Eilidh is 5 next week and still wet at night.

Christine - posted on 01/09/2010 ( 30 moms have responded )

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She has been dry during the day since 18 months but is still wet at night. She is on a medication that is supposed to lessen her production of urine at night but it's not working. I have tried lifting her, giving her more to drink during the day, less to drink, double voiding at bedtime and nothing seems to work. Her 2 1/2 year old brother is nearly dry and she is starting to notice and get upset. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks

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Christine - posted on 01/18/2010

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Thaks everyone for your support and advice - we'll get there. xx

Opal - posted on 01/18/2010

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We use to have to get our daughter up during the night and place her on the toilet to train her to get up and go at night. I would set her on the toilet sometimes in her sleep. eventually it worked.

Karen - posted on 01/18/2010

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Hi Christine... I've got same problem with Abbigail.. she was 5 in September.. I had to stop the nappies as her wee bum was getting sore.. Now i'm trying to keep up with the washing... Just like Eilidh she's a sound sleeper and is oblivious to what's happening.. we had to buy a waterproof duvet ...It doesn't matter how much or little she has to drink.. I've seen her drink loads before bedtime and be dry in the morning.. I'm hoping it will all click into place for her soon... As i'm sure it will with Eilidh .. I don't worry about it and neither does she... Is that good thing or bad thing i'm not sure.. My other 4 were all dry by the age of 3 give or take a few wee accidents ...You know where i am if you want a blether x x x

Joy - posted on 01/14/2010

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Hi not sure whether you live, the UK or the States. If you live in the UK I would consider taking your child to see a McTimoney Chiropractor. It may be that the nerve supply to the bladder is impinged in some way. I advocate McTimoney Chiropractic as it is very gentle and suitable for young children If your childs pelvis is not aligned properly, it may be that when they lie down, the message isn't getting to the brain properly to wake them up.
If you are in the UK, then let me knwo where you are and I will try and help you find someone local to you, who treats children, as not all McTimoney Chiropractors do. Good Luck Joy Gill www.joyofchiropractic.co.uk

Leanne - posted on 01/14/2010

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Try removing milk from her diet as the acid in milk can irritate the bladder. This worked for my son, he was an older child. Pull-ups at her age is a very good alternative.

Jackie - posted on 01/14/2010

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I have 4 kids, my first one within 1 week potty trained,great, my 2nd had that problem, he was about 4,and my pediatrician suggested something, he told me to tell my son before he went to bed, that if he woke up wet, to lay out the clean sheets, a towel and clean pj and that he would have to change the bed and clean himself, that mommy wont, well the first night he woke me up, we went to his room, and he waited for me to do it, then I looked at him and told him remember what I told you, you have to do it yourself, well his eyes got big, tears came down his cheeks, my heart was broken, but he did it, no more bed wetting, it worked.
Well here comes child #3, no luck, he is 8 and still wets the bed. I stopped stressing about along time ago. I work at a doc office and some kids bladder just dont mature as fast as others, he is a deep sleeper. He has even told me,"mommy I try to wake up, but I can't". I have used the nightime pull ups for older kids, cuz the washing did get a bit to much. He loves to drink water, so it breaks my heart when he tells me I am thirsty and I say no water (his blood sugar was checked, he is fine). One day I forgot to buy the goodnights pull ups, after about 5 days, I was going to buy them and he said NO!, so I didn't. I have him go to the bathroom at least 3 times before he goes to bed, I was waking him up aroune 4:30 am or 5am, when we got up, and made him go to the bathroom, he was dry at that time, then went back to bed, and when I would wake him up at 7am he was dry, we made a big deal, gave him high 5, big hugs and kisses, he was happy.
What is really sad, is that he does not ever want to spend the night at his best friends house, or want anyone spend the night at our house, cuz of this problem. We don't get mad at him, we don't push him, we just live our life like this is no problem. In the morning when I wake him up, I ask him in a low voice when I am kissing him,"r u wet" if he says yes, then I just say, ok, take a shower and lets have a good day, he just says ok, and he takes his sheets to the washer,nothing else, no other comments from anyone. We don't want to give him any medications that are really not necessary, and I don't want to use any alarm, in time, when they are ready. We did buy a platic cover for the mattress, it covers the whole mattress(it has a zipper), just wash the sheets, wipe the mattress, and the day goes on.
If there is no other problems, like alot of stress at home, being arguements between mom and dad, alot of yelling, jealousy between siblings, any major drama the child has encounter, nightmares, checked about diabetes, then I just think, now this is my opinion as a mother, its just time they will need. Don't push it, don't make a big deal about it. In time. My last child was potty trained by 2, she took of her diaper one day and sat on the toilet by herself, that was it ,1 day. My bedwetter and her r only 1 1/2 yr apart, out of my 4 only 1 is a bedwetter.Now if my son falls alseep watching tv, ya we know he will be wet, I just tell him in the monrning, u forgot to go to ther bathroom, and the other kids will tell me when he is falling asleep before he goes to the bathroom, they help out. The last 4 days my son has been dry. Good luck, and be very patient.

