Should having a tattoo determine whether you get the job or not?

Victoria - posted on 12/08/2009 ( 47 moms have responded )

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Please be honest and keep in mind the bigger picture.-------discrimination------

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La - posted on 12/12/2009

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Thanks to the exposure that tattoos have gotten through TV shows like LA and Miami Ink, many people have had a chance to see that to have tattoos does not have a direct correlation with one's intelligence, morals, or decency as a human being. Although there are some real idiots out there that are all tatted up, there are far many more people with tats that are NOT degenerates. Tattoos are becoming much more mainstream and as our society's standards change this topic will eventually be obsolete.

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

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If someone didn't want my services due to my tattoos then I feel it would be their loss not mine. I offer great comfort and help to every patient and they all know I wouldn't hesitate to go that extra mile for them. I've seen people without tattoos who look great and perfect appearance completely suck at their job. So judging by appearance is not always the best idea. That is why jobs have interviews because who is going to say "hey that lady has no tattoos and looks great! She's hired!" They want your experience and personality and that I believe is what matters the most.

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

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I have a tattoo on my hand of a shooting star. It's a very personal tattoo and I get nothing but compliments from my patients. And yes we all know that people will discriminate when it comes to tattoos but my question is "SHOULD having a tattoo determine whether you get the job or not?" not "DOES it determine...." I'm curious to what people think on this matter and I feel that no it should NOT matter if you are qualified to do the job and do it well. That is why I asked the question about the Doc covered in tatts below. When it comes down to it the only thing that should matter is how well a person performs his/her job. Yes we know that if you have tattoos the stakes are up but just be an exceptional worker and you will go above and beyond anyones expectations! You will also be a great example to those who are prejudiced against tattoos!

Jenn - posted on 12/09/2009

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A lot of people like tatts, I don't see that as bad judgement?






I work in reception and am married with 3 children.....I have 3 tatts and have my nose and labret pierced as well. does not define who I am as a person!






I get sick of people who label others cause they have tattoos or piercings!






 



 



I agree with you as well tattoos are not always a bad judgement yes there are ones out there that are done in bad taste but again thats my opinion to the person it was done for it may mean the world I present have 2 tattoos myself and am getting a 3rd one I have one to represent my kids and a loved one lost and I have one for myself on my back, I am getting a celtic cross on my ankle for my grpa who passed this year.......this to me is not bad judgement this is my way of carrying on the ppl i love, and I get to tell ppl about them when they ask about my  tattoos.......





 

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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And before you say you won't sign it...refusal to submit to a security check drops your resume straight in the garbage bin

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Amanda - posted on 06/04/2011

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I don't think it should but it does in society... my tattoos don't make me a bad employee...

Kristin - posted on 12/13/2009

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I agree with most of the comments, any vulgar ones would be a problem. I've had problems getting a job with my tattoos, one employer had a problem with a tattoo for a family member on my neck because it was so visable.

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Every job I've been in or interviewd for has always had a policy that any and all tattoos must remain covered while on duty. But I guess it depends on the job, the employer, etc. I know someone who had to remove their nose ring for their job and it was a small stud that didn't even show to well.

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Quoting Victoria:



Quoting Sharon:

Well, if someone covered in swastikas and other hateful tats, were my cashier, I'd probably just walk away.

I certainly wouldn't choose to be helped by a doctor with such tats either.

 





If someone had a tattoo that says something like "F$%& YOU" that is visible then of course they would not be ideal for a job in a pediatrics office or even custmer service at walmart 
(which I don't think is un-heard of for wally world! lol)



That's common sense.


You really would think so..I have seen the F&*% U tattoo several times. Most commonly on the inside  of the bottom lip. Only in "white power" gangs so far.

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Depends on the tattoos, the meaning and the location. I have 5. You can't see a single one. I like tattoos, but I didn't want them at the expense of a good career. Most of my back is covered, like I said though I can wear standard tanks, and you still can't see them.

Christina - posted on 12/12/2009

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i thinkit depends on what kind of job it is and where the tattoo r , i have a tatoo on my back but i can hide that pretty gooo

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Sharon:

Well, if someone covered in swastikas and other hateful tats, were my cashier, I'd probably just walk away.

I certainly wouldn't choose to be helped by a doctor with such tats either.

 


If someone had a tattoo that says something like "F$%& YOU" that is visible then of course they would not be ideal for a job in a pediatrics office or even custmer service at walmart 
(which I don't think is un-heard of for wally world! lol)

That's common sense.

