health visitors ??

Dana - posted on 01/08/2010

Make sure to have her play with other kids, other kids will wipe them out! Also, I too think you deserve a pat on the back for doing it on your own. I can't freakin imagine, there were times during my sleep deprivation that I had to hand my son to my husband and walk away for a minute or two, I'm more thankful now knowing that I had help.

Dana - posted on 01/08/2010

My son is 17 months, he goes to bed at 7:30 pm and wakes up at 7-7:30 am. He has one nap at 11:30 am and sleeps for an hour and a half usually, sometimes 2 hours.

Evelyn - posted on 01/08/2010

My daughter sleeps between 6:30-7pm and sleeps until 8am, she is now 1 year old today. She always has a bath at 6pm so she knows after bath comes sleep, I have always done this, at first it was not easy to get her to sleep after the bath, but at 6 weeks she had finally got the idea, I just never took her down stairs after a bath and kept her in the bedroom until she fell asleep, i would read to her and then sing to her in dimmed lights until she fell asleep, some nights this would be 11pm or 12pm but it was worth it after 6 weeks of persistance, and now if you dont give her a bath by 6pm she just puts her head down anywhere to sleep. She also sleeps at 10am to 12pm during the day. The six pm bathing was advise I got from my mom, who has raised 6 kids, and I am glad I followed her advise now, coz its really good to have some free time in the evenings just to relax and recover..... if you can call it that....

Veronica - posted on 01/08/2010

My duaghter is 14 months old and she goes to bed between 830 and 930 every night. She has good nights and bad nights. Good nights she sleeps thru the night. Bad night she gets up fussing and screaming about every hour or so. I tap her on the butt and tell her it is night night time still and off to sleep she goes.. for the next hour or so. LOL

Lianne - posted on 01/08/2010

TINA- she doesnt hav much sugar she mostly eats fruit 4 snacks, and only drinks water,

she is very active all day she does not stop running around the park, house, garden, she has bouncy castle that she jumps on, we hav the music on and she dances around, she has quiet time aswell but not much as she phsyically cant keep still.

do u any other ideas to wear her out ??

Tina - posted on 01/08/2010

My daughter goes to bed around 8 but doesn't go to sleep til around 9:30. She sleeps in the crib beside my bed. She has always got up alot during the night but goes back to sleep. She is now 24 months and still does not sleep thru the night. However, she only gets up once and goes back down. My question to you is does your daughter get any caffeine products and how much sugar during the day? Is she active enough to where she should be tired?

Shay - posted on 01/07/2010

My Daughter is almost 4 months and we usually put her to bed between 9pm & 11pm, depending what time she starts to look sleeply.

Lianne - posted on 01/07/2010

thanx dawn!!

Dawn - posted on 01/07/2010

I think IIja is spot on, single mothers, I have no idea how you do it. Good luck Lianne x

Lianne - posted on 01/07/2010

llja- thanx 4 ur msge, it made me laugh!!
ur idea is great and im waiting 4 the nite i can do it lol.

Ilja - posted on 01/07/2010

Hiya Lianne,

I can so imagine that the whole no sleeping thing takes a toll on both your daughter AND you. Not getting enough sleep turns me into a b*tch on wheels real quick.
I don't really have any suggestions how to get your girl to sleep well (I am sure you have tried just about everything you can think of by now) but I do have a suggestion for you...give yourself an ENORMOUS pat on the back for doing this whole parent thing all by yourself. And also, if she does happen to sleep well one night, pour yourself a nice big glass of red wine, curl up on the couch and watch the girliest movie you can think of. Hahaha I know it's totally corny, but screw it, always makes me feel better :-)

Diana - posted on 01/06/2010

My son is 9 months, and he goes to bed between 9:30 and 10:30 most nights. It's easier that way because then he sleeps until 8 or 9 a.m. instead of waking up several times because he wasn't quite tired enough when he originally went to bed.

