Cervical Cancer Jab

Lorraine - posted on 09/29/2009 ( 100 moms have responded )

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Hi all, as a mum of older children i am hoping i can get some feedback on this subject. I have three girls aged 15, 13 and 11 and three weeks ago my two eldest brought letters home from their high school about the hpv immunisation. Now i was 30 when i had my eldest so i can remember how bad illnesses like measles, rubella, polio and mumps etc really are (immunisation came out in the 70's which was too late for me and my sister) so I was determined that my children would have the immunisations and i have never hesitated in the past to give my consent for them to have whatever injections they needed to defeat diseases. I filled in the consent forms for the hpv vaccination and they are due to have their first one sometime over the next two weeks, but of course there has been that report on the tv this morning about that poor girl dying. So do i ignore the risks and let them have the injection that could save their lives in the future or should i withdraw my consent and risk them catching the hpv virus in the future. I would appreciate some feedback as to what other mums would do. Thanks, Lorraine

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Pamela - posted on 09/29/2009

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I will be quite honest and say that I have always been against injections because all that they do is to actually give you a small dose of whatever the disease is, supposedly in a low enough dosage to give your body a chance to build immunities. To me that is a very poor idea.

Not everyone's body is going to be exposed to a cancer risk and the fact that the medical community? is going into high schools and suggesting this SMACKS of self-righteousness on their parts! Who knows, they could simply be using this population of young women as "guine4s pigs" for their own reasons. I would NOT TRUST this "jab".

Jeannine - posted on 09/30/2009

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Ok, do you ladies know that over 2/3 of the US population has or will have hpv in their lifetimes? That means that the odds are exceptionally good that your daughters will get it. Also, you can carry the virus for years, passing it on to your partner or partners.



Have any of you done research on this disease? Do you know what it does? Do you want your daughter to have all these horrible growths on her genitals? Do you want her to have a hysterectomy because she develops cervical cancer? Do you want her to have to undergo all kinds of painful and embarrassing treatments because of this? What about a LEEP, where they use an electrified wire to cut layers of her cervix off? Or a colposcopy, where they take a chunk out of her cervix to run tests? Or what if she becomes pregnant and has to choose between aborting the child or losing her own life from the cancer? Did you know that it CAN be spread in ways other than direct sexual contact, such as trying on clothing that another girl who has it was just wearing? Did you also know that they cannot vouch for the vaccine's efficacy IF the child is already sexually active? Do you realize that since 2 out of 3 will contract this virus, more than likely, even if your daughter only has ONE sexual partner her entire life, HE will have the virus? Do you realize that if you have the virus, you may NEVER have symptoms?



This doesn't in any way advocate sexual promiscuity and I don't see how anyone can even think that. It doesn't say, "Hey, go out and have sex with several people!" Cervical cancer is caused by MANY other things besides this virus. You do NOT have to be "irresponsibly sexually promiscuous" to get this. You do NOT have to have multiple sexual partners. The amount of self respect your daughter has will NOT keep her from being infected. What if your daughter is raped and contracts the virus from her attacker? Will you blame it on her "irresponsible promiscuity"? What it DOES do is protect your child from something deadly.



My daughters (all 5 of them) have already completed their series of injections and none of them had any kind of side effects. That few seconds of sting is nothing compared to what they would have suffered when, not IF since it's almost a given considering the odds, they got this virus.



I contracted the virus from my rapist at the age of 15. I have been through absolute hell with this with the huge number of procedures including a hysterectomy that I have had to have. I developed cervical cancer because some idiot decided that I was to be his next victim. Is THAT what you want for YOUR daughter?



It is our ultimate responsibility to give our daughters all the protection we can possibly give them. That includes protecting them from themselves and others. This vaccine does that. It is the ultimate in IRresponsibility to fail in our duties to our children in that way.

Jaclyn - posted on 09/29/2009

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The concept that ance you are exposed to something your body can then figure out how to fight it has been around for decades. Before there was antibacterial soap and bottled water kids played outside, got cut and scraped, broke bones falling out of trees and tree houses and no one ever sued over it. Kids ate dirt and worms and never died from it! You build up immunities to the common cold by actually getting dirty! Why do you think there are things like the SUPER FLU and all of these other strange diseases popping up all over the world? People have gone completely germaphobic and have to use antibacterial wipes and sprays on everything now our bodies don't know what to do when we inhale a speck of dust and to the hospital we go! Get real... live your life... get educated about all of these vaccines and what it really means to have them given to your kids! Who ever died from Chicken Pox... NO ONE... but the laws say our kids have to have the vaccine in order to go to school... WHY!!! Vaccinating against ilnesses that can actually KILL you in a good idea as long as the treatment is safer than the disease which I don't think most of them are! Not enough time is taken for testing. The phamaceutical companies are too concerned with getting the drug out and making money. Real people don't matter anymore... just test subjects which is wrong! Their job is to find cures for REAL problems not give a false sense of security to a new generation of kids and parents!

Christi - posted on 09/29/2009

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I wondered the same thing. If you risk death now or possibly death later? I guess it depends on your family history. Does this run in your family? I think that this immunization is to new. I don't like trying new meds, just because the kinks haven't always been worked out. 10 years from now they will tell us it causes something else. My child was given the oral polio vaccine when she was an infant and later, I found out she could have gotten Polio from that vaccine, the injection was safer. My second child was given the chicken pox shot a couple years ago, she broke out with chicken poxs, then 3 weeks later she got them again. Now she is a candidate for shingles. maybe that shot was good, maybe not?? but I think I will be holding off on the HPV for now. Keep in mind the commercials for birth control that used to say they were great for your skin, etc... now they say causes strokes, heart attacks, and may result in death. How many people did this happen too before they changed the commercial? ok.. hope this helps. good luck in finding what's best for you and your daughters.