Sharon - posted on 12/09/2009

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Well, if someone covered in swastikas and other hateful tats, were my cashier, I'd probably just walk away.

I certainly wouldn't choose to be helped by a doctor with such tats either.

Everyone has said it and its true, tats are incredibly personal and speak volumes about the person who has them.

Some are utterly harmless. Professing to someones peaceful intent, undying love for a mother or deceased friend, but then there are the types I just mentioned.

If I were a witch/wiccan and had the symbols tat'd obviously, I would expect christians to run in fear and probably some other religions.

I'm not a member of wicca or any other "witchy" orgaisation. I am a christian but extremely liberal in my interpretation of the bible.

Because a lot is said in tats via symbolism - its hard to tell what someone is saying.

I just noticed today that one of my co-workers had a HUGE bandage on his hand and later I saw one on his ear. I was going to make a goofy comment about how his girlfriend must be kind of vicious as we were getting off work when he pulled the bandaids off.

Yep, covered a tat and plug. The plug was ok, the tat, eh, i couldn't tell what it was but it wasn't great, faded, "runny" looking... not very attractive and certainly not artsy.

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Lynette:



Quoting Laura:

I think having tattoos (especially if they are of Jesus on the Cross...just joking Traci, but I couldn't resist) is a sign of bad judgment. And therefor is ABSOLUTELY a reason not to hire somebody...I'm in business school right now, and am studying human resource management (hiring, firing, blahblahblah)...You would be amazed how much people believe that your appearance says about you...just like those ridiculous photos on facebook.

Oh yeah, by the way...when you sign that security release for them to check your record...these days there's usually a clause about checking networking sites as well so please don't think that your privacy settings matter...they can simply call facebook and ask to see it (no search necessary)...scary huh?





A lot of people like tatts, I don't see that as bad judgement?






I work in reception and am married with 3 children.....I have 3 tatts and have my nose and labret pierced as well. does not define who I am as a person!






I get sick of people who label others cause they have tattoos or piercings!






 





I spoke too quickly...I believe that tattoos on your face, neck and hands show bad judgement...and also a lack of forethought.  Piercings are a little different...if something happened in your life that made you decide you no longer want them...they are easily removed.  Tattoos are entirely different.

Jenn - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Jodi:

Honestly? Tattoos say something about who you are (where you have them, what the tatto is, etc, it reflects a part of your personality), the same as any piercings do, the same as the way you dress and present yourself, the colour of your hair if you have dyed it, and so on. Anything that is going to reflect your personality is going to have some bearing on whether you get a job or not.

It can be very difficult interviewing for jobs, and sometimes, the difference between getting a job and not getting it over someone else, could be something as minor as a tattoo....


   I agree 100% with you! I am a tattooed mom, now granted mine are in places that can be covered in a work place I kept that in mind when getting them. But like you said for most ppl tattoos are an expression of their inner selves. So many times we judge ppl on how they look before we get to see the person on the inside.



 



I do also agree though that if someone is covered in tattoos that can not be covered and would be considered offensive or in very poor taste then I'm sorry but yes it should effect them getting the job. They CHOSE to get the tatttoos and in the places they did, it was a personal decision on their part.There are just certain settings where certain types of tattoos are unacceptable professionally, like with everything else in life tatttoos comes responsability as does what you do with your hair piercings etc if you want to get a particular kind of job.



 

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Quoting Laura:

I think having tattoos (especially if they are of Jesus on the Cross...just joking Traci, but I couldn't resist) is a sign of bad judgment. And therefor is ABSOLUTELY a reason not to hire somebody...I'm in business school right now, and am studying human resource management (hiring, firing, blahblahblah)...You would be amazed how much people believe that your appearance says about you...just like those ridiculous photos on facebook.

Oh yeah, by the way...when you sign that security release for them to check your record...these days there's usually a clause about checking networking sites as well so please don't think that your privacy settings matter...they can simply call facebook and ask to see it (no search necessary)...scary huh?


A lot of people like tatts, I don't see that as bad judgement?



I work in reception and am married with 3 children.....I have 3 tatts and have my nose and labret pierced as well. does not define who I am as a person!



I get sick of people who label others cause they have tattoos or piercings!



 

Jodi - posted on 12/09/2009

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I believe you should take things like finding a job and what your kids may think someday. If you have a tatoo that is done in bad taste then you should have thought of that first.