Teri-Lynn - posted on 01/13/2010

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I know your concern. My daughter is 7 1/2 and soaks the bed. this is with a pad she wears and also a pad on the bed, I went ahead and got a plastic cover for our mattress' and still have so much laundry. We have looked into a few different medical reasons.. One is the possibility of her bowels pressing on her bladder. (Thats what her pediatric Dr. believes) then a side effect of another med and then depression and so on and I had no idea that depression could look like frustration in a happy kid! SO Im checking all things. we are going to try a anti depressant that has been used for years to treat enuresis ,now is that the medication you were speaking of?

Jennifer - posted on 01/13/2010

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I had one with occasional night wetting until 11 and the other is still six and wets. I just use Overnights or Underjams and they grew out of it, eventually.

Putting on the "pull-up" should be treated as just an ordinary part of the nightly routine. Taking it off and throwing it in the garbage in the morning is the child's full responsibility. Just as if they were taking off underwear and throwing them in the laundry.
If an accident happens (leakage), I don't make a fuss. I just have the child take responsibility and clean it up by switching the sheets and making the bed.

Kelli - posted on 01/13/2010

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Have you tried holding back on liquids at night? It's a tough spot. Generally we put our kids to bed early in the evening. Perhaps before you go to bed walk her to the bathroom and see if she will go for you. It may help. Good luck. Thank God for matress pads.

Christine - posted on 01/13/2010

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Thanks again everyone. Really appreciate the support, advice and encouragement.

Hilary - posted on 01/13/2010

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Isn't being a mum the hardest job in the world - the mum's manual doesn't give nearly enought info, lol!!! It does sound like your little girl is a bright button - perhaps its time to explain how her body works and its a development thingy..and her brother is just a bit earlier than her! Good luck!

Hilary - posted on 01/13/2010

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Hi, I can imagine it must be very upsetting, but honestly some children do still wet at night...in the uk they don't even worry about it until 7 - I believe its something to do with a chemical in the brain which I am sure you are aware of....asking a friend with children in a similar position, she says she has just explained its their body developing differently and that when they are older things will sort themselves out...have just read others comments, lol, and realize we all seem to be pretty much on the same road, hey!! Wishing you all the best.

DeeDee - posted on 01/12/2010

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Please Know that I Have ezperienced this w/ one of my children, forget the prescription drugs and know this will take care of itself in time, its going to take time and patience! Perfectly natural, so please, take care and dont lose hope, this will take care of itself! DeeDee

Bridget - posted on 01/11/2010

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My daughter had the same problem. some kids just sleep so heavily that they dont relize they have to go. when you wake her at night to go make sure she is fully awake. dont just lift her and put her on the toliet. second, stop letting her drink after dinner.the doctor prescribed those pills to my daughter too and they didnt work. unfortunatley, my daughter wet the bed all the way until she was 12. if there is alot of stress in your house, (which at the time there was for us) that is a big reason also. just dont yell at her for it. when she does have an accident, make HER change the sheets. in time, she will start waking up on her own.

Christine - posted on 01/11/2010

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She gets nothing after dinner at 5! Just spoke to the school nurse. She said just to forget about it for a while as she is still young. Easier said than done when her baby brother is nearly dry and she is getting upset!! Still, I'll take her off the medication as advised but keep trying all the other things. She knows she is not doing anything wrong as I have made sure I don't make a fuss but she is a clever wee girl and it's bothering her. Aaarrrggghhh! x

Courtney - posted on 01/10/2010

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No liquids after 6pm!

Christine - posted on 01/10/2010

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Just realised I was logged in as my husband!! Doh! Thanks again everyone x

Simon - posted on 01/10/2010

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Thank you so much everyone! I'm going to speak with the school nurse this week. I have been putting her in pull-ups at night as the washing was getting too much and her wee bottom was getting sore. she seems to be a really deep sleeper and even when soaking wet she wouldn't wake up. It's good to know that she is not alone. Doctors/nurses etc say it's normal but when your wee one is getting upset it's hard. I've tried all your suggestions before but to no avail so will just keep going. As I say, the professionals can tell you its normal but it makes it more real to talk with other parents so thanks again. God bless x

Jeanette - posted on 01/10/2010

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Jamie never wet the bed till he was 7 and he was diagnosed with diabetes within a couple of months. I would get her checked for any physical problems, check everything is ok with her emotionaly and if thats all ok then just be patient she will get there in the end. Your anxiety can make things worse too.

Suzanne - posted on 01/09/2010

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I wet the bed until I was about 10-SERIOUSLY!! Of course, I had a lot of sleep walking, and nightmares, too. I have always heard, from doctors, to stop giving kids drinks after 5:00 or 6:00 P.M. Who knows?