Dawn - posted on 01/06/2010

That seems madness. I have a daughter who has just turned 2 and she is not a good sleeper but she goes to bed at 7 usually and then wakes in the night for various reasons. I have never been advised to do this. My second child is 8 months and an absolutly terrible sleeper and I am at my wits end with him so I totally understand. I don't have any answers I am affraid but I will not be trying the 11 o'clock thing. Good luck x

Amy - posted on 01/06/2010

My daughter is almost 8 months old. She goes to sleep anywhere from 8 to 9:30pm depending on what time she wakes up in the morning

Alisha - posted on 01/06/2010

I'm sure she is plenty busy some kids just go through changes in their sleep patterns it will get worked out. If you are concerned ask your pediatrician and not that health visitor with crazy ideas!

Lianne - posted on 01/06/2010

SHARON GREY- did u read my post that i wrote 2 someone else, she runs around all day, she goes park, plays in the garden, she has a bouncy castle that she jumps on, we hav the music on and she does dancing, she pushes her dolls pram around, i dont keep her in the house all day doin nothing. she does paintings, stickings, im always playing wiv her and when im doin housework she is helping me filling up the machine, putting clothes away.

any other ideas 2 keep her busy ???

Amy - posted on 01/06/2010

wow, that's hard! My son 20 months old, dosent' sleep much either. He likes to play at night, however he does stay in his room MOST of the time. He'll go to bed at 8 then wake up around 6 or 7 (but that includes him playing in his room). He takes a hour nap during the day, but we don't think he sleeps most of the time.

Sharon - posted on 01/06/2010

Evidently she isn't kept busy enough during the day.



Just having "stuff" isn't going to do it.



If that isn't the case she could have a genuine sleep disorder. Unfortunately - if it can't be resolved she's going to die from lack of sleep. Although I've never heard of this happening to a child. Its usually something that happens to adults.

Alisha - posted on 01/06/2010

My daughter is 4 and an 11 pm bedtime is ridiculous! I wouldn't follow that advice at all! Since your daughter is playing, laughing, moaning I would just leave her alone and let her go back to sleep on her own. Crying is a different story and rocking may help but if it gets to be too much just let her cry herself to sleep, as long as she's not hurt she will be fine. If you keep tending to her the second she wakes up she will love it and wake up more often. I put my daughter to bed at 8 and she's sleeping by 8:30 or 9 and I think that is a good bedtime. Your daughter's almost 2 and she sould be able to sleep through the night so just let her try on her own, it will get better.

Michelle - posted on 01/06/2010

btw 9 and 10. But make sure she doesn't have any sugar( which includes fruits) before bed..and make sure at least half an hour before u lay her down she is having some "quiet play time". Good luck.

Kathleen - posted on 01/06/2010

Hi,

I used to put mine to bed about 6-7 at night, and they would be there until 6-7 the next morning.

The health visitor is wrong to tell you to keep your daughter up until 11 at night, all children have a bed time and you are doing right putting her to bed at 8, is she in her own bed if she is try lying with her for a bit to see if she will fall asleep again.

Does she have chocolate or orange juice before she goes to bed (sorry if she doesnt) try giving her some hot milk to drink instead. She could be hyperactive.

Kathy

Monica - posted on 01/06/2010

my sons are and 3 and they still wake up though the night i put them both to bed between 8pm-9pm

Nicola - posted on 01/06/2010

my twin girls have a routine that i swear by they go to bed at half six and get up at 8.15 approx, they then go back sleep at 11.30 and sleep till half 1 in the afternoon. .they set this routine themselves as they started to cry at being put bed about 8 as they were so tired.i started to notice a pattern at approx 6 mths so i just went with it.they are now 2yr 3 mths and my son of 9mths is in exactly the same routine.sometimes when they wake just reasure them your there and lie them back down.if you have to go in again dont say anything and dont give eye contact just lie back down.even in the day if she wakes they will go back sleep most of the time theres nothin wrong they just try it on like my son did.just leave a crack in the door so u can see them.when she has a nap put her in her room.hope this helps.