ELIZABETH - posted on 10/03/2009

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Kimberley - posted on 05/26/2011

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Which is more likely to happen? Your daughter to be harmed by the vaccine? And how many times has that happened? OR that she'll be exposed to some variety of the HPV virus????

Shantell - posted on 10/06/2009

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I am a first time mom and really just getting interest in alot of things because of my daughter so i would really appreciate if you explain this hpv virus further to me. Thank you so much!

Kate CP - posted on 10/05/2009

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*bangs head on desk* YOU CAN GET HPV FROM HAVING JUST ONE PARTNER. So even if girls wait until they're married they could STILL GET HPV FROM THEIR HUSBAND!

Ugh. It's like talking to a brick wall.

Sherri - posted on 10/05/2009

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The HPV immunization is dangerous - more dangerous than the HPV infection, which clears up on its own in 90% of girls. Gardasil has caused thousands of serious reactions (some of them deadly), and your daughter can still get human papillomavirus (HPV) after receiving it. In the United States, as of August 2007 a review of the National Vaccine Information Center revealed the following, quite alarming, statistic about this unnecessary vaccine: 2,207 adverse reactions to Gardasil have been reported. Among them:



5 girls died

31 were considered life-threatening

1,385 required a visit to the emergency room

451 of the girls have not recovered as of July 2007

51 of the girls were disabled



It is a sexually transmitted infection and can be prevented by lifestyle choices.



Big Pharma is spending millions to scare women into getting this vaccine. They stand to make billions of dollars and you will not hear the truth about the risk of HPV or the harmful side affects of this (and all vaccines) from them. Go to drmercola.com and put "hpv vaccine" in the search engine. Good information not influenced by advertisers or lobbyists.

Mary T. - posted on 10/04/2009

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I am a mother and an RN. I had my teenage daughter have the vaccine. Vaccines/immunizations have saved millions of lives.

Grace - posted on 10/04/2009

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I know people who have contracted serious STDs from their spouses (that was how they found out their marriage was not stable). No one like to think of this, but girls also get raped sometimes, and in that case shouldn't have to worry about STDs on top of the psychological trauma. A vaccine is extra protection on top of teaching them how to be safe on the streets. I have boys, and if I could get them vaccinated, I would give it serious thought, not to give them permission, but to protect them in the case their wives are not as faithful as they promised to be. However, given the current potential problems with the vaccine, I would also wait a bit to see if the vaccine was really the problem, or if the vaccine could be made safer. Our children need to know all the risks of sexual intercourse, including pregnancy, and a lifetime commitment to a child, and what that entails. If we teach them that and supervise them appropriately, some will still rebel, but most will "get it".

Tiera - posted on 10/04/2009

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I never trust any "new" medical invention until it has been around for awhile. The true test of it's effectiveness and safety only develops after many people have used it. "Studies" don't always reflect what will really happen when used by everyone. Other things to remember, the vax doesn't protect against all strains- just a few and I think HPV is actually sexually transmitted so I intend to educate my daughters as if is another STD.

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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Diane Harper is pro-vaccinations...she wasnt there to speak to people to get them to "not vaccinate" she was there to speak about her experiences. She has no reason to lie when she is FOR what everyone else at that conference is against. But hey....guess the pro-vaxers are liars =)

Sharon - posted on 10/03/2009

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It sounds like gossip to me.



I see no facts. It could be sour grapes. Her gossip about the trial protocols goes against everything I've ever seen in a study.



Because if what she were saying were true - the companies would be sued to hell and back. When you sign up for these studies they promise you what the placebo will be - the question is whether or not you get the placebo or the test vaccine.



They can't just substitute grape jelly as the placebo.



Sorry it sounds like crap to me. Made up bullshit to scare people into doing it "their way".

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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I too have personal experience...in fact i took the BRCA1 gene test and fully intended to get a prophylactic double mastectomy and oopherectomy had it been positive (it wasnt). A lady i know went to the NVIC conference today there was a speaker who was a vaccine researcher...this is what she had to say.

After he spoke Diane Harper spoke. She was also amazing, but for a little different reason than you might think. She is a vaccine researcher, and openly admitted receiving money from Merck to develop Gardisil. She said 90% of HPV will go away on its own after 2 yrs. They had to use the immunobridging philosophy on the young girls b/c they didn't want to do pelvic exams. She said they have no idea how long the vax will keep its efficacy. If it's not longer than 15yrs then it will only postpone cancer in the population. We won't know for 65 yrs whether the vax has helped cancer. She said no surrogate antibody titer is known to equate efficacy. She said the placebo used in the "safety" study had aluminum in one study and, get this, the other study used used the Hep A vax for the placebo. They figured as long as the people were coming in for the study, they might as well get some benefit from it, so they used the hep A vax. How is that a placebo at all???? She admitted VAERS is a horrible reporting system. She said we have a wonderful screening process and that would suffice for cancer screening. She said if we vax for HPV and then don't do the screening, the rates of cerv cancer will double. She said, get this again, that she knows there are nutritional deficits that would cause a woman to not be able to expel the virus. That blew my mind! They know it, but still choose to develop the vax. So sad. She did say she was against mandates. I say she was amazing b/c she was incredibly candid and honest. She presented this information as well as a TON of other stuff in such a professional manner. But as most of us know, her own words are, in my opinion, damning to the vaccine. Why anyone would get this vax is beyond me. She was promoting the vax, and the common sense evidence against is was overwhelming. I applaud her for coming in there and showing the science. If parents received this informatio n before vaxing I don't see how they would vax. Like I said I know it's somewhat jumbled, and I apologize for that.

