Are u letting ur child have the swine flu jab?

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Michelle - posted on 01/06/2010

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yup....sure am...because it is NOT a new vaccine...and too many kids have DIED and not just had MILD symptoms from it....sorry wouldn't want to live myself if my child died getting the H1N1 when there was something that could have been done to prevent it.







Yes, it's not a new vaccine.  It's very similar to the swine flu vaccine from the 70s.








"The episode began in February 1976, when an Army recruit at Ft. Dix, N.J., fell ill and died from a swine flu virus thought to be similar to the 1918 strain. Several other soldiers at the base also became ill. Shortly thereafter, Wenzel and his colleagues reported two cases of the flu strain in Virginia.








“That raised the concern that the original cluster at Ft. Dix had spread beyond New Jersey,” said Wenzel, former president of the International Society for Infectious Diseases.








At the CDC, Sencer solicited the opinions of infectious disease specialists nationwide and, in March, called on President Ford and Congress to begin a mass inoculation. The $137-million program began in early October, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal








...More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine and 25 died. No one completely understands what causes Guillain-Barre in certain people, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people who developed the condition or their families."








Not saying you should or shouldn't.  Just saying that research is coming out that flu shots, particularly H1N1, are not as safe (or necessary) as the original panic-driven media may have led us to believe.









WOW...you are seriously misinformed.  When I said it is not a new vaccine what I meant is that the H1N1 is manufactured EXACTLY the same as the seasonal flu shot.  THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE STRAND OF FLU IN THE SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It is in NO WAY similar to the one from the 70's.  Seriously technology has evolved leaps and bounds from the 70's and you think it is the same get a grip.  And unless you got the information from the CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL or WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.  I won't tell you where you can take it.  Those are the only places that I will get information from. 





I mean, OK.  If you choose to ONLY get information from two sources, both of which are run by the government/s that started this entire panic, that's your choice.



But there ARE other sources of information out there. 



And, BTW, there has been a RECALL on the vaccine.  But it's OK - it's still SAFE, just, ya know, ineffective.



From the awesome cdc website:  http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/s...



http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/s...



I read the "official" stuff, and I take it with the same grain of salt with which I read the non-government information.



Vaccines have been made in a manner very similar to the way they've been made for a long time.  Live viruses are injected into eggs, incubated for a time, and then killed or greatly weakened and mixed with various chemicals to create the final vaccine.  So, in fact, this "new" vaccine is in many ways similar to the 1976 vaccine, and every vaccine they've created before that one, and since that one.



From WebMD (not sure if that meets your standards for information or not, as it wasn't listed as your TWO sources of information)



"The 1976 swine flu vaccine wasn't safe. Why should I trust this one?



The 1976 swine flu vaccine was linked to safety issues. Neal Halsey, MD, director of the Institute for Vaccine Safety at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, was at the CDC in those days.



"We did identify an increased risk of GBS [Guillain-Barre syndrome] in the six weeks following immunization," Halsey tells WebMD. "What is not known at this time is exactly why that vaccine was associated with that increased risk.""



The fact is, they still don't KNOW what caused the 1976 increased GBS reaction.  So they can't POSSIBLY know whether that risk still exists.



Countries all over the world have excess vaccines, because they ordered enough for entire populations, and the average rate seems to be WELL below that, according to this newspaper:  http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Exces...



And yet, the incidences of H1N1 have not gone through the roof, even with lower-than-expeced vaccination rates.



All I was saying is that everyone needs to weigh the ACTUAL risks and ACTUAL benefits.  Read the CDC stuff, but hey, can we maybe consider that the government isn't completely altruistic when it comes to what's "best" for us?  Maybe consider another source with different motivations, just for a little balance?



My response to her inquiry was non-confrontational.  YOUR response was, frankly, mean. Please, where exactly should I take my information?  Hmmm?  How many exclamation points is too many, anyway?????????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Missy - posted on 01/04/2010

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No. This vaccine was made with such a "rush" that more than likely mistakes "could have" been made. Remember the people making the vaccine are human and one batch of the vaccines has already been recalled. How do you recall a vaccine that you have already had your child injected with? If you research the regular flu vs the swine flu more people have contracted the regular flu and died from the regular flu than the swine flu.

Kacy - posted on 01/04/2010

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Fewer people have died this flu season than they did the year before. So what's the panic?
Our neighbor's kids got it, were sick a couple days, and thats it.
We take normal precautions, practice good hygene, breastfeed, and don't do daycare.
We are very low risk, and we have no intention of getting flu shots of any kind.

