starting baby on solids

HANNAH - posted on 02/22/2012 ( 167 moms have responded )

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my son is two months old and his dr. told e i should start him on cereal and fruit , just wondering if this is to early.

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Erica - posted on 02/22/2012

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Try looking up WHO Breastfeeding guidelines. The WHO actually recommends exclusively breastfeeding for a minimum of the first 2yrs of a child's life and adding in solid foods no sooner than 6months of age. Also, a child's digestive tract is not fully formed (capable of digesting all food variety's) until age 5. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but this sounds like a great reason to practice extended breastfeeding or baby-led weaning practices ;).

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They should be able to sit up on their own, holding their own heads, and be able to thrust their tongues out. THOSE are the main signs to say "yeah my baby is ready for solids" and usually this is about 6 months old. My daughter was not really ready until she was about 7 months old. Seriously though, find another pediatrician ASAP!

Jodi - posted on 02/23/2012

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"First of all, I am not a doctor, but I am a mother to a 17 and a 14 year old. I am college educated but do not have a PhD. I have nursed and I have bottle fed my two when they were babies. "



I am also not a doctor, but I am a mother to a 14 and a 7 year old, step mother to a 19 and 12 year old. I am college educated but do not have a PhD. I have nursed and I have bottle fed my two when they were babies. I don't see the relevance.



And quite honestly? I know how to research information for myself, and I know what a credible source looks like, and the FACT is, it is NO LONGER recommended to feed a baby solids until at LEAST 4-6 months, for VERY good reason. Since you had your children, there has been a myriad of research which has led to the change in these recommendations, and when reading that information, I totally understand why.



The World Health Organisation recommends 6 months, because this is when MOST babies are well and truly ready to start on solids. Some babies ARE ready a little younger, some are not ready until they are a little older. But 6 months is the benchmark. 2 months isn't even close.

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Michelle - posted on 02/24/2012

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Jodi - posted on 02/24/2012

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Except for the fact that by filling a baby's tiny tummy with rice cereal, which is nutritionally inferior, it is making less room for breastmilk, the nutritionally superior food for this age. So in fact, at a time when the child should be increasing their intake of breastmilk, because this is what their bodies are wanting and needing, you pump them full of food their bodies are not designed to digest yet.



Do you understand the role of fats on a baby's brain? Breast milk is full of it. Rice cereal is devoid of it. And if you are feeding a baby rice cereal instead of the breast milk it needs (which you are if you start them this young), then you may be depriving their brain development. Go and look it up.



Now, in order to get enough milk to satisfy their hunger as they grow, babies go through periods where they will cluster feed. They never quite seem satisfied. This is NORMAL and HEALTHY. These cluster feeds are what helps build the milk supply so that then, the cluster feeding will stop and, what do you know? Baby doesn't seem so hungry all the time any more.



Anyway, no point lecturing basic biology and psychology to people who don't care enough to know why their babies act like they do. I can see that.

Andrea - posted on 02/24/2012

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kate, just want to ask are you a doctor or a nurse perhaps? no? are you the one raising her child? no didnt think so, she is this child's mother, and if she wants to feed him baby cereal, then she should, no one should fall asleep simply because they think that they should only breastfeed a child.. believe it or not, the baby rice cereal is mixed with the breastmilk, so guess what they are still getting the milk... I feed everyone of my children solids at the age of 2 months on, as soon as they wanted it.. and none of them are sick except once in a while, all of them are skinny a/b students.. so blaming the fact that mom's feed their children at a younger age then you is just flat out dumb, it depends on family genes and how the child is raised, nothing more nothing less

Hannah, if your son is happy eating the cereal at this age, and it helps you, then feed him it... its not going to do any harm

Kate CP - posted on 02/24/2012

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Him eating all the time is how he gets your body to produce more milk. So by giving him solid food you're actually causing your milk supply to go down.



My son nursed every one to two hours his first month of life. ALL. DAY. AND. ALL. NIGHT. I was literally falling asleep while I was talking to people. It was awful, I hated it, I just needed some sleep. But I got my mother to help me out with things, I slept as often as I could, and I let my son nurse as often as he wanted. My body caught up with his demands and I produced enough milk for him every 4-6 hours and he was happy.



If God intended for babies to eat solid food from 2 months of age he would have made their bodies able to digest solid foods. And he didn't. He made babies able to digest milk. Its liquid so it doesn't last as long in his stomach as solid food does, but that doesn't make it inferior nutrition. Breast milk is the PERFECT food for a baby. If you can't breastfeed it's not that big of a deal...but to purposefully give solids at this age is nutritionally and physiologically not sound advice.