Charlie - posted on 10/03/2009

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It is sad that it happened and i agree the vaccine could have been a contributing factor to her death but her body was in a weaker state than the average healthy teen .
My point is the number of deaths caused by cervical cancer by far out ways the deaths caused by the vaccine and although it is not 100 % effective with those statistics i would rather be safe than sorry and as someone who has had the vaccine and who's family does have a high incidence of cancer ( i have watched both my parents go through it and it's horrendous )i am thankful for the vaccine , of course My opinion is swayed by personal experience from the disease.

Cassie - posted on 10/03/2009

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I would let them get the immunizations cause the chances of them getting really sick and dying are a lot less than the chances of them getting hpv. good luck with this one though...look up statics on the immunization read up on some of the things to do with all the stats on both sides...

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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FB is being wacked out and wont let me reply with quote.....the 14 year old had a tumor in her chest, which first off is counter indicated in the first place for getting the vaccine. Secondly it doesnt negate the fact that the vaccine IS what killed her... even the doctors agree the tumor was not the cause of her death at that moment. Could it have killed her...of course. But it was not the cause of her death. I am sure Gabi who is fighting for her life right now would have to agree.

Charlie - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Alyssa:

To many girls have died from this vaccine in the very short time it has be out. We dont vaccinate but even if we did...this would be 1 i would NEVER get for my kids.


 



 



Worldwide it is estimated that there are 473,000 cases of cervical cancer, and 253,500 deaths per year.



 



Thats a hell of a lot more deaths from cancer  than the vaccine has caused and the 14 year old girl who died shortly after having her jab had  a serious underlying medical condition which was likely to have caused death and not specifically caused by the vaccination itself .

Rebecca Lynn - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Jeannine:



Quoting Jeannine:

Ok, do you ladies know that over 2/3 of the US population has or will have hpv in their lifetimes? That means that the odds are exceptionally good that your daughters will get it. Also, you can carry the virus for years, passing it on to your partner or partners.

Have any of you done research on this disease? Do you know what it does? Do you want your daughter to have all these horrible growths on her genitals? Do you want her to have a hysterectomy because she develops cervical cancer? Do you want her to have to undergo all kinds of painful and embarrassing treatments because of this? What about a LEEP, where they use an electrified wire to cut layers of her cervix off? Or a colposcopy, where they take a chunk out of her cervix to run tests? Or what if she becomes pregnant and has to choose between aborting the child or losing her own life from the cancer? Did you know that it CAN be spread in ways other than direct sexual contact, such as trying on clothing that another girl who has it was just wearing? Did you also know that they cannot vouch for the vaccine's efficacy IF the child is already sexually active? Do you realize that since 2 out of 3 will contract this virus, more than likely, even if your daughter only has ONE sexual partner her entire life, HE will have the virus? Do you realize that if you have the virus, you may NEVER have symptoms?

This doesn't in any way advocate sexual promiscuity and I don't see how anyone can even think that. It doesn't say, "Hey, go out and have sex with several people!" Cervical cancer is caused by MANY other things besides this virus. You do NOT have to be "irresponsibly sexually promiscuous" to get this. You do NOT have to have multiple sexual partners. The amount of self respect your daughter has will NOT keep her from being infected. What if your daughter is raped and contracts the virus from her attacker? Will you blame it on her "irresponsible promiscuity"? What it DOES do is protect your child from something deadly.

My daughters (all 5 of them) have already completed their series of injections and none of them had any kind of side effects. That few seconds of sting is nothing compared to what they would have suffered when, not IF since it's almost a given considering the odds, they got this virus.

I contracted the virus from my rapist at the age of 15. I have been through absolute hell with this with the huge number of procedures including a hysterectomy that I have had to have. I developed cervical cancer because some idiot decided that I was to be his next victim. Is THAT what you want for YOUR daughter?

It is our ultimate responsibility to give our daughters all the protection we can possibly give them. That includes protecting them from themselves and others. This vaccine does that. It is the ultimate in IRresponsibility to fail in our duties to our children in that way.





Did you ladies even read what I previously wrote? Did anyone pay attention to the fact that it isn't very effective once they become sexually active? That's why they want to give it to 11 and 12 year old girls, because the chances are much smaller that they are already having sex!






 






As I said, I got it from the man who raped me. I wasn't being promiscuous. It was my first time. Because of it, I spent 13 years of hell with this treatment, that treatment, the other treatment and side effects of cervical cancer. I can't believe that some of you would refuse to give it to your child when the chances are exceptionally high that she will contract the virus. It's a no brainer.





"OK so I do agree that girls are becoming sexually active at VERY early ages now adays and if you think your 11/12 and 13 year old aren't thinking about it THINK AGAIN because my mother had her first baby at 12 YES 12 the baby died a few days later of complications and this was NOT her first pregnancy.  She had me at 16.  Even with all this said I will still take my chances with cervical cancer rather than have this shot and risk being stuck in a wheel chair on disability for the rest of my life and being a drain on society."

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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To many girls have died from this vaccine in the very short time it has be out. We dont vaccinate but even if we did...this would be 1 i would NEVER get for my kids.

Betty - posted on 10/03/2009

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I didn't even think about the possibility of a girl getting raped. Maybe you have all the information you need now. I hope you understand that the chances of your daughters getting injured from this vaccine are very low and they would more likely be struck by lighting than killed by this. I wish I could get the vaccine but I'm too old to get it now.

Denise - posted on 10/03/2009

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my grandaughter ellie had the injections about 4months ago and she has been fine i think the girl that died had some sort illness and shouldnt have been given the injection if i was you i would have them done

Jeannine - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Jeannine:

Ok, do you ladies know that over 2/3 of the US population has or will have hpv in their lifetimes? That means that the odds are exceptionally good that your daughters will get it. Also, you can carry the virus for years, passing it on to your partner or partners.