Jackie - posted on 01/06/2010

Going by what you have said... i really think you need to get her tested for ADD/ADHD. Don't allow them just to medicate on your word. Force your doctor to order testing. You want blood work, a sleep study and you want child therapist to observe her. My mother inlaw always says my husband didn't sleep from birth. Its one of the major signs of ADD when children are younger. So have her checked and rule that out. A sleep study will help rule out any physical problems like sleep ampena *spelling?* and they will be able to see what is happening to wake her. Until its all sorted out pull her into bed with you. You and her both need your sleep. If you are sleeping beside her holding her she is safer then crying in her crib and you might show/teach her when sleep time is. Good luck. I would like to add I am not one to tell anyone to get their child tested for ADD i think most chidren on meds for ADD are just misbehaving children who are popping pills. So please take my suggestion seriously because you do sound like you are in the real situation.

Crystal - posted on 01/06/2010

wow, my son sleeps really well actually, we have some bad days but not many.



he is usually in bed by 8pm, and sleeps right up to about 7am. he also takes a 3 hour nap from noon to about 3



he is a little over 2

Eileen - posted on 01/06/2010

Have you considered that she might have a food allergy? Some children tend to have issues at night, especially when there are little to no 'distractions'. If there is an indication that she is uncomfortable, holding her stomach, tugging her ears, hitting her head etc., these can all be signs of a potential allergy and her attempt to deal with gastrointestinal pain. If so, gluten and dairy are the most likely suspects, so if you have a family history of allergies and the behaviour continues inspite of 'running' her during the day, consider having her tested.

Lianne - posted on 01/06/2010

this has been goin on a very long time since birth, my doctor tells me its ok and so does the health visitor,

CHRISTY- she has a routine she doesnt hav a bath b4 bed bcoz it makes her even more hyper and she will run around naked screaming wiv exciment.
she has a nite light and the music didnt work she would just dance around 2 it.
i hav left her 2 scream for hours it jus doesnt work she will fall asleep and then wake up soon after.

DAWN- how can i find out y she isnt sleeping ??
i have left her 4 hours 2 scream and cry yes she will fall asleep and then wake bk up soon after, ive tried sitting on the floor waiting 4 her 2 fall asleep, ive done the 5min thing keep goin in and out, sometimes she a nap in the day but not long.

she has a problem staying asleep, goin asleep is not 2 bad.

Iysha - posted on 01/05/2010

My daughter is 6 months and I have her in bed around 8-9, sometimes 10pm if I'm going to be up and she wakes around 6am. She was waking up around 5am up until 2 weeks ago. I just put her to bed about an hour to 2 hours before I go to bed. My fiance and I usually get our daughter to bed and then put a movie in for some alone time.

Dawn - posted on 01/05/2010

Wow, you need to figure out why she is getting up and screaming, do you respond to her when she is up all nite? Does she sleep during the day? The appropriate age for 22 months is about 8 pm. I think your problem is that you need to find out why she is not sleeping throughout the night.

Francesca - posted on 01/05/2010

My little one set her own schedule. She is only 8 months though.

She has 3 naps during the day, one in the morning, afternoon and early evening between 30 minutes to an hour.

At night I put her to bed at around 10/10:30pm. She sometimes gets up once or twice at night, but she is breastfed so I feed her and she goes right back to sleep. And she doesn't wake up in the morning until about 9am.

Good luck with your little one. I hope you find something that works.

Christy - posted on 01/05/2010

routine routine routine!!!
I know it's sometimes hard as a single mom, but it's possible.
Try a night light & a radio in the room, let her cry it out. I know it;s sooo hard to let them cry, but sometimes that's all it takes.. Give them a bath before bed, let them play & realx.
Just know, you're not alone!!!

