Ready for milk?

Lori - posted on 12/23/2010 ( 213 moms have responded )

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My daughter will be 1 on the 31st. Is it too early to start givng her milk instead of formula?

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Sherri - posted on 12/28/2010

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According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) 46 outbreaks made 1,733 Americans sick between 1973 and 1993 from drinking raw milk (Thomas & Powell, 2002.) These were the reported cases; 87% of the outbreaks occurred in states where the sale of raw milk was legal.

In Minnesota, fifty people got sick after drinking raw milk at a church picnic in 1992. Four people in Otter Tail County were sickened by Campylobacter jejuni from drinking unpasteurized milk in 2001.

Organisms associated with raw milk include Campylobacter—most common cause of bacterial diarrhea—Salmonella, E. coli 0157:H7, Yersinia, and Listeria, just to name a few. Symptoms and complications range from diarrhea, meningitis to kidney failure to death. A summary of raw milk-related outbreaks can be found on the Internet at www.foodsafetynetwork.ca/food/rawmilk.htm.

You may know someone who drinks raw milk and has never gotten sick. Repeated exposure to disease causing germs can lead to immunity. Farm-family immunity won’t protect you from new types of bacteria or when bacteria levels reach higher levels than you are used to. Don’t serve raw milk to children under the age of four, pregnant women or people with weak immune systems. They are at greater risk of getting sick. Don’t serve raw milk to visitors either.

Raw milk supporters argue that pasteurization destroys nutrients. The pasteurization process used today heats the milk at a high temperature to kill harmful bacteria for a very short time to minimize the effects on nutrients. A.L. Rippen, at Michigan State University compared the nutrients of raw and pasteurized milk. He found no loss of niacin, folic acid, and vitamin D in pasteurized milk. He did find a 3-4% loss of thiamin and less than 5% loss of vitamin E and less than 10% loss of Biotin, Vitamin B12 (Facts About Milk, Pennsylvania State University, Special Circular 266). Rippen concluded that pasteurization does not significantly change the nutritional value of milk. The risks of drinking raw milk outweigh any nutritional benefits.

http://www.extension.umn.edu/foodsafety/...

Kate CP - posted on 12/25/2010

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Okay, that's just not true about lactose. There's just as much lactose in formula and there is in milk because formula is milk-based (unless you get the stuff that isn't). The milk proteins are different and the digestibility is different between milk and formula. It's harder on an infant's system to process the milk proteins but it doesn't have anything to do with lactose.

Krista - posted on 12/28/2010

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At any rate, we're veering off-topic. The OP has asked if 12 months is too early to switch from formula to milk.



And theoretically, no, it is not too early. However you will want to monitor your child to see how her digestive system is handling it. Generally, it is advised to mix milk into the formula, increasing the ratio of milk to formula every week, so that the change is gradual instead of sudden. With our son, he didn't quite take well to it at first, so we had him on soy milk for awhile, and then switched him over to cows' milk at 15 months.



The reason why it is generally advised to make the switch at around 12 months is because by that point, the child should be getting the bulk of her nutrition from solid food instead of from formula. So just ensure that as you make the switch, that you are ensuring that your daughter gets a wide variety of foods and that you are conscious of her nutritional needs.



Edited to add: Katherine, just so that this thread isn't completely hijacked, I would recommend that you start a new thread about raw milk, so that it can be discussed there without detracting focus from the OP's question.



Thanks,

Krista

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Jodi - posted on 12/27/2010

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Callie, Christine is yet to provide any scientific/medical information to back up her claims. I've already questioned why the entire medical and scientific community make recommendations for switching to milk at age one, and how even the FORMULA companies have admitted that toddler formula isn't necessary for most children, and she is yet to provide anything to back up her claims that all children should remain on formula until 3.



And of course, most toddler formulae are milk products, and so, are not avoiding lactose anyway, so I feel like it is going around in circles.



