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Lisa - posted on 12/29/2009

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To all the mothers who keep saying it didn't happen to your child(ren): What if it had? You can't take death back. It has happened to millions. No, no one knows what causes SIDS, but there are things that can be done to lessen the chance of it. That's right, you are lessening the chance when you don't smoke, don't put baby on their tummy to sleep, & don't put soft bedding in their crib. You are not stopping something or making it obsolete, you are just lessening the chances. We do it everyday, we try to keep our kids safe, so why would you not try to keep your baby safe if it 'might' happen, why would you not want to lessen the chances. The reason things are different then they used to be is because we have learned, new things have been thought of, new babies have died, new investigations have occurred. We are supposed to get smarter & grow, not stay where we are or go backwards. Things do change, but there are a lot of statistics that go along w/the fact that by doing specific things to reduce the chance of SIDS has reduced SIDS & that is what it is all about.

Anna - posted on 01/05/2010

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Yes I have whats called a breathable bumper and i love it. Its great for keeping body parts in the crib and has air holes in the event he rolls his face into it.

Dana - posted on 12/29/2009

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Quoting Jenna:

we were born to mothers who smoked and drank. our cribs were covered in led-based paint.....bumpers have been around for years. and honestly most babies are able to move their heads away if they can't breathe....just like us. i would rather take the chance of them rolling over and getting close to the bumper than to get an arm or leg or even head stuck between the matress or between bars! im old school. we are all fine...and do u realize how close and how much pressure it takes to suficate????



Yes and that's why SIDS and illnesses where much higher then too.

Tarah - posted on 12/28/2009

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I understand everyone saying they used them and their kids are fine but is it worth the risk what if your kid is the one it happens to???just because it didnt happen to everyone else doesnt mean it wont happen to someone.

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Sylvia - posted on 01/07/2010

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Nope. We didn't have a crib either, though ;^)

When my DD was a baby the latest recommendation was not to use bumpers because they impeded air circulation, or something. Also, I remember my little brother used to use his to climb out of the crib ;^)

Honestly, though, I didn't pay much attention because by that point we were co-sleeping full time anyway.

~Jennifer - posted on 01/05/2010

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Quoting Christina:

"And if I find something that doesn't make sense I'll point it out so the other person can enlighten everyone with their side"



Great----then  start a thread on the dangers of co-sleeping as you see them.  Your reply had nothing to do with the OP's question.



Stay on topic.



 

C. - posted on 01/05/2010

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"And if I find something that doesn't make sense I'll point it out so the other person can enlighten everyone with their side"

~Jennifer - posted on 01/05/2010

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Quoting Christina:

Isn't that nice, Jenn.. I don't just use it to argue. If someone has something to say about what I wrote, you're darn right I'm going to say something back, nice or not, depending on how they replied to me. That's just the way I am.. Saying something nice to me, I'm likely to do the same, attack me and I'll attack back. And if I find something that doesn't make sense I'll point it out so the other person can enlighten everyone with their side, other people do it too.



If you're attacked, I'll block the person that did it.....if you attack back, i'll block you too. On that note - Madeline never even mentioned your name.....



 



It's THAT simple.



Change tactics please.



I will not say this again.



Thank you.



 



Back on topic please, Ladies. 



State your ADVICE and move on.



 

C. - posted on 01/05/2010

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Isn't that nice, Jenn.. I don't just use it to argue. If someone has something to say about what I wrote, you're darn right I'm going to say something back, nice or not, depending on how they replied to me. That's just the way I am.. Saying something nice to me, I'm likely to do the same, attack me and I'll attack back. And if I find something that doesn't make sense I'll point it out so the other person can enlighten everyone with their side, other people do it too.

~Jennifer - posted on 01/05/2010

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Quoting Christina:

First of all.. What happened to the Reply W/ Quote button???

@Madilyn Messer, you CAN'T be serious!!!! Co-sleeping is just AS BAD as using a crib bumper!!!! It doesn't REDUCE the risk of SIDS at all!!!!! If anything, it INCREASES it!!!!!



