Intro for new PRO-spanking mom

Beth - posted on 12/28/2015 ( 58 moms have responded )

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Hi All, Beth here, 35 year old, single & PRO-spanking mom with 3 girls that believes strongly in this. Happy to share, listen to and communicate with other moms that feel the same way. sternmom1980@ gmail.com :-) Thanks and hope to hear from some of you! B

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Oh, that isn't an insult or name calling? Calling someone crazy? Settle down. Locking this thread and another Mod can review later.

Dove - posted on 12/30/2015

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And kids act like jerks sometimes. I love my kids like crazy, but you'd better believe my 14 year old twins act like jerks to each other... a lot. Me saying that does NOT mean I think my kids ARE jerks. lol They're actually awesome kids....

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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YOU American women have been out of line every time you name called me. Do you realize that?

Jodi - posted on 12/29/2015

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I will never understand someone calling themselves pro-spanking. This to me means you are in favour of spanking as the main form of discipline in your home. I could probably understand more if you came on here and introduced yourself and also stated that yes, you sometimes spank your children, but calling yourself pro-spanking (with PRO in uppercase, so major emphasis there) indicates you don't have too many tools in your toolbox with regard to raising your kids. Choosing to hit your children as your "go to" response to poor choices is really not particularly effective, especially as they get older.

Dove - posted on 12/30/2015

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lol Anger management lady... it's a beautiful thing. I did NOT actually CALL them anything... I made an assumption based on your words... so you are saying that you DID spank them a lot? Because if you didn't spank them a lot then they must not have been acting like jerks much at all...

Based on my words you think I was calling them jerks... which logically means you spanked them a lot? Huh....

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American - posted on 12/30/2015

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DOVE......YOU ARE A CUNT. HOW'S THAT FOR NAME CALLIN YOU OLD WRINKLED BAG OF SHIT. YOU DAMN RIGHT ANGER MANAGEMENT WHEN YOU ATTACK MY KIDS. YOU WANNA ATTACK KIDS WE CAN DO THAT CAUSE I'M SURE WITH A MOM LIKE YOU THEY HAVE ALL GROWN UP TO BE PIECES OF SHIT.WORTHLESS MEMBERS OF SOCIETY WHO SIT BACK AND COLLECT GOVERNMENT BENEFITS ON WHICH THEY SPEND ON CRACK. SHUT THIS THREAD DOWN CUNT CAUSE I JUST OPEN ANOTHER ONE. GANG UP ON PEOPLE AND THROW YOUR WEIGHT AROUND LIKE BEING A VOLUNTEER MOD ON COM HAS MADE YOU BIG SHIT. YOU TWO ARE BULLIES AND CAN SUCK MY BIG FAT DICK. HOW'S THAT SUIT YA

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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ALL I SAID WAS IN MY OPINION YOU WERE CRAZY. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT AND CAN'T BELIEVE CIRCLE OF MOMS ALLOWS YOU TO CALL PEOPLES KIDS NAMES. WOW NOT THE SITE I THOUGHT IT WAS.AND YES DOVE YOU DID CALL THEM LITTLE JERKS. AND ONCE AGAIN I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME HOW I THREATENED YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. YOU TWO ARE BULLIES WHO GANG UP AND ATTACK PEOPLES KIDS. WAY TO REPRESENT COM

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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But it is ok for you to name call? She didn't attack anyones kids. You change every one of your posts that you called me names, and Dove can change her wording. Better??? Or I can just delete this entire thread. What would make YOU happy American women, since you are the only one that matters here?

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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SO SHE JUST GETS TO ATTACK PEOPLES KIDS AND A MOD THINKS ITS OKAY.WOW WHAT A SITE TO BE A MEMBER OF. I NEVER ATTACKED OR CALLED ANYONE'S KIDS A NAME. WHO IS ANOTHER MOD I CAN GO TO.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Listen, Dove did nothing less than what you have done to me this entire thread. Once again, If I delete her posts, I have to delete every one of yours that you name called. Why is it ok for you to call names but not someone else? You have been way out of line calling me names this whole time. I haven't done a thing about that have I?

Dove - posted on 12/30/2015

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I wasn't attacking them and didn't actual say they WERE jerks... I was making an assumption based on what you were saying, but between this post and your other one... I don't think I have to assume anything anymore. I've got the answers I was looking for.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Dove.......you have no right to call my kids names. You are out of line big time. My son is a very respectful young man and I am proud to be his mom. MY KIDS ARE NOT LITTLE JERKS. YOU ARE WAY OUT OF LINE AND THEY BEST DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT MODS FRIEND OR NOT IT WAS UNCALLED FOR.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Nope I don't. Since you have continued to call me crazy, I would have to delete all your posts also. It is a conflict of interest for me at this point and another mod can evaluate and decide what to do. See, I don't abuse my volunteered "power" unless something is crucially wrong. Dove did nothing less than what you have done.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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I have already answered you. I am not repeating myself. Go read through the posts.

