Bad circumcision...

Kelly - posted on 06/16/2009 ( 37 moms have responded )

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We had our son circumcised at birth and from the moment it was done we could tell not enough was taken off. My O.B. came highly recommended for prenatal and delivery, just not circumcision. We told our pediatrician, who no longer performs circumcision, we were uncomfortable with our O.B. doing it and we told the nurses of our concerns as well. The O.B. on call refused to do it, not to step on anyones toes, and our pediatrician/nurses talked to us and assured us that our O.B. would do a fine job, that they had lots of experiance with her and that every situation is different. So we agreed. Well that was a horrible decision. My son is now 10 months and the skin is beginning to grow back and is causing small sores when we pull the skin back. His pediatrician said to put neosporin on them and at 12 months is going to be referred to a urologist for re-circumcision. I feel absolutly horrible and don't want to subject my baby to that sort of trauma. Has anybody had an experiance like this? What are your recommendations?

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Jennifer - posted on 07/23/2009

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Im so glad to know that someone else is experiencing this. I thought I was the only 1... my sons circumcision healed incorrectly. it healed back around EXCEPT for 1 tiny area which is like a whole. His 1st doc sent us to a urologist only to be told to wait 6 more months to see how it looked and that they were to call us to schedule and appntmnt., 7-8mo later it has not changed and we have not received a call, so we are taking him into a new ped this week... Im so scared for him :(

Joelle - posted on 06/18/2009

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I have an uncircumcised boy and that information about pulling back the foreskin is totally false. Our doctor told us (according to the AAP like previous post says) to leave it alone until it was not adhered anymore. In fact, he informed us that most of the infections and issues that caused boys to be circumcised later were due to parents pulling the foreskin back and ripping it from the penis. Then, like any other tear, it would start to heal and they would pull it back again and tear it all over again. I know most here have circumcised boys and this point is moot but I couldn't just let that false information stand. My son is 5 1/2 and we've had no issues.

Bettina - posted on 06/18/2009

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I would like to reply to the "God put the skin there for a reason" advice - He did, but He also commanded His people in the Old Testament to have it removed to set them apart as HIS people; we now know that it is healthier for males to have this done. It is really neat to see that God's health related laws are better for us (but NOT required for salvation.) Anyway, I can also understand your not wanting to traumatize your son - I hope the other posts help you!!

Fran - posted on 06/17/2009

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i know many people who have had to redo their sons circumcision. their boys sailed through the procedure wonderfully. i know this is a very touchy subject out there. so you have to do what you feel is best. many of my friends had it done by an ob and the ob didn't do a great job. it turned out in a few of them the urethra also had to be fixed which they would not have known if they didn't have to redo the circumcision. i was lucky because i am jewish and my mohel did a great job on both my sons. also try to use plain bacitracin. neosporin sometimes burn the area more. good luck with whatever you decide.

Michelle - posted on 03/04/2011

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all three of our boys had it done before leaving the hospital. we never had any issues. but we'll be praying for you and your family.

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Amanda - posted on 06/23/2009

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My son's went well....my nephew born 2 1/2 months before my son did was not circumcised correctly. 8 months pregnant myself, I went to see my new nephew. When my sister-in-law changed him in front of me I asked "You didn't have him circumcised?" She said they did. Long story short at 3 years old they had him re-circumcised without complication. He is now almost 12 and doing just fine! :)

Lara - posted on 06/18/2009

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I have a son who is uncircumcised and was told when my son was 3 and half he may have to be circumcised at 5yrs. As time went on his foreskin was very narrow at the end and I became concerned that he couldn't pull it back. I went and got some very good advice from 2 different doctors that specialised in this area and they both told me not to pull the foreskin back because it was still "sticky" and would keep infections out which my son has had no problems with. My son is nearly 9 yrs now and about a year and half ago at the final appt with a specialist he prescribed my son with a cortisone cream to loosen the skin. I did this for my son and then showed him how to do it himself. The advice I got from the doctor was him to play with his penis in the bath so that the penis will start to stretch the skin. Combined with the cream he now cleans & pulls his foreskin back himself. I definitely think if you are going to get it re-operated on the sooner the better for the poor little guy.

Dee - posted on 06/18/2009

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Both my sons were circumcised and both (different doctors) each were left with too much foreskin (must be more common than we think). We had problems with it reattaching and causing issues. On my oldest, a doctor pulled it back and it caused enough trauma my son still doesn't let anyone touch it at age 4. We were told to keep it clean and use Vaseline until it healed.