Nicole - posted on 12/09/2009

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I think it depends on the job you are trying to get. I personly don't have a problem with them as long as they are tastefull.

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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;P Did you see that woman whose profile pic was her bent over showing her thong and peeking around the corner??? might take that one down before the interview LOL

Krista - posted on 12/09/2009

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Hmm......maybe I should take down those pictures of me snorting coke....

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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They can only do it if you sign permission for a background check....obviously not everybody asks for a background check...and therefore you do not sign...they cannot check. Just be careful what you sign...or what you post

Krista - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Laura:



Quoting Laura:

Oh yeah, by the way...when you sign that security release for them to check your record...these days there's usually a clause about checking networking sites as well so please don't think that your privacy settings matter...they can simply call facebook and ask to see it (no search necessary)...scary huh?





Does facebook have to notify you when your account is looked at under these conditions?





I don't believe they CAN call facebook to do this.  A government job? Maybe....but your regular run of the mill job....doubt it.  There's too much security.

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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I don't think so...you signed the release when they offered you the job...ouch

La - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Laura:

Oh yeah, by the way...when you sign that security release for them to check your record...these days there's usually a clause about checking networking sites as well so please don't think that your privacy settings matter...they can simply call facebook and ask to see it (no search necessary)...scary huh?


Does facebook have to notify you when your account is looked at under these conditions?

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

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I think having tattoos (especially if they are of Jesus on the Cross...just joking Traci, but I couldn't resist) is a sign of bad judgment. And therefor is ABSOLUTELY a reason not to hire somebody...I'm in business school right now, and am studying human resource management (hiring, firing, blahblahblah)...You would be amazed how much people believe that your appearance says about you...just like those ridiculous photos on facebook.

Oh yeah, by the way...when you sign that security release for them to check your record...these days there's usually a clause about checking networking sites as well so please don't think that your privacy settings matter...they can simply call facebook and ask to see it (no search necessary)...scary huh?

Betsy - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Laura:



Quoting Betsy:

That doesn't really qualify as discrimination though. Discrimination is defined more on basing decision and opportunity on who someone is, whether gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, etc. An employer has every right to base hiring decisions on what they want representing their company especially when a representation to the public, which could be tattoos, dressing poorly to an interview, eloquence, etc.





How is it not discrimination?  If an employer didn't hire someone because they are obese or overweight you can bet that there would be a lawsuit!  Weight is a modifiable part of one's physical characteristics just as having tattoos is, but weight discrimination is wrong and tattoo discrimination isn't? (I'm not condoning ANY discrimination, I just picked weight as an example)






With weight, obesity is classified as a medical condition which is why you can sue for not being hired if you can prove it was solely due to weight (which is very difficult unless clearly expressed) and not over clothing choice or tattoos.

La - posted on 12/09/2009

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Last time I checked discrimination is discrimination whether it is explicitly protected under the law or not. Just because something doesn't fall into discrimination of gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation doesn't mean that it is ok to have preconceptions about anyone nor is it ok to punish someone for your prejudices. (I'm speaking in general, not directing that at anyone)

La - posted on 12/09/2009

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Quoting Betsy:

That doesn't really qualify as discrimination though. Discrimination is defined more on basing decision and opportunity on who someone is, whether gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, etc. An employer has every right to base hiring decisions on what they want representing their company especially when a representation to the public, which could be tattoos, dressing poorly to an interview, eloquence, etc.


How is it not discrimination?  If an employer didn't hire someone because they are obese or overweight you can bet that there would be a lawsuit!  Weight is a modifiable part of one's physical characteristics just as having tattoos is, but weight discrimination is wrong and tattoo discrimination isn't? (I'm not condoning ANY discrimination, I just picked weight as an example)

Betsy - posted on 12/08/2009

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That doesn't really qualify as discrimination though. Discrimination is defined more on basing decision and opportunity on who someone is, whether gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, etc. An employer has every right to base hiring decisions on what they want representing their company especially when a representation to the public, which could be tattoos, dressing poorly to an interview, eloquence, etc.