And to top it off...he's only going to be this little once. Why do you want to rush him? Enjoy this stage of babe in arms and nursing...it goes by really fast.



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Your mom follows holistic medicine and you're feeding your two month old solids? I can't imagine she thinks this is a good idea...

HANNAH - posted on 02/24/2012

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sorry for coming off crazy. Listen my mother is a holistic healer and she also thinks im nuts . I deff dont think my dr. is ogd ive never had a dr. inil i became prego. Im not trying to ean him from my milk yet i just want to add it in because he is always hungry and i can hardly keep up plus now that i tried and he likes it i will very slowly add it into his diet

Kate CP - posted on 02/24/2012

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Where did I "hex" your kid? What the hell?



Whatever, Hannah. No article anywhere says you should feed a child 2 months old solids. They all say the earliest you should introduce solids is at 4 months.



But, hey, whatever floats yer boat. If your doctor told you to give your baby ipecac for croup would you do it? Because it was once thought to be a great expectorant (makes phlegm thinner and easier to cough up) for kids. Now it's known to be an emetic (that means it makes you throw up) and actually quite harmful. Many kids grew up 100% okay after being given ipecac...doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it NOW.



Doctors are not gods. They don't know everything. It's your job as a mom to be as informed as possible. If your doctor is wrong about something (and he is wrong about this) then you need to tell him that or find a different doctor.

HANNAH - posted on 02/24/2012

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NO actually to ask for advice and i said mant times i appreciated everyones advice but i also looked at the fact that he is always hungry and my very good dr,is encouraging me to do this. Also alot of mms started there kids early and all of them said there kids are 100 percent aok so thanks for your nice remark but i think this subject is to touchy and everyone does things diffrent also there are new articals from peditricans showing that the earlier you start them the less allergies they will have . Please dont hex my child !!!! Hell be fine

Kate CP - posted on 02/24/2012

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I love this. Really.



Some one comes on to a mom's forum and asks for opinions and advice. And when it doesn't match what THEY want to hear that makes it bad advice.



So, Hannah, I find it hilarious that you asked if it was a good idea to feed a baby solid foods at two months and when you get a resounding NO (spiced with a few "yes"es for some reason) you decide that it's crazy.



Despite the evidence to the contrary; despite other moms and their knowledge and experience in this field; despite the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that two months is just too early for solids...you're gonna do it any way. *slow claps* Bravo.



So, will something horrible happen to your baby? I hope not...and it probably won't. BUT, if your son gets horribly constipated, becomes obese, develops allergies, or becomes colicky...well...you know how it happened then, don't ya?



Seriously, why the hell ask a question just to frickin' ignore or laugh at the responses?!

HANNAH - posted on 02/24/2012

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I did and he likes it !!!! so now im done with this crazy post have fun talking nonsense abouy my decision and ill let you know in a month how wonderfull he is doing thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):)

Heather - posted on 02/24/2012

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Hell No! Don't listen to your ped. at all. It's WAY to early. Your son shouldn't be starting to eat cereal and fruit until he is 4 to 6 months old, and when you feel that your son is ready to be doing so. What a moron! I can't believe that a ped. would tell a mother that! What the hell?



If they ever tell you not to breastfeed, if you are, and to give him formula because he isn't gaining weight fast enough, don't do it. I think honestly, you should find a different pediatrician. They should never tell you to give an 8 week old baby, cereal. WTF?

Aubrey - posted on 02/24/2012

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I would do it only if the bottle or breastfeeding is not sustaining his appetite.

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Paranoid? Nope. I started my girls on rice cereal at 3.5 months and they never once had any issue (and it's been 10 years). They WERE ready, but it was early and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Just because my girls were fine doesn't mean another kid would be too and I wouldn't want that on my conscience if I recommended something that would harm someone else's child. 3.5 months is actually CLOSE to 4 months though.... 2 months, one month, or two WEEKS.... isn't.



And I'm sorry, but it is my opinion that feeding a child solids that early is absurd Teresa (feel like I'm talking to myself here now). Never said you couldn't state your opinion, but I as well as many, many medical professionals disagree w/ you.

Susanna - posted on 02/24/2012

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WAY too early. 4 months at the earliest? I really would get a second opinion. This doctor sounds outdated.

