Is it okay for teens to have tattoos or piercings?

Apryl - posted on 07/19/2016 ( 367 moms have responded )

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I was just wondering how moms feel about teens having tattoo's/piercings. My opinion is that it's fine if the teen is mature enough.
I got my first tattoo at 17, because I had just graduated high school and the tattoo had a significant meaning to me.
It is their body and it should be their choice. If the teen does end up regretting it, they can't blame their parents because it was something that they wanted to do. I don't get why some parents are totally against it. Even if you don't let your child get a piercing/tattoo, once they're 18 they CAN do it without your permission anyway.

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Nadine - posted on 07/22/2016

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Apryl, I was really trying to understand the point you were aiming for, while I was flicking through movies last night Mean Girls came up, and I get it.
You are not like a regular mom, you are a cool mom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2NpFC5P48

You want to shame us all for our old school ways, and make us understand your coolness. You will be your kids best friend. Well, I am okay with not being a cool mom. My son has lots of friends, he doesn't need a 44 year old catering to his whims so he will like me. He needs a mother to put reasonable limits on his behavior, and focuses on turning him into a responsible adult. I am glad you are happy with your parenting style. I am happy with mine. I will learn to live with the fact that you think I am old and not cool. Inside I will weep and envy your coolness, if that makes you feel somehow validated.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/22/2016

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Are you sure you are really 37? On my side of the screen, it really seems like I am reading words from an immature 17 yr old. Go figure.

Nadine - posted on 07/22/2016

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No, I was not mature. Smart, hell yes. I got special awards and scholarships. That did not make me any more mature. As a 16 year old I would tell you about how mature I was. As an adult I am so grateful my parents were not afraid to be parents, and did not try to be my friend.

Jodi - posted on 07/22/2016

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"Insult me more by calling me old or saying that I'm living through my children. When will it end?"

And YOU haven't insulted everyone on this thread who would not allow their teen to be tattooed before adulthood by using terms such as "old-minded", "prude", and any number of other terms? Please! Where the fuck do YOU get off, lady?

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/22/2016

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Nadine, YOU GOT IT IN ONE!

I still question the adulthood of the OP. Her "arguments" seriously mirror every singel bratty teen that wants to try to convince their parents that they should be able to do what they want.

Not to mention, but we are clearly miles off topic now, and none of my questions for the OP have really been answered, except to say that we're all "old" and "close minded", "stupid", and "over reacting". She didn't even own up to her dishonesty in changing her OP

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Sarah - posted on 07/24/2016

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I did not think an OP could, but if I failed to lock it I made a mistake and I apologize.

Jodi - posted on 07/24/2016

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Sarah, I don't think the thread locked back up ;) Unless the OP opened it again to get the last word in.....

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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Laws are different in each state/country regarding people under 18 getting tattoo's/piercings and the minimum age in some areas is 16 with a parent present.
Therefore, it is not illegal.
Sure, some parents are not as open to it as others. However you parent your kids is your business.

Doing what makes YOU happy as an individual doesn't mean breaking the law. Plenty of sensible, LEGAL things make you happy. Doing what makes you happy to me means living your life without trying to please others or live up to their standards. That doesn't mean doing something unethical or illegal.

I have my opinions, you have yours.
I do what makes me happy as an adult and I don't put others at risk while doing so.

I'm actually a pretty respectful human being. I have my own way of living and doing things, and I don't judge or belittle those who choose to do the opposite of what I consider normal or acceptable.
That's what I call "open minded."

Lol.

Sarah - posted on 07/23/2016

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I did it, I did it, oh yea, yea, yea! As my oh so wise 12 yo would say..
And since I can (sorry Michelle, gonna lock it right back up) I decided to reward myself for reading all 19 pages of debate!
Well, I gotta give props to everyone who stuck to it for so long!
I do think the whole conclusion of there is a reason you can't get tattooed until 18 has been hammered out to death. You may not like it, but the law is the law. Simply believing you are ready and proceeding is not a valid reason or excuse for illegal behavior. Do people break the law all the time? Sure. Is it ok? NO!
I could go on and on about my own credentials, life experience, college cost, my own battle with dyslexia but I am not going to bother. Those of you who know me, know I say what I believe and I am careful to be accurate in my responses.

