Y Do U Rite Like Dis?

Melissa - posted on 02/16/2010 ( 82 moms have responded )

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I am not a perfect speller and grammar doesn't come naturally to me. Although, I give it my best by spelling words out, not using endless acronyms and I try to be a good example for my kids. There is ample space to write what you need to say... so why are so many people shortening words? Ex. 'tho' for though, 'y' for why, 'cuz' for because...

I understand that if you pay for a text message you are only allowed 160 characters, but this isn't a text.



I have a really hard time reading and understanding posts that aren't spelled out, or that have every word except 'i' capitalized.



I know there are young mothers, but why type like a teenager texts? I hope kids aren't reading this stuff, because they would get spelling confusion.



It is just something on my mind...

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Renae - posted on 02/20/2010

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The only acronyms I know are OMG and LOL. Anything else is lost on me. I just thought it was a generation Y thing. Oh, I do use "def" for "definately", but only out of pure laziness when I can not be bothered to type the whole word.



I find shortened, internet/text, "slang" extremely difficult to read, if you make me have to work too hard to read something I wont bothering reading it!



Oh and paragraphs breaks are our friends people, same goes for periods; one ginormous long sentence is very difficult to read.



Lastly, I have no idea what Sharon's (first post) last sentence says! LOL

Pamela - posted on 02/17/2010

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As an ESL (English as a Second Language ) Teacher for the past 8 years I find it quite interesting that in returning to American schools after a 5 year absence, I find the spelling QUITE LACKING in the current classroom setting. Not a lot of time is given in many classes and, unlike when I have my own classrooms, I leave the spelling lists on the board for 5 days in order to reinforce through repetition.

Don't get discouraged by what happens around you, just make sure you check up on your own children's spelling lessons each week and you might even find it fun to have a "spelling bee" with your own children with appropriate awards (a night out; pizza; a movie; whatever special "reward" you might choose)!

Carolyn - posted on 02/17/2010

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We are a lazy, informal society. Previous generations would not have dreamt of doing some of the things we do, jeans to church, allowing children to call adults by their first names, as opposed to Mr or Mrs so-and-so. This disintegration has carried over to our communication. Where our grandmothers would have sent a well thought out, beautifully handwritten note, we shoot off a text that is full of short hand and cutesy emoticons that are best forgotten about after 7th grade. We are lazy and this means of communication has gained mass acceptance, which unfortunately means that it is here to stay.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2010

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I must confess...I was going to post something via blackberry the other day...and the text language just came out naturally. When I saw what I had done though...I deleted and waited till I got home. ;P

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Stifler's - posted on 01/27/2011

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I hate caps lock warriors too. Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.

Tyrae - posted on 01/27/2011

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Oh and another thing that bothers me is people actually saying "lol" or "omg" or even "rofl". Why can't they just laugh or say "oh my god". What is this world coming to?

Tyrae - posted on 01/26/2011

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Thank you so much! I was actually just telling my fiance about this yesterday and getting so angry over it. What annoys me the most is when people spell in capitals the whole time, not just the beginning of the word (although that is quite annoying also).

I really wish people would take the time of day to actually care about what they are typing out because they just look like idiots when they don't type properly.

Stifler's - posted on 01/26/2011

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Argh it frustrates me too. It honestly makes me think the person is dumb.

Becky - posted on 01/26/2011

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@Pamela "As an ESL (English as a Second Language ) Teacher for the past 8 years I find it quite interesting that in returning to American schools after a 5 year absence, I find the spelling QUITE LACKING in the current classroom setting. Not a lot of time is given in many classes and, unlike when I have my own classrooms, I leave the spelling lists on the board for 5 days in order to reinforce through repetition. "
Pamela, I think what makes the difference there, is that our children are also not reading at the levels that we were when I was in school, 20 years ago. My eldest son is a reader, like myself, and he has no issue with knowing how to either spell a word, or how to use it in context. The reason for that, I firmly believe, is that he IS a reader. I think the areas that fire in our brain are also the same areas that provide the extra reinforcement we needed to remember spelling, etc. My middle son, who is less than inclined to read beyond my enforced reading time, is less able to spell, less able to use words in context, and less likely to know how to define it. Ironically, though, my four year old, who is just starting to read, is really thriving at it, and is teaching HIMSELF how to read, simply by sounding things out phonetically. He also is able to pick a word (usually one that is rather difficult) out of a sentence when he hears the adults or his brothers talking, and he will later use that word in his own sentence of his creation. The thing that gets me is that he rarely misuses them. So, maybe the genetics play a role. No matter what though, without reading, our children are losing far more than most people realize at this point, considering the 'vacation' that a book can provide. It broadens the mind more than any video game ever has, and yet, so many kids will never know it. Sad, but likely true. IMHO... (okay okay ya'll know i HAD to go there right?:)