Have any of you done research on this disease? Do you know what it does? Do you want your daughter to have all these horrible growths on her genitals? Do you want her to have a hysterectomy because she develops cervical cancer? Do you want her to have to undergo all kinds of painful and embarrassing treatments because of this? What about a LEEP, where they use an electrified wire to cut layers of her cervix off? Or a colposcopy, where they take a chunk out of her cervix to run tests? Or what if she becomes pregnant and has to choose between aborting the child or losing her own life from the cancer? Did you know that it CAN be spread in ways other than direct sexual contact, such as trying on clothing that another girl who has it was just wearing? Did you also know that they cannot vouch for the vaccine's efficacy IF the child is already sexually active? Do you realize that since 2 out of 3 will contract this virus, more than likely, even if your daughter only has ONE sexual partner her entire life, HE will have the virus? Do you realize that if you have the virus, you may NEVER have symptoms?

This doesn't in any way advocate sexual promiscuity and I don't see how anyone can even think that. It doesn't say, "Hey, go out and have sex with several people!" Cervical cancer is caused by MANY other things besides this virus. You do NOT have to be "irresponsibly sexually promiscuous" to get this. You do NOT have to have multiple sexual partners. The amount of self respect your daughter has will NOT keep her from being infected. What if your daughter is raped and contracts the virus from her attacker? Will you blame it on her "irresponsible promiscuity"? What it DOES do is protect your child from something deadly.

My daughters (all 5 of them) have already completed their series of injections and none of them had any kind of side effects. That few seconds of sting is nothing compared to what they would have suffered when, not IF since it's almost a given considering the odds, they got this virus.

I contracted the virus from my rapist at the age of 15. I have been through absolute hell with this with the huge number of procedures including a hysterectomy that I have had to have. I developed cervical cancer because some idiot decided that I was to be his next victim. Is THAT what you want for YOUR daughter?

It is our ultimate responsibility to give our daughters all the protection we can possibly give them. That includes protecting them from themselves and others. This vaccine does that. It is the ultimate in IRresponsibility to fail in our duties to our children in that way.


Did you ladies even read what I previously wrote? Did anyone pay attention to the fact that it isn't very effective once they become sexually active? That's why they want to give it to 11 and 12 year old girls, because the chances are much smaller that they are already having sex!



 



As I said, I got it from the man who raped me. I wasn't being promiscuous. It was my first time. Because of it, I spent 13 years of hell with this treatment, that treatment, the other treatment and side effects of cervical cancer. I can't believe that some of you would refuse to give it to your child when the chances are exceptionally high that she will contract the virus. It's a no brainer.

Pam - posted on 10/02/2009

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My daughter goes to school with Gabi Swank who had the Gardisil shots. She had a reaction to the shots and now they don't know whether she will live past the age of 18. Please, do not do this. I refuse to get my 17 year old daughter the shots. Please, don't let your daughter be one less.

Kate CP - posted on 10/02/2009

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Quoting Heather:



Quoting Kate:




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Okay this is a little silly and one sided.  As a mom who did ALOT of research and saw ALOT of studies on the effects of these vaccines.  There is alot of info that people do not have because a medical doctor will not tell you that prove that vaccines are NOT as great as some may feel.  Have you ever read the list of ingredients of what goes into each injection? it is way more than a small piece of the virus. And what people do not realize is these vaccines, and medications for that matter are not test very much at all before they are releases and talked up by the company that produces it. They only need a very low percentage rate before being released. Why do you think you see so many medications being taken off the market now a days  and the most important thing that most people forget while bashing those of us who have decides for our families to not have vaccines is that VACCINES DO NOT GARRENTEE YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU ARE BEING VACCINATED FOR.










I beleive that every one has the right to make their own choice on to have or not to have vaccines. Because I choise not to put toxins such in my families vodies does not mean I want people to be sick. That it a little harsh. There are many people who never have vaccines and never get sick other that a common cold. But people have a right to their opinion and we should be adult and respect those rights.












I'm sorry but that's just not correct. Medications are tested for years before they are ever even tried on humans. Some things slip through that shouldn't but on the whole most medications are safe for the general population. Vaccines do not guarantee that you will not get what you're being vaccinated for...but it's better than nothing. And the stuff they put in vaccines is filtered through our body and usually (unless you have a reaction to an ingredient) doesn't affect most people. We put worse crap in our bodies every day just by eating take out and driving cars and breathing. 









You may chose to believe that it is not correct that is fine. I chosed to believe that just because a medication has been tested for years means nothing, they do not have to be even 50% effective before the FDA releases it, and then many people die or get sick and they say oh yeah it isn't as good as we thought. Until you have taken on of those so called safe drugs later to find out it is being taken off the market because it has killed so many people then I guess you would not understand.  There is nothing like getting a letter in the mail saying you are part of a class action suit because you took a medication that has now been removed from the market because enouhg ttesting wasn't done and it killed alot of people. I have experienced that and it is a scary thing to go through.   I also chose for MYSELF not to just believe everything my government or society tells me.  I also don't just beleive everything I see on tv or read.  The stuff they put in vaccines besides the deseas itself our bodies where not made to filter.  So unless you have seen the list of extra ingredients you wouldn't understand.  They are ingredients you would not put in your body other wise why do it for a vaccine.  I respect your feeling that getting a vaccine is better than what MAY happen that is your right I do not down you for taht, just as people like me who make an IMFORMED decision ( which is when you get info from both sides inpartial sidesat that) to not put those toxins in our bodies should not be downed for that.





You are aware that the FDA doesn't exist outside of the US? We're lucky to even have an agency like it. In most countries it's "buyer/taker beware" and there is no mandatory testing period. If testing means nothing then what's the point of taking any medication? And yes, I've read the ingredients in vaccines. The trace amounts of things in the vaccine DOES filter out of our bodies. Kidneys and livers are fantastic organs. As for what MAY happen if you don't get the vaccine...that's the same as what MAY happen if you do. The chances of having a reaction are slim and most of the time (most of the time) it's relatively mild. However, having whooping cough or cervical cancer is a much more serious problem than a slight fever and aches that most experience from a vaccine "reaction". 