Apryl if you want your children to live by the philosophy of:
"I think people should do whatever makes them happy" then that is your choice. You may find those who agree and those who do not. I do not agree. I do not do whatever makes me happy because I am an adult, a mother, a nurse and I care about limits, laws and safety.
Kudos to you for having the stones to stick with the debate for so long as most would have been run off in a page or two.
Well done to all!

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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This isn't about YOU and YOUR tattoo. This is a general conversation around teens and tattoos. Noone gives a shit how many tattoos you have. You got one tattoo done after your graduation, which was ONE MONTH before you turned 18. Whoop-dee-doo.

Michelle - posted on 07/23/2016

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Little Miss is also in the medical field.
I am also locking this thread.
Michelle,
WtCoM Mod.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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I will say this for the 50th time, I have 12 tattoos. I got my first one done when I was 17. It has never affected my health.
It depends on how well experienced the person giving the tattoo is.

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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Actually....Sarah is a nurse......
And it's kinda right up there with you not being a teacher and not having child development or psychology qualifications....and not having the right to belittle my knowledge (or anyone's, really). But whatever.

"I think it's time to stop the bullshit. "
Good, then stop.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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I think people should do whatever makes them happy. I do not care who gets a tattoo or who doesn't. I do have a problem though, with knocking those that do. If it's not your body, it really doesn't affect you in any way.

Also, I am well aware of when the brain is fully developed. Doesn't mean that people are incapable of making rational decisions until then.

I think it's time to stop the bullshit.
None of you are nurses or doctors, right?
So, you don't have the right to belittle my knowledge. I have been in the medical field for 15 years. I think I'm very intelligent in this area.

Thank you.

Sarah - posted on 07/23/2016

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Well I tried to catch up...
No way would any decent health care professional say this:
"I'm not knocking teachers, but that doesn't make your opinion valuable to me.
You teach kids, I treat them.
Kind of similar, but slightly different"
In any area of nursing care, education is a huge priority, HUGE. Not just treat the body and bail.
If you are so aware of the potential risks of a tattoo, yet feel it appropriate for an underage person to get one; then why did you ask the fucking question in the first place?
Why do you suppose the industry is regulated, with health code standards, education and licensing requirement, and age restrictions. Because the importance of allowing an adult to make an informed decision about a permanent change to their body far outweighs the benefits of allowing a teen to make a decision on a whim. Healthy bodied or not you must know (since you are an NP) that the frontal lobe (responsible for decision making) is not fully developed until age 25, and there is current legislation advising the age for tattoos be raised from 18 to 21.
Also, there is an amendment in the IL dept of public health requiring proof of sobriety, before a tattoo can be applied. Hopefully to reduce the amount of foolish and unsafe procedures being performed.

I leave this open for a bit but I agree that it is time to wrap it up

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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To the mods....I think this conversation has run its course. It isn't even productive anymore. May be worth locking it unless someone has something actually productive to say? I've got nothing......

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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"What a judgmental assumption to make about someone."
You know Apryl, coming from someone who has made sweeping judgements about people all over this conversation, I'm not taking that comment particularly seriously

Also, I wasn't talking TO you, I was addressing the comment to Little Miss. I have no intention of addressing you any further.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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I am well aware of medical concerns surrounding tattoos. I don't see what that has to do with a teen getting one.
There are plenty of healthy people with tattoos.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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You just know it all, Jodi.
Funny how someone that I've never met, knows so much about me, my life, and my character. What a judgmental assumption to make about someone.

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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Very true, Little Miss. If she actually WAS a nursing practitioner, it should have come up earlier. Instead she chose to mention that pediatricians don't object to piercing baby's ears. You'd think, as a nursing practitioner, she would have opened up about her own credentials and she would be aware of the AAP advice on piercing ears (and hence a pediatrician's advice). You'd also think she'd be aware of the risks associated with tattoos in what is LARGELY and unregulated market in the US and at least understand the medical concerns around that for a child.

With regard to the adult thing, I suspect we are arguing with a narcissist, which is why it becomes so circular and why nothing we have to say could even have impact on who she thinks she is. Exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others' feelings - the three key signs of narcissistic personality disorder. Sound familiar? This might explain why she is coming across as a 17 year old herself, as narcissists often act in a childlike manner.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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If I'm really an adult? I don't see what I would gain from pretending to be an adult.
I pay my own bills and have been doing so since age 17. So I could careless if I fail to reach your definition of an adult.