No, I don't hit adults. I have never gotten into a physical altercation with another adult aside from my sister when I was 18 and she went after me, and I STILL didn't hit her, but would have defended myself if she did.

If you don't hit adults for doing wrong, then why hit a defenseless kid for being a kid? High expectations much to much? Hitting your kids doesn't solved anything, and you have still not proved that it does.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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In my opinion you are crazy and since your a MOD. Wanna do something about Dove calling my kids little jerks. Didn't think someone would personally attack my children.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Oh there is the dear dove.......hardly spanked but did if needed and real big woman calling someone's kids jerks. Snaps for that one. Your a mature one.

Dove - posted on 12/30/2015

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Actually... giving him back the slingshot at all makes you responsible for the fact that he hit his brother w/ it. He proved he wasn't capable of handling the weapon and you still let him have it.

My almost 8 year old son is a great kid and would never intentionally hurt anyone... but there's no way in hell I'd give him a slingshot. lol

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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And I only hit if I get hit first. Don't care who it is. Co-workers, adults in general.Say all you want but if you touch me I am gonna bounce. How about you? Hit adults?Ever even been in a fight? What exactly did I say that was a threat? How bout some answers.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Actually you resolved it perfectly without hitting your son. You took away the weapon, and made him apologize. He never did it again. Maybe you should not have given it back period. That would have saved future issues, and you have NO idea if spanking him would have stopped him from doing it to his brother, you are ASSuming.

Also, yes you have called me names. Crazy seems to be at the top of your list for go to name calling.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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I didn't specify whose kid pushed who I was just giving an example. Sorry if you took it personal. I wasn't name calling just stating my opinion and I have the right to do that. As far as me giving a good reason to spank I don't have to but I will.......kids are in back yard playing and my son had a sling shot (he was around 8) and he had been taught how to use it properly and had many times target shot it with his dad. Okay so he had been "taught" all the safety rules and proper use of it. So I get a knock at my door and this man is standing there holding his neck. He said my son had shot a rock through his car window and hit him in the neck. My first reaction was not my son are you sure there are several kids back there. He had been taught and talked to about this so guess what.....dad gets home and I tell him what happened and he immediately wanted to spank him but I told him that was inappropriate because it had happened way earlier so dad put him in the car and drove to man's house to have my son apologize again. Now he should have been spanked for that by me but I was in such shock that I just took his sling shot away and sent his friends home. Now he never shot it at a car driving down the road again but had I busted his bum he wouldn't have shot it at his little brother later on.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Dove, often times I find that people who spank their kids have to defend it because they realize hitting is mean. But, they hit when their kids do something wrong. So hitting someone, anyone when they do something is wrong is the correct way to solve things in that persons eyes. Violence begets violence.....which leads to making others bleed. But if it is on accident, it really was intentional. Did I clarify it for you?

Dove - posted on 12/30/2015

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Wow... your kids purposely make other kids bleed?! Does that happen a lot? If you only spank for running into the road or for purposely making other kids bleed... either you have barely every spanked your children... or they MUST ACT LIKE wild, abusive, little jerks.

Edited to add the 'must act like' because apparently people can't comprehend that I wasn't calling innocent children names... even though I attempted to clarify that repeatedly. @@ lol

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Now, let's see if YOU will answer my previous questions, without name calling please

" if you were in an argument with an adult, would you hit them when they were saying the wrong things? Why not? Do you hit your co-workers when they mess up? Show up late? Why not?"

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Here is a definition of accident
ac·ci·dent
ˈaksədənt/
noun
noun: accident; plural noun: accidents

1.
an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
"he had an accident at the factory"
synonyms: mishap, misadventure, unfortunate incident, mischance, misfortune, disaster, tragedy, catastrophe, calamity; technicalcasualty
"an accident at work"
a crash involving road or other vehicles, typically one that causes serious damage or injury.
"four people were killed in a car accident"
synonyms: crash, collision, smash, bump, car crash; More
wreck;
informalsmash-up, pileup, fender bender
"she was injured in a highway accident"
informal
used euphemistically to refer to an incidence of incontinence, typically by a child or an animal.
2.
an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.
"the pregnancy was an accident"

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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"You need to understand one thing ......accidents are incidents caused by carelessness so if he pushed her off a chair because he was "accidentally" wanting that chair then yes he would have got his little ads busted. Is that clear enough?"

Actually your point is completely off since that isn't what happened. And if he PUSHED her off a chair, that wouldn't be and accident would it? In fact that would be intentional maybe not knowing in advance the end result, but still intentional which is NOT the definition of an accident.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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That's right, I think people who hit their kids are wrong. You think people who DON'T hit their kids are wrong.