Maybe the RWQ button disappeared for the people that constantly use it to argue with other members rather than just stating their opinion and moving on.......



 



who knows?



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C. - posted on 01/05/2010

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First of all.. What happened to the Reply W/ Quote button???

@Madilyn Messer, you CAN'T be serious!!!! Co-sleeping is just AS BAD as using a crib bumper!!!! It doesn't REDUCE the risk of SIDS at all!!!!! If anything, it INCREASES it!!!!!

Madilyn - posted on 01/05/2010

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I dont because I co-sleep. My baby is safer sleeping with me, reduces the risk of sids

Sarah - posted on 01/03/2010

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I did not use one for my firstborn because of the increase risk of SIDS, but I think for my 2nd I am going to get a breathable bumper. My daughter moved around so much I can't even think how many times she woke up crying in the night because her arms or legs were caught between the crib rails.

Heather - posted on 01/03/2010

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I use one and I have had no problems. My daughter is 1 yr old. When we lay her down for nap/beadtime she raps her arm around it and uses it like a "blankie". She was able to hold her head up at 4 months. I felt confident in using it.

Christi - posted on 01/02/2010

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I used mine the first few months, but the first sign of him moving around at night, I took it out. It came w/ the whole package so I didn't really lose any money. : )

Molissa - posted on 01/02/2010

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Yes I do use them. I had to because my son kept getting his hands stuck in the bars by accident. He was able to move around very easily and can breathe well. It's a well ventilated room. We do check on him constantly until we go to bed ourselves.

Cheri - posted on 01/02/2010

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Glad you son served. Research is based on the SIDS Recommendations and there are many mother's out there that have not have the success you have and would give anything to have a chance to follow the recommendations to save their child!!!!!

Alethia - posted on 01/02/2010

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i used one with the first two and it did nothing!! my baby boy still got his leg caught between the slats on the crib and i nearly had to break the crib apart to get his leg out!! we never used cribs again.

Maranda - posted on 01/02/2010

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I used crib bumpers for my first child but not my second. I didnt mind not using them for my second child because I could watch him from my bed to check on him periodically.

Stacey - posted on 01/01/2010

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Quoting Jenna:

we were born to mothers who smoked and drank. our cribs were covered in led-based paint.....bumpers have been around for years. and honestly most babies are able to move their heads away if they can't breathe....just like us. i would rather take the chance of them rolling over and getting close to the bumper than to get an arm or leg or even head stuck between the matress or between bars! im old school. we are all fine...and do u realize how close and how much pressure it takes to suficate????


Yes some of us were born to mothers who smoked and drank, unfortunately they didn't know any better. We also used to build our schools with asbestos and fry ourselves in the sun.Fortunately over the years we have all become a little more educated.



I am sure most babies are able to move their heads away if they cant breath but unfortunately some cant (or dont).



You say you are old school and I can appreciate that we can be a little over cautious with our children at times, but it is hard to ignore the advice given to us by the people who study and research SIDS. A baby's head should never be able to fit between the bars of a cot if your cot complies with safety standards and your cot mattress should fit very firmly in your cot to prevent your baby slipping between the mattress and the rails.



I am in no way judging anyones decision whether or not to use a cot bumper, we all love our children and do what we believe is right for them, it just really frustrates me when I hear people say " well our mothers did it and we survived"

C. - posted on 01/01/2010

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Quoting Lisa:

They increase the risk of SIDS as they are considered to be 'soft bedding' which a crib should be free of. The risk of a child dying is much greater than a bump on the head which has has not been known to cause death or serious injury. They have been outlawed in certain countries.


Crib bumpers originated to keep a baby's arms and legs from getting lodged between the spindles of a crib rail. Nowadays, it is more used for decoration, but if you have seen a lot of crib bumper pads, they are not soft enough to mask the baby's face, should their face ever be up against it. And if they are securely fastened against the crib, nice and tight, there shouldn't be a problem either. And yes, actually, some babies do end up bumping their head enough to cause damage or even death. And for the record, they have breathable crib bumpers.



