The Great Pot Debate

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I must say, to each their own; yet the way many treat this medicine is ignominious to say the least and imply much more. Sure, I get that smoking it isn't the best way to consume but there are vaporizers available these days or butters made with in which to bake with or spread on toast..
I came here to see what the Motherhood was doing these days and I was a little put off by many of the near cruel comments many made towards Mothers that used Cannabis as a coping method for stress, nausea, appetite loss while either pregnant or after birth.
I figure, if one knows where it comes from , what goes into it (preferably grows their own and organically) uses a vaporizer privately (to eliminate the smoke) and it is a low THC level without any chemical used whilst growing, it is a far better and natural method than any pharmaceutical around. And after the babies born, cannabis is far safer on Mom than alcohol, tobacco or stressing out big time.
I am oh so curious what others think. Please bring your true selves and thoughts. I can take it.
and anyone that thinks cannabis is either a gate way so called drug or is addictive, I strongly encourage you to read actual viable proper studies regarding such and not some comment you found online from a questionable source.
thank you kindly,
bring compassion.

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Dina - posted on 04/03/2015

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Sorry, as a former consumer, I had to point out that Vape pens used to consume nicotine and marijuana vaporizers ($200- $500+) used to consume cannabis are not the same thing. There are no chemicals in the vaporizers used to consume canabis

Jodi - posted on 04/02/2015

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Actually, Molly, while most people can use it without becoming addicted, marijuana addiction is very real for some people - approximately 9% in fact. This was shown in a study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Marijuana dependence is at over 20%. Marijuana creates a physiological response when the effects wear off. Withdrawal symptoms from reducing marijuana use are very real for some people. This is where the addiction comes in.

Honestly, if you saw 15 year olds who had to come to school stoned every day, or didn't come to school at all because they couldn't handle not being stoned, you'd be concerned too. It truly can ruin lives and to minimise that is irresponsible.

If mothers are using marijuana to cope with their stress, then they are dependent, just the same way people get addicted to painkillers, alcohol, and so on - when they stop taking them, they have a negative physiological response (the stress), so they "need" the marijuana. Half of them have probably even developed an addiction.

Add to this the fact that prolonged marijuana use in young people whose brains are still developing actually disrupts the development of various areas of the brain, causing permanent impairment. If this is what it does to teenagers, imagine what it does to the development of a fetus's brain.It doesn't compare to fetal alcohol syndrome, but THC does in fact interfere with brain development. It is not recommended to use while pregnant, and if it is absolutely necessary for medical purposes, then it should be discussed with a doctor as a risk vs benefit situation. But to dismiss that there are no risks to a fetus is irresponsible.

Jodi - posted on 03/31/2015

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Actually, I beg to differ. I, too, have done my research, in particular when studying for my psychology degree. Marijuana IS addictive - people become psychologically reliant on it, developing a dependency. I have seen the use of marijuana ruin lives because of addiction. Yes, psychological addiction is very real, and marijuana, like any drug, can ruin lives when abused, just as alcohol can. Which is why, I will never condone use of it when pregnant - because even if you talk just a tiny bit, just a tiny bit of alcohol matters too.

There have never actually been an true empirical scientific studies of the effects of marijuana on unborn babies. Why? Because you can't actually ethically do a controlled study on such a thing. For that reason, any data available for the effects of marijuana on infants are not actually true scientific studies with controlled testing but more like correlations of people who smoked it while they were pregnant. And there are studies that have shown it isn't completely safe for the baby.

No assumptions or lack of understanding here.

Raye - posted on 03/31/2015

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Molly, okay, so I did my research. Up until December 2014, medical use of pot was still Federally illegal. The states that had "legalized" medical marijuana had done so against Federal law, and their growers and providers were subject to Federal raid and seizure. Apparently this past December, congress quietly lifted the ban on medical marijuana use. So, if you live in one of those states, and you have a medical marijuana prescription, then whatever, good for you. Everywhere else, and without a prescription, marijuana is still illegal.

Even if legal, I would not condone it's use while pregnant or within sight of children. Alcohol is legal, and I'm not going to drink it while pregnant and I have never consumed alcohol in front of my kids... not even at a restaurant. Our kids are not allowed a lot of pop, and when they do, it's non-caffeinated (and this was my husband's rule with his kids before I met him). I don't even like taking aspirin for a headache. I don't like any dependency on chemicals to make me feel better. That's how I choose to live my life. You have your opinion, and you're not going to change your mind. I have my opinion, and I'm not going to change my mind. Lets agree to disagree.

