My smart son

Angie - posted on 06/08/2011 ( 33 moms have responded )

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My son has been saying mommy since he was like 4 months old. Now that he is 1 we got him that kit for his birthday. Children can read, for ages 5 mos to 4 yrs. he watches it twice a day and has learn alot, even claping. That is one gift that was worth the money. we got him the entire set DVD 1-5 with the books and cards at the local walmart. He has been talking up a storm and knows what he is saying and what others are saying. Hes so smart. All I asked for in life was for my son to be smart and at 1 he is basically a genius.

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Jenni - posted on 06/08/2011

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Typically before the age of 8-9 months when babies 'babble' some of the first consanant sounds they make is 'Ma ma ma" or "da da da" this babble is indiscriminate. My daughter started saying ma ma ma around 5-6 months when she was hungry. They don't tend to make the association between sounds or words and objects/people until around 8-9 months at the earliest.

I personally don't agree with the "Your baby can read" fad. As it teaches children to mimic and not necessarily understand the meaning behind what they are mimicing. When they 'learn' to spell they are identifying the word as an object. The same as when you look at a ball and think "BALL". It isn't teaching them the foundation of reading which is understanding sounds of letters and stringing those sounds together to form a word.



This can be achieved by first teaching your son his letters and the sounds they make. By skipping that step, I believe you will be stunting your child in reading rather than promoting his ability to read.



My son had a natural fascination for letters in his books around 1 years old and would point them out and want to know what the names of the letters were. I used this opportunity to teach him and by 18 months he could identify all of them both by pointing them out when asked and naming verbally the letter. This worked with numbers, colours, and shapes as well.

Remember you are your child's best teacher. Not a DVD.



I am under no false pretenses that just because my son learned these things fairly early that by the time he reaches kindergarten he will be no further advanced than the other children in school as the ones who don't know those things will be caught up while my son is relearning those lessons.



All children excell in different areas. Some children will be better mechanically, mathematically, physically, creatively, at problem solving, socially etc. They are all equally important attributes to have and overall no child is any smarter than the next. Where one excels mathematically and struggles socially another will excel socially but struggle mathematically.



It is our job as parents to raise well-rounded children and encourage their strengths and guide them through their struggles.



This is just my opinion but I believe if you set the expectation bars too high your son will have too much to live up to and you as his parent will have to much to live up to. There is nothing wrong with encouragment but pressuring a child beyond his means is a recipe for disaster and failure. He will either reject your pressuring him and grow to hate the things he once loved or he will feel like a failure and never good enough in your eyes.

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So video games are bad but plopping the 1 year old in front of the "Babies can Read" Dvd kit is better? Ok...to each his own.

Listen, if you go about bragging your 1 year old is gifted, you are going to rub people the wrong way. Is it posible your kid might be advanced in comparison to his 12 month peers? Possibly! But academically advanced? I do question that. I did my Graduate research in Gifted Education and solely worked with the Gifted population as my district's Gifted Coordinator. It is quite possible that your child is gift, maybe maybe not. But big deal he is meeting his developmental milestones. Possibly earlier than others. What you are describing is sending huge flags as a parent who is pushing their child to BE THE BEST and failure is not an option?! REALLY?! I believe you have access to university research. Try researching Gifted Kids & Depression, Gifted Kids & Suicide, Gifted kids & Asynchronous Behavior, Gifted Kids & Parent Relations/expectations, Gifted Kids & Failure, Gifted Kids & AP/IB coursework, Gifted Kids & Drop-outs. Sometimes kids NEED to fail to get a reality check! I had a 9th grader this past year who got a 72% on her final exam and brought her overall average down to a 96% in English. She NEEDED that relaity check that she excels is so many areas, she is bright and has an amazing future-but she CANNOT expect to be perfect in everything. I fear a lot of disappointment in you over the years.

Alyssa - posted on 06/09/2011

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Come back when you child is 18 and tell me how much of a genius he is for watching "educational dvd's

Doyou realise that by getting him to watch dvd's now you are perfectly setting him up to sit in front of a computer screen all day?? Just like your brother....

Oh, and it takes a few more things than some educational toys to raise a child well

Sherri - posted on 06/08/2011

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Angie he isn't smart he is just a curious baby. Plain and simple. I feel so badly for children being raised in these sort of environments and secondly as a teacher it is strongly NOT recommended the programs that supposedly teach them to read early. It actually sets them back because they don't learn how to read correctly and be able to use phonics. The children that have used this program then need to be retaught how to read correctly.