Claire - posted on 02/24/2012

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I would start solids when your baby is sitting up and drooling not before 4 months. drooling is not just a sign of teeth coming but also that they are ready for solid food. Start with rice cereal mixed with breast milk, the enzymes in the breast milk help them digest better. after a couple of weeks with no probelms such as gas or constipastion add one vegetable at a time, waiting another couple of weeks before adding another kind. If baby starts having probelms cut out solids and just breastfeed until baby is older.

Jan - posted on 02/24/2012

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Wow, what a bunch of paranoid people!!!! There is no when they "should" eat- they eat when they are hungry and ready! My daughter is 4 now- I started cereal and fruits around 6 weeks, veggies at 7 weeks then mixed meals and meat at 8 weeks- they have things called feeder bottles, takes care of most of the issues people complained of on here! Baby will sleep better, only do 1 jar a day, if constipation arises from cereal that's too thick give them water or juice that'll cure it or thin the cereal down. She never had a problem- mine was sitting unsuporrted @ 2 months and had a pincher grasp going on! Starting earlier encourages an open mind about foods and trying new foods! Family doctors are so much better, pediatrician are such block heads- coming from someone who was working toward becoming one!

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Holy cow! What makes people think that newborns need food? Because they fuss, don't sleep well, want to be held? That's a BABY! I waited until my babies showed the signs of readiness (around 6 months, able to sit unsupported, lost tongue thrust reflex, developed pincer grasp, showing an interest...) my first was almost 9 months. My second just started solids at almost 7 months. She was 19 lbs (7 lbs 6 oz at birth) so obviously breast milk alone was more than enough.



Hannah, you asked if we thought it was too early. Yes it is. My pedi said we could start rice cereal at 4 months. So I made sure to research and I found all of the benefits of waiting to start. I understand that you may like and trust your pediatrician and that's ok. But, you don't have to do everything he suggests. Some doctors aren't up to date on certain things, it's up to us to take their information and do our research to decide what's best. you may have said, but I missed it, are you breast feeding or formula feeding? If he's breastfed simply out him to the breast when he show signs of hunger. If you formula feed, does he take a paci? Babies like to suck. Or maybe try wearing him. Also a way to calm a fussy baby. What makes you think he needs solids (other than the doctors recommendation)?



I really do encourage you to look up the "virgin gut" and why you should delay solids. Many good links have been posted here already.

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Giving an infant rice cereal causes them to sleep more because their stomachs stretch out so they over eat. They are fuller longer so they don't get hungry when they should. Rice cereal is nutritionally void so basically they are over eating bad foods and getting nothing from it.

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If your child has allergies to something you DO NOT need to wean them from breastmilk, you need to stop consuming what they are reacting to...



Breast is best, all my kids ended up being supplemented with formula eventually but allergies alone are not a reason for weaning

SHONDA - posted on 02/24/2012

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I gave my children rice cereal when they were a little over 2 months but only a pinch in every other feeding and they never had any issues. It actually helps them sleep a little better and longer. But as for jar foods, I would wait until abt 5-6 months and then start with the first stages. If you wait too long then they'll be too old for the first 2 stages.

Bonnie - posted on 02/24/2012

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Formula is thicker than breastmilk so I don't see why formula wouldn't cut it. Something doesn't sound right.



Just because one child starts solids at a month old with no problems whatsoever, does not mean that it will be the same for every child. I will say it again, things have change majorly since the olden days, even since the 80s. More testing and experiments have been done to prove that certain things are not right or doing this will cause that. Why take the chance?

Merry - posted on 02/24/2012

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This thread is really showing me how inferior formula really is.

I know everyone freaks out about people saying breast is best but seriously formula sounds like its just totally lacking!

Babies live and THRIVE off only breastmilk for 6-12 months! Formula can't even cut it for 2 weeks??"??

Messed up. And I hope that's not normal.

Jenni - posted on 02/24/2012

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There are also formulas available for infants with allergies or sensitivities to milk and/or soy where the proteins are more broken down.

Jodi - posted on 02/24/2012

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Oh, and if I can add, there ARE formulas available that don't have soy at all, so I'm not buying it.

Tina - posted on 02/24/2012

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Post a reply!I do think it is too early. Five months is the earliest for rice cereal, then 6 mos to be adding fruit from the jar and veggies from the jar. Your gut instinct is right. Moms know best!

Jodi - posted on 02/24/2012

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I'm assuming breastfeeding wasn't an option for you Teresa? I'm not going to get into that debate, but there really is no soy in breastmilk, and if you were shoving food down your kid's throat at 2 weeks, why did your doctor not recommend exploring options for helping breastfeeding or pumping breastmilk as a suitable alternative? Sorry, I still disagree that this could possibly be the best option for any baby, especially with the various options available.