Not twisting your words at all, actually quoting you directly.

Using my mod powers huh? I guess that is why I haven't deleted ANY of your posts that were direct personal attacks on me? Haven't said anything about being a MOD since the first post telling the OP it was dangerous disclosing personal information. How rude of me trying to protect members from spammers! I am awful.

And to clarify, you have not ONCE given a valid reason to hit your child, or for others to start. Period. Your argument has not been validated. You want to name call? That is fine. Have at it if it makes you feel better or superior. I am the one trying to stay on topic, you keep trying to make it personal.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Okay exactly when did I ever threaten anyone cause I said several times I did not. That is what you ASSumed never what I said so prove it nut. You need to understand one thing ......accidents are incidents caused by carelessness so if he pushed her off a chair because he was "accidentally" wanting that chair then yes he would have got his little ads busted. Is that clear enough?

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Like I said in my opinion you are one crazy person. You think turning people words around makes you right but it just shows your inability to comprehend. So here yago again trying to flex the mod thing when you yourself are doing it. You like to attack people and play I so innocent. Well let's just all assume you are perfect (which your not or you would be on the throne with God) and your kids never get into squabbles and little fights with their classmates so you really don't have much to worry about being your a perfect parent.And that is my opinion.this is about pro spanking and face it lady you don't believe in it so you think everyone who does is wrong. That fine but you cant get all twisted about it when your wrong.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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".I spanked my kids for purposely making another child bleed. There is that easier for you to understand. And there really is no such thing as accidental because accidents are caused by carelessness"


Sooooooo......in the way you think, I SHOULD have spanked him? Cause, accidents aren't really on accident? It was unintentionally intentional? I don't get your way of thinking. Either it was an accident (unintentional) or intentional. Which would you have spanked for because in your train of thought above, there are no accidents, and you would have spanked for carelessness?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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You can think I am wrong. I can think you are wrong. Touchy subjects like this bring out both sides. I would advise you not to make threats in future posts. You may not read it that way, but others can and will.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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WOW your children PURPOSELY make other kids bleed??? Huh...interesting. Says a whole lot about your parenting right there. No need to clarify, it is already crystal clear.

Actually, you need to word things more carefully. That is YOUR problem. It is the way others will interpret your words.


Nope, not attacking other peoples religion. Don't have a care in the world about other peoples religious beliefs, but if you are going to bring it into a discussion/debate, it will be address when there are fallacies involved.

Edited for clarity

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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I really think your just wrong and that's my opinion and I am entitled to that. And no response to the bible cause you calling bible thumping was out of line. You attacked that woman's religion. How did you become a mod? Cause you do a lot of the same SHIT you get onto people for.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Okay you physco way of thinking is surprising. I didn't say on accident cause I assumed as adults we could know the difference so for you little miss wrong I will clarify.....I spanked my kids for purposely making another child bleed. There is that easier for you to understand. And there really is no such thing as accidental because accidents are caused by carelessness.And NO ONE IS ADVOCATING FOR SHIT LADY.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Okay you obviously are crazy lady. Never threatened ANYONE. Can you read? How am I gonna hit someone if I'm in jail for hitting someone. Your a bright one heh. The name is just a point to make. If your wrong then you can't be right. You are so confused I think. Abuse is hitting with excessive or unnecessary force period. That the law and you my dear can't change that. All my training was very helpful in this case as I have had to report and in returned reported on so I know for a fact I AM RIGHT! I have some issues but lady they are really none of your business. I think you should get your shit straight before you go attacking someone. And again.....NEVER THREATENED ANYONE. It was ment as an example not literal.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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"As far as your daughters face goes that is plum ridiculous to assume someone would spank a child for an accident."

Actually, these were your words

"In my home you got spanked for making someone bleed or going in the street"

I was simply responding to the fact that one of my children made the other one bleed.....at least they didn't go into the street...see my kids know better with out beating it into them the way you are advocating.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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I love when people attack my name, cause it is an automatic go to when others are wrong.

And if you worked in the health field, and were taught, then you should know better. Clearly you don't.

"Oh and btw......I only go to jail for hitting some adult if they run like a sissy lala to the cops. Don't step if you don't wanna step."

Was this suppose to be some sort of a threat????

And yeah, if you hit someone and they go to the cops, then you hit them again....I guess you are going to jail now aren't you?? You say you would hit someone if they went to the cops for you hitting them??? Yeah you have no aggression issues AT ALL!

