Need to vent . . . whopping cough.

Sneaky - posted on 06/15/2010 ( 27 moms have responded )

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I am NOT interested in starting a debate here, I have had a day full of stress and anxiety and I simply need to tell the universe:

ALL PEOPLE THAT REFUSE TO BE VACCINATED OR VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND DEPORTED TO AN ISLAND SO THEY CAN NOT INFECT THE REST OF US.

Typically I try not to judge other people's choices (I am not perfect either) but when I spend half a day trying to nurse my four week old baby girl, who can not attach for more than a few minutes at a time before she has a coughing fit and vomits phlegm and milk onto me, when I have to hold her down so she can have a chest x-ray, when I have to watch my husband hold her head still so a nurse can stick a plastic tube up her nose and into her throat to take a sample to test for whopping cough then I get a little grumpy.

For the record, the doctors do not really think that she has whopping cough, they are trying to be pro-active and want to eliminate the possibility. I am also fully breast feeding her (ha, ha, ha . . . when she can actually eat and hold down milk) and I was vaccinated against whopping cough only two years ago so in theory she should be protected by my immunity, but still, because of the inconsiderate members of society who can't be bothered immunizing themselves or their kids her doctors have to consider the possibility she could have been exposed to whopping cough. . .

Vent over. I hope the universe was listening.

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Jodi - posted on 06/19/2010

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I'm not going to weigh into any debates, but I agree with you, and I am so sorry your little one has been affected. I remember when my daughter came home from hospital (after being in the special care nursery for a variety of issues) how concerned I was about this, especially with having to pick up and drop of my son from school (and the exposure that brings). So I sincerely hope your bub recovers quickly, and hugs to you and your family. When something is so preventable, I can't understand the mentality of those who choose not to prevent, especially as this particular vaccine has been around since I was a baby (and that is over 40 years ago), so it is hardly in experimental stages!!

Kym - posted on 06/15/2010

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I think you mean "whOOping cough" sweetie ;)

Not going to chime in on the vaccination debate, but sorry your LO is sick.
Have you tried holding her in a warm, steamy room for a while? You can also put some kind of vapour rub on the soles of their feet at that age I think? (Not on their chest)

My son is 9 months and is also coughing until he vomits every morning- it's not fun.

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MaryAnn - posted on 10/22/2015

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Samaya- there are two ways this can happen. The first is timing. If someone is exposed before the vaccination, or before the inactivated virus is faught off, they do not have immunity from the vaccine yet and cn get sick. This happens often with the flu shot- often these people claim that it was the vaccine that made them sick- and this is not true. The only way a vaccine can make you sick is if the needle/syringe has been used, the skin was not disinfected prior to injection, the vaccine had not been stored properly (this shouldnt happen if you see a legitimate health care professional) or the person has an allergy to a component in the vaccine (they usually contain eggs, and sometimes a persons allergy is so mild that eating does not cause noticeable distress, but injection does).
The second way this happens is a bit of a mystery. Are you older than the chicken pox vaccine? They always said you can only get chicken pox once... This is true for most people. Then. There are some people who for reasons beyond explanation fight off chicken pox once, and then years later care for a child who has it believing they are safe, and somehow contract it a second (or even third) time. Cant explain why. Certainly not normal. But it just happens. For some reason they didnt build up immunity. Its relatively rare, but sometimes happens with vaccines, too.

Samayantra - posted on 10/22/2015

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Ladies do we know why if our kids are vaccinated they can still potentially be infected by conditions such as whooping cough? Aren t the vaccines supposed to stop that from happening?

Tania - posted on 06/21/2010

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I can't agree more. Vent away, I am going through the same thing with my little one. However, we have ruled out whopping cough as the culprit. It baffles my mind that there are parents out there that actually 'choose' not to go ahead with immunization. I hope you and your little one are feeling much better today.

Sherri - posted on 06/19/2010

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Where do you live Sarah? I walked in to the urgent care center told them what I thought we had and they tested my son and I right then. That is nuts!!