Teresa - posted on 02/24/2012

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my son had problems with soy in formulas, he would not just spit up but vomit across the room and scream in agony. by feeding him baby food without the soy in them he was able to stay alive. look on formula labels, everyone of them has soy listed within the 1st 5-6 ingredients. check out gerber cereals, it has soy in it, i fed him that and he vomited just the same as formula, i gave him beechnut cereal, he kept it down and was satisfied. i gave him fruits and veggies, he kept those down and was satisfied. we finally got our hands on a rice starch added formula and he still spit up but a little more like a normal baby does. he has outgrown the problem with soy but if i wouldn't have fed him he woulda been taken away by cps. feeding a baby is not that "absurd" i feed them bottle after bottle, they finish one and want another all day long, not feeling content for anytime between. so i give them an ounce or two of food, they sit content for a couple hours after. then drink another bottle. i dont care what health organizations say, they aren't the baby's mom. government and scientists don't know whats best for MY baby. and neither do any of you. this is an opinion based website and i can share my opinion anyway i want whether anyone agrees or not.

Karen - posted on 02/24/2012

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Do what the Dr says. They are who we should listen to. If you don't trust him find one you trust to know what is best.

Jenni - posted on 02/24/2012

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Actually, there are risks involved. That's why the globally accepted recommendations are *at least* 4-6 months.



Increased risk of choking (before they develop the tongue-thrust reflex that doesn't develop until 4-6 months).



Increased risk of obesity by age 3. 25% children fed solids under 3 months vs. 5% of children fed solids between 4-5 months.



Increased risk of type 1 diabetes for those at risk.





Rice Cereal is the white bread of baby foods. It has very little nutritional value. It is made of white rice which your body just turns to sugar. To imply rice cereal is better for a baby than what they would be obtaining from BM or formula had it not been introduced is asinine. Filling a baby up with water with no nutritional value when they need the extra nutrition to grow and for their brain to develop properly absolutely blows my mind.



There is no harm in waiting until at least 4 months. But there is potential harm in starting too early. Both my children passed their birth weight by a good 7-9oz by a week old. And continued to gain weight at an exceptional rate until 6 months old when I started solids, on breast milk alone. Rice cereal just gave my son digestive problems. So with my daughter we started with pureed fruits and veggies with no issues.

Kelly - posted on 02/24/2012

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My baby is 3 months old now n he has been on solids baby food now since he was a month and a half. It does not harm a baby to feed them baby food. Just make sure for allergy purposes that when tryin new foods that you give it a week before tryin something different. That gives plenty of time to make sure they are not allergic to it. Allergic reaction would be a rash. I had 5 kids n all them were eatin baby food at young ages. N my 3 month old eats off a spoon just fine n swollows it just fine.

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we had a friend whose dr told her not to feed him anything formula until he was 6 to 8 mos. we visited them and the baby was screaming. The hadn't slept for hours. my husband thought they should take him to the hospital couldn't i do something. i asked permission to tell what i would do. they said yes. i told my husband to go to the store and get rice cereal. we got it and i mixed a little cereal in the formula and she fed him. he went to sleep and slept for 4 hours. they were astounded. i told them to not over do it but to feel it out. he will let them know when he need more. they did fine got sleep and baby grew like a week and is healthy and happy child.

Jodi - posted on 02/24/2012

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Well, I had friends having babies in the late 80s, early 90s, and I call bullshit.

Stifler's - posted on 02/24/2012

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Again this was in the 70s... it's 2012. There's been new research done in the last 35 years.

Stifler's - posted on 02/24/2012

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I think that may be true Teresa. My MIL put farex in my SILs bottles before they left the hospital because they told her to. Apparently.

Merry - posted on 02/24/2012

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Did they do intra uterin rice cereal for fetuses over 8lbs?

:-D

I was born at 9.5 lbs :):):)

Heehee my brother was born at 10.5lbs. We started solids around 5 months each. Breastmilk baby, it's the ultimate super food

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Doctors in '86 were recommending starting solids at 8 pounds?! Can anyone legitimate confirm or deny this for me? Cuz I was born in '76 and even though I was only 5 pounds something ounces.... I'm pretty sure I didn't start solids til at least 6 months. Of course, I DID have growth issues (completely unrelated to diet) and was only 13 pounds at 13 months.... the same weight my son was at 2 months. My mom was ahead of her time though and my older brother and I both weren't weaned til around 2 years. ♥

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I feel weird saying it like this, but Teresa.... that's absurd. ;)



My son got absolutely nothing but breast milk until he was 6 months old and then ate solids probably less than once a week til over 9 months... and then maybe a couple times/week up to once/day until and even after a year.... and he was crawling at 5 months and taking his first step at 9 months. In his second 3 days of life the boy gained 12 ounces!