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Again little miss wrong.......there are books of the bible written by woman but king James decided we didn't need those and what the hell does that have to do with spanking? And God wanted Abraham to kill one of his kids so I pretty sure he be okay with busting some bum.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Well I know you call yourself little miss can't be wrong but I have to tell you it should be little miss can be wrong cause in this case you are. Spanking with excessive unnecessary force IS abuse but just a few swats is NOT abuse. Honey your preaching to the choir. Many years working in health and child care with numerous hours of training on this very subject. Teaching street awareness is GREAT til they run into the traffic. I don't mean just spank the shit out of them every time but if I have "taught" you and you don't listen then a spanking you shall get cause I sure would rather spank than have them get run over. As far as your daughters face goes that is plum ridiculous to assume someone would spank a child for an accident. Are you serious lady. You take things to a whole new level. Oh and btw......I only go to jail for hitting some adult if they run like a sissy lala to the cops. Don't step if you don't wanna step.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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You do realize that the bible was actually written by men right? That they added what they wanted to it? Yeah...Pretty sure God doesn't want YOU beating HIS children.

Bible thumping aside, hitting is wrong no matter how you twist it.

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You call spanking abusive. In a world where everything that is wrong is called right and everything right is called wrong. One has to look at the only correct book on the planet and see what it has to share. I understand you may not be a Bible person or even believe in G_d. however, it clearly states that to spear the rod will indeed spoil the child. it also calls the rod, a rod of correction. If done once correctly, they now have something to fear and it will deter unwanted behavior. Just like jail deters you from committing a crime, just like a ticket deters you from running a red light. Children also need something to fear to keep them in line when you are not standing there. That is it's only purpose. If your children respond the first time then you have no need for it. I spanked my daughter once and i made it clear that this would be the end result if I have to talk to her more than 3 times. Guess what, i have never had to spank her again. She is no 18 and all is going well.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Hitting a child for running into the street solves nothing. Try teaching street safety. My daughter fell and hit her face on the floor yesterday and got a major bloody nose. My other child was the reason it happened. It was an accident. Should I hit him cause he made her bleed and cry? Even though he was on the verge of tears because he felt awful for that? Hitting him would have helped?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Spanking is hitting your child. It is abuse IMO. If you hit an adult, what happens? Why is there a double standard that you can hit a child, but if you hit an adult you can go to jail, yet a child is much smaller than an adult.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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Close minded is assuming all parents who spank are abusive. Spanking is not abuse.

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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I am confused.....hitting a child for hitting....wtf.....who said that. In my home you got spanked for making someone bleed or going in the street.....not just because kids hit. My goodness if that was the case there would be a lot of abused kids.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/30/2015

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Closed minded to not hitting your child? I will own that. Hitting a child for hitting doesn't exactly resolve the problem does it?

American - posted on 12/30/2015

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I believe there is sometimes a need for something other than talking or time outs. If your calm and can administer a spanking for the discipline without anger then a spanking can and will work. I also agree that when they are old enough to understand what you are saying then it should always be your last resort. To the OP be careful how you approach certain topics on this site as these women can be very closed minded on some subjects but also have a lot of knowledge that can be helpful. I say to each there own as spanking is not agonist the law. You know your children better than anyone so you know what works.

Jodi - posted on 12/29/2015

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I am personally anti-spanking. Unfortunately, I just see too often the effects of parents who don't know where the line is and totally screw their kids up. The "line" for some parents is blurred, so therefore, if we just don't do it, then there isn't a line anyone ends up crossing. I've even had to accompany a child to the police station in the late evening to report bruising as a result of hitting (SHE is the one who wanted it reported and child protection were called because she refused to go home that night), even though I KNOW the parent didn't intend to injure his child. It's just too easy to go too far....so just don't do it.

Dove - posted on 12/29/2015

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Exactly Jodi. I'm not entirely anti-spanking, but I would definitely not call myself PRO spanking. Have I spanked? Yep, I'm an imperfect human trying to raise 3 other imperfect humans and I don't always have the best answers... but spanking is not something I would EVER advocate for or advise another mother to do... regardless of the discipline problem they may be having.

I've been taking care of other people's kids for 22 years and hitting another person's kid is illegal... so if someone asks for advice on a topic I will advise a non aggressive approach... or admit that I don't have a clue. lol

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/29/2015

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It will never happen Shawnn, I never get an answer to that question.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 12/29/2015

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Still waiting on those answers, Beth S.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 12/28/2015

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First, get your personal contact info out of your post. It attracts spammer/scammers and assholes.

Second, I'm glad that you admit that you cannot effectively communicate with your children in any other way except to continue to abuse them. Spanking before they are able to effectively communicate is for discipline and attention getting. Once your kids are old enough to understand your native language, then there are much more effective forms of communication and discipline.

But, whatever, each to her/his own. Personally, I stopped spanking when my kids were old enough to understand English.

As usual, I'm betting that the OP will not bother to respond to LM's very well thought out questions either, but I'd really (for once) like to see how those are addressed. In the hopes that those questions WILL be answered, they were:

1) If you were in an argument with an adult, would you hit them? Why not?
2) If you are in a disagreement with your co-workers or subordinates, do you hit them when they don't listen? Why not?

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