I would have preferred natural births but when it comes down to yours and the babies health that should be the most important consideration and c-sections are in my opinion and experience a safe and enjoyable way to give birth.



Just remember at the end of it you have a beautiful baby, it is the end result not the process that matters.



Enjoy your little miracle

Monique - posted on 09/30/2009

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My daughter is now 5 months old and I was in this situation. We also live in NZ! It really depends on each individual. I tried every position and trick but nothing made her turn. For me the key was having a really great and supportive midwife who had experience and confidence dealing with breech pregnancy. I really wanted to avoid having a C-section unless needed, and my pregnancy was perfect otherwise so I didnt see it as a "complication". The doctor I saw at the hospital was very negative towards the idea of me trying to give birth natrually, wanting me to book in for a C-section but I felt very strongly that I would make my own decisions and listen to my body and baby. I read as much information I could find about breech birth, turning babies and C-section's making sure I understood every possible outcome. That way I knew that I could deal with whatever was thrown at me, as there are few births that go as planned at the best of times. When I went into labour my midwife allowed me to stay at home as long as I felt comfortable, checking regularly on me and the baby, (I of course would do whatever I had to do the second the baby showed any distress). Unfortunatley with regular contractions and the waters breaking there was no movement of bubbs so eventually I made the call to go to the hospital where I could get a mild epidural in, again my midwife explained my options and allowed me to decide what and when to do anything. She didnt rush me and at the hospital we still waited for a bit to see if the baby would make a move which she didnt. So in the end my option was for the C-section which went well and baby was born safely. I felt so positive about the whole birth experience as I felt like I knew what I was doing each step of the way and was in control. The only really important thing is for the baby to be born safely at the end of the day. Also I think that being prepared for the worst case scenario helped as the epidural and C-section weren't nearly as scary or bad as I expected. Best of luck and stay strong! Keep informed and have lots of supportive people around you!

Renee - posted on 09/30/2009

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I had plans for a totally intervention free delivery, then, my son turned breech at 32 weeks. We tried everything to get him turned around. It turned out he was stuck pretty good (big baby, small momma) and the c-section was necessary. My Dr. allowed me to go into labor naturally before the section. As long as there are no other medical issues other than the baby being breech, ask if this is an option. The short time I was in labor allowed Nate to get the advantages of the squeezing to clear his lungs. I was also comforted by the idea that my body and my baby decided when it was time for delivery. Do take some time to come to terms with the idea now, it will make the process and recovery much easier on you. If the end result is a healthy baby, anything is worth it. Best of luck!

Kristi - posted on 09/30/2009

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Depending on how many weeks you are, acupuncture very successfully turns a breech baby. You just need to find someone who is experienced.

Amanda - posted on 09/30/2009

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I wanted to have an all natural birth but my baby was breech also. My Dr. said that some Dr.'s will try to turn the baby but it is risky and does not work alot of the time so it's not worth the risk. I ended up having a c-section. In end it was the best option because we found during the c-section my baby had a very short umbilical cord and if she would have turned it would have pulled off the placenta and I would have ended up having an emergency c-section. My experience was not bad at all. I felt nothing during the c-section and yes the recovery time is longer but not as bad as I've heard others say it is. I think the Dr. makes all the difference. I have a great one so my experience was very good. Hope this helps.

Deirdre - posted on 09/30/2009

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Quoting Leanne:

All of the above sound like worthwhile ideas. Both my babies were born by c-section due to pre-eclampsia. Although i would have preferred a natural birth the c-section is not that bad and at the end of it I had two healthy babies and that is the most important thing.
Best wishes


I know Leanne's c-sections were necessary but I have to say that I've had a natural birth and a c-section and the c-section IS THAT BAD; it's major abdominal surgery.  My c-section was necessary and I am slowly coming to terms with it but I would have preferred a vaginal delivery.  If you can avoid a c-section I'd do my best to do so.  This is all opinion but I prefer vaginal delivery to a c-section for the following reasons:



Less recovery time (with vaginal delivery in general)



Mobility issues (increased with c-section)



Possibility of infection (from c-section)



I personally do not like hospitals especially for a newborn baby



Your birth plan goes out the window (with c-section-mine did anyway)



My son was very congested for over a year (c-section) I believe because he didn't get his "squeeze" (if it were vaginal)



You have to stay in the hospital (C-section); my 1st child was born at Maternity Center and we went home 4-hrs later (I was so energized that I wanted to go home right after; but there is a 4-hour minimum for monitoring)



The drugs are horrible with a c-section; I felt like I was under water and in a haze for the first two days - that was horrible



Bonding with my second child was delayed (probably because of the feelings of dissapoinment and anger bec of the c-section)



Oh and sneezing and all the other stuff you discover that you use your abdominal muscles to do when you have an incision that is healing is no fun at all.



So if you HAVE to have one then I'd work on coming to terms with it beforehand and do my best to ensure bonding and connecting with baby as soon after delivery as possible.  Good luck.