Breast milk (or formula) IS food for babies and it has everything they need to grow and thrive for at LEAST 4-6 months.

Merry - posted on 02/24/2012

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Hi sherri! Welcome back! How's Bentley :) cute picture btw.

She did say she's breastfeeding so there's no such thing as 'too much' breastmilk :)

Merry - posted on 02/24/2012

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Teresa Dupree that's the most insane statement I've ever heard on this topic!

, would you want togo 6 months without being able to eat?



I mean seriously!

Is processed rice cereal so much more tasty and satisfying then breastmilk?

Humans, even adults, can live on breastmilk alone!

It's what you'd call a complete food.

It has EVERYTHING a baby needs for at least 6 months!



Hannah, when your dr starts giving advise that goes against our national health organizations then yes he is an idiot.

His advise should be in align with national and worldwide recommendations.

LOOKat the links. Google it. Solid foods are not good for 2 month olds. Wait til he's 6 months.

Sherri - posted on 02/24/2012

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If he is drinking to much milk then listen to your doctor. If there are no issues then the recommendations are between 4-6mo's and cereal is just fine to introduce as a first food, despite what others say. I am not sure I would start fruits at this age though.

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My child had to be put on homemade baby food way early (2 months) because she was allergic to breast milk and formula she was also started on cows milk early (6 months). I had a nice baby food bottle the dr. told me about so she wouldnt choke It was very nice to see my baby eating and not in pain. Sometimes you have to do it to save your baby's life.

Teresa - posted on 02/24/2012

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my first was 2 weeks old and i starte feeding him then. hes 6 now without problems, my 4 year old was started at 3 weeks. she doesn't have any problems. my 2 year old didn't tolerate food til she was 3 months. she doesn't have problems either. my 3 1/2 month old loves to eat fruits. i started her at 6 weeks. they get hungry before 6 months comes along, would you want togo 6 months without being able to eat? i also have given each of my babies water to drink. not a lot, they get to choose how much to drink, i put te bottle in her mouth and she sucks as long as she wants then i make it milk and she drinks what she wants of that too. i don't feed her more than once a day and its usually only a couple times a week til shes a little older. she has no trouble getting the food down her throat, she swallows more than she spits out. my mom tells me that when i was born in '86, the drs said once baby weighs 8lbs they can eat food. i was born weighing over 8lbs so i was fed when i was less than a month old as well. my babies were all 8+lbs a birth but they started crawling at 5 months and walking between 8and 10 months.if your going to feed your baby, hes gonna grow muscles faster and be up moving faster.

Marelise - posted on 02/24/2012

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Way to early. They recommend that you wait until baby is 16 weeks old or even later. I started my daughter at 5 and half months. Speak to your health visitor.

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i didn't start my daughter on solids until she was about 4mo, and even then we relied heavily on formula until 6mo, at which point she started eating solids and has been ever since. i don't know why a doctor would say to start them earlier than 4mo because of the choking risk. i've heard of cereal in the bottle to help with reflux, but fruits? not before four months.

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I'm not trying to start a war or whatever. I am trying to help. When it comes to food, there is absolutely a rule on whats best for babies. Its not about milestones, its about biology, you cant argue with science.

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Well if hes telling you to start a 2 month old on food then yes, that is an idiotic suggestion. While I may not be a Dr, I am studying to be a holistic nutritionist. So I think my "opinion" holds some validity. Considering that its fact not opinion.



Heres an idea then, if you don't like our suggestions. Go to google and type in "when to introduce solids" select see how many links come up with SIX MONTHS OR OLDER. Most links provide scientific research backing their claims so its not like just some random person on the internet saying so. Every child may be different, but we all have the same organs.

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My dr is far from an idiot for the third time hes one of the best drs in the area. And there is absolutley no rule on when to do any thing with your child opions are one thing Yor not a dr so calling mine a idiot is ridiculous. This subject has become a war i do appreciate the opions but the mothers who are saying my dr is wrong or i need a new one keep it to yourself please every dr is diff and same with every child i wish i never started this war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Your dr is an idiot and i suggest you get a new one.



The rule is, no solids before 6 months and any food they eat before one is just practice, they should still be getting the majority of their nutrition from milk/formula up to a year.

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