Melanie - posted on 02/20/2010

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totally agree. When i text i use shortened words as you said only 160 characters but on here i prefer to right reasonably well. Ok i do tend to forget to capitalise I but that's not too bad. It's generation now of texting and shortening things. Even i struggle with some shortened words xx

Danielle - posted on 02/20/2010

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Imagine how hard spell check must be working for all the kids and adults that use the "quick" version of spelling?
Can someone make a Facebook fan club? Maybe we could all become members - "Learn to spell" club ;-)
p.s smiles are ok though...aren't they?

Kylee - posted on 02/18/2010

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Well I think it's the future and it's not just texting or typing now its a whole language! My friends dad who is fifty+ years old walks around spouting omg and lmao like he's speaking Spanish or something he's actually proud of himself...Hopefully it's just a fad but I'm guessing not. You have to remember that grammar like anything else won't always be important just like finishing schools or etiquette classes are no longer a staple of society.

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I agree - I hate it! It's taking over here in Australia, too. Grammatical mistakes and spelling errors are one thing, but this deliberate "text speak" (or whatever they call it) is, to me, just lazy and unintelligible. I can't understand it.

Alyssa - posted on 02/17/2010

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I know when my oldest son comes to me with questions regarding his homework, my first response is to look it up! I have some idea as to where this whole lingo language has stemmed from but the only solution as parents to make sure to keep on top of our children, even though at times it seems frustrating or time consuming. Our "schedules" may play some part but over all that is what we signed up for- some of us not may have signed but have been given the blessing of being mothers to do so. Good luck!

Laura - posted on 02/17/2010

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What gets me is that a lot of times it is not any less letters, it is just Kr3atuv spelling. On every phone I've ever texted on, it is harder to type combined letters and numbers than just letters or numbers, so I don't understand why people do that.

I have had people my age text me stuff spelled like that. These are educated, professional people.

When my kids started texting me stuff like that, it annoyed me, but I looked passed it to kids being kids, but when I found a letter my step-daughter had written in text speak it shocked me. But I know that my kids do know how to speak and write correctly.

Traci - posted on 02/17/2010

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We actually DON'T have a typing class in our high schools anymore here in Terre Haute. Which sucks. Because its still required at a college level. The shorthand "im language" has actually gotten so far that at 20, I'm lost on some of the things people type. I do admit that I text constantly. I actually can't afford to put minutes on my prepaid phone and still pay all my bills because they have cut my hours so much at work. I pay $20 a month for unlimited texting instead. It's a lot better than the $60 a month that the phone companies around here charge. But I digress. Because I text so much, I am almost always in text mode. I think in text. So it's hard for me to remember to spell things out. But when I actually write, it's no problem at all... wierd, huh? LOL

But the text in the forums doesn't get on my mind as much as the slang. I agree that it's not that bad to listen to. I actually like the way that people say some of the words. But its very hard to read.

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I detest most of the shorthand too. I think it is "dumbing down" our young people (I'm 41--not exactly young). I have to stop and think what "2day" means or even look up some of the shorthand because I don't have a clue. People need to grow up and write real words.



Of course, on some boards it does get taxing to repeatedly write out some things (e.g., TTC) or discretion requires "synonyms" (e.g. BD or DTD). I use a few, but I do try to write real words.

Becky - posted on 02/17/2010

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I could not agree more. There is a reason that newspapers in our country are written at an 8th grade reading level. It's because we are expecting less and less from our children, to include common manners, common sense, and what SHOULD be common self respect, as well as respect for others.

Firebird - posted on 02/17/2010

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Okay... I love you people! I'll use the occasional shortcut like omg, wtf, lol, rofl...but other than those, I can't stand text talk! I don't take any of it seriously, when I chat with people who use it I'll tell them flat out 'if you don't write in english I will not chat with you, because you're making yourself look really stupid.' I can't stand bad spelling and grammar!

Occasional typos and honest spelling mistakes are things I can tolerate, but please, at least make an effort to spell something properly! I ALSO HATE THIS for an entire post. To use caps lock to emphasize on ONE word now and then, fine, but not the whole damn post!

Becky - posted on 02/17/2010

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I have no argument with you. It's a HUGE pet peeve of mine that the kids are learning to use this instead of proper english. It's been banned in my family, as in my kids are aware, that if they send me a text message that is not written in standard english, they will lose their phone.
It's a matter of intelligence to me, because I hate when they look stupid, and frankly, who doesn't look stupid when they drop all the vowels?

