Vaccinations

Maria - posted on 05/30/2015 ( 14 moms have responded )

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I would like to hear if other parents who took the decision for their children not to be vaccinated, have experienced a reaction by the grown up child resulting in the healthy young adult choosing to be vaccinated. To him I am biased. He is an adult and a Physics graduate, the third of five children (youngest now 16). None of them have been vaccinated and all have benefited from a healthy upbringing based on a preventative approach with occasional consultations with our family homoeopath. I see this as an individual's issue with repercussions which a) affect the healing of our family genealogy and b) offers support to pharmaceutical companies whose ethics regarding the true nature of peoples health and their own profits are wholly questionable

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Michelle - posted on 06/02/2015

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You didn't want a debate, the first line of your OP said you wanted to hear from parents who hadn't vaccinated.
Like Little Miss said, a debate is providing evidence for your side of the debate.
Like Little Miss also said, it's not just a US site, I'm one of the Australians on here.

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/02/2015

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Oh, and this site is actually worldwide. For instance, I myself am from the US. The other people on this page are from Australia.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/02/2015

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Actually, you did not pose any debate whatsoever. You slung insults. BIG difference.

A debate would be you providing evidence, or discussing why you choose not to vaccinate. Others then respond. Instead, you tell people that they must be insecure and they don't know what they are talking about....or that they are angry. This is not how a debate works. You are more than welcome to debate this issue, but understand there are different levels of education on this topic that you may not agree with. Your OP was NOT indicative of a debate at ALL.

Maria - posted on 06/02/2015

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Thanks to all of you who have written responses to my query. My intention here was to create a forum for debate. So far I've learnt that some people would rather assume conflict than seek deeper insight through uncharged sharing. Without wishing to upset anyone (because in so doing progress is impossible) I am also aware that such a debate is possibly difficult to achieve because Circle of Moms is predominantly based in the US where the human right not to be vaccinated is even more critically under threat than in the UK. This is a pity. It is probably a contradiction in terms to wish to debate a subject to which most people have already committed - through their own will or, more likely and ironically, the will of carers. Sadly, imposed choice compromises individual freedom; and awareness of this creates disharmony. My son has the freedom to make his own choices based upon his own reasons, and I wholeheartedly support this. If he had been vaccinated there would be no question. Without questioning we commit without full awareness. I aspire to a world peopled by human beings blessed with the full potential of their bodies and minds. You may disagree with my opinion here, but please consider how you pen your reactions and remarks, as I wish everyone here my goodwill.

Michelle - posted on 06/02/2015

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If you don't like people telling you that it's his choice and maybe his decision isn't wrong then maybe don't post on an open forum where you are going to get differing opinions to yours.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/02/2015

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It is unfortunate that you don't actually answer the questions. No need to attempt to sling insults.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/02/2015

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Really huh? So much hostility from you. Is that how you respond when someone is trying to be encouraging and helpful? Lovely. I have a strong science based background, not fear mongering over vaccinations and what on-line anti-vax groups are telling you. Don't drink the cool aid!

Maria - posted on 06/01/2015

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And your background in education? Your shameful presumptiousness indicates you may feel weak in this capacity! 😕

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/01/2015

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Where do you stand about your eldest getting his vaccines? Do you feel betrayed? Do you feel he made the wrong choice? What is the issue? He is a grown man, who has an education with a strong science background. This gives him an accurate understanding about the bodies immune system, and how vaccinations truly act in the body, and how they prevent the spread of disease.

I highly recommend (if you can) take some courses to educate yourself and further understand your sons decision. Microbiology thoroughly explains your immune system, diseases and how they function inside of your cells and how your bodies immune system tries to defend against disease. It also explains in detail, how vaccinations work. The more you educate yourself, the stronger your platform will be. True education. Not searching on line.

Michelle - posted on 05/31/2015

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He is an adult and is allowed to make his own decisions. Obviously he doesn't agree with your reasons for not vaccinating and has chosen to be vaccinated rather than contracting preventable diseases that can he fatal in adults.
Just because you got them through childhood doesn't mean they won't get the diseases as adults and that can be worse than getting it as a child.

Ev - posted on 05/31/2015

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I had my kids vaccinated when they were kids up to teens because by law in all states if not most of them, they have to have it in order to go to school unless the states have clauses in the law that allows for reason of religious practices or other health issues that would be affected by the vaccines. Have you not heard of the out breaks of whooping cough, measles, and a few other things because kids are not vaccinated at all? It did not start with the kids that were. Also, my son had to go get the chicken pox booster his senior year of high school because there was the out break of chicken pox. He had a month to do it in or he would have had to stay home the 21 day period that it considered contagious while having it. And he was living at his dad's at the time. In that household, they do not vaccinate the other five kids that are there by religious practice. He demanded that he get it because he did not want to mess up his senior year. Because he was on the cusp of 18 years of age, they did not stop him and he got his last booster. But I do have to add that those kids are sick all the time, always going to the doctor for one thing or another, and some of this is based on not being vaccinated.

Jodi - posted on 05/31/2015

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LOL, no anger. Not sure where you are seeing that. Simply suggesting that you respect that he is now making a decision as an informed adult and you need to not take it so personally. But if you are seeing anger in my post, then maybe you need to take a few steps back from the issue entirely because it may be the same reason you are upset over your son's decision.

Jodi - posted on 05/30/2015

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He is entitled to his opinion on the matter. As a physics student, he has most likely looked at the science of it. That doesn't mean he disrespects your decision when he was younger, but that now, he would like you to respect his decision. By referring to it as a "reaction" and "repercussion" is like you are offended that he DARE decide to have himself vaccinated. This is no longer your decision to make and if you want me to be quite frank, your view about it being all about pharmaceutical company profits, I would suggest he possibly disagrees that you have truly done your research on the science. He is entitled to that opinion and you shouldn't take it personally.

And just for your information, you can't "prevent" many vaccine preventable diseases through healthy living. Sure, you may be able to minimise effects through healthy immune systems, but the science behind your reasoning that you can prevent them is, in fact, flawed.

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