circumcision

Kristy - posted on 02/13/2010 ( 206 moms have responded )

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Hi im from Australia and gave birth to a boy on friday 13th November and am unsure about circumcision. I want to weigh up all the pros and cons associated with it. My partner is circumcised but no male members in my family are? Does it have any health benefits? Or should I just let him choose when he is older?

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Sarah - posted on 02/17/2010

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I got my son circumized in the hospital after he was born. I heard that you really have to make sure you clean the penis if it is not circumized. I don't really know that's what I heard. My hubby is circumcized so we had it down to our son. My mom didn't agree with my decision and asked me why would I want to put my baby through that pain. My son is almost five and he doesn't have any trauma or anything from the experience. Good luck!

Julie - posted on 02/17/2010

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This is a really hard decision to make, I have two sons and have had them both circumcised and do not regret it one bit. I don't think people should tell you that you should or shouldn't get it done, it is up to you to read all the views and decide for yourself. I have not had a problem with the boys feeling different to other boys at all. My second son was due to be circumcised and about two months prior he had an infection in his penis. It was very sore for him and needed a course of antibiotics to get rid of it. It really depends on what you and your partner want, don't let people tell you it is wrong to do it, or that you should do it, it is no-one's business but your own, just make an informed decision.

Pamela - posted on 02/17/2010

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I have 3 sons and all were circumsized shortly after birth, but if I had to do it again, I would not circumsize them. It is mainly a Jewish tradition that has become widely accepted. However, if you are willing to clean your son's penis thoroughly while he is an infant and then teach him how to care for himself as he gets older, I would encourage you to do so.

Circumcision actually REDUCES the sensitivity experienced during the sexual act and that is the main reason it is done. Though I have not, to date, had sex with an uncircumsized male, I do wish to experience such. Good luck in making your choice.
Please remember that LUCK Is Laboring Under Correct Knowledge!

Leslie - posted on 02/17/2010

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I can share some personal experiences with you from the boys/men in my family. when I had my first 2 boys - circumcision was not the norm here in Canada. So we opted to not have them done, the Dr. stressed that cleanliness and training the boys to look after themselves as they began to bathe on their own was crucial but, that provided they did that, there was no need for the circ. My father in law at the time was really upset that we didn't have them done - as he had gone for many many years with alot of pain during intercourse once he was grown. However, I suspect it was because his folks perhaps didn't know how to teach him to deal with things properly -. Now my 2 eldest boys were both upset with my decision to leave them intact and one has had it done as an adult - (their upset was purely cosmetic) the surgery though as an adult was not pleasant - - my second husband had it done as an adult and it was unpleasant -
my youngest was done at birth and he is the only one that has no complaints -

Tina - posted on 02/17/2010

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If you don't do it now sometimes they have to get it later in life and from what I hear it's no walk in the park. Do it girl you don't want him to suffer from it later.

Kerri - posted on 02/17/2010

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Hey Kristy. My boyfriend and I went through and research alot on this and we found that really sure theres no "medical" reason to have it done anymore, but I have know a few moms that didnt get there son done, and had to have it done when they were 4-5. They're more likely to remember getting it done and it hurts ALOT more. When my son had his done the doctor took him back (i couldn't watch lol) but brought him back like 10-15mins later and said that he didn't even cry. If you do deside to have it make sure you get some vasline and make sure you keep that on his little manly part while its healing! And by the way the whole time it was healing he only cried once. And now hes nine months and not having any problems with it at all.

Cassandra - posted on 02/17/2010

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Oh, and as for the procedure itself, it wasn't bad at all. Yes he was strapped down, and that was the only reason why he was crying. I was by his head the whole time talking to him but once the freezing took place, he was fine. My sister also had all 4 of her boys done and it was the same thing. As long as you're there and soothing him, all should be fine. If he has to be asleep, he's not going to feel anything at all!! Back in the day, when boys got circumcised, they used no anesthetic...that I would consider child abuse!!

Our son was going to have it done and it was a good thing because when the doctor started the procedure, he said that if we didn't have it done now, he would have had to get it done later on in life which would have been more traumatizing to him.