This argument could also go along with parents that choose to have the softest mattress in their baby's crib.. I am sure there is at least one person on this thread that opposes using bumper pads, but they used the softest, most luxurious mattress they could find for their baby.. Guess what? That baby could sink right down in and suffocate!

C. - posted on 01/01/2010

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Quoting Lisa:

They increase the risk of SIDS as they are considered to be 'soft bedding' which a crib should be free of. The risk of a child dying is much greater than a bump on the head which has has not been known to cause death or serious injury. They have been outlawed in certain countries.


Crib bumpers originated to keep a baby's arms and legs from getting lodged between the spindles of a crib rail. Nowadays, it is more used for decoration, but if you have seen a lot of crib bumper pads, they are not soft enough to mask the baby's face, should their face ever be up against it. And if they are securely fastened against the crib, nice and tight, there shouldn't be a problem either. And yes, actually, some babies do end up bumping their head enough to cause damage or even death. And for the record, they have breathable crib bumpers.



This argument could also go along with parents that choose to have the softest mattress in their baby's crib.. I am sure there is at least one person on this thread that opposes using bumper pads, but they used the softest, most luxurious mattress they could find for their baby.. Guess what? That baby could sink right down in and suffocate!

C. - posted on 01/01/2010

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I am currently using a Pack'N'Play (long story), but back when we WERE using a crib, yes we did use the bumpers.. We used the ones that cam with my son's crib sets. As much as my son moves in his sleep, we have never once had a problem with them. Granted, the type of crib we were using didn't let the bumpers go all the way down to the mattress. They were about an inch and a half above the mattress, which was just enough room for him to get clean air should he be right on them while sleeping. And as long as 1) They are fastened well to the crib, meaning all ties are tied, and 2) you don't put your baby right against the bumper pad while they are in the crib (if they are old enough to crawl around in their sleep, they are old enough to move their head if they can't breathe).. Everything should be Ok.

Lea - posted on 01/01/2010

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I also didn't want to increase my baby's risk of SIDS, however, his arms and legs would flail in his sleep and bang into the bars, and even twist around and get stuck in the bars and he would wake up and scream and it drove me insane. I realized I had to do something about it and I did and the crib bumpers really helped him sleep and never had a problem with them.

Jackie - posted on 01/01/2010

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I did use them. However, my response might be a little different from most parents. For the most part it helped my kids to turn over and stop them from bumping their heads on the railings. But my real reason for using them is because I always had them in the room with me and it was more for privacy when I was having sex. Kind of like a curtain. Which kind of worked until they started to pull themselves up and look over them.

Cassie - posted on 01/01/2010

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I used crib bumpers. Never had an issue. Only when I didn't use them my son would get his leg stuck in the crib rales. I prefer the ones that are not limpy at all and preferably taller so they don't pull them down as easily.

Margaret - posted on 01/01/2010

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i used mine until my son started pulling himself up in his crib, after that it got given away. no need to help him escape the crib, or fall and break his neck.

Suzanne - posted on 01/01/2010

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We used a regular bumper until he could roll over, then we used breathable bumpers so he doesn't hit his head or get his legs/arms caught in the bars (which he did when we tried no bumpers) but there is no SIDS risk. They are great.

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I always used one and my children were always put to bed on their tummies. They are 18 and 14 now and all the rules have changed. I feel bumper pads are a personal preference...and requires some common sense with their usage.

Dana - posted on 01/01/2010

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Quoting Crystal:

ok so i only read about half of the replys and im sick of hearing about sids, thats not what the question was. so many of you ladies are arguing about sids. give it up and answer the womans question.

i used bumpers for my 2 year old. when he was born he was in his crib "without" the bumpers right from the start. but he ended up having seizures and needing to go back to the hospital when he was 5 days old. they advised us to get a bassinet because he was put on an apnea monitor so it was easier to keep him right by the bed. but when he got off that he was about 2 months old so we put him back in the crib. when he was old enough to roll around thats when i put the bumpers in because he kept hitting his head on the rails. as another mommy said i had it tucked in between the mattress and rails that way only about half of it was out. as he got older he started playing with it and moving it up and down the rails and thats when he really started getting his arms and legs stuck in the railing. so i ended up just taking it out for a few weeks. so he would stop playing with it. i put it back in after 4 nights in a row of him waking up twice or 3 times each night due to a limb being wedged in the bars. then i took it back out again when he was about 1 and a half because he was standing on it.