Ellen - posted on 02/17/2010

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I agree we should try to use the correct spelling and grammar whenever we are responding or posting to conversation threads. it prevents confusion and who wants to look like they are illiterate!! not me.

Kerri - posted on 02/17/2010

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That is sooo annoying. I'm not a perfect speller or great at grammer either. But I would rather someone look at my response and think that I have some kind of intelligence and not make myself look like a complete moron on purpose!!!

Theresa - posted on 02/17/2010

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I don't like it either. I think a lot of people do it to save time. Like you said it's basically texting. I think a lot of the younger People, teens especially, almost have no idea how to type other than text. They speak it too. It drives me nuts. I'm usually a pretty good speller, and I'm pretty good at grammar too (my dad was an educator, so it was drilled into me from birth). I catch a lot of peoples errors, but it doesn't bother me as long as they're trying and getting their point across. You can't blame someone for their lack of eduaction, or possible learning issues. You can blamae someone for their laziness though. That's what text type and speak is to me. Lazy. Like you said it's understandable when you're paying for it, but otherwise use words. Us "old" peopl (I'm a whole 35) don't undertand half of the text talk. :)

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2010

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I think the problem is that texting is so popular that people are just used to typing words like that. I don't like it either. Sometimes I don't understand what the person is saying either. I text and I still spell out the words.

Amanda - posted on 02/17/2010

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Oh thank you for posting this!!!! I just "friended" an ex boyfriend on FB and he types just like he speaks. It's horrible! It's one thing to grow up in an area that would cause you to speak a certain way, but to type that way....C'mon!!! It's so annoying and makes you look/sound ignorant. Good is not spelled gud, thanks doesn't have an x in it, and numbers don't have to represent a word ,like 4 =for. Not to mention half of what is typed doesn't even come close to a proper sentence. I am not perfect and we all make mistakes, but texting and typing are two different things!

Isobel - posted on 02/17/2010

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Where I live the TTC is the subway system (I was sooooo confused when I joined COM) ;P



(everybody here is TTC- trying to conceive)

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lol: Laugh out loud, how many of us use these three letters, when expressing ourselves. I remember a time when I didn't even know what it meant. Lot's of love, to me would be more appropiate.

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Freedom of speech and writing is exactly what it says. I know that there is a lot of people who write short messages. I have shortened a message before. I know when to write in a manner that everyone will understand. I have articles online that have been published. They will not approve an article, until the editorial team has looked it over. It is up to each individual to write in the manner that they choose. It does not make it right or wrong. I am very creative and I often write in a creative way for example:I C U R Looking 4 cre-8- tive myndz. Eye wood B pleezed 2 meat ewe. Translation:I see you are looking for creative minds, I would be pleased to meet you. I think that it should have it's proper place, but I don't think that anyone should be scrutinized, for freedom of speech.

Molly - posted on 02/17/2010

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Exactly what I've been thinking! The non-use and misuse of punctuation especially gets to me as I was an English teacher and am somewhat of a stickler for correct grammar. It's a fairly simple thing to do, spelling things correctly and using punctuation; if you're going to put something out there for a large audience to see, and expect to be taken somewhat seriously, why not take that little extra time and make sure you've put your best foot forward?

Thanks for posting what a lot of us seem to be thinking!

Lacey - posted on 02/17/2010

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so honestly i have never written like that at all not even via text..i can't stand it..it is uncalled for and just makes the person seem like they have no education at all..its like alot of you have said my spelling may not be perfect nor my grammar but atleast i try..i am from the south and we have the accent some worse then others but we say y'all and ain't..but when i hear someone speak like that it makes me want to grab them slap them a few times and tell them to go the h*ll back to school..i honestly have to read the post like 3 times before i understand what they are saying and even then i have to add words to make it make sense..lol..its really annoying and i wish they would stop..it should be against the law...lmao

Andrea - posted on 02/17/2010

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Typing in "txt" language doesn't even belong in a text message if you get right down to it. It's just plain lazy. Yes, I text message all the time and I RARELY ever use "txt" spelling. It's a matter of habit...ANNOYING habit. Just like referring to yourself in the third person or saying you "heart" something. Hello? And how old are you pretending to be today? If any school system is legitimately allowing this type of thing it is and indicator of the complete breakdown of that system.