Rebecca - posted on 01/05/2010

My son is only two months but has only ever napped 2 or 3 times in his entire life. He used to not sleep at night but I got into a routine with him (playing, then feeding, then bath time for as long as he'll stay in, then I rock him to sleep - which takes about 10 minutes). Since I started doing that, no matter how wide awake he was or even if he's been crying inconsolably all night, he'll go to sleep by around 10 and sleep anywhere from 10-12 hours. I'm gradually starting this routine earlier (about 20 minutes earlier each week) to get him to bed by 8 and it seems to be going well. I'm sure you've tried just about everything though. Good luck!

September - posted on 01/05/2010

Our son is 14 months and goes to bed at 8:30pm every night.

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Joanne:

hi my girls are 3 and 19 months and they both go to bed at 7-7.30 at get up at 6-30-7am my 19 month also has 1-2 hour nap between 12.30 and 2-30 i think 11pm is far too late !

hi, yes i thought 11 was far to late!! i thought 8 was late enough shes not even 2!!

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting nancy:

You need to keep her very busy during the day. Very Very busy.

i think i keep her busy, shes always running and jumping around, we go 2 the park she plays in the garden, she has a bouncy castle which she loves,

she has lots of toys which i change around so she doesnt get bored, she helps me wiv the housework, and when she is bored again i clear the room and put music on she dances around. she goes 2 playgroup once or twice a week,

do u have anymore ideas 2 keep her busy ??

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Julie :

How long has this been going on? Could it be her 2year old molars coming in that is preventing her from sleeping?

I have a 9mth old son. He goes to bed at 8:30pm and is up around 7am. But there are nights where he too just wants to play and scream and not go to bed, even though I know he is tired. At those times, I have to lay in bed with him and hold him tight until he stays still long enough to realize he is tired and he falls asleep. Then I put him in his bed. Could you lay in bed with her just till she's asleep then go about doing what you need to do?

Also, have you ever watched Super Nanny. Maybe try the separation technique where you put her back in her bed and sit near the end of her bed, not saying anything to her. Just keep putting her back in her bed until she falls asleep. The first time may take a while but it gets easier.

hi, its been goin on 4eva lol, when i first had she didnt sleep she would jus scream for hours, it maybe her teeth she has 18 im not sure how many they get ??

i love super nanny lol, i wish she would come 2 my house!! i watch her shows and i also hav her book, which has helped wiv certian stuff but not sleeping.

i do sometimes lay in bed wiv her and it could take 2hrs 4 her 2 fall asleep bcoz she knows im gona go.

Emily - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Lourdelyn:

my daughter is 16 months and she has no time scheduled for bed at night she usually sleep alone before midnight and sometimes latest is at 1 a.m.

That sounds like my daughter and it drives me insane!  No matter how hard I try and how many different ways, she still gets in bed so late.  Arrgh!!!

Nancy - posted on 01/05/2010

You need to keep her very busy during the day. Very Very busy.

Belinda - posted on 01/05/2010

My 24 month old goes to bed at 7pm. She is asleep by about 7.15pm. She gets up for the day between 5.15am and 5.30am. She can sometimes sleep through without waking me but other times she can wake 2, 3, 5 + times a night. There seems to be no obvious factors for the nights she is waking. We just patiently go in, offer some water, help her get comfy and leave. She always goes back to sleep straight away. I am just waiting for her to be ready to sleep through consistently. Soon would be great as my 5 month old wakes about 4 times a night too! I'm tired!

Julie - posted on 01/05/2010

How long has this been going on? Could it be her 2year old molars coming in that is preventing her from sleeping?

I have a 9mth old son. He goes to bed at 8:30pm and is up around 7am. But there are nights where he too just wants to play and scream and not go to bed, even though I know he is tired. At those times, I have to lay in bed with him and hold him tight until he stays still long enough to realize he is tired and he falls asleep. Then I put him in his bed. Could you lay in bed with her just till she's asleep then go about doing what you need to do?

Also, have you ever watched Super Nanny. Maybe try the separation technique where you put her back in her bed and sit near the end of her bed, not saying anything to her. Just keep putting her back in her bed until she falls asleep. The first time may take a while but it gets easier.

