Juice Addict?

Jessica - posted on 01/06/2016 ( 31 moms have responded )

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My son is 16 months old he drinks juice all day long very diluted this I don't mind apart from the amount of nappies I go through. But the problem is at night! He drinks around 4 200ml bottles he cries for me to pass the bottle all throughout the night and between that I have to change his nappy about 3-4 times I feel exhausted in the day because my sleep has been broken all through the night, I'm due with my second child in 5 weeks so something needs done! I've tried swapping the juice with water but this just caused a tantrum and extreme crying. PLEASE HELP! Is anyone else having a similar problem? He's been to doctors and had tests he's perfectly healthy just loves juice

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Carey - posted on 01/07/2016

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My son did the same at this age, I started reducing the amount of juice I put in the bottle so he would always finish the bottle but it wasnt a full bottle. I also diluted it a lot with water so that the taste of juice was there but not that nice. What I did find worked well, is I started introducing a cup instead of a bottle. I told him no more bottles, as he loved the bottle, so he had to sit up and drink which wasnt comfortable - this I found worked the best. Still to this day he likes to drink a lot but I only give him little at a time and encourage drinking water mostly - i found bottled water is the one thing he likes to drink so always have these and refill them. My son is now 5 and I have noticed his teeth are not as good as they should be, I am sure this is because of the all the juice and he used to drink through his teeth, I also had to teach him not to do that.

Jodi - posted on 01/10/2016

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I want to add, there is actually almost as much sugar in natural fruit juice (what you call sugar-free) as there is in Coke......it's just a different (and healthier - because it breaks down in the body differently unless you have too much of it) version of sugar, but it does the same damage to teeth, etc.

Sharon - posted on 01/08/2016

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Teeth ... just google toddler and the harmful effects of juice/sugar on their teeth .... you will be surprised at what you will see .....it actually (sugar) damages the new teeth that haven't even come down yet. That was enough to change my thinking 10 years ago.
I didn't want to have my child end up in hospital needing to get 7 to 10 teeth out because I let him drink juice all the time

Raye - posted on 01/08/2016

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Little Miss, there have been times I thought I was being really nice and got my ass handed to me because they took it wrong. I was on a phone call yesterday, and actually agreed with a woman who kept on talking, trying to push her opinion. I had to get a little rude, just to say "I AM AGREEING WITH YOU!" Her tone was bitch, and mine was sticky sweet until that point. So even hearing tone doesn't always work with some people who are just too far off in la-la land. Should some of us be nicer? Maybe. But some of them need to back off a bit, too.

Raye - posted on 01/08/2016

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Honesty and being straight-forward is not bashing. I'm actually getting really tired of the people that are just so fragile that they can't accept that someone has a different opinion. They come on the site expecting validation and an "easy answer", and instead get honesty and advice that makes more work for them when they already feel strained. Sorry, but I won't give bad advice just to make someone feel better. We're suppose to try to help them, give them alternatives when what they've tried hasn't worked, right? So how is it they get their panties all in a bunch when we do just that? How can anyone expect random people on the internet to know the exact specific wording to use that won't cause them trauma over the tiniest perceived criticism? We can't please everyone. And sometimes what you NEED to hear is not going to be the same as what you WANT to hear. That's still not bashing.

No one said she's a bad mother. The advice was in order to change the behavior she doesn't like from her child, she needs to take a different approach. They also gave their opinions on the nature of what the child was receiving and why it would cause the child to cry by going without or even be harmful to the child.

Yes... get a grip EVERYONE. Woman up, put your big-girl panties on, and don't let some anonymous stranger turn you into a quivering, crying mass of goo. Seriously, people! If you find an answer that is helpful to you, fantastic! But if you don't agree with the advice you're given, then search elsewhere. We're just one source. If you think you already know the correct answer and are looking for validation, go find other opinions that support you. But do so knowing that not everyone will have the same opinion as you, and that's okay.

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Jodi - posted on 01/10/2016

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Kristina, as we have pointed out, there is no such thing as sugar-free juice. It is no-added sugar juice, but ALL juice has sugar in it because there is natural sugar in fruit. It seems a lot of people are of the misconception that there is such a thing as sugar-free juice and need to do their homework.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/08/2016

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Sarah, every now and again, I find that post just to see if Cori has come back. I will try to find it and "bump" it again.

I am not talking about repetition in advice, I am strictly talking about delivery.

Sarah - posted on 01/08/2016

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Me too. I lose track of interesting posts like the one who thinks she is pregnant and the baby can hide during US and all of her labs are negative etc. It is interesting to follow the dialog and if you don't post you get left out.

Raye - posted on 01/08/2016

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Dove, I totally agree about possibly never finding it again. I don't always get notices for whatever reason on stuff I have posted on, and sometimes only by chance see it's been active.