MHO - go to the urologist of your choice (check him/her out to make sure they are qualified and have no issues - Google is great for this) and decide with them what you feel comfortable with doing. Nothing beats Mom intuition!

As a side note, when my youngest had a biopsy we were told not to use Neosporin on a baby to use bacitracin (sp?). Guess each doctor has their own opinions; you just have to find one that aligns with yours!

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Quoting Jenifer:



Quoting Vanessa:

To the mother that has never pulled the skin back on an uncircumcised male child. These boys can develope adhesions as well as circumcised boys. I am a nurse. I used to work E.R. and we had a little boy come in one night whose parents had never retracted his uncirc foreskin and the adhesions had gotten so bad the urethra was consrticted and he could barely pee thru the end. Per urologists instructions... they should be retracted at bath time at least once a day for cleanliness. As he gets older he needs to be taught to retract the foreskin and clean himself. If not these young boys and men are at higher risks for bad urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and adhesions. You've been blessed so far to have no issues. For the mom with the poorly done circ. I've helped take care of 18-24 mo. olds in recovery from re-done circs and they do well. Use ointment on the sores and follow your urologists recommendations. Every child and every parent is different. Good luck and God bless.





According to the AAP, this is not true. The foreskin on an uncircumcised boy does not need to be pulled back for cleaning unless the foreskin is no longer adhered to the head of the penis. If a boy is uncircumcised, the adhesion are the natural state. You can find the AAP statement here:






http://www.aap.org/publiced/br_uncircumc...





I asked my Plunket nurse wether I should be pulling my sons foreskin back and she recommended me not to.



To Kelly, I will keep my personal views out of this but never let anone talk you into something that you don't feel comfortable with. I wish you all the best.

Victoria - posted on 06/18/2009

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Hi Kelly; I have no suggestions for your little guy right now, but I can tell you that I have 3 boys who are now 20, 18, and 16. We had our first son circumcised because we wanted him to be like "dad". The experience was aweful and I refused to put my other two babies through the same thing. The boys are all fine, there is no emotional baggage from "being different". The hardest thing we had to learn was how and when to start cleaning properly with a foreskin seeing as dad had no idea how that was done. All the best with your little one!

Christy - posted on 06/17/2009

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Just an FYI, we had our son circumcised at 8 months old, weighing only 12 pounds by a pediatric urologist, so I don't think you have to wait. I wouldn't do it again to a baby so old. I had no idea how different it is as they age past 2 months. We have a bio boy as well that was done at birth without any problems. The swelling and pain was difficult for me to see on our second son. So, if I had to do it again I would do earlier rather than later if at all.

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Vanessa, here in the UK circumcision rates are a fraction of those in the US. The advice given to parents here is to leave well alone. So I assume that this is mostly what happens and there are hardly any problems. I work in a hospital and have been making enquiries. So I shall continue to leave my sons foreskin well alone, as it seems to work just fine that way for the vast majority of little boys.

Michelle - posted on 06/17/2009

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Quoting Magali:

Kelly i believe if God put the skin there is for a reason and you should not do anything against your son. That is to protect your child as well. Please let him be as he was born... Don't do anything to hurt him...



I sorry but Kelly asked for you circumcision opinion not you religious views. Nothing is worse than people who push them on you, religion is a choice people make, not something people push on  them.



 



Michelle

Michelle - posted on 06/17/2009

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Oh i sorry to hear you troubles, both my boys had were circumised at 12 months and it took about 4 to 8 days to recover and because the nappies are padded they still ran around and acted like nothing happen. My paeds doctor said to me that he prefered to do it at 12 months because they recover faster.



I would honestly not panic, just remember if you do it rubbing paw paw cream on there nappy so the when it healing it wont stick to nappy and hurt your little boy.

Rebecca - posted on 06/17/2009

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every one has there own opions about circ's and yes every ones religions are diffrent so dont bring God into it... this is personal and what ever they decide they do for there sons well being... weather they do or dont hve it done ... doesnt matter if it was put there to begin with . if this is what they want then they are going to have it done .

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Quoting Magali:

Kelly i believe if God put the skin there is for a reason and you should not do anything against your son. That is to protect your child as well. Please let him be as he was born... Don't do anything to hurt him...