Tammy - posted on 01/05/2010

I would really push the nap during the day, maybe try several times a day You would think that if she doesn't nap during the day that she would be really tired and sleep better. but you'll find that the more sleep they get the better sleepers they become. my 15 month son still had a half hour morning nap (around 9am) , and a two hour nap 12-2pm and we put both our children to bed at 7pm. He wakes up sometimes, but usually it's just because he's misplaced his soother. He wakes up very early.. around 6 am most mornings, because that's when my hubby wakes up.

Amber Lynne - posted on 01/05/2010

when my son was under 18 months, I bathed and did the bedtime routine beginning 9:30. He went to bed around 10pm or a little after if his bath ran long. He then slept until 9-9:30am. As he approached 2 he started waking up earlier in the morning, so we've worked on moving the bedtime back a little. He's usually in bed by 9:30pm now, and he sleep till around 8am. He's always been a good sleeper though. Slept 5-6 hours straight at 3 weeks old. Then as he got older he'd sleep 12 hours easily. Now that he's a toddler, running around all the time...he's mostly quit his nap during the day, and he's not requiring as much sleep. 9:30-8am is his norm now.
I would rather put my kid to bed later at night, if it means that I can sleep the whole night and not have to get up in a delirious state in the middle of the night.

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Kristen :

Quoting Lianne:

Quoting Kristen :

My youngest is 7 months, hes down by 8, but usually up once around 2 then up for good at about 5. keeping a baby up till 11 is even more silly than it is unrealistic. Put her down at 8, go to bed around 9 or 10, if all is calm in her enviornment she will sleep. Because all 4 of my kids are the same, if were up buisy, they wont sleep untill were settled.

i have been putting her down at 8,

r u telling me 2 go 2 bed around 9 or 10 ???

i live on my own wiv her so there is no noise when she is asleep, shes alseep upstairs and i watch tv downstairs

I dont think going to bed around 9 or 10 is unreasonable luv, considering with kids we have to be up at the break of dawn. You need your sleep and you need to just relax and take it for what it is. She just may be going through a difficult phase or mabey shell always be difficult lol. My 7 year old has been the most work of all my kids and to this day even with an infant and a teenager and 4yo, hes still the most difficult. ive just accepted him for the wild man that he is and feel much calmer since i have.

oh i no she will always b a handfull i accepeted that a very long time ago and its fine coz she makes me laugh most of the time wiv her crazyness! i cant go 2 bed at 9 or 10 i hav stuff 2 do and and would like 2 sit on my own 4 a lilttle bit,

thanx 4 all ur advice i will take it all on my high strung board!!

Joanne - posted on 01/05/2010

hi my girls are 3 and 19 months and they both go to bed at 7-7.30 at get up at 6-30-7am my 19 month also has 1-2 hour nap between 12.30 and 2-30 i think 11pm is far too late !

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting annette:

i have 5 children, and this is an age where children will try to stay up later, they are still young, but they do try to test the boundries that have been set for them.

Give a child routine and they will end up accepting that this is how it should be.

As for your health visitor, i suggest that she goes and has some children of her own and then try out al the information she has dished out .............. she will end up totally ignoring all her own advice

I found with my children at this age, is to give them their evening meal a little later, at about 6 - 6:30 pm after that a bath a quiet sit down together, and then put them to bed at 7:30pm.

Kids will try to come out of their room, and cry for attention, but just ask yourself, when they cry, they are getting what they want ---- your attention !!!

Ignor them for the first 5 mins, go up tuck them back into bed and give them a kiss. I increased the time by 5 mins between each time of going up, during each time NEVER talking to the children, cos then they will think that they've got your attention !!!

If they got up to play with their toys, i'd simply take the toys away from them and tuck them back into bed, still without talking.

For me, this went on for about a week, and eventually my children all learnt that the routine is, tea bath and when put to bed they stay in bed.