Dove - posted on 01/08/2016

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If you don't comment... you don't get notifications though, so w/ 50000000000000 auto spammers... you won't be able to follow the post or possibly ever see it again... ;)

So what do you say if you have the same opinion that's been posted multiple times? Ditto. lol

Raye - posted on 01/08/2016

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I also like to see my opinions confirmed, but I've tried refraining from comment and just marking you ladies' posts as helpful unless I have something new to add. That way, the OP isn't bombarded. But on the flip side, if someone doesn't agree with a piece of advice, wouldn't seeing it reiterated by several different people possibly make the person want to reconsider that it may actually be viable advice? (Not that the masses can't be wrong, but it should be given at least consideration and not dismissed immediately because it doesn't vibe with a current, specific [possibly narrow] viewpoint).

Sarah - posted on 01/08/2016

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A final perspective is (and this happened to me when I was brand new here) in defense of the OP who feels "bashed" or "attacked" When you post a question and you get ten response in a row that say, stop, do this, do that , don't do this/that etc. it can get to you. If a poster had gotten one or two responses that tell you ( in this case, stop giving juice) she may have not been as defensive as she was after 8-10 people telling her the same thing.
I am NOT saying we should hold back at all! I like it when my opinion is affirmed in responses. And I like it when moms disagree with me s it give me chance to rethink my parenting. Bring on the opinions ladies!
A great example is a post that came last night of a mom whose son shares TMI. I was the first responder and I really thought; am I wrong to think this lady is way off base by not wanting her kids to be a font of info? Am I missing something? then more moms posted after me and helped me feel more confident in my opinion.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/08/2016

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dDon't you see this is becoming a trend with mainly new people? Maybe it isn't the advice, maybe it is how it is being delivered. Like it was said in the other post, a person cannot hear TONE intended while reading, but someone can dictate how it sounds in their own head. These people don't know you, you don't know them. But I am noticing more and more complaints from new members feeling attacked, judged, bashed, or ganged up on. It creates defensiveness, and harsh replies from both sides. Hell, I have to stop and read what I wrote before posting and see if it sounds the way I want it to. It might not sound bad to you, but it might to others. In no way does it mean the advice is bad, but delivery can be damaging if it sounds harsh. Many times, the good advice is ignored due to perceived tone.

We have a TON of spam to run people off, it shouldn't be other members causing the damage whether intended or not. I enjoy seeing new members interact. I don't want to see them continuously run off.

Jodi - posted on 01/08/2016

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Actually, Jessica, noone "bashed" you. They gave you constructive advice.

Jessica - posted on 01/08/2016

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Another mother bashing feed thanks to the ladies that where kind, as for the rest of you I thank god I don't know people like you! 🙄 I've started managing to slowly dilute the juice down further, baby steps. 😅 I'll no longer be commenting or using this site peace out xx

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/07/2016

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*MoD WaRnInG*

I have had to delete 2 posts due to in thread/personal attacks. Please refrain from in thread bickering and name calling. We are all adults here that have differing opinions. Lets try to respect each other or this thread will be locked to further discussion.

~WtCoM MoD LiTtLe MiSs~

Edited to add- This post escalated unnecessarily quickly. It's just JUICE ladies.

Tina - posted on 01/07/2016

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I will no longer be responding to this conversation. I don't think I am staying with this site. I didn't come here to feel like I am an inadequate mother because I am no where near it. Have a great day.

Tina - posted on 01/07/2016

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I think you guys can encourage her without being so brash... Honestly I agree with you all but you DO NOT need to be so harsh and mean.. If I was her I would be running for the hills now for asking anyone advice.... Come on girls... We can educate without being mean.

Gena - posted on 01/06/2016

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I also agree with the other ladies! You have to stop giving him juice even if he throws a tantrum.

Michelle - posted on 01/06/2016

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I agree with the other ladies. You need to learn how to deal with the tantrums and let him know that they won't work.
Yes the juice isn't needed and he's now addicted to the sugar in it, that's why he has a tantrum when you give him water.
The others have had some good advice on how to deal with the tantrums. Maybe even look into some parenting classes that focus on toddler tantrums. You need to get those under control now as it's only going to get worse as he gets older and knows that he can always get what he wants. You also have another child on the way so you need to get his behaviour under control now.

Jodi - posted on 01/06/2016

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Um, juice is made from fruit. There is sugar in it. There may not be ADDED sugar in it, but there is sugar in it. And it is not a healthy addiction for your child to have. You are teaching him the need for something sweet all the time.

You need to learn to step up and parent. Is it harder to put up with a tantrum and ignore it? Or harder to get up all night changing him? Ask yourself that. And if you give in to tantrums about juice, I assure you, there will come other tantrums about other things because you will have taught him you give in to his tantrums. Will you give in to those too? The more tantrums you give in to, the worse the tantrums will get. It's time to learn how to manage those tantrums without giving in.