Tattos have become more mainstream to an extent. I wanted a small one on my ankle, which I put off while studying for a very conservative field. Then one day while interning in the district court, I was in the courtroom prior to cases with just the female DA and female judge. The DA was showing us her brand new tattoo on her ankle, and the judge whipped her ankle out of her robe while on the bench and showed her work lol. I figured a small one on my ankle wouldn't hurt my career! But, at the same time, I can't see someone, especially a female who must prove herself more than men in most cases, getting far in that field with tats all over her upper body and facial piercings. In certain fields, you will lose credibility, regardless of ability, because you will not get the opportunities to show and prove your abilities. Any person must take that in to account when making these decisons. If a person is looking for a career in conservative professions such as law, medicine or the corporate world or be representatives to the public as in the service industry, it will be detrimental to their career to cross those lines. That's just common sense. If they are looking to get ahead by standing out in a positive way, and they can't prove their abilities without the opportunities to do so, that doesn't lead to success. If the person is looking for a more laid back career environment, such as highly creative careers, there is more leeway there to express yourself that way.

Jodi - posted on 12/08/2009

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Quoting Victoria:



Quoting Jodi:




Quoting Victoria:

Question to ponder------What if your child had to have a specific surgery that only 1 doctor can do or he/she will die and that very doctor is covered from head to toe in tattoos? Would you turn down the procedure?








That is an entirely different question.










I know. I'm thinking about posting that. It's a good question.






What I mean about it being a different question is that in this thread, you are talking about going for a job interview, etc.  So in general, in most cases, while qualifications are taken into consideration, there are many other aspects that determine whether you will get the job over someone else, so therefore, your personality (and your tatto as an extension of that) will generally come into it as well.



The issue with regard to the doctor is about him being the only doctor capable of performing surgery, with PROVEN skills, so in that instance, who cares is he is an absolute arsehole, with the worst bedside manner, he will get the job done.  Therefore his personality (and therefore the tattos by extention of this) will be irrelevant.

Angie - posted on 12/08/2009

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It depends:

1. Where's the tat?

2. What does it say?

3. What job is being applied for.

If it's a service industry job, then tattoos aren't appropriate. If it's at a place that is frequented by people who enjoy tattoos, then it shouldn't make a difference. Honestly, if I were doing the hiring, I wouldn't hire anyone who had a tattoo, unusual piercing, or branding that showed.

Charlie - posted on 12/08/2009

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I dont believe it should matter , i do think as the professional field get younger its becoming more acceptable to have tattoos and they no longer bare that stigma they once had , i feel the discrimination people face are more likely from an older generation , some of whom are warming to the idea hey even my Nanna has a fave tattoo on my body unfortunately someone has to live through the discrimination before it gets better and it will , just look at nose piercings , once looked down on are now present EVERYWHERE one of my friends is a high powered lawyer who takes on massive cases and she has her nose pierced and pink hair NO JOKE , but she kicks ass at what she does and that's why people hire her , that's why she put a terrorist behind bars when he as nearly released earlier this year .
And as a teacher at a school where majority of the employed teachers where tattooed and had facial piercings we have never faced prejudice from co workers , our boss or parents of the children .
Fortunately they are mature enough to see the wonderful job we do and judge us based on performance NOT how we look .

Charlie - posted on 12/08/2009

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Quoting Traci:


Your tramp stamp should be hidden from view and is not professional.


Just in refrence to this particular part of your post i personally think regaurdless of wether you have a tramp stamp or not if your ass crack is hanging out ( and usually if you have a tramp stamp showing it does ) its not a good look .

Victoria - posted on 12/08/2009

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Quoting Jodi:



Quoting Victoria:

Question to ponder------What if your child had to have a specific surgery that only 1 doctor can do or he/she will die and that very doctor is covered from head to toe in tattoos? Would you turn down the procedure?






That is an entirely different question.






I know. I'm thinking about posting that. It's a good question.

Jodi - posted on 12/08/2009

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Quoting Victoria:

Question to ponder------What if your child had to have a specific surgery that only 1 doctor can do or he/she will die and that very doctor is covered from head to toe in tattoos? Would you turn down the procedure?



That is an entirely different question.

Jodi - posted on 12/08/2009

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Victoria, no-one is saying it happens all the time, or even that is SHOULD happen, but the fact is, it does. When interviewing employees, first impressions do count, because you really only have that interview to make a decision on who you are employing. If their personality and qualifications for the job outweigh the tattoo that may be on their face, neck or arm, etc, then fantastic. But the fact is, the tattoo WILL come into the picture as an expression of who you are. Whether it is what stops you getting a job or not, depends on many factors. In some instances, it may even help you get a job!!!



In my view, it is an extension of someone's personality, and will be judged as such.