Bottom line to the OP is that it is ok to switch. If your daughter is still a finicky eater, I would hold off, because the additional nutrients could be helpful. If, however, she is eating well, getting a balanced diet of healthy foods, then whole milk is all she needs.



You should also only introduce it gradually (with my kids I started just by adding it to their formula, and gradually adding more milk, making less formula) so that if there are any negative reactions, they remain minimal. This also helps them adjust to the difference in taste and texture :)

Marcia - posted on 12/30/2010

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Just my two cents - cow's milk is not meant for a 10-15lb human baby - it is meant for a 100 pound bovine. Dairy contributes to most (if not all) ear infections and childhood illnessess of the ear, nose and throat. Almond milk (home made is preferable) is incredibly well suited to give to your one year old child. Don't take my word for it - do a little research on your own. 99% of regular M.D.'s will not tell you these things, but the pharmaceutical companies don't want them to! :) I don't mean any disrespect to anyone here - just trying to educate and empower more moms to have a good sense what's best for their precious kids!

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Amanda - posted on 12/30/2010

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My 8 1/2 month old gets milk about once a week ~ usually when we run out of formula and it's too late to run to the grocery store or it is nap time and need an emergency bottle. She has been taking milk for a bout 3 weeks and has had no problem with it. I mix it in with her oatmeal or cereal and she loves it.

Jolene - posted on 12/30/2010

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My son was around 10 months when I started him on 2% milk an he was perfectly fine, an he was born with a restricted airway which he had surgeries for so to switch him was scary but he thrived he gained weight an it filled him up alot more than the formula did. Give it a try she might just really like it :)

Jennifer - posted on 12/30/2010

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My doctor always told me milk at 12 months was ok...I started my son at 11 mos...The formula wasnt really filling him up much and quite honestly, it was very expensive to continue buying formula...We started adding one bottle of cows milk a day for about 3 days to see if he had any allergies...then for the following 3 days we alternated one formula one cows milk and by the 7th day he was drinking strictly cows milk... He loves it...I gave him whole milk for about a month then I went to 2% cause he was getting kinda chunky....I dunno that seemed to work for us...we add a cereal to the milk called "Nestum" by Nestle it gives the milk a sweet taste, its to avoid adding nesquick or what not...You can usually find it at a spanish supermarket, like "Sedanos"...Hope this helps...good luck

Sylvia - posted on 12/30/2010

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as long as you use full creamed,although you could give her milk for toddlers thats what i gave my grandaughter aged one because it contains all the vitamins she needed,shes nearly two now and has just gave up her bottles to santa ,so not so much milk as she is a "big girl now*

Staci - posted on 12/30/2010

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Holly, great advice, I dried up at 11 months and 9 months with #2, but still pumped and mixed whatever I could to 12 months....we also did gradual mix with milk, easier on the tummy..

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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nothing Tesa.. keep nursing :) .. WHO recommends nursing through two years old minimum... but if you HAVE to switch.. try putting breast milk in the sippy to get him to take the sippy.. once he is good with that start gradually switching him (three ounces momma milk, one ounce of cow milk, two and two, one ounce momma milk, three ounces cow milk) do it gradually.. if it doesn't work go backwards and wait a few more days .. good luck! We use sippy cups here (just introduced 3-4 weeks ago) and we only give water in them. If I have soda or tea he might take a sip here and there but I don't drink those often enough to make a difference.. he is still 97 % breast milk at 13.5 months :)

Tesa - posted on 12/30/2010

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My son will be one on the 3 of January and he is breastfeed he will not even try cows milk. He throws his sippy cup when it has milk in it. What do I do to switch him.

Jennifer - posted on 12/30/2010

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my friend did goats milk with both of her children instead of cow. she found got it directly from a farmer, since they don't sell it around here.

Rebecca - posted on 12/30/2010

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Technically no, but my daughter had a hard time digesting regular milk at just 1 year old so I gave her goats milk for a month first. She did better with that as a transition.