Cassandra - posted on 02/17/2010

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Hi Kristy, I gave birth to a boy on the 13th of November as well and I got him circumcised right away. The doctors here in Canada will only do it within the first 7 days of being born. After the 7 days, you need to book the OR and he would have had to be put under for the procedure. We didn't want to put him to sleep for this procedure so we did it asap. He healed very quickly with no complications. Unless your son has to have it done, I would hold of in case of complications with the anesthetic. That was our worries. If the procedure could not have been done in the first few days, he wasn't getting done at all. However, you should talk to your doctor about this and if you decide to go through with it, don't wait too much longer!

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As an RN, I have assisted with a number of circumcisions and can tell you I believe it is child abuse. The infant is tied down in 4 point restraints. He screams and cries continuously just from being tied down, but once the procedure starts, it is worse. Even if the MD uses a little lidocaine injection to numb the area, that stings badly and the baby continues to scream as he feels his little appendage being tugged and cut. It is horrific. I am happy to say that none of my grandsons are circumsized after I only had daughters. If you aren't Jewish, what is the point?

Melissa - posted on 02/17/2010

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No! My husband wanted our son to be circumcised and I agreed to it...before I watched a video of a baby that screamed the entire time. It is so cruel to tie these babies down and cut them up with no medication at all. The baby I saw the video of was crying so bad his lungs started to fill with fluid. I wish I would have seen that video before my son was born because I would have NEVER put him through anything like that. I feel so wrong as a parent every single day for allowing his father to make the decision to do that to him just because he was as a baby.

Nicole - posted on 02/17/2010

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I am also facing the same dilemma and after doing alot of research we have decided not to circumcize our son (due in a week). You can find scientific articles on both sides of the debate, but many of the health risks associated with circumcising are already so rare (e.g., serious kidney infections in infancy and invasive cancer of the penis in middle and old age) and research on HIV prevention and transmission of STDs (Chlamydia infection, human papilloma virus (HPV), syphilis, chancroid and herpes simplex) has been done primarily on populations in sub-saharan Africa and the stats are also quite misleading. There are reports of a 50-60% less likely rate to transmit HIV when uncircumcised (in Kenya, Uganda, etc.) , but when you look closer at the numbers they tell I different story (i.e., 40 v 20 getting HIV out of treatment and control groups each consisting of 1300 or so). So for us the health benefits didn't really stand up to scrutiny. Also, socially speaking the geographic variability in the practice of circumcision is quite wide - about 33% of boys in the west, 50% in the southwest versus 85% in the midwest are circumcised. Considering we live in the southwest we figured he will be in equal company if circumcised or not. Given all that I've said I still think it is a totally personal decision and there are pros and cons on either side. Good luck with your decision - and more importantly with your new bundle of joy!

Emily - posted on 02/17/2010

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Yes, lower rates of STDs and HIV if your child is practicing unsafe sex. I don't know about you, but I'd rather teach my son to use condoms rather than relying on a circumcision to save him from STDs.

Evelyn - posted on 02/17/2010

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Our pediatrician said there are definitely health benefits, research shows lower rates of STDs and Aids. For me it was also a cleanliness issue. My husband also is. So our decision wasn't hard. There are many men deciding to get it done now and I would think it's a lot easier when they are babies! The sooner you do it the better!

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I have a four year old son and when I found out I was having a baby boy the very first thought that came to mind was the pros and cons of circumcision. We had our little guy circumcised at 7 days old; I have no regrets and feel that we made the right choice. This seems to be a very controversial subject; it is unfortunate because as mothers we face so many tough choices to make.



I know many mothers who have opted NOT to circumcise and that is their choice; however a few have ended up in emergency rooms due to infections. Good luck with your decision but whatever the decision is, it is yours and your husbands decision. If you do decide to get it done, I would advise getting it done ASAP so he does not have to deal with the surgical procedure later on in life.



Good tip for healing process is after each cleaning, my doctor advised to make sure the circumcised site is always dry; use a blow-dryer on low warm setting and blow dry the area until dry, use a little polysporin and you are golden:)

Casey - posted on 02/17/2010

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We got our boy done when he was almost 3 months old. Both myself and my partner have Jewish backgrounds and almost all males on both sides are done, so we always knew our son would be done. It is better to get it done when they are little, he took about 2 weeks to heal. He was fine and didn't seem to be in too much discomfort. If you teach your son to clean it right there shouldn't be a problem if he is not circumcised. So the choice is yours but for us having our son "look" like Daddy was important. The Doctor who did our son put a local in so the area was numb and he was asleep during the surgery so it not affect him. Which was s o good for us, I couldn't bare to see my boy in pain and he wasn't - it was only during the post op care that he cried because we had to clean it. But as soon as he got a cuddle and a boob he was fine and went to sleep.