And I never said pot's only use was to get high. I have seen programs where they've shown other medical properties of the drug and it does seem to be an impressive substance. But it's still a drug. It still changes your body chemistry. I think it is a viable solution for some people's medical issues, but not in an uncontrolled, self-medicating environment, not for simple anxiety... and not while pregnant or around kids, whether smoking, eating, or otherwise ingesting this drug. I'm sorry, but that's my opinion.

Jodi - posted on 03/31/2015

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Maybe mothers who are so stressed they need to use cannabis should consider finding alternative strategies. Sorry, but any "need", whether physical, emotional or psychological, on any sort of substance, whether you deem it harmless or not, is still indicative of addiction. Do you also see a psychologist or therapist on a regular basis? If not, then you are dependent on your "drug". Even if you take pharmaceuticals, you should be seeing a therapist.

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Jodi - posted on 04/04/2015

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"I am oh so curious what others think. Please bring your true selves and thoughts. I can take it."

Apparently she couldn't take it.....

Jodi - posted on 04/04/2015

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Cry me a river.

Psychology major? No, I have more life experience than that. I WAS a psychology major. I am well beyond that now.

Time on my hands? Yes, it is Easter. I have a 4 day weekend, my husband is working, one child is away and the other is doing a project I am helping her with here and there. I happen to feel passionate enough about this particular topic to spend time responding to it.

The put downs? Lady, did you read your posts? The ones where you made assumptions everyone on this post was ignorant, knew nothing and didn't do their research? But of course, you didn't put anyone here down! Shall I repeat the number of times you told a number of EDUCATED mothers they didn't know anything?

You didn't say there was no risk involved in those exact words? No, you're right. You didn't say it in those exact words. But you still said it.

I don't want to be told I'm right. I don't care what you think. But it absolutely appals and disgusts me that someone can go onto a public forum and tell people there is nothing wrong with smoking marijuana when you are pregnant because it does no damage to the fetus (your exact words were "no teratogenic effects on either the embryo or the fetus or long term on babies into children.") This is simply NOT the case and to insinuate that studies show otherwise is misleading and untrue. I will not EVER stand by and watch someone making these claims and not fight back, because people with those beliefs are potentially harming innocent children. Period. THAT is the reason I picked through your post and argued your point so hard. Not because I wanted to be right, but because you are advocating harming babies.

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Wow, pissing match eh Jodi? No thanks. But thanks for the grammar lesson.
I can see this is going no where fast. You still implied in your posts that I actually said that there was NO Risk involved which I did not say those exact words. So your opinion is just that, an opinion, what you got from it and certainly no grounds to tell others I said there was no risk to mumsy or baby.
Have fun stroking. Thanks for the put downs. Just what I thought would happen
Your a psychology major hey? Interesting. Got some time on your hands hey?
well, see you later. I won't be back. No need to go through my posts and reboot them whilst picking them apart. Waste of time. You want to be told your right.

regards motherhood circle people. Have fun. I do not care if people disagree but the insults to my English, well, come on.. good grief jodi

So this is where some of the group of mean girls came when they grew up. How interesting.
Such a proud moment.
still, be well, take care and fair thee well.

Jodi - posted on 04/04/2015

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Hang on a minute... "I strongly encourage you to read actual viable proper studies" and ""I figure" meaning, once again, MY opinion. an opinion.
My position, my opinion, what ever. I'm not singing the high praises here" are actually two totally different types of singing. You have insinuated right throughout this conversation that people have not done their research and then proceed to tell us this is your opinion....Allow me to reintroduce you to some of your claims:

" I believe if you actually did some research from credible sources you would both find interesting results that contradict your views." ~~~ condescending views toward many women who ARE actually educated on the topic and HAVE stated some very valid points.

"This plant is a medicine. Used in small amounts and properly administered has no teratogenic effects on either the embryo or the fetus or long term on babies into children. " ~~~ Dismissing the potential affects on the fetus and children - absolutely no recognition or acknowledgement of the issues in relations to brain development that I have pointed out. It doesn't matter HOW small the amount, it still has an effect. Even a small effect is not okay if the benefits are not identified.

" I do believe you actually know very little about it and would find, (if you did the actual research from credible sources) that your jumping the gun somewhat here;" ~~~ Again, totally dismissing any evidence there is that there are negative effects. (and it is You're for you are, not Your jumping the gun, if we want to get condescending).