I think you need to keep God out of this, and let people do as they choose. Some religions have rituals involving circ's, and that is what their God's path is for them. I think you need a gag!

User - posted on 06/17/2009

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My son had the same thing happen, except it got worse and tuned into a "hidden penis" where it would actually retreat back inside like a turtle's head! Our ped told us the same thing about pulling it back and the neosporin and the bleeding and the sores and oh, the crying! Then we stopped the whole pulling thing, fired the ped, and went to a Urologist on our own only to find out that our 11 month old little guy needed surgery as well. I was devastated to say the least, but the Doc assured me that it was the right thing to do in the long run because it could permanently get stuck inside. Now your situation may be different, and if it isn't doing that then I have been our Urologist that the top will eventually separate itself with age just as with uncircumsized men. Whatever you do, my heart goes out to you, and you are more than welcome to ask me whatever questions you may have! Oh, and my son is now almost 4 and doesn't remember the surgery at all.~Mommy in OR

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Quoting Jenifer:




Quoting Vanessa:

To the mother that has never pulled the skin back on an uncircumcised male child. These boys can develope adhesions as well as circumcised boys. I am a nurse. I used to work E.R. and we had a little boy come in one night whose parents had never retracted his uncirc foreskin and the adhesions had gotten so bad the urethra was consrticted and he could barely pee thru the end. Per urologists instructions... they should be retracted at bath time at least once a day for cleanliness. As he gets older he needs to be taught to retract the foreskin and clean himself. If not these young boys and men are at higher risks for bad urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and adhesions. You've been blessed so far to have no issues. For the mom with the poorly done circ. I've helped take care of 18-24 mo. olds in recovery from re-done circs and they do well. Use ointment on the sores and follow your urologists recommendations. Every child and every parent is different. Good luck and God bless.







According to the AAP, this is not true. The foreskin on an uncircumcised boy does not need to be pulled back for cleaning unless the foreskin is no longer adhered to the head of the penis. If a boy is uncircumcised, the adhesion are the natural state. You can find the AAP statement here:








http://www.aap.org/publiced/br_uncircumc...







I'm not trying to pressure anyone to my point of view on whether to circumcise or not, I'm merely saying that if the penis is left in its present state for a while or permanently the foreskin should not be retracted, as stated here by the AAP.  I am amazed at the horror stories about "needing" to retract the foreskin or "having" to be circumcised.  This is almost entirely an American thing.  I've lived in Europe and did much of my "pre baby research" while living there.  None of that hysteria exists there despite only a tiny fraction of the men being circumcised.  I live in a city that, due to the multinational industry here, has a large non-American population. When the topic comes up or when I see someone changing their son, there are very few boys who are circumcised and yet I have NEVER heard a horror story except on this forum. I think it is the American obsession with sterile body cleanliness coupled with ignorance in the medical community (due to boys being almost universally circumcised just one generation ago) that leads to a lot of misinformation.  As I said, I encourage you to do what you and your doctor feel is right in the long run, but in the short run (or if you choose to leave the foreskin as is) the less you fuss with it the better off it will be.

Rachel - posted on 06/17/2009

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I dont know anything about circumcisions as I only have a girl... but I am disappointed in some of the responses on here. It seems to me people are trying to push their personal feelings on to you. I am sure that as a loving mother you have done the research and talked to the doctors and now the decision is yours (which I understand is soo scary) You are not doing this to torture your son but to help him in the long run. Dont listen to what everyone else has to say just listen to your heart, only you know what is best for you and your son! Everything will work out in the end!

Niki - posted on 06/17/2009

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I had to have my son recircumcised fot the same reason. The urologist said they basically didn't take anything off. I do wonder if it is because of your ped. or your uro, that you wait until a year...Keagan was redone at 10 months, mainly due to his size and weight. In my experience, he didn't really have that much trauma. In fact, he was up and happy the day after the surgery. I also want to say that if you don't get it redone, it is possible that it will create adhesions that will be painful for him when he gets older and has erections. If that happens, he will have to be recircumcised anyway, which will be MORE traumatic than if you do it as a baby. All in all, it comes down to what you feel is best for you and your baby. I personally would recommend having it done, but I am not a doctor. Keep us updated!