Rebecca Lynn - posted on 10/02/2009

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I will never get nor will I ever allow my daughter to get that vaccine after hearing about the horrible side effects some of which include paralysis!

Elva - posted on 10/02/2009

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Hi...I have a 15 yr. old daughter...I have not had her vaccinated....I am nervous about the newness of the vaccine...Now the twist here is that I have HPV, i found out a yr. ago, and have pap smears done every 6 mos....I just had an abnormal pap which showed abnormal cell growth, had a biopsy and that showed inflammation with some abnormal cells, but more inflammation...so at this time i am doing nothing until my next pap in Feb....with that i am still not getting the shot for my daughter...if monitored correctly you should be able to detect any abnormalities....and cervical cancer is a slow growing cancer....I know the risks are getting higher for our daughters today because of the number of sex partners the kids today have....I am 41, divorced and remarried and only had 2 sex partners, so if i can get it anyone can...once you do get it there is no way to find out who you got it from, you may have it for years and not even know it...the virus can lay dormant in your body, then if your body gets worn down from stress and or illness this may bring it out....I think that's what happened to me....I'm hoping and trying to be less stressed to get it to go back into it's dormant state....the longer it's active, that's when it causes problems, like abnormal cell growth which leads to cancer....but with all that my answer is still no...This vaccine is still too new for me...my daughter will be going for a pap and HPV testing every year....so, this is my thought, whatever your decision is, it's what's best for you and your girls....

Lisa - posted on 10/02/2009

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The new HPV vax is only made to help prevent 4 kinds of HPV virus. However, at least 11 are known to be precursors for cervical cancer.
Also the vaccine does not give protection after 5 years. If one were to get the vax I would recommend getting it around age 11 or 12 when girls are more likely to become sexually active, but are too immature to insist or buy condoms.
Personally I would NOT vaccinate my daughter, but that's MY opinion. Here is some information from the CDC website:
Genital human papillomavirus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI). The virus infects the skin and mucous membranes. There are more than 40 HPV types that can infect the genital areas of men and women, including the skin of the penis, vulva (area outside the vagina), and anus, and the linings of the vagina, cervix, and rectum. You cannot see HPV. Most people who become infected with HPV do not even know they have it.certain types of HPV can cause genital warts in men and women. Other HPV types can cause cervical cancer and other less common cancers, such as cancers of the vulva, vagina, anus, and penis. The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types that can cause cancer.
HPV infection. Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.

Genital warts. About 1% of sexually active adults in the U.S. have genital warts at any one time.

Cervical cancer. The American Cancer Society estimates that in 2008, 11,070 women will be diagnosed with cervical cancer in the U.S.

Other HPV-related cancers are much less common than cervical cancer. The American Cancer Society estimates that in 2008, there will be:

* 3,460 women diagnosed with vulvar cancer;
* 2,210 women diagnosed with vaginal and other female genital cancers;
* 1,250 men diagnosed with penile and other male genital cancers; and
* 3,050 women and 2,020 men diagnosed with anal cancer.
A vaccine can now protect females from the four types of HPV that cause most cervical cancers and genital warts. The vaccine is recommended for 11 and 12 year-old girls. It is also recommended for girls and women age 13 through 26 who have not yet been vaccinated or completed the vaccine series.

Kimberly - posted on 10/02/2009

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I am an Rn and my lastest Nursing Journal states they are taking another look at this vaccine and may be pulling it. Also you still need to have a yearly pap smear it does not prevent cervical cancer , it just lowers the chances tha you will get it from HPV.

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As a mother of 4 daughters ranging in ages of 7yrs to 13yrs old, I would NOT vaccinate my child with HPV. There are many complications, not just death. Paralysis has been a much high chance of happening...all for the sake of 'hoping' that the vaccine works.
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 There have been studies showing that the vaccine has actually increased the death rate in children since the CDC has made it readily available. This goes the same for H1N1 (Swine Flu) vaccine. 


Do you have the references to these studies? I haven't seen them and would be interested to know if they exist (which I doubt). The post-licensure study of Gardasil showed the shot only increased the risk of low-grade fever and fainting.

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Well, I think it would be wise to research thru the internet what HPV is in the first place and to research how it is contracted. It is a disease only contracted through sex. Not all HPV leads to cancer, infact the chances of that are very slim.

As a mother of 4 daughters ranging in ages of 7yrs to 13yrs old, I would NOT vaccinate my child with HPV. There are many complications, not just death. Paralysis has been a much high chance of happening...all for the sake of 'hoping' that the vaccine works.

I think it would do our daughters much more justice to teach the principle of natural consequences in our choices. Unfortunately we cannot, as parents, protect our children from everything. But we can teach that the decisions we make everyday affect our life in one way or another.

I personally am not comfortable with injecting my daughter with a virus that may have severe complications on her life, rather than teaching the importance of choices we all have to make. In addition, this vaccine has not been around long enough for studies to show that it will do any good...this was even a concern of a doctor that was on Good Morning America, recommending NOT to get this vaccine. There is just not enough proof.

On another note, I believe we should be finding out what exactly it is that we are putting into our bodies and the bodies of our children with the vaccines...whether it be flu, HPV or childhood immunizations. As an example, the flu vaccine contains formaldihide that we know is cancer causing...all for the sake of saving us from 2-3 days of sickness. There have been studies showing that the vaccine has actually increased the death rate in children since the CDC has made it readily available. This goes the same for H1N1 (Swine Flu) vaccine. In the 70's (1976?) there was the H1N1 vaccine that resulted in many complications.

All something to think about.

I hope this helps...