Sarah - posted on 06/19/2010

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i have read ur post and i no how u feel i have a 3 month old who has whopping cough i went to 5 differant doctor and went 2 the hospital 5 times and no1 tested him for it till i had enough and took him 2 the childrens hospital who then did test and found that he had it but my poor baby had it for 5 weeks b4 they even did a test. i hope ur lil hirl get better soon.

Sneaky - posted on 06/16/2010

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Yes Kym, I did mean whOOping cough . . are you seriously going to pick on my spelling right now???? :o) Yes, I am smiling.

Thank you so much for all the well wishes, after spending half of last night in the hospital, Bub does seem to be doing a bit better (fingers crossed!!!). Has yet to throw up a feed today! We go to see doc for whooping cough results tomorrow, in the meantime we are working on the theory that she has bronchiolitis, basically a viral infection that we can not do anything about :o( Just need to wait it out and monitor her in case she needs oxygen support.

As to potential whooping cough exposure at her age - I do know that all the adults that I have allowed to hold her have had their booster shots, but I wonder if she could have been exposed when I have been picking her sisters up from pre-school and daycare? For some reason there are also a large number of older women who feel compelled to TOUCH her every time I take her out shopping . . . I have a family history of depression so isolating myself and bub in the house until after her six week vaccinations was never going to be an option for me, plus there is no vaccination against the virus that causes bronchiolitis anyway, so as much as I would LOVE to blame myself for this, I think I have to blame the universe at this point. Though I do admit I have said to hubby a number of times now that if she does have a positive result for the whooping cough test I am going to hunt down the person that gave it to her and hurt them . . .not too sure of the logistics of that right now, but I will figure it out if necessary.

Tisha, I don't know what virus causes croup, I suppose it could be what she has but her cough doesn't have that horrible gasping/barking sound at the end of it. She is only four weeks old though so it might be different in newborns???

Either way (whooping cough or not) I had a hell of a day yesterday and having to watch her have the sample collected to test for whopping cough was really distressing. I wish it hadn't been necessary and I DO blame all the people that do not vaccinate for making it necessary. I am glad that there are other mothers out there that feel that way too :o)

Tisha - posted on 06/15/2010

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are you sure its not croup? croup is a viral infection that is often confused with whooping cough. and there is no vaccine against that.

Sherri - posted on 06/15/2010

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But they would never be kept home for a cold for any other thing. So I guess things like that don't bother me in the least. As long as they don't have a fever or vomiting they really shouldn't be made to stay home for a runny nose or cough IMO.

Elisabeth - posted on 06/15/2010

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School is differant, as is daycare as some people have no choice. But playgroup is not a nessesity other then for the children and mothers to socialise and have time out. I know the kids might miss out on having a bit of fun and seeing their friends but just because one mum wants to come and socialise doesn't mean every other mum wants to spend the rest of the week comforting their poor sick child and then thier child misses out instead. It's really selfish and careless.

Sherri - posted on 06/15/2010

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Just wait till your kids go to school you can not keep them home for every runny nose or cough. Neither can every other parent so the germs run rampant then. Then the older kids bring it home to every other family member.

Elisabeth - posted on 06/15/2010

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I know exactly where you are coming from and i hope your little girl gets better ASAP! Another thing that annoys me is when mothers bring there kids to playgroup when they are sick. It's not like they didn't notice their kids coughing and that fountain of green snot pouring out their nose and some of them even openly talk about how sick their kids are. "Oh I had almost no sleep last night because I was up with ____ all night while they coughed and vomited." I just want to jump up and shake them and scream , "Then why the hell did you bring them here!" There are several posters around the centre saying don't bring your child if they are sick and even if have a list of things to watch out for and they even make you sign a form saying you won't bring them if they are sick when you join the group. But when someone says that we all sit in silence because we don't want to be 'the bitch', but we're all thinking the same thing. "Must make sure my child goes no where near him/her today." I hate it!