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Quoting Vanessa:

To the mother that has never pulled the skin back on an uncircumcised male child. These boys can develope adhesions as well as circumcised boys. I am a nurse. I used to work E.R. and we had a little boy come in one night whose parents had never retracted his uncirc foreskin and the adhesions had gotten so bad the urethra was consrticted and he could barely pee thru the end. Per urologists instructions... they should be retracted at bath time at least once a day for cleanliness. As he gets older he needs to be taught to retract the foreskin and clean himself. If not these young boys and men are at higher risks for bad urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and adhesions. You've been blessed so far to have no issues. For the mom with the poorly done circ. I've helped take care of 18-24 mo. olds in recovery from re-done circs and they do well. Use ointment on the sores and follow your urologists recommendations. Every child and every parent is different. Good luck and God bless.


According to the AAP, this is not true. The foreskin on an uncircumcised boy does not need to be pulled back for cleaning unless the foreskin is no longer adhered to the head of the penis. If a boy is uncircumcised, the adhesion are the natural state. You can find the AAP statement here:



http://www.aap.org/publiced/br_uncircumc...

Vanessa - posted on 06/17/2009

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To the mother that has never pulled the skin back on an uncircumcised male child. These boys can develope adhesions as well as circumcised boys. I am a nurse. I used to work E.R. and we had a little boy come in one night whose parents had never retracted his uncirc foreskin and the adhesions had gotten so bad the urethra was consrticted and he could barely pee thru the end. Per urologists instructions... they should be retracted at bath time at least once a day for cleanliness. As he gets older he needs to be taught to retract the foreskin and clean himself. If not these young boys and men are at higher risks for bad urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and adhesions. You've been blessed so far to have no issues. For the mom with the poorly done circ. I've helped take care of 18-24 mo. olds in recovery from re-done circs and they do well. Use ointment on the sores and follow your urologists recommendations. Every child and every parent is different. Good luck and God bless.

Ana - posted on 06/17/2009

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It's so horrible that you had to go through this once......I know you probably don't want to hear this but you may need to do this again....I would go to a specialist as well who has done this thousands of times and get it done the right way......My heart goes out to you and your little boy. Both my boys were done and by a specialist and they have had no problems. Hope everything works out for you.

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Just a suggestion...why not just stop pulling it back and see what happens if its left to heal on its own? My son is uncircumcised and I have never ever attempted to pull the skin back as I read its a really bad thing to do.
As you say they wont re-perform the surgery until hes 18-24 mo anyway, assuming he is managing to urinate without problems I think theres a case to be made for leaving it well alone and seeing what happens.

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Just a suggestion...why not just stop pulling it back and see what happens if its left to heal on its own? My son is uncircumcised and I have never ever attempted to pull the skin back as I read its a really bad thing to do.
As you say they wont re-perform the surgery until hes 18-24 mo anyway, assuming he is managing to urinate without problems I think theres a case to be made for leaving it well alone and seeing what happens.

Eileen - posted on 06/17/2009

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Iam mother to two boys, and two girls, . and it was very important to us to ahv etboth boys done, not for just for vanity as some would say, but for hygiene. My first husband, and my oldest boys dad, had to be done at 24.. yes.. thats a little old for circumcision! but due to constant infections and issues with it, it was necessary (he was also military at the time, which made keeping it clean even harder....

anyway, if you feel it is important to you , and best for your son , then don't tkae no for an answer, and absolutely, the younger the better. They shouldnt have to use general anesthesia, there are other ways, such as a sedative and local.... ask for a second opinion, push for it and ge tthe options. definitely, the younger the better, and yes, considerably less traumatizing to an infant! (by 18 months they are more likely to remember what they went through! and be upset, even have personality and behaviour changes because of it!) remind them, babies go under full anethesia all the time for other reasons, and if its really necessary, then so be it.. my son went under twice for endoscopy, once at 8 months and again at 12..



Please, if you need to, remind the doctors that it will if it grows back abnormally as he ages!

stay strong, trust you instinct, and stand up for what you feel is best for your son!!

Magali - posted on 06/17/2009

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Kelly i believe if God put the skin there is for a reason and you should not do anything against your son. That is to protect your child as well. Please let him be as he was born... Don't do anything to hurt him...