"Marijuana IS NOT ADDICTIVE. " ~~~ Yes, yes it is. You have TOTALLY disregarded any comment or evidence that suggests that there is a 9% addiction rate (no, not high, but high enough) and a 20% dependence rate (I'm happy to explain the difference if you need me to).

"There is no evidence cannabis is addictive. Please show me where your getting your intel from. I am rather curious." ~~~ And this is where you just decided to be a bitch.

" I came here to ask opinions; " ~~~ Actually, no you didn't. You asked nothing. You came here to tell us "I strongly encourage you to read actual viable proper studies regarding such and not some comment you found online from a questionable source." as if our research is less than yours and as if our opinions are actually useless because of that

"your comment on the CPS?? please don't throw what could be perceived as a threat.. It's poor form." ~~~ That wasn't a threat. That is a fact. If you have been smoking pot, and it is known, CPS will most likely be called. That's what happens. If you see it as a threat, I apologise. I had no idea you were pregnant and smoking marijuana. You didn't mention that in any of your posts. I figured you were posting this as a hypothetical debate topic, not a personal battle you were having.

I have actually repeatedly explained to you that THC alters brain development in babies and children (and teenagers). Why are NOT acknowledging that?

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Jodi.

If you re read my original post you will see that I made no claim it was risk free. I will quote myself to readily re cap what I wrote just to clear things up for you okay?

"I figure, (meaning My 'opinion'), if one knows where it comes from, what goes into it (preferably grows their own and organically) uses a vaporizer 'privately' (to eliminate the smoke) (for weed, not cigs, yes i'm adding these in) and it is a LOW THC level without Any chemical used whilst growing, it is a far better and natural method than any pharmaceutical around."

-now that was all in one sentence was it not? So it all falls under, "I figure" meaning, once again, MY opinion. an opinion.
My position, my opinion, what ever. I'm not singing the high praises here and I get a kick out the fact that while your telling me that I dismissed any possible risks, I'm just can't find on my O.P where I did that.
OH yes, and your comment on the CPS?? please don't throw what could be perceived as a threat.. It's poor form.
I shared information I know about this medicinal herb. That is all.
I'd advise you to re read my o.p before making such unjust statements but my spidey senses tell me not to bother.
good luck to you

Jodi - posted on 04/03/2015

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"alright then,
here's hoping none of us ever have a need for the benefits of this plant be us pregnant, not pregnant or wanting to be pregnant."

Actually, noone here SAID it had no medicinal qualities. With this statement, you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. For example, I know people who have had terminal cancer where marijuana has actually helped with the pain and the nausea of treatment, therefore increasing quality of life.

I don't think you have to take an all or nothing approach to this. But your position in your OP was that there was nothing wrong with using it while pregnant. You have tried to convince us that it is not addictive (studies show that it can be - and you can't know if you will be amongst that 20% who develop an addiction or dependence), you have tried to convince us it is harmless to the fetus (which studies again have shown that it is not, you were completely dismissing the effect of THC on brain development), you have tried to convince us that it is virtually harmless (which it is not).

As I said earlier " if it is absolutely necessary for medical purposes, then it should be discussed with a doctor as a risk vs benefit situation. But to dismiss that there are no risks to a fetus is irresponsible." I will also say that to dismiss that it is addictive for some people, that it CAN cause irrepairable damage, that it isn't harmless, is irresponsible and inaccurate. There ARE risks, and I, for one, get tired of people trying to convince others that there aren't.

If you want to smoke it, go ahead. I'm not going to tell you not to. But don't smoke it in the belief that there are no risks, because you are only fooling yourself. And if you are pregnant, don't tell yourself it is harmless to your baby, because it isn't. It really is that simple. Also remember, that if you smoke it in pregnancy, and it is found out, there is also the risk a visit by CPS because you have put that baby in a potentially harmful situation.

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now now, let's not be like that shall we. I came back didn't I?
No evasion; had a bathroom emergency. tee hee.

Regarding the vaporizer. Is that for all types? Pity if so. Will have to research that one so thanks for the heads up there Shawn, appreciated. People may to have to kick it old school with that one.

Yes, there are some risks everywhere but sometimes, if the benefits greatly outweigh the risks and the application is monitored safely as can be, this medicinal plant is an option for those who either cannot or don't want the pharmaceutical approach for whatever their reasons may be.