Jennifer - posted on 12/30/2010

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abi weaned herself off of boobie juice when she was 10 months old. so she was full formula then. a couple weeks later i started giving her a little whole milk once or twice a day to get her used to it. by the time she was 1 year old, she was on whole milk all the way.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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My second child wound up on formula until well after age two Jenny.. He went to lactaid and is now finally able to do regular milk.. so wish I had nursed him longer!!!!!!! THAT would have been so much better for him! :( poor guy!:(

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Hey, just about ANYTHING you give will be better than what my mother in law gave my husband (and later my step son when she babysat him).. She used Carnation Sweetened Condensed Milk.. with water added! Then cod liver oil to make them poop! They LOVED it (obviously!!).. of course she forgot to tell the mother of the child that she was doing that on a daily basis so the kid was REALLY messed up when mom was using formula at home and he wouldn't eat it! :(

Jenny - posted on 12/30/2010

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I would strongly recommend you ask her doctor, my son had milk allergies til he was 4, it was not fun when i gave him milk he got so backed up and was in so much pain but after I switched to lactaid he was fine.

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i started giving my boys milk from just 6 weeks,
the big one is 1yr 9mths and the small one is 9mths n they r both healty as they can be, only visited a doctor once it was for a cold, dont let people scare u fresh milk is the best u can gice ur child. many people change their view about giving babies fresh milk only after they have been cinvinced by my situation where they c me giving my small baby milk. so its the best u can give.

Jodie - posted on 12/30/2010

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every doctor says waitfor them but i say save your money and start around 10 months or when baby eats 2 foods.. not for every bottle but helps with teeth. and healthy teeth. i have been babysitting a 13 month since he was 8 months no teeth no milk no real good meals of baby food and 5 mmonths later a cup of milk a day he has 12 teeth within that short amount of time the doctor told his mom that the milk had alot to do with it,. most doctors dont recommend bc they dont want the formula replaced til the child is on table food only no passy and no bottle. baby bottle tooth decay is a continuous growing problem

Cindy - posted on 12/30/2010

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I started My daughter one whole milk about a week or even 2 weeks before her 1st bday and she never had a problem. I told my doctor about it at her 1 year appointment and she said that was fine. As long as your child seems fine with it. Shes close enough to say shes 1 :)

Staci - posted on 12/30/2010

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Sorry we also did dairy milk delivery, which is better, my daughter is on 1% now with my son, 1 year of healthy milk never killed anyone...

Bree - posted on 12/30/2010

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most peds say u can start milk at 1 unless the baby has some underlying issue that u know of..... its also a great time to intro a cup if u havent already ;-)

Staci - posted on 12/30/2010

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Great time, at least it was for us. We mixed in 1 oz of whole every few days and got their systems used to it. So say she is on 8 oz a feed, 7-1, then 6-2 etc. After that we waited a week and went on to getting them off the bottle! Good luck!

Jolynne - posted on 12/30/2010

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My doc said at a year to go on whole milk but no sooner. I did put her on whole milk at 9 months.......she was 24lbs then! I was put on whole milk at 4 months. The doc recommends to stay on formula atleast a year. She is my first and I used my discretion. I did take two weeks to transition cuz it made her constipated.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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I guess I should add that some low income folks might not realize or have access to the right foods and therefore were missing out and that led to it too.. still irks me.. help moms get access to the right fats.. don't give them whole milk :(

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Leslee.. I have heard that before (that's WIC's reason for giving the whole milk instead of 2% like they used too).. they figure that us moms are too stupid to feed our kids a healthy diet (there is that one thin strip of *healthy* fats that everyone is supposed to get daily) so they decided to put the kids on whole milk to ensure that they get the fat.. unfortunately they are not healthy fats weight wise... feed healthy fats and skip the whole milk :)

Lynne - posted on 12/30/2010

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You do have to be careful with cow's milk. I would suggest getting a product that comes from dairy cows that have not been given antibiotics or hormones. And then not too much because too much can cause anemia. It is suggested that a toddler drinks no more than 24 ounces of whole fat milk a day. You can switch to lower fat milk after two years of age.