so it all depends on the mommy if you use one or not. our mission is to keep our children safe. and no one knows that better then a mommy. trust your instincts and honestly dont let all these mommys freaking out about sids scare you. mommy always knows best. just keep a close eye on your baby (90% of mommys to anyways) and it will all come to you on whats best for baby


The question was do you use them, why or why not.  The answers for many of these moms was No, because they can lead to SIDS.  Pretty cut and dry if you ask me. 

Crystal - posted on 01/01/2010

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ok so i only read about half of the replys and im sick of hearing about sids, thats not what the question was. so many of you ladies are arguing about sids. give it up and answer the womans question.

i used bumpers for my 2 year old. when he was born he was in his crib "without" the bumpers right from the start. but he ended up having seizures and needing to go back to the hospital when he was 5 days old. they advised us to get a bassinet because he was put on an apnea monitor so it was easier to keep him right by the bed. but when he got off that he was about 2 months old so we put him back in the crib. when he was old enough to roll around thats when i put the bumpers in because he kept hitting his head on the rails. as another mommy said i had it tucked in between the mattress and rails that way only about half of it was out. as he got older he started playing with it and moving it up and down the rails and thats when he really started getting his arms and legs stuck in the railing. so i ended up just taking it out for a few weeks. so he would stop playing with it. i put it back in after 4 nights in a row of him waking up twice or 3 times each night due to a limb being wedged in the bars. then i took it back out again when he was about 1 and a half because he was standing on it.

so it all depends on the mommy if you use one or not. our mission is to keep our children safe. and no one knows that better then a mommy. trust your instincts and honestly dont let all these mommys freaking out about sids scare you. mommy always knows best. just keep a close eye on your baby (90% of mommys to anyways) and it will all come to you on whats best for baby

Kathy - posted on 01/01/2010

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Sally, unless there is NO space between the bars on the crib the hands and feet can still fit thru them. Many babies have chubby little legs and yes they can get stuck, or if they go thru at an angle as well the baby might not know how to get it out. And for the bars to be close enough to meet standards here anyways they just have to be close enough that the head can't go through. We've got a VERY good crib, no drop down sides, because with all the troubles there have been with them I refuse to let my baby sleep in one.

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Quoting Sally:



Quoting Lisa:

To all the mothers who keep saying it didn't happen to your child(ren): What if it had? You can't take death back. It has happened to millions. No, no one knows what causes SIDS, but there are things that can be done to lessen the chance of it. That's right, you are lessening the chance when you don't smoke, don't put baby on their tummy to sleep, & don't put soft bedding in their crib. You are not stopping something or making it obsolete, you are just lessening the chances. We do it everyday, we try to keep our kids safe, so why would you not try to keep your baby safe if it 'might' happen, why would you not want to lessen the chances. The reason things are different then they used to be is because we have learned, new things have been thought of, new babies have died, new investigations have occurred. We are supposed to get smarter & grow, not stay where we are or go backwards. Things do change, but there are a lot of statistics that go along w/the fact that by doing specific things to reduce the chance of SIDS has reduced SIDS & that is what it is all about.






Well said. I can't believe that anyone would take the ris, and think that they know better than the scientists who have researched this sort of thing in great detail.






The statistics show that the rate of SIDS is decreasing, due to people following advice. Unfortunately it's not down to 0% and may never be, but it definitely won't be when people disregard the advice.






No-one is saying that every child whose parents smoke/use bumpers/co-sleep will die from SIDS, but the evidence shows it's MORE LIKELY.






To disregard the advice and make light of SIDS is a bit of a slap in the face to the parents who have lost children to SIDS.