Folks, I came here to ask opinions; I got them and thank you kindly for that. I saw another post by a lady who got fairly ripped apart by people here. This prompted me to ask again because from any reputable studies I have delved into, having a wee toke to alleviate severe nausea, or bring back the appetite seemed fairly benign compared to many of the Pharms available that have been proved to be not so great.
So, to summarize in a nutshell from folks here:
Marijuana= bad....especially for Mum's.
alright then,
here's hoping none of us ever have a need for the benefits of this plant be us pregnant, not pregnant or wanting to be pregnant.
thanks again all and have a good day
kind regards,
me

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 04/03/2015

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Nice evasion of questions there, Molly ;-)

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Yes I agree not for most Mumsies. Always certain circumstances for some though.

Truly appreciate all the insights into this subject and yes, I agree, time to move on.

warm regards Motherhoods

Molly

Raye - posted on 04/02/2015

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And, Molly, you still have not shared your reason why this subject hits home for you. Maybe making it more personal would help us see your point as this being a valid option for YOUR circumstances, although we will probably still agree it wouldn't be the right choice for most expectant mothers.

Raye - posted on 04/02/2015

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Molly,
No, my last message should not have read with undertones. I felt that one was pretty blatant. Let me make it more clear with out any subtlety at all... You are no better than big pharmaceutical companies toting all the benefits of their medication and that the side effects are negligible.

My mom tried to quit smoking cigarettes when she was pregnant with my sister, and was a nervous wreck. The (seeming) result is that my sister is very high-strung and flighty. My mom continued to smoke while she was pregnant with me, and she was more calm. Believe it or not, I am more laid-back and patient than my sister. Does that mean I should go around telling all pregnant mothers to smoke cigarettes? No. I'm not going to do that. Just because I was otherwise ok, doesn't mean that it's the right thing for all mothers to do to their unborn babies. Different people react differently to these substances and there can be more harmful effects of that (Case in point: I'm allergic to Penicillin, which is "natural" and very helpful to most people, but makes me die). Also, I feel there are other ways to combat stress that may not be as lazy as tokin' on some weed, but is more healthy in the long run for both baby and mother.

If you think it should be widely available in multiples forms and you think it's ok to use while you're pregnant, then that's your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. You have shared that opinion with us. Thanks! I hope all your kids turn out ok. And let's now move on.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 04/02/2015

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Molli Mari, you keep telling others to 'do your research' and 'use valid sources'.

You are aware, are you not, that vape pens (both for THC consumption and tobacco) are now being found to have the same or similar health concerns that actual smoking, that the chemicals used in the process could actually be more harmful than actually inhaling the smoke?
And, that by consuming marijuana in smokeable form WILL leave lasting damage to your lungs with the residue left, just as the tar from nicotine will?

There are medical benefits, yes, and there are those who CAN smoke for recreational use without a lot of negative effects, but the negative effects ARE there.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/02/2015

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"This plant is a medicine. Used in small amounts and properly administered has no teratogenic effects on either the embryo or the fetus or long term on babies into children.
I strongly urge you to do the work before implying mothers do this to, once again, as you say, "to get high" good golly."

Cocaine comes from plants also.

What other reason would a pregnant women NEED to smoke pot then? Enlighten me.

Cause if they are stressed, yoga and meditation are much more natural and they don't have to put ANYTHING into their bodies. Right? No high to worry about, no worrying about affecting the baby.

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Dear Raye Ramsey,
"regurgitating"?? , How pleasant. Yes, your very kind and no undertones there at all.

I believe you were one of the circle of M's that ripped apart that other lady as well regarding this subject.
You ought read your posts and see how you come off.
I'll do the same.
P.S
I did not ask what you thought of me personally but rather the topic. I offered the info/intel I have found as just that, an offering. Take that as you may

Raye - posted on 04/02/2015

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Molly,
My comments were based off how I interpreted the tone of your messages. Yes, you're allowed to put your two bits in. However, you talk about our posts being laced with undertones, and that could just be your bias affecting your interpretation. Maybe it's my bias affecting my interpretation, but it seems like you are posting your opinion as undeniable fact, and we're all stupid for thinking differently. I posted my opinion where I agreed it has medicinal properties, but people are not responsible with it, and I don't feel it should be used to self-medicate. You're welcome to take this opinion or leave it.