As an aside, my oldest daughter drank milk after she turned one. It took me 2 1/2 years to figure out that it was milk that was causing her night-time terrors because the night-time terrors didn’t happen right away. This is not a common source of night-time terrors according to my child's pediatrician. But every human body is unique in reactions.

Leslee - posted on 12/30/2010

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I started giving my son a bottle of whole milk before before each night at 10 months. (started sleeping all night as a result) His doctor said it was fine as long as he was still getting formula. By a year, I was no longer giving him formula coz he was eating table food. One thing the doc did tell me then was to give whole milk. they need the fat for development.

Kelli - posted on 12/30/2010

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I switched my 3 1/2 year old from formula to whole milk about 2 weeks before her 1st birthday. She was always a spitty baby - even with medicine & special formula. She spit up until the day I started her on whole milk! I wish I had switched earlier! It also helped her digestion - she constantly had diahrea on formula (several kinds tried) and once we made the switch - it was sooooo much better! A friend of mine put her daughter on whole milk at 6 months because of similar issues. Of course, it is recommeded to use formula until one year and you should ask your doctor... good luck!

Aurora - posted on 12/30/2010

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My kids always ate what we ate. I mashed table food and they always loved it. Milk was the hardest adjustment. They liked the sweet of breastmilk.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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I have issues with whole milk to Elisa.. I have a problem with WIC giving it to children from years 1-2 :( All that fat is so not necessary in a young child's life.. then they wonder why our obesity rates are rising! :(

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Milk is not all that its cracked up to be! Giving a 11 month old milk is not harmful in small doses, as with any food. My children were raised on 2% milk NEVER whole milk (makes me gag!) They are healthy children with NO food allergies. I also drink very little milk. Cow's milk is not as healthy as the Dairy Association makes it out to be. My advice is more water. That is one of the healthiest fluids you could give your child.

Jesica - posted on 12/30/2010

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My son was about one year and i started him on almond milk, it has so many more vitamines and no hormones. He is doing great with it and has not had a cold for a year, he is turning 18 months on the 18th of Jan.Though he was also breast fed for 9 months. Also you are her mother and only you will know what is best for your child.

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as a grandmother with a perfectly healthy 28 year old who is the mother of a 10mth old boy I recommend you do your research but please try to rely as much on your own instinct as possible. I never tell my daughter my answers when she asks until she has given me all her reasons for what she is doing. I love the internet and these forums, but it seems to take away from the essence of being a Mum

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Hey, I agree with that.. buy a package of carrots, steam them and hand your kid a carrot to gum and gnaw on.. much healthier.. breastfeed.. free.. I just wanted to point out that allergies as a *hoax* or unpreventable is not necessarily correct... You can do everything *right* and still come out with issues or everything wrong and come out fine.. still doesn't mean it's a hoax :) I have never (in 14 years and six kids) used toddler formula, I was a BIG dissenter on the chocolate toddler formula and was THRILLED when it was pulled. We use BLW and refuse to use that crap baby cereal and my kids have never had a jar of baby food.. too expensive and why bother :) Through BLW my kids eat what I eat and it makes my life SO much easier and them healthier for it :)

Angel - posted on 12/30/2010

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Holly, you are absolutely correct but there is no use in spending the money on unnecessary items such as, toddler formula, gerber graduates etc. Just give them some milk and a can of delmonte diced veggies...its virtually the same and way cheaper. Its not going to hender a 9 or 12 mo childs development or cause allergies...but it will put money in the pockets of the companies that make them.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Yes some allergies are genetic and inherited but MANY are because items were introduced before the gut was "ready" for them and caused major issues to an immature system. You can absolutely do everything "by the book" and still have problems.. that doesn't mean that it's a *hoax" that you can cause allergies by exposing children to things that their tiny bodies aren't ready for

Angel - posted on 12/30/2010

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It is perfectly fine to start! I am a pediatric nurse and the Dr. I work for recommends u starting around 9-10 months as Long as they are eating food fine. It is also perfectly fine to do 2% if u want to. Formula only serves a purpose if they aren't eating food.