Jenni - posted on 06/08/2011

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Ok, now I'm starting to jump on the 'troll' bandwagon.
Listen Angie, if you are being serious... I'm sorry. But your whole video game example threw me through a loop and seems completely off topic.
Are you saying because we don't buy infomercial gimics for our children we are instead letting them play violent age-inappropriate video games and using cheat codes? huh?
Or you are one of the few moms out there that discourages cheating and stealing? That makes you a strict mother?
I'm pretty sure those are all normal things parents discourage. It doesn't exactly set you apart.

I think we all took issue with the fact that you're buying into those scam DVDs and expect your son to do something that isn't possible at his age, which is read! Because in order to read you first have to learn to identify letters and their sounds. Reading is not memorizing words. Just to be clear.

Claiming your one year old is a genius is just jumping the gun a little imo. I'm not saying your son isn't smart but there are plenty of children who reach all the milestones your son has at the same age.

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Jillian - posted on 08/30/2011

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I belive it..My son is now 3 and his memory is better than mines, he can recall lil insignificant details that happned since he was 1yrs old. I mean he can tell me who was in front of us line at grocery stores, what they were wearing, and all types of details that people overlook in general. Not only that, but his imagination is out of this world. I never did the "your baby can read" stuff. He started talkin in full sentences a lil after 15months and cud point to every picture in a 500page book and tell u what it was, Im not sure how "gifted" He is but I know his memory exceeds mines and im 31 !

Jenni - posted on 06/09/2011

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That's so true Erin. My poor sister suffers from anxiety as well. She has always been exceptionally smart and my parents didn't pressure her either. They were always very proud of her accomplishments. She developed a fear of failure on her own. I think she based a lot of who she was on what mark she received on tests, exams. The first time she received less than 90% on a test she bawled her eyes out the entire night. She cried when she received a C in gym class and it brought her average down. This was just in gradeschool. In HS and University she put even more pressure on herself to succeed and be the best. She was always stressed about University... meanwhile, she was on the Dean's list and had a 11.5-12.0/13.

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Is this for real? You think you can label a baby as a genius? hahahaha



On a serious note... I was a G&T kid. I could read and write before I started kindergarten and did accelerated learning all through primary school. I then went to a G&T high school, then on to University. You know what it got me? An anxiety problem. And my parents were not even close to being as pushy as you appear to be. Give your poor baby a break.

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Failure is not acceptable resistance is futile you will be a genius son ha ha ha you sound like tha Borg from Star Trek

Sneaky - posted on 06/09/2011

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius

"Genius (plural geniuses) is something or someone embodying exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality, typically to a degree that is associated with the achievement of unprecedented insight."

" Genius is expressed in a variety of forms (e.g. mathematical, literary, performance) Genius may show itself in early childhood, as a prodigy with particular gifts (e.g. understanding), or later in life. Geniuses are often deemed as such after demonstrating great originality. They tend to have strong intuitions about their domains, and they build on these insights with tremendous energy. There is also cited link between creativity of genius and genetic mutations linked to psychosis."

" Anders Ericsson argues that generally (with highly demanding fields like theoretical physics as the exception), after a person's IQ surpasses 120, their success is determined more by other qualities. In other words, there may be general decreasing return on raw mental power. Ericsson proposes social skills as an example of other qualities that are then more relevant to success. He also warns that IQ does not measure what many would consider "creativity" - sometimes measured by looking at an individual's Latent inhibition instead of IQ."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_prodi...

"A child prodigy is someone who, at an early age, masters one or more skills far beyond their level of maturity. One criterion for classifying prodigies is: a prodigy is a child, typically younger than 18 years old, who is performing at the level of a highly trained adult in a very demanding field of endeavour. "

You can check wiki yourself to look up the references for the above statements.

Sneaky - posted on 06/08/2011

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" All I asked for in life was for my son to be smart and at 1 he is basically a genius. "

See if I thought my child might be a genius I would be here asking questions like: how do I get him professionally assessed? where do I find good guidance for exceptionally gifted children so he doesn't grow up and kill himself? Should 'genius' children be put into early learning, or is it better to let them explore on their own and develop their motor skills before focusing on the intellectual?

See, mostly you have just come off as a bragget who doesn't actually care about your son's health or well being, as long as he is 'better' than all the 'other' kids.