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Kelly - so sorry your little boy is going through this! I don't have any experience with it, but I've heard that some doctors are now recommending that you leave the adhesions alone, since most often they resolve on their own in time. So you could continue pulling back the skin that is not adhered, but not so hard that you pull open the adhesions. Hopefully, the urologist can give you some good advice. Here's a link to research on adhesions resolving without surgery, if you're interested:
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/...

Mel - posted on 06/16/2009

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i would just say dont put him thru anymore pain you have already gone and had him mutilated please dont put him thru anymore. i hope that someone can help you to make the right decision.

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Part of the problem is that you shouldn't be pulling his foreskin back AT ALL. The foreskin is naturally attached to the head of the penis at this age (sometimes until they are adolescents) so it is perfectly natural for it to bleed or make a sore if you pull on it. If you want him recirc'ed that's your decision but I would just leave it alone totally and see what it does. It may grow back to its natural state. If it grows back with improper adhesions, he may need to have something done but do not assume that because it bleeds or is raw when you mess with it that this is bad. The problem is the messing with it, not the way the skin is attached. :-)

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Part of the problem is that you shouldn't be pulling his foreskin back AT ALL. The foreskin is naturally attached to the head of the penis at this age (sometimes until they are adolescents) so it is perfectly natural for it to bleed or make a sore if you pull on it. If you want him recirc'ed that's your decision but I would just leave it alone totally and see what it does. It may grow back to its natural state. If it grows back with improper adhesions, he may need to have something done but do not assume that because it bleeds or is raw when you mess with it that this is bad. The problem is the messing with it, not the way the skin is attached. :-)

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That's awful I wouldn't think it should take that long for it to heal up. Well my situations is a little different... My son was born with hypospadia so he could not be circumsized at birth. He is having the surgery to fix it next month when he turns 6 months old. I know the pediatrician urologist we spoke with said they like to do surgeries on them under 12-18 months old because the won't remember it. As they get older they could be traumitized from it. So I would be getting in to see the Dr ASAP and get their opinion if it needs to be fixed. I know how you feel about not wanting to put your Baby through it. I feel horrible I have too but we don't he could possible have complications with it down the road as he get's older and I don't want that for my child. So it is best to do it when they are young. Good Luck!!

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Hmmm... I have three boys and the last one is just 8 months old. It was the strangest thing, I had a dream the last week of being pregnant that something would be different about his penis. I was unclear of whether it would be a botched circumcision or what. I, too, mentioned it to my nurses and the doctor as well. My two other sons are 7 1/2 and 3, and I had babysat a couple other little boys while I was pregnant, and their penis' looked different. So I asked the doctor if there was a different way that they do it now, he said no. I told him about the other little boys and then I mentioned to him that I wanted the new baby's to look like my other son's. Which he brushed off and told me that they don't do them for vanity. Well, the skin grew back around, although I pulled the skin back just as I had with my older sons'. When we went back at the 2 week check-up, the pediatrician pulled the skin back and made it bleed. I was devastated! It looked so painful!! So then after that, I made sure to continue to pull the skin back. Despite my efforts, it also happened at the 2 and 4 month well checks! I was told that he had a mild form of hypospadius. But I am wondering if the circumcision was done wrong. I don't know. It is very frustrating!! We were referred to the urologist, but as you said they can't do anything until he is older.

Kelly - posted on 06/16/2009

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He can't be referred just yet because of general anethesia. Doctors will no perform re-circumcision until 18-24 months. The reason we are considering this is because we both come from families of a lot of boys and everyone asks why we haven't had him circumcised, it's that bad no one can even tell we ever did. Even our peditrician had asked at his 6 month appointment "i thought you had him circumcised".

Geralyn - posted on 06/16/2009

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Oh, poor little guy! I realized, at the hospital, that there are doctors that do circumcisions "on the side" for extra money. We waited and had our pediatrician perform it. It did take some maintenance for a while it seems.... It seems like the older my son gets, the more cognizant he is of us touching his pee pee to clean it and such.... I think if I were you, I would ask for a referral now as opposed to 2 months out, unless the sores need time to heal, of course, or some other medical issue. Is it one of those situations because you did it already and its at least partially done that you have to re-do it? Or is there an option not ot do it, and just care for it as an uncircumcized one? Your son is so handsome. Please don't beat yourself up over this. There have been several issues that have arisen where I felt like I should have followed my instincts but didn't. It just goes to show that moms have great instincts, and you can certainly trust yours in the future. I hope that it works out well.

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