Jessica - posted on 02/17/2010

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I can't understand the text language, I can't read either!! I can't text without writing the whole word out. I don't understand the word shortening. My sister-in-law will text me and every other word it shortened. I have to ask her what she is saying! LOL

Krista - posted on 02/17/2010

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Clara, it's not an either/or proposition. There are plenty of people out there who are extremely well-versed in compassion, love and balance, but still manage to write a coherent paragraph.

Clara - posted on 02/17/2010

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It is 2010, by the time our little ones go to schools, they will be using computers.

I rather worry about teaching my child compassion, love and balance, that is a universal language !

Andrea - posted on 02/16/2010

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.... and to top it all off I have heard that the kids (young adults) in New Zealand are now allowed to write their "English" exams for NCEA (15-16yrs) in text lingo. What is happening to our school, spelling and pronounceation morals?......

Jocelyn - posted on 02/16/2010

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God those types of posts just annoy the hell out of me!!! I don't even use "text speak" when I'm texting lol. I'm the loser that actually spells out the entire word "before vs b4". I'm a young mom (19 when I had my first, and I'm only 22 now) and I just want to smack some of these "women" because they are the ones that are stereotyping all of the other young moms as uneducated idiots. I also hate hate hate TYPING IN ALL CAPS (although I have a good friend that actually writes in all caps, she's one of those weird left handed people lmao. but at least the actual letters that should be capitalized are bigger than the others). The only think that I really do is type "tho" or "thru", everything else gets spelled out in entirely.

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I don't read the following types of posts:
- every letter of every word is capitalized
- the first letter of every word is capitalized
- there are no periods, commas, etc. to break up the mass of text
- the entire post is "text speak"

Each of those requires just too much work to decipher. Oh, and if you write a huge post (thinking 10-20+ lines long) without any line breaks... I don't read those either. They all cause eye strain.

Oh well... It sounds like a lot of people don't get responded to because of how they post.

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i'm constantly correcting other's grammar in my head, yet i do use shortcuts such as "tho" and "cuz" i actually find that i speak the word "cuz" instead of "because" at times. imo these are two acceptable forms, what about "ppl" i do that a lot too.. i suppose it could be quantity, obsessive use or obnoxious use of?

Krista - posted on 02/16/2010

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I've Also Seen People Who Capitalize Every Letter In Their Sentence, And Can't Understand Why.

They're actually making MORE work for themselves by doing that.

Abbie - posted on 02/16/2010

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I agree with this also & WHEN PEOPLE ONLY USE CAPS!!!! That is yelling in computer lingo people, don't do it.

Jamie - posted on 02/16/2010

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I always wondered about it too. It drives my insane and I have a really hard time understanding some of it, so I just ignore their responses. I feel that its laziness.

Sharon - posted on 02/16/2010

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Krista E. your first line was as funny as all hell.



As of this morning I FORCED myself to use some text speak. So I could text more quickly. b instead of be, 4 instead of for.



I use the common acronyms. WTF, LOL, ROTLMFAO, etc. I wanted to fall over and die when I heard two of my co-workers chatting "O-M-G 'n then she..." holy crap did she really say O-M-G??? not Oh My God/Gosh. But the letters "O-M-G"???? Oh brother.

Jessie - posted on 02/16/2010

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I HATE it when people type like that and find it amusing when someone says that they would answer them if they could understand them. Sometimes they actually make no sense at all. Anway, love this thread!

Katherine - posted on 02/16/2010

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I don't know how I missed this thread!

1. It's annoying
2. can't understand it
3. I just want to delete the conversation because I have no idea what the heck they're trying to say

Jodi - posted on 02/16/2010

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we should be writing like adults, not 12 year-olds...


Even my 12 year old doesn't write like that. He knows better.

Kristen - posted on 02/16/2010

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I'm so glad that this has been pointed out! It annoys the hell out of me! We're all adults on here so we should be writing like adults, not 12 year-olds...Although if my children wrote "Lyke Dat" I'd kick their bums!!! We need to set examples for our children!

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This one made me smile- I have that problem too- I have to ask my children what alot of the abbreviations mean because I cant work it out! I just thought I was old and uncool- so you ladies have all made me feel MUCH better ;)

Melissa - posted on 02/16/2010

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I'm glad to know I am not the only one, but as Jodi pointed out, we haven't heard from anyone that does type textese.

Krista - posted on 02/16/2010

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im in ur COM, criticizing ur grammar....

Heh -- no seriously, I don't get wound up if there's a typo here and there, or if people take the odd shortcut. However, some people use so much textspeak that their post is virtually illegible.

Rule of thumb, people: if your grandmother wouldn't understand a damn word of what you just wrote, then don't post it until you replace some of the textspeak with proper English.

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