You keep pushing your view, "strongly urging" us to do our research in every single post, and that leads me to feel that you are trying to change our minds. Also, that you didn't get the response you were looking for at the other forum, and are now trying to push your opinion here leads me to think you are trying to convince someone to agree with you. You want to increase awareness... okay. Got it. If you have something more meaningful to say, please say it. Or keep regurgitating the same stuff from your soap box. That's fine too. Just don't put us down for our opinion being different than yours. I have not read anything by the other members here that has been disrespectful to you. And as you said, all comments and responses should be taken kindly and welcomed.

Why do you care? This question was posed by me because you do seem so adamant to have us do our research and to agree with you. You obviously have had some personal experience that sparked this as your platform to speak out for, so, I was just wondering why it seems so personal an issue to you.

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Dear Raye,
I am not trying to change any minds. Am I not allowed to put my two bits in? And /or respond to any comments?; or is this a one sided type circle of people that all have to agree with one another? I am sure this is an open board and all comments and responses are taken kindly and welcomed.
and your question, "why do I care"?
I'm not sure what you mean by that. But yes, I am a generally caring person. If that answers your question though again, not quite sure why you'd even ask.
regards

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Dear Jodi,
Jamaican studies done by Dr. Melanie Dreher however the plant over there at that time was far less potent than it is now.
Dr. Frank Lucido also has a site with some interesting myths and facts regarding the subject.
Another interesting article was done by 'Paul Armentano' from NORML magazine titled 'Breathe, Push, Puff? Pot Use and Pregnancy: A Review of the Literature.

Empirical Studies? Your call. Perhaps Dr. Dreher's would come closest.

Dr.Wei-Ni Lin Curry used therapeutic cannabis to help her through her own personal bout of hyperemesis gravidarum (a potentially life threatening condition *severe nausea, malnutrition, weight loss during pregancy*) and it saved both her and her babies life. You can read all about it in the article mentioned above by Paul.

Then there's the medical publication about the Chronic marijuana smoke exposure in the Rhesus monkey. Sad they did that but it wouldn't be the first time or last time animals were/are used in medical studies. Interesting read really. They only found minor issues with extreme high levels of exposure; certainly more than any one would need to treat symptoms.
But you've probably read and studied these studies and articles when you did your psychology degree. Congrats by the way.
There is no evidence cannabis is addictive. Please show me where your getting your intel from. I am rather curious.

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Smoking is nasty... I don't care what is being smoked. I don't know about using pot in other forms, but I do know that 'I' am personally against it and would never do it. If you have a seizure disorder or similar and have access to the oil... that is worth considering, but if you can't relieve your stress w/out smoking or drinking something.... seek professional help. ;)

Raye - posted on 03/31/2015

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Oh, and forgetting about the site being international, I was referring to it being illegal in the USA. Not so in some other countries.

Raye - posted on 03/31/2015

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Molly, you wanted to spark debate and you have. What does it matter to you to try and change some of our minds?

Marijuana itself may not be addictive, but as I said with my mom and cigarettes her addiction is more than the physical chemicals. People get addicted to pain killers... why? Because they have addictive properties? Maybe, but it's more about the way they feel.. an escape from the pain. You want to use marijuana to take the edge off your stress, fine, but some people would use it more and more as a coping mechanism. Drugs don't affect people the same way. I know people that smoke cigarettes socially and are not addicted to them. They can go years without a cigarette, without withdrawal. So, why smoke socially? It's a mental thing. To them, it makes the social situation more enjoyable. Just because you can control your use of a drug doesn't mean that other people can.

I don't think that marijuana is any worse than alcohol, and it could be better, actually. I don't care if it's legalized. I'm still not going to do it, and I still don't see the need to use it while pregnant or in the view of children. Again, only my opinion... some anonymous person on the internet... so why do you care?

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My goodness. And there it is again. Assumptions. To the last poster, I am not the one who takes the tokes. I am placing a question forward due to the lack of understanding this site of ladies seems to have regarding medical marijuana use in low amounts during horrible nausea or lack of appetite or terrible stress during pregnancy. There are always variables and exceptions to every case..

Once again, please do research from 'credible' sources. Not from others here. Get your facts and myths straight before hand please. Marijuana IS NOT ADDICTIVE.
and as far as being illegal in the States. WEll, that's a sad shame. It wasn't always that way.
I surely do appreciate the feedback though it seems some comments are rather laced with 'mean' undertones of a pack orientation but I do appreciate the one or two, few compassionate responses.
And Again, to some, I strongly urge you to take off the blinders and do the work/research and read all of it, figure it out before implying a woman's a bad person/Mother for going natural remedies over pharmaceutical ...like too many did on another thread (which is what prompted me to do this in the first place)
good luck everyone. oh yes, and to Raye RAmsey; I am not saying sit there and smoke a whole joint. For nausea, or to return an appetite, ONE wee toke is enough. Don't want the smoke? Use a vaporizer. Good on you for doing some reading though if you still think Marijuana is addictive, I am curious as to where you got that info. Do take care and be well in the MotherHood.
That is all.
Good luck ladies.