And yes, I do still feel sorry for you and your son. If he is a genius there is no way he is ever going to fit in with 'normal', no matter how much you want him to - he won't. So instead of being here bragging about it, you should be using your time to research the best ways to help him and support him. You are going to need all the help you can get.

Angie - posted on 06/08/2011

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OK, so no one really read what all I wrote. I am @ school and work almost full time. My husband watches those crazy movies and games and I can't stand the fact that he sits our son there to watch all that. The DVDs do work however, we have noticed he is speaking a lot more and knows what he is saying. we do not push him for anything, he just really loves watching TV, so why can't it be something educational? And I clearly typed that yes you do fail, everyone does sooner or later, but the point it to learn from it, come back from it, and succeed. THAT is the POINT. No I am not a troll and I am not strict, our son loves us very much and shows it my hugging us and dancing on us. He is a very happy boy, and healthy. He has not been sick once in his entire life. And the whole genus thing, and this goes for all of here. All of our kids are smart, and we all want what is best for them. Genus was just the topic, not a fact. I am not saying I am the greatest mom and my son will graduate when he is 5 (which I have heard of that, not sure if it is true or not) but anyway, Does anyone understand what I am saying now. My little bro grew up on video games and computers and guess what? He is 20 now, still at home with the parents, No girlfriend or outside friends, had never had a job, does not have a drivers license and all he does all day is play video games and gets on the internet to look up cheats, I seen how he was raised and grew up, and I do not want that for my son, Tell me "would you want that for your kid/s if that made them happy doing nothing, just wasting away?" I don't want that for my son, and will do anything to prevent it because that is no way to live. I am very disappointed at my brother. And just so you know, I was not the one that raised him.

Amanda - posted on 06/08/2011

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Don't babies just parrot or mimick at this age??? A one yr old that can read?? I don't think so
How can you say your son isn't allowed to fail. Surely failing or not being the best at something is all part of life and learning and makes us who we are.
My daughter is 1 and she can sing her ABCs (she knows every letter and in the right order and she says them clearly so others can understand her and she also watches people write and will start singing so she knows what letters are). Does she recognise individual letters and tell me what they are?? No she only a baby. Its a pretty smart thing to be able to do but she's not a genius.

Why can't we just enjoy our kids being babies instead of trying to force our kids to grow up faster than they need to

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Angie - I've read research showing that kids should not be put in front of the TV/DVD at all until they're 2... It would be better to read books to him and sing and clap etc yourself rather than put on a DVD.



PS all this talk about respect and not failing... I hope you'll be able to teach him to be a nice person too, to be compassionate and caring about the people around him. And not take himself too seriously. That's more important in my opinion.

Lady Heather - posted on 06/08/2011

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My kid has the fine motor skills a full year beyond her age and advanced language comprehension but she still shits her pants, so who cares?

September - posted on 06/08/2011

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Our son failed to get all of his pee into the toilet this morning...but I would never make him feel badly about it or like he was a failure. There's always next time :) When our son counts to 20 he sometimes forgets 17...do I point it out? No I just count along with him the next time and make sure we get 17 in there. He would never know he missed it the first time around.

September - posted on 06/08/2011

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I feel bad for children who are brought up thinking they can't fail....failing is a part of life!

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Failure isn't an option and respect is a must..... You do realize that's an oxymoron, right? How can you have respect for your own child if you can't even recognize the fact that he MIGHT just fail at something?

I started to write out a bunch more, but realized I've already made that attempt here and if you're too blind to see it.... well, it's not my kid. Good luck!

September - posted on 06/08/2011

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When it comes to learning we follow our son's lead and feed his intrest in healthy ways such as reading books daily, he loves to read, listening and dancing to music, he loves music and loves to dance, play outside and explore what nature provides, he loves to be outside. My mother in law is a teacher and has told me that those DVD’s that you’re referring to are actually horrible and hinder the ability to learn once children start grade school. Our son is 2.5 years old and is smart as well. I’ll resist from listing out everything he’s accomplished but I will say children can excel in life without sitting in front of a tv or repeating things over and over again. I think our son would go nuts if I sat him in front of the tv with the exception that he would learn something from sitting there watching it. I also think our son would get super annoyed if I repeated things over and over again. I’m not trying to knock your parenting skills I’m just saying there are creative healthy ways to allow children to learn without putting pressure on them and sometimes it takes failing to learn.