I don't see what makes you all more "adult" or rational than me. Lol.

Ev - posted on 07/23/2016

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Little Miss, thanks for the correction but still regardless of that correction, I would still stand by what I said about being one especially working with kids.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/23/2016

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IF she really is an adult, there is no way she is a nurse practitioner.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/23/2016

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The point Ev, she is NOT a nurse practitioner at all. Period. No way. In fact in an earlier post (not gonna search to many pages, I can find it later when I have more time) she said she was NOT a nurse. She would have clarified it then if she was a NURSE practitioner.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/23/2016

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I don't believe you are in the medical field at all. In fact, I am now certain you are i high school. I will actually bet money on it. Anyone up for the wager?

Ev - posted on 07/23/2016

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Apryl,

You have to understand that the way you present things here make you sound holier than thou or better than others. Your comments about kids in pain scenerios, being smart, and so on did cover all kids. You generalized that. You made it sound as if EVERY kid who did not do so well were stupid or dumb or did not want to achieve or did not have the capabilitties to achieve anything. THat is what upset me and my son. You put all kids in the same brackets without thinking about those that were the acception to the fact. And I would think being a nurse practioner you would understand that if you specialize in working with children because you would be exposed to a plethora of kids in a setting like a Children's Hospital not just typical or normal kids. Usually at a children's hospital it is children who have had such serious injuries or conditions or special needs that go there for treatments and help more so than typical children. I know that because my friend's son spent ten years of his life going back and forth to one for a genetic condition he has. I would think you would not laugh at those kids's reactions because of their medical conditions. Some of them might feel or think they are being more seriously hurt because of their mental abilities not being up to par with peers though I am sure some do have a typical mental state not all do. If you could but read one or two of your previous posts and then compare it to the others that have been answered to it, you might see how it is sounding or that we have come to the conclusions that you barely read the other posts.

Dove - posted on 07/23/2016

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I just read to the 'feeling you are better than someone is not arrogant' foolishness... and I'm sure the lovely, intelligent ladies here already pointed it out... but that IS arrogant and conceited. Confident is believing you can do it... NOT believing you are better than anyone else. Those words were no where in that definition @@

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/23/2016

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Yes, Apryl, you demonstrate a severe lack of maturity. You say that you don't sugar coat. Well, sweetie, neither do I. The fact that you've blatantly argued for going on four days, that you've COMPLETELY gone off topic, that you have continued to defend your position on your alleged intelligence while stooping to juvenile tactics like veiled or direct insult.

As I have stated before, YOU ACT like a teenager. That is my opinion. If you don't like it, look to yourself to see if, perhaps, your attitude needs adjusting. When my kids used to start this shit, the conversation was over until they could demonstrate good sense

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/23/2016

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Oh Lord, Michelle! You have missed a bunch. I, for one, am tired of this elitist attitude that is continually reinforced by very single post this poster makes! She makes highly inflammatory statements, then backpedals when someone points out the offensiveness of her statements. She insults Jodi with every other post, all the while maintaining that she is somehow more intelligent and experienced than everyone else. Anyone who doesn't agree with her is either close minded or old fashioned.

Honestly, this is just like every other conversation I've held with members of the 14 to 17 age group.

Michelle - posted on 07/23/2016

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Far out!!!
Now we are discussing kids being smart or not. I can't keep up with this.
I will put my Mod hat on for a bit and say please play nice ladies or I will lock this thread. I don't want to since it has been one of our most active ones for a very long time.
Michelle,
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Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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"Sweetheart, I am a Nurse practitioner.
I make over $90,000 a year.
It is a highly respected career. "

That's great, I am genuinely happy for you. But why you even needed to bring up income in this conversation is beyond me. I'm not even sure why you did it other than as an attempt to insult me because you had no other comeback so you decided to be a bitch.

"I'm not knocking teachers, but that doesn't make your opinion valuable to me.
You teach kids, I treat them.
Kind of similar, but slightly different."

Actually very different. But whatever.......if you think they are similar, you go with that.

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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Where did ANYONE say all kids were smart? I didn't say that. Noone said that.

"I am not talking about the smart kids who get bad grades because they have learning disabilities, or crappy lives, or no support, or because they have anxiety or depression."