I hope that the advice helps, but as the saying goes mum knows best...... you know your child better than anyone else and you will find it within yourself to do what is best


Annette

hi thanx 4 ur advice, she has her dinner about 5 coz she doesnt eat much lunch, but about half 6 i give her some weetabix, then she has a drink at bedtime.

i have treid the bath routine b4 and it just neva worked if anything it made her even more hyper than she already is lol.

ive left her 2 scream for 5mins even let her scream for hrs!! she will jus make herself sick,

she is jus a little madam lol.

Kristen - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Lianne:

Quoting Kristen :

My youngest is 7 months, hes down by 8, but usually up once around 2 then up for good at about 5. keeping a baby up till 11 is even more silly than it is unrealistic. Put her down at 8, go to bed around 9 or 10, if all is calm in her enviornment she will sleep. Because all 4 of my kids are the same, if were up buisy, they wont sleep untill were settled.

i have been putting her down at 8,

r u telling me 2 go 2 bed around 9 or 10 ???

i live on my own wiv her so there is no noise when she is asleep, shes alseep upstairs and i watch tv downstairs

I dont think going to bed around 9 or 10 is unreasonable luv, considering with kids we have to be up at the break of dawn. You need your sleep and you need to just relax and take it for what it is. She just may be going through a difficult phase or mabey shell always be difficult lol. My 7 year old has been the most work of all my kids and to this day even with an infant and a teenager and 4yo, hes still the most difficult. ive just accepted him for the wild man that he is and feel much calmer since i have.

Annette - posted on 01/05/2010

i have 5 children, and this is an age where children will try to stay up later, they are still young, but they do try to test the boundries that have been set for them.

Give a child routine and they will end up accepting that this is how it should be.

As for your health visitor, i suggest that she goes and has some children of her own and then try out al the information she has dished out .............. she will end up totally ignoring all her own advice

I found with my children at this age, is to give them their evening meal a little later, at about 6 - 6:30 pm after that a bath a quiet sit down together, and then put them to bed at 7:30pm.

Kids will try to come out of their room, and cry for attention, but just ask yourself, when they cry, they are getting what they want ---- your attention !!!

Ignor them for the first 5 mins, go up tuck them back into bed and give them a kiss. I increased the time by 5 mins between each time of going up, during each time NEVER talking to the children, cos then they will think that they've got your attention !!!

If they got up to play with their toys, i'd simply take the toys away from them and tuck them back into bed, still without talking.

For me, this went on for about a week, and eventually my children all learnt that the routine is, tea bath and when put to bed they stay in bed.

I hope that the advice helps, but as the saying goes mum knows best...... you know your child better than anyone else and you will find it within yourself to do what is best


Annette

Kristen - posted on 01/05/2010

:) well, mabey high strung is a bad interpretation? But you do seem stressed way out and your baby will sense that at all times. Asking for help is always good, and my suggestion is to breath:)

Lianne - posted on 01/05/2010

Quoting Kristen :

My youngest is 7 months, hes down by 8, but usually up once around 2 then up for good at about 5. keeping a baby up till 11 is even more silly than it is unrealistic. Put her down at 8, go to bed around 9 or 10, if all is calm in her enviornment she will sleep. Because all 4 of my kids are the same, if were up buisy, they wont sleep untill were settled.

i have been putting her down at 8,

r u telling me 2 go 2 bed around 9 or 10 ???

i live on my own wiv her so there is no noise when she is asleep, shes alseep upstairs and i watch tv downstairs

Jennifer - posted on 01/05/2010

i know it hard but u have to stay strong. try getting her up one morning about half seven feed her get her dressed play wid her all the time til its gets to 12pm give her lunch then see if she will go to sleep if she does let her have 2 hrs no more then wen she wakes play wid her again then dinner maybe read sum story then around half 6 dim all the lights keep all noises low n give her a bath then a bottle n story give her abig love n say its bye bye n tell her u love her n put her to bed if she cries go in every 3 mins n lie her bk down wid no eye contact n say nothing keep doing til she asleep ask sumone if they cn help u take turns.