You can take it as a slap in the face if you'd like, I almost lost a little brother to SIDS, I was 5 years old and I still remember bits and pieces of the battle to keep him alive. The BELIEVE these things can cause, or not doing/using them can reduce the risk, but in reality they really still do not know what causes SIDS. If a crib bumper is used corectly like some moms have described (down beside the matress so only the top of it is up) they are actually pretty safe, they don't block the air-flow, and babies aren't likely to get stuck under them. The biggest area's I've been told that make it a risk is having them up where baby can get stuck or where they can make the  baby breath in the gasses they've exhaled.

Rebecca - posted on 12/31/2009

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nope. we have a really nice crib set that came with them and a nice comforter but we can't use either. The only thing we have been able to use is the fitted sheet lol. we saved it for our second child so once we're done having kids we will be able to sell the set together. friends of ours use them and haven't had an issue but for me it worries the piss out of me. it increases the risk of SIDS and i don't need added stress in my life worrying about a bumper pad:)

Laura - posted on 12/31/2009

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i use them cuz my daughter (4months) likes to push her self around on her belly and i often wake up to her sideways or head in the corner lol, but we also have a crib that had a lower front then back so it has really good air flow.

Sally - posted on 12/31/2009

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Do the cots/cribs that you guys are having all these dramas with actually meet current safety standards??? In terms of getting arms, legs and heads stuck, this shouldn't be possible with appropriate, safe nursery furniture.



My son is the most active sleeper in the world. Within an hour of him going to sleep he can have rotated 180 degrees, be up the other end of the cot etc. But there's not way he could get any part of his body caught in the bars, between the side and the mattress etc, because his cot is deisgned to meet safety standards and is pulled slightly back from the wall.

Sally - posted on 12/31/2009

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Quoting Lisa:

To all the mothers who keep saying it didn't happen to your child(ren): What if it had? You can't take death back. It has happened to millions. No, no one knows what causes SIDS, but there are things that can be done to lessen the chance of it. That's right, you are lessening the chance when you don't smoke, don't put baby on their tummy to sleep, & don't put soft bedding in their crib. You are not stopping something or making it obsolete, you are just lessening the chances. We do it everyday, we try to keep our kids safe, so why would you not try to keep your baby safe if it 'might' happen, why would you not want to lessen the chances. The reason things are different then they used to be is because we have learned, new things have been thought of, new babies have died, new investigations have occurred. We are supposed to get smarter & grow, not stay where we are or go backwards. Things do change, but there are a lot of statistics that go along w/the fact that by doing specific things to reduce the chance of SIDS has reduced SIDS & that is what it is all about.



Well said. I can't believe that anyone would take the ris, and think that they know better than the scientists who have researched this sort of thing in great detail.



The statistics show that the rate of SIDS is decreasing, due to people following advice. Unfortunately it's not down to 0% and may never be, but it definitely won't be when people disregard the advice.



No-one is saying that every child whose parents smoke/use bumpers/co-sleep will die from SIDS, but the evidence shows it's MORE LIKELY.



To disregard the advice and make light of SIDS is a bit of a slap in the face to the parents who have lost children to SIDS.

Leanne - posted on 12/31/2009

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I haven't used them yet, my son is nine months old.. but im thinking of getting one. He hits his head and gets stuck between the bars every night! and if I do what one person said they did (put part of the bumper under the matress) then my son can't get stuck under the bumper.. So no issues. I would rather him have the bumper than risk him injuring a limb.

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The reason why the level of 'SIDS' deaths has lowered, is because they have parents so paranoid we are sterilising their worlds and watching/monitoring babies 24/7.

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Quoting dana:



Quoting Kathy:




Quoting Robyn:

I have used bumpers with both of my boys. Both boys slept in a bassinet for at least 3 months, so by then they were rolling over. My youngest one actually slept in the pack-n-play bassinet for at least five months. I started using the bumper when my oldest would get his legs stuck and would hit is head. I just don't want to deal with that. And by the way, my sister has friend that lost a baby to SIDS while it was sleeping in her arms. That's right! The baby was sleeping where you would think it was the safest place to sleep...in your arms. Researchers have no determined that SIDS is caused by a genetic defect that would give a child a predisposition to having SIDS. It is not always about where they sleep and with what. It has to do with the serotonin levels in the brain. If certain chemicals are not at the right level, that baby will not wake up when it is having a hard time breathing. I believe that using bumpers is just a personal choice so go with your gut.