Nicola - posted on 01/09/2010

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so long as there are no physical problems, then you can be sure she will be dry at night in her own time.

not sure where you live but here we have a product called night time pull ups when are like a thick nappy but tailored like a pair of underpants. I too used to get mine up just before I went to bed to put them on the toilet to help the process of keeping them dry. you can also get "kylies" which are a half sheet which absorbs the urine and are easily washed. there are nicer than a rubber sheet to sleep on too.

I want to emphasise that all kids will be dry in there own time so rule out physiological possibilities and just go with the flow.

Cami - posted on 01/09/2010

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I'm going to tell you something very personal, I actually we the bed until I was 14 years old. My parents tried everything, all meds and remedies but my doc said that for some reason my bladder wasn't growing as fast as the rest of my body. Yes it was very embarrassing but it was just something I had to live with then. If nothing works just rest assured it will eventually stop, it's hard to push these things. My mother used to get really mad at me, accusing me of just being too lazy to get up and go to the bathroom at night but that wasn't true! I just didn't wake up because before my bladder could fill up enough to wake me I had all ready peed in the bed. She will eventually grow out of it:)

Simone - posted on 01/09/2010

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My son is 7 years and still wets the bed occasionally we use pull ups as the washing can get to much. i sometimes wake him up before i go to bed so he can go to the toilet that helps.

Michelle - posted on 01/09/2010

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My health visitor told me that it not unusal for kids to be wet up till 6 even. my daughter was 4 at time of asking. she 5 now and she is oknow. just odd accident but maybe your daughter is worrying about it too and that maybe why she wetting the bed. You can buy pull ups for bigger children so could use these but still treat her as if in knickers. Then maybe when she closer to 6 it might be worth getting her checked just to make sure there isn't a physical reason for it. Speak to your health visitor aswell. They do some times have useful tips.

Nicole - posted on 01/09/2010

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my sister is having the same problem and her son is nine, the doctors have put him on medication and told her to only let him drink water insted of juice and no drinks 1 hours prior to bed time, and no much of this seems to work, the only road she is goin down now is waking him in the middle of the night to take him to the toilet, bed wettin is a hard issue to tackle and my nepthew is bed wettin due to deep sleep.



My sister and I have looked into soo many different reason why, there are soo many reasons why for example your child may not have learnt propa bladder control, she may felt pressure during potty training, she may have a small bladder, could be a late devolper, or upset and stress.



There are many known ways to prevent bedwetting like: Medication which has not worked for you, The enuresis alarm which is 2 detector mats on the bed which connected to a buzzer by thee childs bed and as your child begins to wet the bed whilst asleep the buzzer sounds to wake your child, slowly it teaches the brain when the bladder is full so either your child will not wet or know when to get up to go to the toliet.

There daytime training, which is if your childs bladder is smaller than normall when your child needs the toliet you try to get your child to hold it in for 5 mins then when they are easily doing 5 mins gradually make it longer this gradually increases the capacity of the bladder.



These are just things we have looked into and hope maybe one of them can help you in away,

good luck

Jayne - posted on 01/09/2010

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do not rush it . it will all come in time. dont make him feel bad or oogy it. be patient you can do it.

Rita - posted on 01/09/2010

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had the same prob with my oldest now i am going thru it agian. all kids are different but it helped with my girl no drinks after 7 pm and to try too make her hold her bladder a little bit durring the day to help expand the bladder try to notioce if she is going to the poddy alot durring the day and incurage to hold just a few min longer if she happens to go more than you would think is normal she may have a sm bladder. this will help to strech .

Rosalyn - posted on 01/09/2010

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Fear not mom I have 5 kids, 2 who like my self were always wet at night each child is different, but I noticed it usually happened when they were stressed and got worse when they compared themselves with each the other.. thank God for pull ups!! When she is ready it it stop.If you don't make a big deal over it she won't either. God Bless

Beth - posted on 01/09/2010

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My eldest is older and is currently not dry at night. Youngest is 5 and again not dry at night. Firstly I would say is try not to over-worry as she will pick up on this. Don't make an issue of it either. I know that I was talking to someone who works in the medical field and they said that it doesn't become a major problem until they're 6.



I would suggest that you don't make a major issue out of it. I know it's not easy.



In the UK you can get nappies in larger sizes (as well as a selection of other products), it could be worth putting her in them if you can get hold of them. The ones that the eldest uses are like pull ups but just in a bigger size.



If she doesn't show any signs of any improvement then it's worth talking to the doctor again and see if there is any underlying cause for it. You never know she may suddenly become dry for you during the night.

Charmaine - posted on 01/09/2010

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Hi Christine. I would tackle this from more than one angle. Have you tried waking her up during night and letting her go to the toilet and then putting her back to bed? My mother used to do that with my brother until he learnt to get up by himself when he needed to go.



I would also take her to 2 other medical professionals. Firstly to a urologist that can check to see if there may be any problems with her bladder or bladder control. She may have a physical problem that you are not aware of.



Next I would consider a psychologist. It could be that there is something that is bothering her and resulting in the bedwetting. Maybe she is getting nightmares or is afraid of the dark.



good luck