 



 

SARA - posted on 09/30/2009

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Hi Amber,

My baby Jayden was born in January of this year, he was in the Frank Breech position, meaning he had his legs over his head, he was like this for the whole pregnancy. I had frequent scans to check his position and did all the exercises under the sun to try to move him like all the ladies below have mentioned and he didnt move a bit! He was eventually delivered via a difficult C section much to my disappointment at 38 weeks as the doctors didnt want me to go into labour naturally. Before that i was offered whats called an ECV, External Cephalic Version, you may have heard of it. it where they monitor the baby while trying to turn him externally by pushing and manipulating your belly. i did a lot of research as it is a little controversial, has varying success rates and can be painful. For a frank breech baby the success rate is apparently less than 30% so i opted not to go ahead with it, but a friend of mine had one for a normal breech and it was successful and turned her baby ready for a normal delivery. At the very least it is something to think about and talk to your doctor about at the most it may be able to give you the delivery you want. all the best.

Jayne - posted on 09/30/2009

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Hi Amber, not sure what your obstetric policies are in NZ but in the uk a woman is offered an ECV around 38 weeks gestation (External Cephalic Version), which is where a very experienced obstetrician will physically turn your baby by pushing your baby around, you are constantly scanned to ensure yours and baby's safety, mostly it works, but occassionaly a baby is determined to remain in a breech presentation or sometimes turns back! There is also Moxibustion. Traditional Chinese medicine uses moxibustion (burning herbs to stimulate acupuncture points) of acupoint BL 67 located beside the outer corner of the fifth toenail, its effect may be through increasing fetal activity. I have observed both these version with positive experiences and both mum and baby well foloowing a normal vaginal delivery. Hope this helps.

Juli - posted on 09/30/2009

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I was told my daughter was breach from about 30 weeks, but they were never totally sure, she was head down by 38 weeks when I got a scan.
I tried lots of things as I was determined not to get a section like handstands and forward rolls in the swimming pool, sitting for ages with my legs and bottom in the air. But I think what moved my daughter was shining a tourch at the bottom of my bump. When I did that I felt an awful lot of movement.

Leanne - posted on 09/30/2009

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All of the above sound like worthwhile ideas. Both my babies were born by c-section due to pre-eclampsia. Although i would have preferred a natural birth the c-section is not that bad and at the end of it I had two healthy babies and that is the most important thing.

Best wishes

SHAMISO - posted on 09/30/2009

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ice may help..i have heard it does wonders...but Jesus is the only answer to any question.

Mags - posted on 09/30/2009

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I used the icepack idea for my baby when she was breech. To make doubly sure, I put a hot water bottle down where her feet were. Baby is supposed to turn its head away from the cold and move towards the heat source. I thought it was mad but was willing to try anything. She did turn but I'm not sure if it was because of this or not. Worth a try!

Sabrina - posted on 09/30/2009

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they really do respond to ice...i worked in L&D for some time. Seen it done. Exernal version may also be an option...ask ur MD and if they recomend a C ----- do whats safe, they can see all kinds of stuff on ultrasound.

Kate - posted on 09/30/2009

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aparently handstands in a pool helps. my first bub was breech but the umbilical chord was attached to the side (instead of the centre) of the placenta so we didn't want to force her to turn back around incase it detatched. good luck!

Melanie - posted on 09/29/2009

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During my second pregnancy my son refused to turn over. Someone told me to put an icepack on the top of my belly and he would turn just to get away from it. Donno if it helped but the day we went to do the external version (have a dr push on my belly to turn the baby) the baby had turned on his own the night before.

It might just be a wives tale but it is the only thing i can remember doing for turning him.....I guess it worked cuz now he will watch TV in a headstand on the couch. :)

Karla - posted on 09/29/2009

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Go to Spinningbabies.com! I know the name sounds rather off putting but the information on that website is priceless! I've had several friends use it with great success and it was also recommended to me by my midwife because my first child was breech.

Amber - posted on 09/29/2009

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Thanks for the ideas... I've been sitting on a gym ball instead of the sofa.

I've still got a good few weeks to go, so hopefully these exersises will persuade the baby to go head first!

Pippa - posted on 09/29/2009

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i have 1 idea for you GOOD LUCK!!!!! my son was breach and it HURT LIKE HELL he was tryin 2 cum out my bum nearly did hurt like all the pain in the world.

GOOD LUCK sweetie

Jodie - posted on 09/29/2009

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well good luck....

i think it all deprnd on the baby...

my baby was stubburn, she even had her legs in a split like position.

Mel - posted on 09/29/2009

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we covered this in the ante natal class today

get on a birthing ball (gym ball) and start wiggling your hips back and forth in a seated postion

or go onto all 4 or hug the birthin ball and wiggle you bottom



well apparantly!

Jodie - posted on 09/29/2009

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My daughter was breech, and they took her but before they did they told me to do an exercise for a week. It didnt work for me but you could try it.



I was instructed to get on all fours and then bend my my elbows and lean forward. then go back up to all fours and straighten my legs out so that im leaning front words....and she told me to just keep doing that everyday...



Goodluck!

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