I am sorry you found my first post so unhelpful. Or is it just that you after a solution where you could continue to allow him to have his way but just without the waking at night? "it's easier said than done to let him get upset". That's right, it is. No-one said it was going to be easy. I am quite aware how difficult it can be when a toddler throws a tantrum - I've raised a few. You just need to harden up.

Dove - posted on 01/06/2016

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Even juicing your own... 4oz a day is way more than enough for a toddler. ;)

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 01/06/2016

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Ok, Juice is NOT the best thing to introduce, EVER. Way too much sugar and additives.

Yeah he's going to throw fits, you're taking the yummy sugary substance and trying to introduce the correct one. He wants the sugary sweet concoction, not the healthy one. Sorry, sweetie, but juice is NOT healthy! Not unless you're juicing your own.

Quit making excuses, and do what you need to do. Stop giving in. You are the parent. You need to enforce things. He throws fits because he's got your number. You give in too easily.

Sarah - posted on 01/06/2016

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I agree that you need to nip this habit of drinking all night. Once he realizes he won't get any juice, he will probably decide it isn't worth his time to wake to drink water. I disagree that is isn't affecting (or will potentially affect) his teeth. Juice has sugar in it, whether it has added sugar or not; if it is made from fruit, then there is fructose in the juice. I understand your point that everything we eat can cause tooth decay and yet we still feed our children. However, when he drinks juice and then falls to sleep, the traces of the juice sit on his teeth in his closed, dark, warm and moist mouth. This is the perfect recipe for the bacteria that causes tooth decay to grow. The best way to nip a tantrum is to ignore it, let him go berserk, he will wear himself out eventually.

Dove - posted on 01/06/2016

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And honestly... unless you are brushing his teeth throughout the night... there is definite risk to his teeth. That juice is pooling on them and just sitting there while he sleeps.

It really doesn't matter how long it's been going on... The only way a 16 month old gets 'addicted' to juice is if the parents allow an unhealthy habit to develop. Juice all day, every day isn't 'good' for anyone. Even if there is only one ounce per bottle... that's 4oz of juice per night which is already more juice than a toddler should get in 24 hours. and how much is he also getting in the daytime?!

Tina - posted on 01/06/2016

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No- you are right... You aren't hurting his health by giving him juice but by giving into his tantrums and getting him into juice habit you are setting yourself up for hell (excuse my language) later.... I know tantrums are hard and as mother's sometimes we just cannot deal with the screams and tears, but for your mental sanity you have to start breaking the habit NOW or it will get a lot worse. My daughter has a sippy cup addiction, and although I have not elimainated the sippy cup she now knows... Unless it is meal time the sippy will ONLY have water and if she doesn't like it then she can wait for a cuppy until meal time... Sometimes she cries but I calmly tell her what is happeneing and why.... Even if she still screams and it drives me crazy or makes me want to cry if I dont stand my ground she knows that she can walk all over me. You have to lay down the law or they realize that they are the sheriff and then everything gets really miserable.

Dove - posted on 01/06/2016

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Stop giving him juice completely. Only give him water and let him freak the heck out.

Once the addiction is broken you can try going back to giving him an ounce or two of juice (w/ water) a couple of times/week.

If you can't handle him having a tantrum at 16 months over something completely useless and potentially harmful (I don't give a rip that he is healthy NOW... he's still a baby)... good luck when he gets older cuz it's just going to get worse.

We have to parent our children.

Jessica - posted on 01/06/2016

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And it's not bad for his health my doctor confirmed this it's just inconvenient for me! And as for his teeth, as long as he's getting them brushed twice a day it's all good! Everything is bad for teeth so is baby food but we still have to feed our kids!

Tina - posted on 01/06/2016

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Unfortunately as hard as it will be- you cannot give in anymore...... I am hoping for you- positive vibes.

Jessica - posted on 01/06/2016

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It's sugar free baby juice :/ but I agree he does drink too much juice but it's easier said than done to let him get upset and I never stated how long this has been going on for so please if your not going to offer advice please take your judgement else where!

Jodi - posted on 01/06/2016

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That is WAY too much juice, even if diluted. Sorry, but he shouldn't be drinking that much juice. At his age he doesn't NEED juice. STOP giving him juice at night (yes, you are enabling this behaviour). You know why he has tantrums when you try swapping for water or saying no? because it works. You give in. You need to STOP giving in. This much juice is bad for his health (too much sugar) and bad for his teeth. Let him have the tantrum, but make it clear he is NOT getting the juice. Unfortunately, you have allowed this to go on for too long and now it is going to be a hard habit to break.

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