Partial Vaccination - anyone?

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My husband and I live in New York State and have chosen to partially vaccinate our two sons (ages 2.5yrs and 15 months). We chose to give the vaccinations that we believed to be the safest and the most necessary (after doing research, of course). Now we are finding out (as our oldest gets closer to school age) that we will be required to fully vaccinate before preschool or kindergarten. I know there is a religious exemption, but that is only if you do not want ANY vaccinations at all. Has anyone else chosen to partially vaccinate? How are you handling the school requirements? Is there a way to avoid getting some of the vaccines and still be admitted into school? Please help if you can! Thank you!


Elfrieda - posted on 08/21/2011




Okay, this won't answer your question exactly because I don't live in your area, but I think you should contact a lawyer to look at the rules, and then write you a letter explaining exactly what those rules are. Hopefully it won't be too pricey because it won't take very long to do.

I live in Ontario (Canada) and all the nurses say that you *have* to get vaccinated or you are not allowed into school, and private schools say the same. But they are all lying. Legally, it is allowed. My parents vaccinated my sister according to the schedule until she was almost 2, when my mom figured out that my sister was reacting really badly to some of the vaccines. She decided that there would be no more needles for my sister, and they got a menacing/informative letter from the lawyer to give to any officials who might insist otherwise.

My parents had to sign something saying it was for religious reasons. That was a problem at first, because they are Christians, but vaccines don't have anything to do with that, and they didn't want to lie. Then they said, "Well, my religion forbids me to harm my daughter" and they got around it that way. :) So my sister did have some vaccines but not others, and they still could claim religious reasons.

Obviously the rules could be different in your state, but it doesn't make sense that they would be, because how can they say that your religion doesn't forbid some vaccines and allow others? Maybe you could "convert" and "backslide" all the time, depending on which vaccines your kids are due for. ;)

Rosie - posted on 08/22/2011




joanna, you can enroll your children without having vaccinations, there is nothing forcing you to get them. of course they want you to, because it is a health risk for other children or yours, so they're going to make it seem like you need to have them but you really don't.

as for the MMR. i honestly don't understand why you wouldn't vaccinate against that. there have been NO, i repeat NO studies done that link autism to this vaccine. andrew wakefield isn't some poor, misunderstood railroaded individual. he LIED, falsified results to make it seem like the MMR vaccine had some link to autism. the parents of the children involved acknowledge this, that is why he lost his license and his "study" was named poppycock. he also was trying to make his own MMR vaccine to rival the current one. so he wasn't merely in this to help make sure the poor children of the world weren't autism's latest victims. he wanted to make his money too, involving himself with big pharma as well. anything regarding that man, is unethical to say the least, and hogwash absolutely.

Desiree - posted on 08/22/2011




Thank you and I understand where you are coming from. I am sad that so many people have so little faith that medical/gov don't do things in our best interest and instead are only out for themselves. I really think that is not the case, at least in the majority. Of course those who have, make those who do look bad. Im not one to trust blindly either, but I do try to see the good in things rather then only the bad. As far as Autism, I dont believe that the vaccines should be to blame, I think there are many factors and unfortunately there is just no way to know what will be the trigger. In time I feel that it will be discovered, but it takes time.
I still believe that vaccinating (fully) is the best choice and the benefits far out weight the risks. However, there will always be those who have reactions, and there is just no way to create something that will be 100% safe for everyone. My friends son had a reaction to his vaccines, and thus must be carefully monitored in the future. In some cases vaccines may not be possible at all, which makes it even more important that the rest of us who can are vaccinated to protect those w/out protection.
In the end, we all have the right to do what we deem to be the best for our children. And whether or not I, or anyone else, agree is irrelevant. However I do worry that there is a lot of unfounded and out right wrong information that people base their decisions on and that concerns me greatly. Whether or not to vaccinate should be something you work with your doctor with. If you feel you cannot trust your doctor then you should find one you can trust.

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This will be lengthy, so please bear with me here…

First of all, Elfrieda, that WAS helpful. My husband and I have discussed hiring a lawyer. Still not sure if we’ll go that route, but it may be a last resort. Thanks! Oh, and I do actually have a letter claiming religious exemption for a Christian which quotes scripture, so I do think that could work. I’m considering halting all vaccines going forward and then claiming the religious exemption, like we converted. Anyway, I really appreciate your thoughts, so thank you!!

