Is anyone having to deal with dfs? I'll explain my story if anyone thinks they can help. Thanks.
â« Shawnn âªâ«â« - posted on 02/17/2015
Oh, yeah, because I always trust an attorney that's been banned from practicing: http://www.mass.gov/obcbbo/bd13-065.pdf ... Yeah, he may be practicing again, but anyone who willingly abets a runaway in order to attempt to sabotage the system isn't a very stellar person, IMO...
As far as your second link, Ms. Burrz...Perhaps you'd be better served if you actually could post links that work.
You apparently have a very skewed view of what rules and regulations you're speaking of.
Please cite your sources for the following: "The United States Supreme Court ruled against parental rights in 2010 and since that ruling things have gone downhill" and " the means they have to go through to obtain a ridiculous quota, well you should understand a high turnover rate of workers leaving DSS and the lack of pay, pressure, and horrors they face are only half of the reason they leave". Here's another that I'd like sources for: " People aren't trained properly, in 2014 admittedly the 2 week training required to be a social worker was not completed until the end of their first year or senior workers training them how they learned, not how they should have been trained due to the turnover rate"
I do so love to see the "I forget which city it was"...How about searching, so that you can provide backup for the information you are trying to get out? Oh, wait, I see why you didn't do that...because the search turned up NOTHING. People who want to effect change in the world are better served by learning that TRUTHFUL information will get you much further than allegations and blatant lies. Here's one that I'm questioning: "Missouri does not have parental rights protection". According to this: http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?..., MO signed HB1488 in March of 2014 creating protection for parental rights.
Jodi is pretty much spot on. EVERY parent who has children removed thinks that they've been sorely wronged by the horrible 'system'...but, in fact, if you comply with requirements, DFS, Child protective services, any of the above, is the first and foremost agency to promote FAMILY.
Being rude isn't going to get you far, either. How about you open YOUR eyes. Realize that your case was ONE in a billion...and if you'd gone into it with the attitude of cooperation, rather than defiance, it most likely would have been better. Oh, and another thing: Relying on employees as a valid, non-biased opinion...is never going to work out for you.
Ellie - posted on 02/17/2015
Every job has a minimum requirement of success rate. i.e. if you make them lose money you are fired. If you make them earn money you keep your job. Then they set a standard. This is not an opinion this is factual evidence. Open your eyes, and if you're not in the US why are you arguing with me? I'm speaking of regulations and such of the US. That does not mean it isn't the same elsewhere.
Ellie - posted on 02/16/2015
As a child and as a mother, I have seen both sides, various cases, etc. My personal experience has been rushed, no investigation has been done, and court cases have been issued with false information. The United States Supreme Court ruled against parental rights in 2010 and since that ruling things have gone downhill. Good people start out trying to help families in social services. Once they discover the truth behind their work, the means they have to go through to obtain a ridiculous quota, well you should understand a high turnover rate of workers leaving DSS and the lack of pay, pressure, and horrors they face are only half of the reason they leave. Some are stuck playing as pawns, going along the regime that their uppers push on them. People aren't trained properly, in 2014 admittedly the 2 week training required to be a social worker was not completed until the end of their first year or senior workers training them how they learned, not how they should have been trained due to the turnover rate. You have unsatisfied parents, unsatisfied workers, and an unbridled amount of power that all government funded types, judges, clergy, doctors, teachers, etc. Are working with or afraid of retaliation for disagreeing. I forget which city it was but a Missouri Mayor had spoken about DFS using political intimidation to side step and side wind laws and regulations. They have unrestricted power and do as they please. I understand your opposition to my claims but if you research the amount of false claims reported by DFS, the pay rate, the pay increase per child, and the means they go about doing business, you would understand they operate under pretense, are very shady and yes there are some good ones. They are far and few in between. I have a friend who is a case worker for DFS. She has given me some insight into the world of the US government and its questionable methods, laws, restrictions, etc. Missouri does not have parental rights protection. Something ALL parents in MO should be fighting for. With that said I urge you to see from all sides and not just the sunshine and rainbows you want to see.