Charlene

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Quoting Kate:



Quoting Heather:




Okay this is a little silly and one sided.  As a mom who did ALOT of research and saw ALOT of studies on the effects of these vaccines.  There is alot of info that people do not have because a medical doctor will not tell you that prove that vaccines are NOT as great as some may feel.  Have you ever read the list of ingredients of what goes into each injection? it is way more than a small piece of the virus. And what people do not realize is these vaccines, and medications for that matter are not test very much at all before they are releases and talked up by the company that produces it. They only need a very low percentage rate before being released. Why do you think you see so many medications being taken off the market now a days  and the most important thing that most people forget while bashing those of us who have decides for our families to not have vaccines is that VACCINES DO NOT GARRENTEE YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU ARE BEING VACCINATED FOR.








I beleive that every one has the right to make their own choice on to have or not to have vaccines. Because I choise not to put toxins such in my families vodies does not mean I want people to be sick. That it a little harsh. There are many people who never have vaccines and never get sick other that a common cold. But people have a right to their opinion and we should be adult and respect those rights.









I'm sorry but that's just not correct. Medications are tested for years before they are ever even tried on humans. Some things slip through that shouldn't but on the whole most medications are safe for the general population. Vaccines do not guarantee that you will not get what you're being vaccinated for...but it's better than nothing. And the stuff they put in vaccines is filtered through our body and usually (unless you have a reaction to an ingredient) doesn't affect most people. We put worse crap in our bodies every day just by eating take out and driving cars and breathing. 





You may chose to believe that it is not correct that is fine. I chosed to believe that just because a medication has been tested for years means nothing, they do not have to be even 50% effective before the FDA releases it, and then many people die or get sick and they say oh yeah it isn't as good as we thought. Until you have taken on of those so called safe drugs later to find out it is being taken off the market because it has killed so many people then I guess you would not understand.  There is nothing like getting a letter in the mail saying you are part of a class action suit because you took a medication that has now been removed from the market because enouhg ttesting wasn't done and it killed alot of people. I have experienced that and it is a scary thing to go through.   I also chose for MYSELF not to just believe everything my government or society tells me.  I also don't just beleive everything I see on tv or read.  The stuff they put in vaccines besides the deseas itself our bodies where not made to filter.  So unless you have seen the list of extra ingredients you wouldn't understand.  They are ingredients you would not put in your body other wise why do it for a vaccine.  I respect your feeling that getting a vaccine is better than what MAY happen that is your right I do not down you for taht, just as people like me who make an IMFORMED decision ( which is when you get info from both sides inpartial sidesat that) to not put those toxins in our bodies should not be downed for that.

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What happened to educating our children and routine doctor visits? I'm all about my kids having their routine vaccinations but this is one that my daughter will NOT be getting. When she is of age she will see a gyno and have a yearly exam with her/him, like every woman should. For those who have sexually active children already.. how do you know they don't already have it? You are willing to risk the side affects of this vaccination on your daughters without even knowing if its too late?

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I think you should strongly research this now, the most recent updates are showing that this vac is causing more harm than good.
We as women are getting annual pap smears to look out for this.
I would be devistated if my daughter had become sick or very ill from the vac.

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I would suggest doing a lot of research. There have been a lot of major issues with this vaccine. I personally have a daughter and because of the risks...I will not have her receive it. I am a nurse and realize there has not been enough testing done on this or the H1N1 flu shot to subject my child to the consequences that MAY come out of it. It is a huge decision one only YOU can decide. Just be informed!!!

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Quoting Loureen:



Quoting Jodi:




Quoting Loureen:

Ive had my Gardisil shots , no side affects for me .

Of course your daughters may not be sexually active now but someday they will be and even if they only sleep with one person there is no guarantee of how many people their partner has slept with , it only takes ONE person to become infected and statistics show its very common .

50 % of sexually active women and men have HPV by the age of 50 , 80% of women have HPV .
HPV is the virus that causes cervical cancer , so unless you screen every boyfriend and track their every sexual activity previous to a relationship with your daughter you will never know what they have .

personally i would do it , rather than the chances of my child get cancer and suffer horribly i have had to watch my parents go through it and its not pretty .
I would feel terrible if it did happen and i could have prevented but didnt because of paranoia surrounding vaccines these days .







Loureen, just out of interest, did they tell you when you had the shot (or in the literatures) that you still had to continue with your pap smears?  I am just really interested, because my stepdaughter told me she didn't know that (ok, she's only young, and from what I gather had never had one anyway), but that bothered me, and I am just curious if they educate about this at the same time?









Yes , i was told to continue getting pap smears by my GP.






Better safe than sorry :)






My stepdaughter had hers through the program at school, and it worries me the girls haven't been told that the injection does not eliminate all types of cervical cancer, so they still need to have pap smears.  My stepdaughter didn't even really understand - as far as she was concerned she was immunised against "cervical cancer" not immunised against "HPV which is one of the causes of cervical cancer".  Obviously I sat her down and explained it (which really, her mother should have done), but she was totally ignorant about it all.

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Dear Lorraine, my 16 year old daughter started her series of Gardasil yesterday. The risks of catching hpv are 1 in 2. That is a 50-50 chance of getting this virus which does lead to cervical cancer each and every time a person has relations with someone. Our government is providing these vaccines for FREE to all persons under 18 years old. If you want to find out the real truth just go to STD statics in minor children- you will be shocked at how rapidly this is spreading and how young people are getting pre-cancerous conditions in there late teens and early twenties. p.s. my Mother is 62 years old and is losing her life to cervical cancer. A horrible way to go out my dear. Best wishes to you and your children. Tracy Martin Tanner

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Quoting Jodi:



Quoting Loureen:

Ive had my Gardisil shots , no side affects for me .

Of course your daughters may not be sexually active now but someday they will be and even if they only sleep with one person there is no guarantee of how many people their partner has slept with , it only takes ONE person to become infected and statistics show its very common .