Desiree, that is a very sad story indeed. Unfortunately there are many tragic stories on both sides of the debate, which is why the decision whether or not to vaccinate your children is such a difficult one for so many parents. I was recently reading a story about an infant who had severe reactions to the pertussis vaccine which caused him to develop a seizure disorder, autism and finally at 5 years old the tests showed that he was in fact severely retarded due to the brain damage from the vaccine. So sad.

The medical community in general is very mainstream on the topic and recommends vaccination right on schedule, so I’m not surprised by your standpoint considering you are studying nursing. But I have to say that there many valid reasons as to why there continues to be a big debate on this topic. And while I did not intend for this to become a debate, I will say a few things to help you gain an understanding from the “other side”.

It’s true that a lot of the diseases which vaccines prevent can have some very serious complications. But just like with anything else, there are risks to all vaccines which must be considered. The FDA determines what is safe (or not) when it comes to vaccinations and unfortunately, they have been wrong more than a few times in the past. There have been vaccines which have been pulled from the market after they were deemed to be unsafe. The truth is that there are many ties between the pharmaceutical companies which create and market the vaccines and the government which mandates who will get the vaccines. There is a LOT of money and personal interests involved in governmental decisions regarding vaccines, and at least for me, that is reason enough to be cautious. I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it’s the God-honest truth.

I discovered this recently and found it to be a very scary reality:

If your child is left permanently brain damaged or dies as a result of a vaccine reaction, you may be entitled to benefits under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. By fall 1995, the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) had compensated nearly 1,000 families at a cost of $600 million.

As for the MMR/Autism debate, the jury is still out on that verdict, at least according to the research I’ve done on the subject. The medical community as a whole has accepted that the link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been disproven, but the issue has not been put to rest as of yet. I would encourage you to check out the following website, which includes a LOT of valuable information on the topic, including an interview with Dr. Wakefield, who first published the paper indicating an association between the MMR vaccine and autism. It is VERY interesting. The stream of information on the topic indicates that there is more work to be done to determine whether or not there is a cause/effect going on here.

I hope this helps you understand a new perspective or at the very least, encourages some additional research. As I’m sure you agree, no amount of research and knowledge is too much, especially when it concerns the well-being of our precious little ones – right?

Rebecca - posted on 08/19/2011




I don't vacinate at all i have 5 children and they never were and never will be and they attend public school i sign a waiver for them to be able to attend. I believe they can be dangerous and i am against it.


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Katherine - posted on 08/21/2011




Maybe you can have an exemption based on those specific vaccinations you chose not to do with a medical waiver. Like the article says.

Desiree - posted on 08/20/2011




I just read a sad news article of a mom who contracted whooping cough, gave it to her newborn before she was able to be vaccinated, and the infant died. That is a tragic event to happen. I don't understand why you would risk your children by not vaccinating on purpose? I don't want to stir up a debate, I just honestly feel like I need to understand this? I am studying nursing right now and have two children that I can not imagine ever not vaccinating! Yes, I think knowledge is important. I actually delayed vaccinating my daughter against varicella and my son I chose to space out vaccines so that he didn't get them all at once, but why chose to not vaccinate fully?

Is it the autism thing? That link is so weak, in fact I believe its never been proven to be even remotely true.

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Katherine, what I'm really looking for is information in regards to picking and choosing the vaccines I believe to be necessary. Staggering vaccines isn't really very helpful when I don't want my children to have certain vaccines at all. To be perfectly honest, I'm now wishing that I could just go back and choose not to vaccinate at all, claim religious exemption and be done with it once and for all - just like you Rebecca. But alas, here I am, having chosen some and rejected others (like Hep B, Hep A, MMR and chickenpox). Now I'm wondering if I can get my kids through the school system without having to give them all these vaccines that I really don't want to. When you claim religious exemption, do you need a doctor to sign off on what vaccines they may or may not have administered? If not, I'm thinking the religious exemption letter may suffice, but I'm really not sure. I'm hoping to find someone who is in my same situation who might be able to advise...

Katherine - posted on 08/19/2011




If you are worried why don't you do one vax in one visit and another in another visit? Instead of doing them all in one? I don't think there is an exemption besides religion.

Though most states do require vaccinations for school children, many also allow for parents to refuse them. In many states, parents may avoid immunizing their children by filing medical exemptions with school officials. In other states, exemptions can be granted for religious and philosophical reasons as well.

****Edit: I was wrong, read this article and see what the guidelines for your state are.

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