Yes, yes you DID imply ALL kids who got bad grades. You DID actually say that. And now you are backpedaling because we have pointed out that you are wrong. Thank you for taking our points on board, even though you clearly don't want to admit that perhaps you were wrong in the first place and that you used inappropriate generalisations. NOW you are finally understanding why so many people were insulted by your initial statements. Perhaps you SHOULD have clarified what you meant back when you made those generalisations rather than trying to continue to argue your point. You would have received entirely different responses from people.

You know, when every other person who has commented on this conversation is reading your posts in the same way I am and interpreting them in the same way I am, I don't think it is an issue of misinterpretation, I think the problem is in the delivery.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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Sweetheart, I am a Nurse practitioner.
I make over $90,000 a year.
It is a highly respected career.
I'm not knocking teachers, but that doesn't make your opinion valuable to me.
You teach kids, I treat them.
Kind of similar, but slightly different.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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ALL KIDS ARE NOT SMART!

You may not want to believe that, but you need to understand that some people just aren't determined and some people are just not intelligent, period.

I am not the type of person to sugarcoat things to pacify someone's feelings.
I am truthful. I accept reality.
No matter how much you try to prove me to be uninformed, it is a fact that some people are just not as smart as others, academically or common sense wise.
Everyone doesn't have intellect, good judgment, or wisdom.. and some people don't strive to succeed. Period.

I am not talking about the smart kids who get bad grades because they have learning disabilities, or crappy lives, or no support, or because they have anxiety or depression. That is completely different. I am talking about the kids who just lack smarts period, the ones that just don't want to study, or better themselves. There are just unsmart and unintelligent people period. Obviously you haven't met kids like that.

SMH, don't be a twit and misinterpret everything I say just to insult my intelligence.

Jodi - posted on 07/23/2016

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LOL, LADY. I know the US doesn't value teachers (and clearly neither do you) and pays them pathetically, but where I live, teachers are highly educated and experienced teachers earn almost $100,000 (about the equivalent of US$75K - $80K). It is a respectable and well paid career. Chances are, I am on more money that you've ever been while you jab needles in little kids. But your little snide remark about my wages is truly irrelevant (and ignorant).

I never said you DIRECTLY belittled these kids with shitty home lives, but you have continued to go ON and ON and ON about how kids who don't get good grades are so much less smarter than than those who do. You are looking at a very simplistic view of the world, and there is a whole RANGE of things that you have not even bothered to take into consideration when making such an insulting broad generalisations as you have been doing.

Yes I am judging you. You'd better fucking believe it.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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You're judging me though.
I never belittled kids who have those problems or shitty home lives, but that is not always the case.
As far as laughing at kids getting needles, that discussion has been over and if you'd keep up with the thread, you wouldn't be bringing up old posts.
Also, how does that mean I don't have empathy because I find kids who are terrified by a little pain, laughable? No, I never said I laughed at them while they're in pain, I said I find their REACTION laughable. I give many kids shots, I know what I'm doing and I'm very aware that kids can overreact about ANY type of pain. It's not a big deal. Am I supposed to cry along with them while giving them shots? No.

You are attacking my character and I don't fucking appreciate it. Just because you studied child development doesn't make your opinion of merit or value. You're just a teacher who barely makes $20,000 a year.
You can't judge my character or tell me that I have no empathy because I chuckle when thinking about kids and some of their reactions to pain. SMH.

You are not a psychiatrist, lady.
Don't go attacking my morals.
Screw you, to be frank.

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Apryl Riley - posted 29 minutes ago

"Ev
No where did I imply that people who have problems with learning are not smart."

And yet it is implied here:
"if your kid failed a grade and got left behind other kids, would you consider them smart? No, because that's not a smart decision and that's not determination."

And here:
" If you get all D's and even F's on a report card, you're not smart or even determined.
Being smart is working harder than the masses to succeed. Being smart is getting the best grades. Being smart is actually learning in school, not just getting by.
Being smart is trying to be ABOVE AVERAGE. "

And here:
"If you excelled in your classes, that does make you smarter than other kids who are falling behind you."