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Both of you seem to be focusing on the whole "getting high" scenario which I 'll have to once again clear up. And you seem to be under some impression that all pot is super strong and potent which it is not.
Again, I urge you to do some research before lumping cannabinoids into the same category as alcohol, tobacco or mind altering drugs.... and consider it a medicinal approach, not a need to abuse substance like you seem to be assuming..
thank you for your thoughts though but I do believe you actually know very little about it and would find, (if you did the actual research from credible sources) that your jumping the gun somewhat here; still, I do appreciate and understand why you have the views you do.
kindly,
molly

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Though I can understand why you have the views you do, you both seem to be Assuming women do this to, as you say, "get high" which is hurtful to say the least and imply much more. Cannabis is not illegal everywhere. Many people have medical licenses and are able to produce their own.
Mothers than treat symptoms with mild strains via ingesting or using a vaporizer and in small amounts, I believe if you actually did some research from credible sources you would both find interesting results that contradict your views.
This plant is a medicine. Used in small amounts and properly administered has no teratogenic effects on either the embryo or the fetus or long term on babies into children.
I strongly urge you to do the work before implying mothers do this to, once again, as you say, "to get high" good golly.

Raye - posted on 03/30/2015

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I have to agree with Little Miss. 1. Pot is illegal. It doesn't matter if the states make it okay to smoke for medical purposes, federally it is still illegal. 2. It is a mind altering substance. Smoking tobacco, smoking weed, drinking alcohol, drinking too much coffee or pop... anything that causes a high or changes your mental state is not good while you're pregnant and it's not a good environment for your child to be raised in. 3. If you "need" these chemicals to cope, then you need non-chemical help with your stress management.

Are there worse things? Sure. Does that make it right? No.

My mom is convinced she needs cigarettes, beyond just the physical addiction of them. So she will never quit. And that is bad for her health, and bad for people around her not just because of the smoke itself. It's hard for her to sit and enjoy a meal or watch a movie with the family without craving a cigarette. She's not a chain smoker, but it still rules her life. Pot may not be as physically addictive as cigarettes, but I think it is more mentally addictive for the person trying to escape. I know some adults that "need" it to combat stress, and they are not the most responsible people (one got her son taken away from her). All I'm saying is there are healthier ways to deal. And, as Little Miss stated, the problems are still there once the high wears off.

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I totally agree with Miss. I also don't think that doing anything that can get you inebriated around your children is a good idea. I don't by the whole "I smoke, drink, get high because I'm stressed" crap. There's plenty of other ways to deal with stress, that doesn't inebriate you. The only people who should be long with any kind of drugs like that, ate terminal patients, and the cannabis oil has been proven to be better than vapeing or anything else, and you still don't get high.

And yes, eating pot will get you high, second hand will get you high. My bio father used to make us special cake that had pot in it and thought it was funny to bring my sister and I back to our Mom after a visitation because we were high. Same thing with second hand. He'd smile in front of us and we'd get high. Visitation was totally taken away by the time I was 7, luckily.

Anything that you think you can't live without, is an addiction. Many people ate addicted to drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes, caffeine, and plenty of other stuff, including pot. So yes, it is addictive.

And that's all I'm going to say on the subject.

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I have no problem with adults that smoke pot. I don't care. But when a pregnant mother smokes, drinks alcohol, smokes pot, or uses other mind altering substance (legal or not) it affects the baby. There is plenty of scientific proof that anything a pregnant mother ingests, or takes into her body, the baby does also. I am not sure this should be part of your "Great pot debate" considering it would be harming the fetus. Why is that alright on any level? Just to get high for a couple of hours that could give life long issues to your baby? If you cannot stop drugs and are thinking about getting pregnant....don't. If you are on drugs while pregnant, get help.

If a mom is so stressed out during pregnancy that they HAVE to smoke pot (no they don't) then there are bigger issues at hand that need to be addressed, and won't be fixed by getting high. The problems will still be there once sober, and then the guilt will be piled on top of all the other stress factors....the guilt of the harm you may have done to your child....the long lasting effects it can have. Give me a break.

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