Jenni - posted on 06/08/2011

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hehe my one year old tries to put sock on her feet, pants on her legs, hats on her head, shirts over her head. She's been doing it since she was 7 months old. It's so cute.
Maybe she's going to be a gifted fashion designer. ;) I better buy her a manikin and sewing machine. I can't wait for when they come out with the "Your Baby Can Sew" DVD.

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Oh the video game thing! Hysterical-my kid LOVES the VTech VSmile games and they are all educational and appropriate. My 6 year old reading level is 3rd grade. Big whoopie deal! It just tells me as a parent, AND as an educator, what his comprehension level is at so I can supplement with grade level appropriate material. Same with math-he's above his 6 year old peers-big deal. That means I supplement with more challenging content or teach new skills. That does NOT mean my kid is gifted! Smart-yeah, above Kindergarten grade level, yeah. Gifted?! Probably not.

Angie - posted on 06/08/2011

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we are not pushing him at all. We all talked about this and went over it. It is just something that my son was ready for. Failure is something he will not have while living with me ( I mean he may not get a snack before supper) but that is about it. Failure is not an option to any of our family, the only failure we know of is to learn from it, come back from it and succeed. That is the proper way. And yes RESPECT is a must.

Angie - posted on 06/08/2011

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you know along with that gift he got one of those boxes that you put shapes in. It sings music and all, on one setting it tells you the shape you put in, the the other settings tell you the color and # on the block. I thought that was pretty smart. All I know is that he loves his gifts and has a blast with them. he also has his sand box and swimming pool to play in, so it is not all work no play. I just don't want my kid growing up the way I see the others around here stuck to a video game, killing people and all. I Think video games are the worst for kids, they have improved them to make you think which is good, but don't work to well when they put cheat codes out there for you finish or upgrade the game. Cheating is A BIG NO NO, on my part, and so is stealing. so If you think I am a strict mother, so be it but by son will show respect for his parents and others like he has good sense. Call me crazy if you want, but treat others how you would like to be treated, and teach proper English instead of slang.

Jenni - posted on 06/08/2011

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Hey, my daughter learned to clap at 6 months and said 'mama' at 5 months. Without a DVD, all on her own. She also says and understands words and requests at a year old.
Come to think of it so did my step daughter and son.
I must have a family of geniuses ♥

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If you can't reread the post that you just wrote and realize that you have insanely high expectations for a child that is merely an INFANT right now.... well, I really hope he's as brilliant as you say he is or he's really going to disappoint you. :(

Angie - posted on 06/08/2011

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OK, I have to stop you right there, every since my son was born we have been singing him the ABC's as a lullaby. He loves it and understands it, we are in fact his teacher, that's why books and flash cards came with the kit. the video is just for him to watch twice a day, the rest we do, by explaining things in a way we know he is understanding, and I believe he will fit in fine with the others, because he will be normal, he will just be smart. The whole point is to repeat words over and over. When I started school, I was ahead, I knew my ABC's 123's all that, even my address and phone #, My parents did not know that I knew all of that but I had learned it from hearing it over and over. I know everything is going to work out great for him, because I am a great teacher and can explain things in ways that people and kids can understand really, really easy. Were did I pick up this Gift from? I do not know. But know for fact that is works because I have taught all different ages and the only failure is because they did not listen to me.

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A genius at a year? Yep... you're not putting any pressure on him there. ;)

My kids are smart and my girls basically taught themselves to read at 3.5, but I certainly wouldn't call them geniuses. They ARE smart, but what causes them to excel is their love for learning.... not how fast/early they've learned to do specific things.

The not quite 9 month old baby girl that I watched learned how to clap recently.... cuz she loves music. :)

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That's great you got what you wanted.

Personally I'd like my kids to be healthy, kind, happy, caring, basically well rounded individuals who don't grow up to view life as a series of achievements they need to attain for approval.

Medic - posted on 06/08/2011

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I have to agree with everything the other Jennifer said. Setting ridiculous bars for your children to jump to is sad and will only lead to resentment and or hurt. Pushing kids to grow up too fast is what is wrong with society. Why can't parents just appreciate what their children do naturally as they grow? The whole your baby can read is a joke. All you are teaching your kids is memorization it has nothing to do with reading. They are simply seeing the words as pictures not as letters put together to make words. So great for you, want a cookie? Your simply setting your child up for failure.

Sneaky - posted on 06/08/2011

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I'm so sorry :o( Your poor son is either never going to live up to expectations, or he really will be a genius (I don't think they can even do IQ testing until his brain has developed for a few more years) and he will be miserable because he doesn't fit in with 'normal' people. That really sucks.

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