I actually truly pity you that you lack empathy. In all of your superior diatribe, you have failed to consider that maybe there is a really smart child failing because:

1. they have a learning disability and they are not getting the support they need for that from their teachers or even their parents. Maybe it just hasn't been diagnosed yet.
2. they have a shit home life, where they are caring for a sick parent and younger siblings and are barely sleeping at night and as a result are not performing at their peak at school
3. they have anxiety and depression as a result of physical or sexual abuse as a child and are struggling just to get through their days without a suicidal thought.
4. they are moved from school to school because their parents are drug addict losers and the poor child just starts to understand a learning concept and they get moved away again.
5. the child who comes to school with no food in their belly 50% of the time, and often doesn't bring any with them because their parents can't afford it or choose to spend the money on cigarettes and alcohol, so struggles to concentrate at school.
6. the child who moved to this country from a war torn environment and saw his father killed and now is having to do his learning in his second language, and even though he communicates well verbally, really struggles with a variety of concepts when trying to learn in that language in the traditional way.

Every one of the kids in these scenarios (all very real scenarios) are just as smart as you......but jut didn't have the same privilege you appear to have had. Your lack of empathy and lack of ANY understanding that yes, smart kids fail ALL the time, but it isn't always through lack of trying, absolutely astounds me. In fact, your lack of any kind of empathy, right down to the laughing at the kids getting needles, sickens me. In your world of unicorns and rainbows, that poor kid of the drug addicts, that child who is a carer, that sexually abused and depressed, suicidal child are all just not trying hard enough.

Can you see yet how you have come across as an arrogant elitist snob with little to no regard for others and that you were possibly spewing ill informed comments about something you know very little about? You are more than welcome to your opinion, but at LEAST make it an informed one if you want anyone to have any respect for it.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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There is nothing wrong with being smart or more determined than others or having confidence about yourself.

See, some people get the terms conceited and confident highly mistaken.

Confident
Adjective
Definition: having a feeling or belief that you can do something well or succeed at something; self assured.

Conceited
Adjective
Definition: excessively proud of oneself; vain.

There is a big difference. Feeling that you are the best at what you do or smarter than some people is not being arrogant, it is having confidence in your abilities and knowing what/who you are.
You should strive to be the best at anything in my opinion, not just be "average."
It's just not good enough to me.
Excuse my confidence, or "arrogance" as some of you put it.

Apryl - posted on 07/23/2016

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Ev
No where did I imply that people who have problems with learning are not smart. There are people with learning disabilities, then there are people who don't try at all or fail to comprehend. There are those kids that need special attention in order to learn, and there are people who have excellent learning and comprehensive skills. To me, that makes a person smart academically. But that doesn't make kids who don't get it as easily, stupid.
There are book worms and kids who spend time studying to perfect their learning. All I'm saying is that not trying is stupid.

I never said anything about your son, you took it that way and directed my opinion to your son. I'm sure your son is smart because he TRIED. This is about kids who do not try and aren't determined.
I do believe that graduating early takes extra hard work, determination, and intellect. That is my opinion. It shows that you excelled more and you were more determined than kids who are still behind because of poor grades and laziness.
That is MY opinion. You can argue that until you die, I don't care.

I know just as much as any of you. I'm not speaking from an ignorant place at all. It might seem as if I am, but trust me, I'm not.

That is all I can say.

Jodi - posted on 07/22/2016

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Do you really think you were called ill-informed and ignorant simply because you didn't know the definition of something? I mean, really? Are you ACTUALLY that thick or are you just pretending to be?

Apryl - posted on 07/22/2016

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I just felt the need to explain the definition to back up my statement, that way no one can accuse me of being ill informed or ignorant. LOL.

Ev - posted on 07/22/2016

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{If you can't learn at all even if you try, that means you are dyslexic.}-----My son just read these from your post and he has a few words to impart to you, Apryl.

From son: Look up the word Dyslexic wrong it got you think I. Get the picture ,cause I sure can see forward and reverse. You underestimate the power of the mind. Do you think that simply not understanding anything is a problem and that people should be elite like you?


{If you lack the ability to learn or lack the intelligence that it takes to learn, you are dumb. By definition.}

Look at Einstein he failed in school and turned out to be a genus in math., Take the nuclear bomb for example he helped create it.
I hate it when people underestimate me and others and think we are weak. You do not understand a lot of things about people. I had a hard time in school because people like you underestimated me. So I kept at it until I passed it. I was relentless in doing that. Those think that others are dumb have got it vice versa. I do not like how others make themselves look better when pointing out how some people are dumb.

