Where can I find legal advise as to when Florida USA children are old enough to decided for themselves they want to live in a different country with their mother?

Caroline - posted on 08/05/2013 ( 4 moms have responded )

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I have 3 grandchildren who do not want to live with their American father in Florida. They want to be in Canada with their mother and the rest of their family. At what age can they make this type of legal decision on their own and what procedures have to be followed.

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♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 08/05/2013

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Best advice is for your daughter to find an attorney.

In the US a child (in MOST states) is allowed to choose the living arrangements after the age of 13-15, HOWEVER, when it involves international custody, there is probably a lot more stipulation.

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Caroline - posted on 08/06/2013

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Shawnn, I'm sure there are many happy marriages in Florida, but when it goes bad, you won't believe how many times I have heard from ladies (living in Florida all their lives) being tramped on by the Florida courts and bad husbands. I was there for over 2 years hearing stories you wouldn't believe. I'm afraid that I will stand by my feelings about any lady US or Cdn) living in Florida and married. Did you know that many men choose to live in Florida so that if/when a marriage breaks up, his butt is covered, totally?? That can not be said about most other states. Florida is "the good old boys state" and it seems most men know that. Our problem was that we didn't do our homework before letting our daughter go to her "dream" state. She now sees that it was a nightmare. Her husband is in contempt of court 5 times (charged by the attending judge) and not once has he been held accountable. He has not paid her what the court has ordered, he was late in support payments and at the end, he neglected to pay at all. Being a teacher in Florida, she along with many other teachers, lost her job. Ex now had her by the short hairs and forced her to return home to Canada without her children. She now lives with us, her parents. Because she owned a car, did not qualify for assistance from the government. Get rid of the car and walk miles to a food store to use your food stamps! How about a roof over her and her children's head?? No way! Everyone has their story, and my daughter's is not the only one!

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 08/05/2013

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Well, Caroline, that is an assumption that you are making based on your daughter's experience.

I must say that, if a woman doesn't make the correct choice of partners, then she will endure the treatment that your daughter did, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE in Florida, or the US for that matter, is the same.

But thank you for the lump generalization...I'm certain that everyone else really enjoys being lumped into that category.

And, I also must say that custody is situation specific. If there was something that indicated that the children would benefit from remaining in the US with their father, rather than being allowed to relocate to Canada with their mother, then that's the way a judge is going to decide.

If you and your daughter go into this thinking that "We're right, and they're wrong because they come from FLORIDA"...you're not going to get very far with a US Judge...

Caroline - posted on 08/05/2013

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Thank you Shawnn Lively. I have to agree with you, especially when it comes to Florida. Canadian ladies, never, ever, move to Florida, or married a US citizen who lives or talks about living in Florida. Women and children are treat like 3rd class citizens there.

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