Sarah - posted on 06/15/2010

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THANK YOU Tracey for your post! I agree with you 100%! I just can't imagine not vaccinating my child. It never even crossed my mind not to vaccinate him!

It breaks my heart what your little girl is going through right now!!! I hope your daughter starts feeling better ASAP!

Melinda - posted on 06/15/2010

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I feel your pain and hope your little one feels better soon...for both your sakes!

Iridescent - posted on 06/15/2010

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Rebecca, as a day care provider, you are required to have vaccination records of the children on file (unless you were not licensed). You should have been aware of this prior to doing one day of care.

I agree, people with no medical need not to vaccinate (and not the autism debate, because that is proven to be linked to fever now and not vaccines) should be required to do so.

Katherine - posted on 06/15/2010

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This is going to turn into a debate whether or not you want it too....hopefully it remains civil.

Angie - posted on 06/15/2010

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I agree. My middle child was born with a hole in her heart and it really irritated me that others were taking a chance with MY child's life. I am tired of hearing the "there isn't any polio anymore so I don't need to vaccinate" HELLO, how the heck do you think we've wiped this out in the US? People immigrating or visiting the US can bring this disease (and many others) to us and then where will we be?????? I hope your baby is feeling better soon.

Rebecca - posted on 06/15/2010

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My son became deathly ill as well when he was 2 years old. I also had a 2 months old baby girl and was doing childcare in my home. It was only AFTER my son almost died that the family i watched informed me they didn't vaccinate. I was horrified! I let them go and now i ask everyone before they even step foot in my home and i ask for proof.
Sorry your little one is so sick and i hope it's nothing too serious. I agree that shame on people for not vaccinating. The whole "it causes autism" is getting old. My nephew is autistic and guess what, it wasn't due to a shot. I wont turn this in to a debate, but i'm very glad you put this out there so MAYBE others can see what it's like for us who try to protect our kids and do the right thing and still get infected by those who don't really give a crap!

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My son from about 11 months would get whooping cough and would end up in emergency about 5 times a year. We bought a humidifier and its on every night while he is sleeping. This is cause by a simple virus but because their air passge is so small it swells and they have a hard time breathing. I wash his hands often if hes playing outside or we use public transit we have sanitiser and i know its mean but if any family member is sick they are not allowed over its hard on mom's when we have a sick baby and no sleep. good luck

Emily - posted on 06/15/2010

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I'm glad you said it and not me :) but I totally agree. I had similar feelings when we brought my daughter home from the NICU at just over 4lb. and not able to be vaccinated for many things yet.

Rogina - posted on 06/15/2010

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I had whooping cough as an adult. It sucked. I was vaccinated from it as well.I think you need a booster at some point and I didn't get it.

Sherri - posted on 06/15/2010

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At 4 wks where was she that she could have been exposed? At only 4 wks old I can't imagine she would be around to many people.

Tracy - posted on 06/15/2010

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I hear you! Where I live we have the ones that not only don't vaccinate, but sanitize EVERYTHING. Then wonder why schools have to put out warning letters to parents about Scarlett Fever. Really? Something that hasn't been common in this country since my grandmother was a child is coming back? 5 minutes of pain from a needle stick is well worth avoiding illnesses that could seriously maim or kill my kids.



Your poor little girl! I hope she gets better soon. When my kids were tiny and still bfing, if they got sick I would take a bit of echinechea extract. It seemed to make the duration of their illnesses shorter, and kept me from getting sick



Good luck to you!

Sarah - posted on 06/15/2010

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You poor thing - what a horrible experience for you all to go though. I hated taking the kids for their jabs, but know you have to be cruel to be kind.

I agree with you regarding vaccinations. Due to the lack of uptake of the MMR jab where we live, there are regularly cases of measles going around the city, and although my kids have both had the MMR, I still dread them catching it.

Wishing you little girl a speedy recovery.

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