Formula and baby food are marketed the way they are for only one reason...MONEY!

Allergies are a hoax too...my sister n law did everything " by the book " with her first son and he has severe allergies to several foods as well as milk and environmental things. Either you will be allergic to things or not. Yes there are more complex ways to "develop" an allergy but not in this aspect.

Kristen - posted on 12/30/2010

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Thanks Jane. I just feel more confused by posts like these and each kid is different. I trust my dr but also check into his recommendations when he advises me on issues. Since i breast fed until 6mo my dr recommended a different schedule of introducing foods than my friends son who is the same age who wasnt breastfeeding. I go with my drs opinion and my own feelings on his opinions. If I need to do some research based on what hes said then I do that. I was simply making my own comment on the post and noticing that the post was becoming more argumentative and more "my opinion is better than your opinion" which I dont find to be helpful. I agree that the forum is for input from mother's but it was moving away from the main purpose of the post which was to help this young mom

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Ann, I think you are awesome :) Keep up the great work :) I am still nursing my 13.5 month old too :) He LOVES his milkies :)

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totally agree Kristen, which is what i said. i really cant remember worrying that much when my daughter was that age. maybe I did but dont think so. the internet seems to have given way to instinct.

Suzie - posted on 12/30/2010

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Ann, keep breastfeding until at least 2 then try milk. Talk to your doc about it all.

Reba - posted on 12/30/2010

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Actually, I am learing that milk products is what causes sinuses problems and allergies. Humans are the only ones to drink some other species milk...why is that? All animals drink only their mother's milk then straight to God supplied greens. There is enough calcium and proteins for that matter in greens. They also keep our digestive track clean of bacteria, polyps, etc. There are many sites that support this....one being hacres.com or Dr. Joel Fuhram.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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No Kristen.. not a doctor.. just a mother of six children between the ages of fourteen years and thirteen months. That IS what this forum is for.. getting other mothers' input on child issues... or was I mistaken? Besides.. all doctors (like all moms) have different opinions.. do you know some IDIOT doctors still recommend cereal in a bottle when it has been proven to be totally dangerous due to choking hazards and early exposure to grains can cause allergies? So yea, asking a doctor is not always the smartest thing in the world. WIC can't be trusted either! I was told my infant would have horrible iron deficiencies if I didn't cow to them and give him synthetic iron in baby cereal. They couldn't be bothered to read my research that shows that a baby metabolizes MOMS iron from BREASTMILK perfectly fine until he is exposed to synthetic iron.. then mom's iron is no longer sufficient. Even after forced Iron checks at six, eight and twelve months that showed he was WELL within normal iron ranges they still believe I did wrong by him! SERIOUSLY.. so really... yes, asking other moms their opinion and not JUST going on the opinion of your pediatrician is reasonable!

Kristen - posted on 12/30/2010

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Good lord...are you all doctors?...ask your DR what they recommend for your child with their own special needs as far as milk goes

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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The World Health Organization recommends breastfeeding to 24 months of age minimum and as long as the breastfeeding relationship is *mutually desired* after that.. not 18 months

Locadia - posted on 12/30/2010

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I THINK CONTINUE BREAST FEEDING UNTIL 18 MONTHS AND TRY GIVING HIM SOYA MILK

Sue - posted on 12/30/2010

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Most pediatricians will recommend WHOLE milk at one year; they need the whole milk for proper brain development and should continue until they get enough fats in their diet. They should get about 24 ounces in a day so they will not fill up with milk and avoid foods. They also should be waning from a bottle.

Holly - posted on 12/30/2010

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Actually.. they do have *toddler formula* now in the US... We are still breastfeeding and will just continue that until around age three.. :)

Ann - posted on 12/30/2010

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my son has milk allergies so i am still breastfeeding, he is 13 months. any thoughts on that?

Locadia - posted on 12/30/2010

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its not too early just wean her gradually giving less bottles of formula with the fresh milk

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