Thank you!! I've heard so many people say this causes sids, that causes sids that I wanna puke. My girl slept in the bassnet for the first few months and I use bumpers too. My brother was a SIDS baby, and he's still alive, my mom watched him turn blue in his lounge chair on the table in front of her. Its about catching it and getting the baby breathing quickly enough. He was on a heart monitor for months, and stayed in the hospital while my mom and dad were trained on CPR and how to work the monitor. BUT my point is, it doesn't matter where baby is, how baby sleeps any baby can get it.










Exactly but, why would you add any more risk factors?





 

Susan - posted on 12/31/2009

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We didn't use them in the crib for 2 out of 3 of ours but for a short time with my second as she was always getting her legs caught in the bars. I then used them as an accessory when we changed to the daybed version of the crib as they were so pretty that I felt the need to use them for something.

Jennifer - posted on 12/31/2009

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Never used them even though the ones that came in his crib set were SO cute :(
It really just isn't worth it. They could possibly increase the risk of SIDS and they're a suffocation hazard.

Dana - posted on 12/31/2009

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i found crib safety net u place around crib but corners are open-cant get parts stuck

breathable netting when older now roll up blanket head bed and child doesnt bump head

you can tape it rolled if concern, she sleeps cuddled against it

Kathy - posted on 12/31/2009

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Quoting Shona:

well to be honest. I have them on my daughters cot and she isnt even in it yet. But even in her moses basket i put a blanket over the sides because she used to scratch her face on the wood. and all this noncense about it causeign things is crap. my daughter is 5months old and her travel cot has a pillow in it and cot bumpers. she is normal, breathing and never had difficulty to do with them stoping her breathing or nothing like that however she did go into hospital for a banged head out of her travel cot...and they said the bumpers saved her life. the way she hit her head against the bar that holds it up could have killed her if they werent on. so actually i think it saves lives not the other way round


Your right... I was thinking about it and my daughters bassinet has them built right in to it, and its probably to protect from the supports. Its collapable and doubles as a travel bed.

Shona - posted on 12/30/2009

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well to be honest. I have them on my daughters cot and she isnt even in it yet. But even in her moses basket i put a blanket over the sides because she used to scratch her face on the wood. and all this noncense about it causeign things is crap. my daughter is 5months old and her travel cot has a pillow in it and cot bumpers. she is normal, breathing and never had difficulty to do with them stoping her breathing or nothing like that however she did go into hospital for a banged head out of her travel cot...and they said the bumpers saved her life. the way she hit her head against the bar that holds it up could have killed her if they werent on. so actually i think it saves lives not the other way round

Nicky - posted on 12/30/2009

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I recently purchased a Nap Nanny. It's a bed which elevates my 12 week old son, so he sleeps in a upright position. It's worth every penny. He now sleeps through and it helps him breath better. He used to wriggle his way right up against the bumper, then got really distressed with it. Check out Napnanny.com. Also, my sister has lent me a Mattress sensor you put underneath the mattress which sounds an alarm if your Baby stops breathing for x-amount of seconds. It's fantastic. My husband and I get a peaceful nights sleep.

Lora - posted on 12/30/2009

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No. I did w/ my 2 older kids but they don't seem to make any difference. Plus, it's suggested to take them off before they do much moving around in the crib so what's the point?

Emily - posted on 12/29/2009

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We swear by the breathable bumpers in our house. Because of the SIDS issue, I removed our sons bumper long before he slept in his crib for the first time. The very first night he slept in his crib, he woke us up at 2am screaming his little head off. My husband went in his room to find him with a leg through the slats and completely unable to get it out. Poor little guy almost broke his ankle! I ordered a mesh crib bumper from Babies R Us the following day and didn't let him back in his crib until it arrived.

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