Cherish - posted on 02/16/2010

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On my youngest son we paid for the surgury since it is now considered cosmetic and because he was a big baby his penis pulled in a little and cause the part where the foreskin was cut to heal itself to the head of his penis. We had to keep applying petroleum gel and pull it away/apart a little at a time to avoid another surgery. He is fine now. Thank god I knew something was wrong although the doc said he would be fine.

Cherish - posted on 02/16/2010

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First off, its probably too late for this response, but I know that there are health risks when and if an uncircumcised penis isn't cleaned enough, I also know that most woman I have spoke with feel being with a man who is not is gross, and doing the circumcision later is costly and painful. The foreskin makes the penis more sensitive, which can be more enjoyable, but also cause premature ejaculation and over sensitivity too. Have you spoke with a pediatrician yet?

Claudia - posted on 02/16/2010

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Of course there are risks, there are risks to everything in life. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. There are countless risks to getting pregnant & giving birth in the first place. Does that stop us from doing it? Saying that teaching a boy how to clean himself ensures that everything will be okay simply isn't so. Having worked in Health Care, I have heard so many boys, teens, men, & elderly saying, through tears, how they wished they had been done at birth. My docs let me hold my baby boys while they were done so I could talk to them and sooth them. Sure they cried, but no worse than with a shot. They did not scream & carry on & it was over very quickly. There was nothing "horrific" about it. (In my opinion, piercing a baby girls' ears is barbaric.) The older men are, the more painful it is and with someone who is already elderly & sick it can take a long time to heal & infections these days can be deadly. Sometimes people can get a bit carried away with their " beliefs." They make women who had an epidural feel like a failure. I never had one, but if you want one- go for it! I was so afraid of the bottle after listening to the "Breast Only" stuff, I endured nipples that were cracked & bleeding & felt like a failure when I began using a bottle. The rest of my 6 kids had both. It's the same thing with circumcision. People formulate radical opinions and close their minds. We all need to relax a bit about this stuff.

Krista - posted on 02/16/2010

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Your baby if he is like most little ones his age will want to look just like his father. All of my boys would notice if thier penis looked diff. than thier dads. I would have it done


Um...how much time are your boys spending looking at their dad's pecker? I just find it incredibly weird to put your kid through surgery so that their body part looks more like their parent's. If I have a girl and after puberty, she's small-breasted, should I get her implants so that her boobs look more like Mommy's?

Miranda - posted on 02/16/2010

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I think the benefit of getting a little boy circumsised is it is easier to keep it clean because there is no skin covering. But to me if you teach a little boy properly they should have no problem. Do research on it and ask your pediatrician. What does your husband want? If we were to have had a little boy he would not have been circumsised.

Sheena - posted on 02/16/2010

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An answer to your question, do as much research as possible. Watch an actual procedure of a newborn baby being circumcised. It is horrific! It made me cry for weeks, considering I had my son circumcised because that's what seemed like the "norm". What they also don't tell you is that sometimes the doctor can cut either too much or too little foreskin, causing painful problems for the child for the rest of his life. Also, the American Academy of Pediatrics (a very well-known and respected group) no longer recommends routine circumcision. They have found it unnecessary for health reasons and consider it strictly a "cosmetic procedure".

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hi, I'm from a culture where all males are circumcised. My partner is not from the same culture, but he is circumcised (for medical reasons). Now we're planning on circumcising our son, and one of the reasons is for hygiene. We're just waiting till our son turns 2 or 3

Sheree - posted on 02/16/2010

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I agree with Jess Lynn and Tracey Astill. the only thing I will add is, you wouldn't even consider doing it to your daughter, so why do it to your son? People say its not the same thing, it is. Its still a very painful and unnessary procedure. For people doing it for cleanliness teach your little guy how to wash properly, you teach them how to wash the rest of their bodies.