From me: Apryl, there is a world you must not know too much of and that is the world of people who have special needs, disabilities, mental disorders, and Autism or other similar disorders. Those people cannot help themselves and learning can be a troublesome ordeal for them. This by any means does not make them less intelligent or smart than the next person. This also does not mean they do not try to learn or have the ability to do so because it is harder for them to grasp things like others. They are not dumb. Actually they know somethings better than most. They also think differently than the average normal human does...sometimes see things in a way normal humans do not. Take my son for example. He does not see things the same way his sister and I would. Does that make him dumb? He had to have learning services through school because of a learning disability that was never identified. But he worked hard to get past those issues even failing his lessons in order to overcome the obstacles he faced. Does that make one dumb? He was in a group of kids that most of them would have given up and quit trying long ago and he did not do so. But it does not make them dumb. He is very intelligent and he researches things all the time more out of interest than to learn and he comes back with a plethora of information about the subjects that catch his attention. Is not going on to college making him dumb as well?

My point is just because someone has problems with learning does not mean they are not smart or just do not want to try or whatever. They just have to go about learning in a different way. But when someone can sit there and say these things you have said, it hurts because you do not know the struggles these people and my son had to face every day and some still do face daily. Just because someone strives to better themselves by making the grade or graduating early does not make them any more special than the next person. I think it is great to strive for the best. But you should not brag that you are the better one because you pushed yourself and so on because frankly, it might have come easier for you than it did for him, but he knows deep down he worked for what he got and he was so proud of his achievement. He overcame obstacles that you did not apparently have to get where he did. That to me is smart. That to me shows character. That to me shows he can do anything he wants to do because he pushed himself to get it and he did. That is what makes a person.

Jodi - posted on 07/22/2016

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arrogant
ˈarəɡ(ə)nt/
adjective
having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.

superior
suːˈpɪərɪə,sjuː
adjective
having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself; conceited.

superiority complex
noun
an attitude of superiority which conceals actual feelings of inferiority and failure.

Ooh, look! Who knew Google was so knowledgeable and all we needed was someone to point it out!!

Apryl - posted on 07/22/2016

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Google definition of intellect.

Intellect
Noun
"The faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regards to abstract or academic matters"

So yes, some people lack the intelligence and intellect that it takes to learn and be smart. Google literally takes a second, you should try it before spewing insults.
My maturity is irrelevant. I am quite mature and I know the definition of words. (;

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/22/2016

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FFS!

"stupid" people? "Dull witted"??? You just substituted other offensive statements! What friggin era are you in, anyway?

Even developmentally disabled people have the ability to learn. You are further demonstrating your lack of maturity.

Apryl - posted on 07/22/2016

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"No one lacks the intellect to learn"
Well, stupid people do, or dull witted, or ignorant. Whichever you feel is more appropriate to describe someone who's unintelligent. There are people that can't read or write because they learned none of the basic skills that they needed to know.
I would say dumb, but since that is offensive, I will just say unintelligent or lacking knowledge.

Jodi - posted on 07/22/2016

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"Calling people twits is rude.."

Yes, it is. I intended it that way. I wasn't pretending otherwise.

Jodi - posted on 07/22/2016

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I have a feeling Dr Google failed to inform that the term dumb's original definition was to describe someone who is unable to speak, or circumstances in which one is rendered unable to speak. However, over time, as language has evolved, it has become a slang or informally offensive term for stupid or dull-witted. It is kind of like using the term "retarded" which has an original meaning, and then the offensive term that it has become. These terms don't "actually" mean the offensive term....it is just what it has become through regular usage.

So basically, calling people dumb when referring to someone who is less intelligent than oneself is offensive and rude. It is a term that should be reserved for its appropriate use.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/22/2016

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Actually, no one lacks the intellect to learn. People who choose not to learn are showing a lack of desire.

Just as you are showing a lack of desire to fully read and comprehend our answers, thus continuing to act as an obtuse human being.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 07/22/2016

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I'm posting from my tablet, using Google chrome as my browser. The emojis pop up with the keyboard, and believe it or not, I was smart enough to figure 'em out without the help of a teen!

Jodi, does 💩 help?

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