Shaina - posted on 01/04/2010

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My whole family is high risk. My husband is a diabetic. My 3 year old has asthma. I have a 2 year old and an almost 1 year old. I'm pregnant right now. My mother is a pediatric nurse whose unit has been turned into the respiratory unit handling all the confirmed and suspected swine flu cases.

None of us is getting the swine flu or standard flu vaccine.

Micah - posted on 01/04/2010

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NO i am not!! it hasnt even been tested! who knows what the long term effects are! swine flu isnt even that bad it was just hyped up by the media!

Nancy - posted on 01/04/2010

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Yes, my son got it at 10 months old. He had no symptoms afterwards. We decided to get it because we were going to have a long trip during the holidays and we didn't want to worry about him being at risk. I know everyone has a very strong opinion about it, but it is your decision.

Danielle - posted on 01/04/2010

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Yes, he already had the H1N1 shot, so did I, so did his father. All's well in the world.

Melanie - posted on 01/04/2010

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i had to get my kids vaccinated. On has asthma and the other if he caught swine flu it owuld kill him so didn't really have a choice. I think if your kids are high risk then get it otherwise don't see the harm in not having it. If my kids weren't as sick as they are i would not have given them it. But at the same time it's a hard choice because Tamiflu (which is given for swine flu) has some nasty side effects. Each to their own i don't think people should be criticised for not getting it done. Both my kids were fine afterwards x

Julia - posted on 01/04/2010

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Quoting Michelle:



Quoting Julia:

yup....sure am...because it is NOT a new vaccine...and too many kids have DIED and not just had MILD symptoms from it....sorry wouldn't want to live myself if my child died getting the H1N1 when there was something that could have been done to prevent it.





Yes, it's not a new vaccine.  It's very similar to the swine flu vaccine from the 70s.






"The episode began in February 1976, when an Army recruit at Ft. Dix, N.J., fell ill and died from a swine flu virus thought to be similar to the 1918 strain. Several other soldiers at the base also became ill. Shortly thereafter, Wenzel and his colleagues reported two cases of the flu strain in Virginia.






“That raised the concern that the original cluster at Ft. Dix had spread beyond New Jersey,” said Wenzel, former president of the International Society for Infectious Diseases.






At the CDC, Sencer solicited the opinions of infectious disease specialists nationwide and, in March, called on President Ford and Congress to begin a mass inoculation. The $137-million program began in early October, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal






...More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine and 25 died. No one completely understands what causes Guillain-Barre in certain people, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people who developed the condition or their families."






Not saying you should or shouldn't.  Just saying that research is coming out that flu shots, particularly H1N1, are not as safe (or necessary) as the original panic-driven media may have led us to believe.





WOW...you are seriously misinformed.  When I said it is not a new vaccine what I meant is that the H1N1 is manufactured EXACTLY the same as the seasonal flu shot.  THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE STRAND OF FLU IN THE SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It is in NO WAY similar to the one from the 70's.  Seriously technology has evolved leaps and bounds from the 70's and you think it is the same get a grip.  And unless you got the information from the CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL or WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.  I won't tell you where you can take it.  Those are the only places that I will get information from. 

Michelle - posted on 01/04/2010

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yup....sure am...because it is NOT a new vaccine...and too many kids have DIED and not just had MILD symptoms from it....sorry wouldn't want to live myself if my child died getting the H1N1 when there was something that could have been done to prevent it.


Yes, it's not a new vaccine.  It's very similar to the swine flu vaccine from the 70s.



"The episode began in February 1976, when an Army recruit at Ft. Dix, N.J., fell ill and died from a swine flu virus thought to be similar to the 1918 strain. Several other soldiers at the base also became ill. Shortly thereafter, Wenzel and his colleagues reported two cases of the flu strain in Virginia.



“That raised the concern that the original cluster at Ft. Dix had spread beyond New Jersey,” said Wenzel, former president of the International Society for Infectious Diseases.



At the CDC, Sencer solicited the opinions of infectious disease specialists nationwide and, in March, called on President Ford and Congress to begin a mass inoculation. The $137-million program began in early October, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal



...More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine and 25 died. No one completely understands what causes Guillain-Barre in certain people, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people who developed the condition or their families."



Not saying you should or shouldn't.  Just saying that research is coming out that flu shots, particularly H1N1, are not as safe (or necessary) as the original panic-driven media may have led us to believe.