Victoria - posted on 12/08/2009

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Question to ponder------What if your child had to have a specific surgery that only 1 doctor can do or he/she will die and that very doctor is covered from head to toe in tattoos? Would you turn down the procedure?

Victoria - posted on 12/08/2009

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I work 2 jobs in the health field and you would not believe how many DRs and lawyers and such are tattooed themselves. I believe that if your job performance is exceptional then there should be no problem! What's funny is I take care of a little old fashioned southern lady sometimes and she loves mine! I also work for a very reputable Dr here and he has no problem with my tatts and on the day of my interview we both got into conversations about tats and how his wife is tatted! I love it! But the main thing is, I love my job and and you can see my passion in my work. My references are great and would tell any employer these things so therefore I do not feel it to be fair to not get a job due to my tattoos.

Traci - posted on 12/08/2009

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I think it's up to the employer. If that is a deal breaker for the employer, then tough on you. If I'm running a business, I want my employees to look professional.

Your former "boo's" name tattooed across your neck is not professional.
Your tramp stamp should be hidden from view and is not professional.
Your former gang symbol running down your forearm is not professional.
I don't care if it's a cross with Jesus himself on it...if it is in view and cannot be hidden, it's not professional.

...Unless, of course, the profession is bartender, tattoo artist, or something along those lines.

I don't think there is anything discriminatory about it. Nobody forced ya to get your ink done.

Pretty much anyone who chooses to get a tattoo done knows that the tattoo will show others something about themselves. If that is what you want to put out there about yourself, then be prepared to face the consequences-good or bad.

My husband has a few tattoos (much to my dismay) and, luckily, he had them done in places that could be covered. His boss saw the tats after the fact and told him he would have gotten a very different impression of him had he seen the tattoos before his employment. And I think it is completely fair.

Alicia - posted on 12/08/2009

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lol I have my nose pierced, but I dont like those tiny tiny looking ones.. to each their own I suppose.. I do love piercings lol

Sharon - posted on 12/08/2009

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I was waited on by on a woman who had these pus looking sores all over her face and a shiny booger and it creeped me out. Then I realised they were TINY - I mean TINY friggen diamond studs. I was sort of floored how she could think those infinitismal shiny spots could be sexy? They looked like gross moles. They were that tiny.

Alicia - posted on 12/08/2009

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It also depends on what type of job you're applying for.. what their expectations and qualities they look for are.

Jodi - posted on 12/08/2009

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Honestly? Tattoos say something about who you are (where you have them, what the tatto is, etc, it reflects a part of your personality), the same as any piercings do, the same as the way you dress and present yourself, the colour of your hair if you have dyed it, and so on. Anything that is going to reflect your personality is going to have some bearing on whether you get a job or not.



It can be very difficult interviewing for jobs, and sometimes, the difference between getting a job and not getting it over someone else, could be something as minor as a tattoo....

Alicia - posted on 12/08/2009

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I wouldnt hire someone who has a tattoo thats completely offensive to others, you have a certain reputation to uphold and its not against the person personally, but you cant have someone with lets say a racist or sexist or vulgar tattoo representing your company... its your body, you have the right to cover it with whatever you want, but I think people also do need to take into consideration the effects it takes towards employers opinions, whether we like it or not, we gotta face it that people will make their judgements based on that. Now if its a tattoo of good taste that isnt just straight out disrespectful I'd hire them IF they are qualified for the position.. I think sometimes people think "oh its my tattoo, they are discriminating" .. well maybe the person just isnt qualified or doesnt suit the position.

Victoria - posted on 12/08/2009

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Quoting Sharon:

No it shouldn't. But if you have something offensive or vulgar who can blame the employer?

Or if its unsightly? I've seen some BAD tatoos.

Do you really want your customers reading your employees boob tat that says "1st class bitch"?


lol Now  I can understand that! hahaha That's great!

Krista - posted on 12/08/2009

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I don't think of it as discrimination if the tattoo is displayed in poor taste. It's the same thing as someone with poor hygiene not getting a job. A company wants to put their best foot forward and if you've got a skull and crossbones on your chest, it probably isn't putting forth the best appearance.

That being said, I have tattoos. I think they're classy. They're also hidden. I believe that if the tattoo is not offensive then there really shouldn't be a problem.

Sharon - posted on 12/08/2009

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No it shouldn't. But if you have something offensive or vulgar who can blame the employer?



Or if its unsightly? I've seen some BAD tatoos.



Do you really want your customers reading your employees boob tat that says "1st class bitch"?

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