Claudia - posted on 02/15/2010

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Yes, the sooner, the better. The best time is when they are just over 1 week old.
In recent years, I have been working taking care of the elderly. When old men cannot care for themselves properly they can get terrible infections. Circumcision when elderly and already in pain with age associated problems is terrible! It's really no big deal for babies. I had 5 boys.

Missy - posted on 02/15/2010

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I am a mother of 3 boys, 5 months,11 yrs & 13 yrs. None are circumcised. I decided that I would just teach them how to clean themselves right and make sure they do it in their daily shower. Circumcision is painful PERIOD they just don't remember when it's done as an infant. I use to work in a doctors office and have been traumatized ever since I heard a baby screaming at the top of his lungs during and after the procedure :( I decided that if I had boys that I would NEVER do that to them...we already have to put them through immunization shots.

Stephanie - posted on 02/14/2010

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circumcisions can actually be done shortly after birth. Both of my sons are and my husband isn't. My hisband has never had any problems but my sons both had phimosis and we circumcised due to that. Non of my nephews are circumcised and have no problems. as far as cleanliness, anyone is only as clean as they learn how to be. If you don't circumcise, teach your son to clean himself. If you do, get it done ASAP, so that he won't remember and it will be easier to care for the site without a toddler crying and running around

Cynthia - posted on 02/14/2010

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with our first son we decided to wait and he got a very bad infection (how do you keep their little area clean??!!) that he had to get circumcised, and that was way wost than if we had had him circumcised before we left the hospital ( oh yea our son was 1yrs old when all this happened) after that we had all our boys circumcised right away.

Jennifer - posted on 02/14/2010

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Your baby if he is like most little ones his age will want to look just like his father. All of my boys would notice if thier penis looked diff. than thier dads. I would have it done

Tamsin - posted on 02/14/2010

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hhhhhmmmmm its a hard one!!!!! just go with what you and your hubb think - they can always be "like daddy" ?????? just let your hubby decide!!!! lol

Jannelle - posted on 02/14/2010

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Hi Kirsty,
I have a 7 yr old son and wouldnt have even thought about having him circumcised, the majority of boys these days are not done so the ones that are it can be an issue for them, as they are different to the others. The only issue we had was teaching him to pull the foreskin back when he had an erection or urinating, but this is recommended to loosen the skin from about age 4.
Good luck and the final desicion is yours but if u do go ahead with the procedure i wouldnt leave it to much longer.

Leanne - posted on 02/14/2010

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hi there before i had my son i always said i would get him done when my son was 4 weeks old he had his done, all the other baby boys were younger than my son and seem to handle it ok my son did not he was too old at that age,as he got older i thought having him done would stop the infections as alot of people would say my son had about 3 if i had to do all over again i would maybe think twice about doing it

Hayley - posted on 02/14/2010

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here here Tracey! And Dr. Schoen who was mentioned in another post link has been criticised by his own collegues for his push for circumsicion. They all think his information is incorrect and misleading. It's like Autism...there was that one doctor who claimed it was caused by the MMR immunisation and he scared the life out of parents who then stopped the immunisations with dire consequences for some. They found he was a fraud and that's the same with lots of the circumsicion info out there. Lots of false statements by 'expert doctors'. I agree with Tracey, do lots of research.

Hayley - posted on 02/14/2010

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Liza Gardner...if that's not a sign to not have it done i dont know what is. I feel for your poor little boy and for you having to make that decision AGAIN. Best of luck with that one.

Sneaky - posted on 02/14/2010

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If you want advice: Don't do it! It is actually BANNED in most public hospitals in Aus:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/hea...

and you will have a hell of a time finding a dr willing to do it anyway because there is a new push to determine the actual legality of it (most dr's won't do it when their patients might grow up and decide to sue them):

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-...

The first time I got pregnant I researched the pros and cons and I was HORRIFIED at all misinformation out there but the facts break down to this:

circumcision rates (depending on who you believe) are between 5-20% in Aus . . your boy will NOT be teased in school if he is not circumcised.

It is not 'cleaner'. Like a vagina it is pretty much self cleaning and if another mother tells you it is difficult to teach a boy how to clean it then she obviously has no experience with penises (that is MY opinion obviously).