Kimberly - posted on 01/04/2010

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My daughter is also high risk and she got the swine flu shot and the regular flu shot and I think it helps. We had a kid in our house that stayed the night and we didnt know he was getting sick, two days later he was diagnosed with the swine flu and my daughter never got it and the two of them couldnt be torn apart when they were together. So I would recomend it. Also at one point in my daughters class there was ten kids out with diffferent kinds of the flu and she never got it she was one of the only ones that stayed in school.

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both my girls have had it and are fine-i had it as did my husband...we did it to protect our 16 week old. i still have a nice lump at the site but i had a bit of an allergic reponse to it-i'm allergic to alot of things though

Julia - posted on 01/04/2010

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yup....sure am...because it is NOT a new vaccine...and too many kids have DIED and not just had MILD symptoms from it....sorry wouldn't want to live myself if my child died getting the H1N1 when there was something that could have been done to prevent it.

Firebird - posted on 01/04/2010

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Neither my daughter or myself has gotten or will get the H1N1 "vaccine". I'd rather chance the flu itself as most of the people who have gotten it really only had mild symptoms. Neither one of us are at high risk, so I just don't see it as necessary. We don't get seasonal flu shots either.

Elizabeth - posted on 01/04/2010

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I too kept flip flopping on the decision, whether it would be for the best or not. I put it off, and now I keep hearing on the news that the number of swine flu cases is decreasing significantly. I'm glad I didn't have her vaccinated. I'm also one of those "never had a flu shot, and never had the flu" people. My dad has gotten the flu shot exactly once in his life. That was the only year he got the flu. It makes you wonder ...

Erin - posted on 01/04/2010

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I was on the fence about the vaccine and ended up having my little guy done when we decided to travel over Christmas.. I am sure glad that we did. We came into contact with more sickness than we've been exposed to in months over the holiday season. He did end up with a bug, but knowing how sick everyone else became, he stayed fairly healthy. (Much less sick than his dad and I). We also had no side effects from the jab. What ever choice you make will be the right one for you and your family as long as it is done in an educated manner. Good luck.

Emily - posted on 01/04/2010

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You know Amy, we were having a very hard time making that decision until our doctor told us that the peak of the swine flu season was over. I don't know where you live and what kind of impact that has on you but we decided not to for our little one. I wish you the best of luck in making your decision!

Andrea - posted on 01/04/2010

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My son got it when he was 7 months old. I felt he was at a greater risk of catching the swine flu than having complications from the vaccine. It was the best decision for us.

Jodie - posted on 01/04/2010

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hey yeah i let my 3 year old son have it and im glad i did because i know he is covered if he is near anyone that has got swine flu that he will not catch it, also im getting my daughter done when she turns 6 months to she only 5 months just now so she cant ave it. i got my first dse last week and we have both been fine. so if your kyds are high risk i would advise you to get it done, but the choice is yours

Victoria - posted on 01/04/2010

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I let my daugher have it, in fact I didn't even think about her not having it to be honest cos I'd much rather she didn't catch swine flu than just have another jab!!!

Melissa - posted on 01/04/2010

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i feel that it did help cause my son didnt catch it from his sister and they didnt get it as bad they were only sick for about 10 hours but at the same time my son has febral siezures since he was 4 he is now 11 and when he got the shot it caused him to run a very high fever and have febral seziures again but it really did help!

Amy - posted on 01/04/2010

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I dont want to but I feel that if I dont and my child gets it then I will kick myself but I dont want my child to be a guniea pig at the same time

Melissa - posted on 01/04/2010

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I did but wish i wouldnt have my 2 girls were fine afterwards but my son ran 103.4 temp for 3 days and it caused him to have febral seziures and alot of pain in his musles and joints! Also my 2 girls got the flu 3 months after they got the shot so it really didnt help!

Amber - posted on 01/04/2010

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I am not. I dont even do the seasonal flu shot and I have never gotten the flu. I know so many people who get it then still get the flu.

Lyssa - posted on 01/04/2010

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no i'm not, first of all the childrens one has been recalled and i dont think they know enough about it and they rushed the vaccine. i dont trust it

Shandee - posted on 01/04/2010

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I did only because he is at high risk. Having asthma and his immune system being so low. I reccomend if your child is at high risk if not don't worry about it...

Samantha - posted on 01/04/2010

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im in the same position as u dont no what to do about it there r so many different oppinions on the matter

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