50 % of sexually active women and men have HPV by the age of 50 , 80% of women have HPV .
HPV is the virus that causes cervical cancer , so unless you screen every boyfriend and track their every sexual activity previous to a relationship with your daughter you will never know what they have .

personally i would do it , rather than the chances of my child get cancer and suffer horribly i have had to watch my parents go through it and its not pretty .
I would feel terrible if it did happen and i could have prevented but didnt because of paranoia surrounding vaccines these days .





Loureen, just out of interest, did they tell you when you had the shot (or in the literatures) that you still had to continue with your pap smears?  I am just really interested, because my stepdaughter told me she didn't know that (ok, she's only young, and from what I gather had never had one anyway), but that bothered me, and I am just curious if they educate about this at the same time?





Yes , i was told to continue getting pap smears by my GP.



Better safe than sorry :)

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The Gardasil vaccine does not fully protect everyone and does not prevent all types of Cervical cancer. It has been stated that the vaccine only helps protect against 4 types of human pappilomavirus of which there are 30.

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Everyone has to chose for them self! My only concern is what are the real long term affects? You can't believe everything you hear and it seems that everyday another medicine is being pulled off the market! I have two girls and I am dreading the day we have to decide! My cancer would not have been prevented by the shot, so who is to say they get one that is!!!!! Good luck!

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Quoting Heather:



Okay this is a little silly and one sided.  As a mom who did ALOT of research and saw ALOT of studies on the effects of these vaccines.  There is alot of info that people do not have because a medical doctor will not tell you that prove that vaccines are NOT as great as some may feel.  Have you ever read the list of ingredients of what goes into each injection? it is way more than a small piece of the virus. And what people do not realize is these vaccines, and medications for that matter are not test very much at all before they are releases and talked up by the company that produces it. They only need a very low percentage rate before being released. Why do you think you see so many medications being taken off the market now a days  and the most important thing that most people forget while bashing those of us who have decides for our families to not have vaccines is that VACCINES DO NOT GARRENTEE YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU ARE BEING VACCINATED FOR.






I beleive that every one has the right to make their own choice on to have or not to have vaccines. Because I choise not to put toxins such in my families vodies does not mean I want people to be sick. That it a little harsh. There are many people who never have vaccines and never get sick other that a common cold. But people have a right to their opinion and we should be adult and respect those rights.





I'm sorry but that's just not correct. Medications are tested for years before they are ever even tried on humans. Some things slip through that shouldn't but on the whole most medications are safe for the general population. Vaccines do not guarantee that you will not get what you're being vaccinated for...but it's better than nothing. And the stuff they put in vaccines is filtered through our body and usually (unless you have a reaction to an ingredient) doesn't affect most people. We put worse crap in our bodies every day just by eating take out and driving cars and breathing. 

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Quoting Joy:

Just teach abstinence and fidelity and forget the vaccine. Government shouldn't be sticking their noses into your business anyway by sending home notes from school about vaccines.


Sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make this go away. As for the lady who said that Gardasil doesn't prevent cervical cancer...yes it does. Just not ALL TYPES of cervical cancer. 

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I was hesitate about my daughter who is 17 and not active getting it but I thought about the neg of her not having it. The good out weigh the bad. She took the shot and she hasn't had any problems. I think you should get your daughters the shots. You never know what might happen. They don't have to be sexually active. What god forbid they get molested and the person is infected. You can prevent your daughters from this terrible disease. I hope I've been a help. Sol. Pam

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Quoting Sharon:



Quoting Pamela:

I will be quite honest and say that I have always been against injections because all that they do is to actually give you a small dose of whatever the disease is, supposedly in a low enough dosage to give your body a chance to build immunities. To me that is a very poor idea.

Not everyone's body is going to be exposed to a cancer risk and the fact that the medical community? is going into high schools and suggesting this SMACKS of self-righteousness on their parts! Who knows, they could simply be using this population of young women as "guine4s pigs" for their own reasons. I would NOT TRUST this "jab".






You're against erradicating polio?  Measles?  Mumps?  Rubella?  You're against saving lives?  I guess children hobbling around on crutches and swaying awkwardly is just a funny sight for some people.






 






The way a vaccine works is how it works.  That is WHY it works.  Instead of getting full blown chicken pox - you get it mildly - if at all, you don't suffer as much, you don't scar as badly and now you will most likely never get it again and if you are male - it means you will most likely NOT BE STERILIZED by catching the pox as an adult.  DAMN screw that - its the best way to fix a man!  Lets give them all the pox!!!






 






To condemn vaccines completely & utterly is ludicrous.  God forbid we should stop children from dying.  Hell no we don't want that!!!  Babies in coffins are CUTE!!!  Geezus christ. 






 






THAT said - this vaccine worries me.  Because it is new.  Because of some reports that women have become ill after getting the shot.  Yes that worries me.  My daughter isn't old enough to worry about it yet so I haven't done an indepth research on it.  In 7 years - the vaccine will be older, better tested, proven, etc.






 






I wouldn't be any happier if this had been developed for boys as my oldest is 14 yrs old.  But damn a vaccine against STDs - any std - is awesome.






 






Hey!!  When the vaccine for AIDS is developed - lets all ignore it and laugh and point fingers at the idiots who get it!!  YAY!!





Okay this is a little silly and one sided.  As a mom who did ALOT of research and saw ALOT of studies on the effects of these vaccines.  There is alot of info that people do not have because a medical doctor will not tell you that prove that vaccines are NOT as great as some may feel.  Have you ever read the list of ingredients of what goes into each injection? it is way more than a small piece of the virus. And what people do not realize is these vaccines, and medications for that matter are not test very much at all before they are releases and talked up by the company that produces it. They only need a very low percentage rate before being released. Why do you think you see so many medications being taken off the market now a days  and the most important thing that most people forget while bashing those of us who have decides for our families to not have vaccines is that VACCINES DO NOT GARRENTEE YOU WILL NOT GET WHAT YOU ARE BEING VACCINATED FOR.