A medical circumcision will remove the whole foreskin . . .which contains about 75% of all the special tingly nerve endings in the penis. If you circumcise your boy he will only ever be capable of achieving one quarter of the orgasm that he was born capable off :o(

The risks associated with circumcision (bleeding, infection, death, unintentional mutilation and healing incorrectly) are all statistically more likely than the probability that your son will ever experience trauma or a medical issue that will require him to need one at a later stage.

And no you do not have to believe me :o) I beg you to do your own research, there are thousands of websites both pro and con - the only thing to really notice is that when you are on a 'pro' website there will not be many (if any) reference or links to corroborate claims, on a 'con' website you will find links to the Australian Cancer Council (which states quite strongly that circumcision does NOT reduce the risk of any type of cancer) and the Australian Medical Board which came out officially in 2002 to state that there was NO medical reason for a boy to be medically circumcised at birth.

It's a touchy subject, so good on you for doing your research! One last thing to think about - In most of the UK and Europe male circumcision is actually considered just as horrible as female circumcision and is frowned upon quite strongly (with the exception of religious circumcision, which is a completely different procedure), it is really only the US were it is considered routine still.

Hope this helps!

Hayley - posted on 02/14/2010

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I suggest education is best here. Educate yourself on how to clean it and educate your son as he grows. Honestly with all the naturalists out there these days it's become a bit of a frowned at thing to do...think of it this way, would you have liked your mother to have had you circumcised? Girls are too you know. And how horrific is that to think about. Well imagine how it could be for your son. Yes many do have it done but maybe it should be the childs choice as they grow older. My Uncle choose to have it done in his 30's. No problems with healing or any serious medical issues to inspire his decision, just chose to do it and was extremely happy to know he was able to make the choice on his own and that the choice wasnt taken away from him. I couldn't imagine my mum having my nipple cut off say, only to never have it grow back again! I think it's a serious issue and most experts seem to think it is unneccesary if the boy is trained to care for his body correctly.

Emily - posted on 02/14/2010

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It's not medically necessary. Mother Nature put the foreskin there for a reason.

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doing it because the father is, is not a good reason to do it.... check out www.nocirc.org and watch the video, ITS LIKE TORTURE! It doesn't matter how old they are it is still going to HURT! Its not easier to keep cleaner, it DOES NOT keep away STDs, it is not a health issue. Im glad you decided to ask about it, but look into how it is done. I would not want my baby to suffer like that for any reason....
www.nocirc.org

Cayla - posted on 02/13/2010

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I had my son circumcised. his father was not and he didnt like the fact. i read into it and many things i read said it was more sanitary and would keep away infections and that it is eayer to keep baby boy clean if you dont have to worry bout pullin back the skin chance of hurting him and all that. im expecting another lil boy and i plan on havein him circumcised and my husband who is agrees.

MORGAN - posted on 02/13/2010

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I circumcised my 13 yr old, because then it was just what you did, plus his father was. However my husband now is not, so I chose not to with my 3yr old and 20 month old. Uncircumcised child are getting more popular now a days. My friends son was hospitalized for 3 days with complications from his circumcision. But I believe that a son should look like his father if the father is in the picture that way when hes older hes not wondering why he doesnt look like his dad.

Rachael - posted on 02/13/2010

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hello i too am in OZ and just had a baby boy 25th dec 09 (yes i know bad timing) i am considering circumcision its better for health benifits and there is a higher risk of infection if its not cleaned properly as a baby somtimes when poo gets round the front it can get insde foreskin you cannot pull the foreskin back to clean at young age so it can get infected also if you partner is circumcised he may not know how to teach him to clean it properly and toilet training can also be an issue do you want to answer the question when your son wonders why his is different??? they are the reasons i am doing it hope this helps they say it only hurts them for a couple of mins and they are not going to remember it its hurts a lot more when they get older

Jennifer - posted on 02/13/2010

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I went with both of my sons when they were done. I felt that if I was going to put them through this pain, I would be there for them...honestly I know that it must have hurt, but they were more upset being in the little board that keeps them from moving... as soon as it was done the doctor handed them back to me... I held them and comforted them and they calmed down in a few minutes.. I did not do this for a cosmetic procedure...There was a little bit of bleeding... but no screaming and bleeding in obvious distress...MAKE sure that if you do go ahead and do it that you get a doctor that knows what he is doing..both my boys were premature and I was nervous because they were so little everywhere, but the doctor that took care of them was wonderful and there was no issues and there are still no issues.. no infections

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Hi Kristy, im from Qld too and it can be really hard to even find a doctor here who will do it, especially if you live in a remote area.