Jodi - posted on 02/16/2015
I disagree, Ellie. What on earth do they gain by trying everything possible to remove someone's children, even making up lies? Nothing! The workers don't see the money that funds the departments. They are there to protect the children, and if you have done something to have them removed, then own it, fix it, and get your kids back.
Ellie - posted on 02/16/2015
DSS, DSF, DFS, DCS, Etc are all the same thing. The case workers are not your friend and will do everything they can to build a case and remove your children. The more kids they take and hold and set up for adoption, the more money they make. Read up on the dirty tricks they use massoutrage.com also my.kidjacker.com, everyone including myself has had dealings with DFS and I can honestly say they only want the money, the kids, and don't care about keeping families together.
Karen - posted on 04/30/2010
Morgan, you didn't offend me, so no worries. :) Pictures have been taken, before and after, so hopefully that will help. Thank you!
Jesse, thank you! I think he needs to be worried also!
Tracy, my dr is aware of how they are coming back, she's the one who wants child services involved. It's good to know that I shouldn't have anything to worry about, makes it a little less stressful. Thank you!
Melissa - posted on 04/30/2010
I would keep a running record of the dates that they go to their dads house and what is wrong when they come back. Does the doctor know this is happening at their father's house? As for DFS (Dept. of Family Services) you need to make sure that your house is safe and clean. It doesn't sound like you are the one that should worry. The thing that I hate is that they tell people when they are coming so they never see the true environment so more than likely their dad's place will look fine when they come check, that is if he cares.
Sharon - posted on 04/30/2010
To make yourself look better..
House = immaculate
have something yummy cooking & baking... smells help
Make sure the kids rooms are neat looking with toys evident, maybe an organised closet open & showing.
Let them poke around ANYWHERE, medicine cabinets, kitchen cabinets etc.
Make sure your child safety measures are current and appropriate.
DO NOT TAKE PICTURES OF YOUR KIDS ASSES.
You & I know why you did it, but your ex can twist the fuck out of that.
Take them to the doctor after the rash has cleared up and show the doctor their healthy bottoms, have him take a picture or at least make note of it. Then send the poor doomed children off their shithead fathers'. When they come back with rashes/sores/whatever, take them back to the doctor.
Tracy - posted on 04/30/2010
Is your dr aware that the kids are coming BACK to you in this condition? That information will help tremendously. It won't matter what he says, they are well aware that they are going to hear all kinds of things about the other parent and are trained to make up their own minds. If your home is clean, there's food, and the kids seem comfortable then you really have nothing to worry about. I know it's scary all the same, though.
Morgan - posted on 04/30/2010
I wasent trying to offend you, just wanted you to feel better about it, if you know you take great care of your kids theres nothing to worry about!!
everything will be fine :)
can you take pitures of these rashes with the dates on them so you can prove these things are happing in their fathers care?
Karen - posted on 04/30/2010
Morgan, the reason I mentioned bettering my chances is because my ex would do anything to make me look like a bad parent. There is nothing going on in my home that makes me worry, just worried about what my ex will say. And not that it should matter, hopefully you understand.
Christina, dfs is child services. Child services is probably the right way to describe them, but dfs is how I refer to them, lol.
But anyway, I want to thank you both for your advice, you've been very helpful!
Christina - posted on 04/30/2010
i'm not sure what dfs is...but if it's anything like children services we have been there and done that. false acusations were made so they had to do an investigation. they are concerned about a clean house (doesn't have to be spottless, just no trash laying around everywhere, dirty dishes everywhere, etc.), accepatable sleeping areas, and food in the house. it's okay to not have every dish clean in the house; dirty dishes=full bellies. as long as you are doing what needs to be done as far as house cleaning and taking care of your children you will be fine. nothing to worry about!! hope all goes well for you and God bless! :o)
Karen - posted on 04/30/2010
Ok, I am a divorced mother of two boys. Every other weekend they go to their dads and 9 times out of ten they come back with diaper rash and they are sick. My dr. said that if it continues one more time, she will contact dfs. My question is, how can I better my chances of looking better when dfs inspects my living quaters?
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