I beleive that every one has the right to make their own choice on to have or not to have vaccines. Because I choise not to put toxins such in my families vodies does not mean I want people to be sick. That it a little harsh. There are many people who never have vaccines and never get sick other that a common cold. But people have a right to their opinion and we should be adult and respect those rights.

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Quoting Lorraine:

Cervical Cancer Jab

Hi all, as a mum of older children i am hoping i can get some feedback on this subject. I have three girls aged 15, 13 and 11 and three weeks ago my two eldest brought letters home from their high school about the hpv immunisation. Now i was 30 when i had my eldest so i can remember how bad illnesses like measles, rubella, polio and mumps etc really are (immunisation came out in the 70's which was too late for me and my sister) so I was determined that my children would have the immunisations and i have never hesitated in the past to give my consent for them to have whatever injections they needed to defeat diseases. I filled in the consent forms for the hpv vaccination and they are due to have their first one sometime over the next two weeks, but of course there has been that report on the tv this morning about that poor girl dying. So do i ignore the risks and let them have the injection that could save their lives in the future or should i withdraw my consent and risk them catching the hpv virus in the future. I would appreciate some feedback as to what other mums would do. Thanks, Lorraine



I had to have a radical hysterectomy for cervical cancer after my second son was only 9 months old.  I had to have someone care for him and his older (2 yr) brother while I had the surgery and went through recovery.  I don't want to see another female have to go through what I did.  I highly recommend this preventive measure. 

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Personally, I have to say that I'm starting to regret not getting the vaccine myself. I had a chance to about a couple years ago when I was 19. I have a 4 month old son now and last month, I had to get what is called a colposcopy which is where they take a biopsy of your cervix and give you a pap test to check if you have cervical cancer. Luckily, because of my having a child and then wanting to get an I.U.D. for birth control, they had to do a pap test before they could place it and that's when they realized they needed to do further tests and found out that I don't have any cancerous cells right now, but I will have to go back in about 3 months to get checked again. Then if they find anything they can fight it right away and it won't have a chance to get to the point where I don't have much of a chance. I'm not saying this to scare you into giving them the vaccinations. I think that you should sit down w/your daughters and discuss everything w/them, the risks, the benefits, and any questions they may have and come to a decision together. After all, it's their bodies. Good luck.

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Dear Lorraine, this of course has been discussed alot recently in our home. I have a 14 year old daughter and she will not be receiving the vaccine. I am not comfortable with it because there may be side effects later that no one planned on. I dont see what the rush is for young girls unless they are sexually active. I told my daughter if she plans to have more than one sex partner, she can get the vaccine herself later.

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The HPV vaccine has NOT been proven to prevent cervical cancer. It has NOT BEEN PROVEN! It has, however, made many girls very sick, debilitated and killed girls too. I have daughters and would not dare inject them with mercury, formaldehyde, dead chicken embryos, and dozens of other subtances that people have no clue how it affects biological factors. It has not been tested long enough to know. Our daughters are the test population and we should be fighting mandatory HPV vaccinations instead of each other. The whole "I had one and nothing happened" statement is only half true because it has not been long enough or enough people to know the long term affects.



And that girl died from complications from the vaccine, not the growth in her chest.

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hi lorraine, my youngest daughter who's 13 had the jab last year with the 3rd one begining of this year... she and all of her year group had the jab without any reported side effects... my 16 year old is yet 2 have hers but i will b encouraging her to have it..... today's reports confirmed that the poor child who had died after the jab had a tumour in her chest and it is almost certain that the jab did not cause her death.... please if u r worried then go and ask a doctor 2 give ur children health checks b4 they have the jabs and talk over ur concerns with them.... o and my daughter said they hurt :0)..... good luck x

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Just teach abstinence and fidelity and forget the vaccine. Government shouldn't be sticking their noses into your business anyway by sending home notes from school about vaccines.

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on todays news it was released that the girl involved had a rare form of a tumer and this is why she died it could have happened at any time it is just co-incidental that it happened straight after hpv vaccination....... but do look watch news before makin your decision.....

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Hello..I am really surprised that they are offering the HPV vaccine in school now days. I am a parent of a 14 year that is not sexually active either. After reading literature and asking some doctors questions, I have learned that this vaccination does not prevent all types of the HPV virus. This virus is usually obtained by individuals who have multiple sex partners. There has not been enough research for me in order to allow my daughter to receive the vaccination.

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I have had these shots as well with no side effects at all. It doesn't prevent from all types of HPV just the most common. I would recommend getting these shots. Just like every drug/vaccine out there side effects can happen but they are usually in a small group. This drug hasn't been out there for a really long time but HPV wasn't as common a long time ago either.

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Quoting Loureen:

Ive had my Gardisil shots , no side affects for me .

Of course your daughters may not be sexually active now but someday they will be and even if they only sleep with one person there is no guarantee of how many people their partner has slept with , it only takes ONE person to become infected and statistics show its very common .

50 % of sexually active women and men have HPV by the age of 50 , 80% of women have HPV .
HPV is the virus that causes cervical cancer , so unless you screen every boyfriend and track their every sexual activity previous to a relationship with your daughter you will never know what they have .

personally i would do it , rather than the chances of my child get cancer and suffer horribly i have had to watch my parents go through it and its not pretty .
I would feel terrible if it did happen and i could have prevented but didnt because of paranoia surrounding vaccines these days .


Loureen, just out of interest, did they tell you when you had the shot (or in the literatures) that you still had to continue with your pap smears?  I am just really interested, because my stepdaughter told me she didn't know that (ok, she's only young, and from what I gather had never had one anyway), but that bothered me, and I am just curious if they educate about this at the same time?

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