Personally if I had a son, I wouldn't be having it done. As a cosmetic procedure I think males have the right to make that decision themselves. Its never even a consideration with our girls, so why should it be any different for our boys. I know some peopl say they want their son to look like his dad, but I don't think that justifies such a cruel procedure.



I have read posts on here from mum's who babies have had the skin pulled back after it grew back and how their little babies were bleeding and screaming in pain. Just doesn't seem fair to me !

Mary - posted on 02/13/2010

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i have 3 boys my oldest who is 11 is not circumcised his dad isn't an no male on his dad's side of the family is but my 4 year old and my 1 year old are, they have a different father and he is circumcised and was adamant about it so even though i didn't really want it done i agreed, now with my oldest there have been issues with keeping it clean, because he's not circumcised when he was about 7 he started having pain and infection because he was not cleaning properly and didn't want me to help him, he's fine now, with my other 2 so far there has been no issiues, but it should be done in the first week according to my doctor if not it has to be done when they are older it can be more painful and unlike a new bprn they usually have to be put to sleep while it's done

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I had my boys circumcized only because their dad was. Good luck!!!

Lana - posted on 02/13/2010

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When we had our first son (we have three), we had chosen to circumcise. I asked the doctor her opinion and she said "if for no other reason, I have had to do 3 yr old boys and it is tramatic; even worse when they are about 12". It is a preventative measure. All our boys have been done.

Ashley - posted on 02/13/2010

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To answer your question Liza sometimes they dont take enough skin off when the do a circumcision and they warned me when we got my sons cicumcision that there is a chance it could grow back. They also said that it shouldnt. They said what happens is they get a doctor who either has never done one or who hasnt done it in a while, and they dont take enough off. I would google it. But thats my answer to everything. I do extensive research before I do anything that effects my family.

Rachel - posted on 02/13/2010

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My son is 8 yrs old and was never circumsized and we have never had any problems with it, the only thing about a baby who is uncircumsized that I know from expierience is to keep it extra clean.

Jan - posted on 02/13/2010

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I wouldn't have it done. If you look the operation up on the internet you will be horrified. It's not necessary and it definitely comes with some risk.

Ashley - posted on 02/13/2010

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When I was researching circumcision on the internet, where as it used to only be a religious practice, more and more doctors are saying that its a health benefit in the long run.
http://www.medicirc.org/summary.html

Compelling medical data, much of it accumulated in the past 2 decades, have conclusively shown that a boy circumcised as a newborn has multiple lifetime health advantages compared to one with an “intact” foreskin. These include protection against serious kidney infections in infancy, sexually transmitted infections (STIs) including human immunodeficiency (HIV) infections, Chlamydia infection, human papilloma virus (HPV), syphilis, chancroid and herpes simplex in young men, and invasive cancer of the penis in middle and old age. In addition, all through life uncircumcised males are more susceptible to penile infections (balanoposthitis) and a variety of skin disorders of the penis such as eczema and psoriasis, as well as more difficulty maintaining good hygiene. About 1% of boys are born with only a pinpoint opening at the tip of the foreskin (phimosis) preventing retraction, leading to painful erections, and requiring future circumcision, at a time when the procedure is more difficult, risky and costly. Further, women sexual partners of uncircumcised men with HPV infection are at significantly greater risk of developing cervical cancer.

My cousin was with a guy who was uncircumcised. In that particular instance it caused him great pain, which he had never felt before her, and it caused bleeding that was only explained by being uncircumcised. The doctor told him that it would be benefital for him to prevent cancer in his penis(not sure of the term) in the long run to go ahead and get circumcised. After his cirumcision he felt better than he had. I hope this helps!

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We went back and forth about it and decided to do it. We had our son circumcised when he was a few days old;however, we have noticed that something was not right at around 2. We thought he had an infection becasue his forskin would not go back up as far as it should and took him to the doc. and she kept saying that it was just because he was a little chubby baby. We didn't think so. We finally took him in again to a diff. doc. and he said that his forskin was grown back over his penis and now we have to do another circumcision! I am worried that this will be painful and he will remember. Have this happened to anyone?

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