HI MOMS R U LETTING YOUR KIDS GET THE SWINE FLU VACCINE OR IS U AFFAID LIKE ME

Kate CP - posted on 10/26/2009

This thread will be closed to further discussion due to it's size. If you wish to continue this conversation there is another thread on the H1N1 vaccine that you can respond to. Thank you ladies for all your input!



Kate Capehart

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Stephanie - posted on 10/26/2009

My daughter just recovered from the swine flu and doing fine so I don't know if she needs the vaccine. She did have the "dead" vaccine for the regular flu and I'm waiting to see if there will be a "dead" vaccine for the Swine flu now. I can only speak for myself on good verse bad on getting he shot but if you see what the kids go through it might help you with your decision! I will take any precautions I can to keep my daughter from going through what she did. I thank GOD she made it through the illness and PRAY she will never get it again! Good luck with your decisions!!

Gayla - posted on 10/26/2009

No shots. Just don't feel good about it. Just a feeling I can't shake.

Tomika - posted on 10/26/2009

no! I dont think there has been enough research on the vaccine yet. This swine flu stuff just came out in april now all of a sudden there is a vaccine for it. I dont know if I am doing the right thing or not but I am just putting my kids in Gods hands. Teaching them about hand hygeine, covering their mouths with their elbows, when we are in public, they have to turn off the focet with a clean paper towel because if they turn it off with the paper towel that they just dried their hands off with the germs can come through (wicking). The door handle that is assumed to be clean that is inside the bathroom needs to be opened with a paper towel cause some people dont wash their hands after they go. As a nursing student our DON is saying that we have to get it, if iam able to fight it I am because this is my body and I dont think that some zDON should be able to tell us what we have to put in it if we are not comfortable.

Jill - posted on 10/26/2009

no way, i will not let my kids be guinnea pigs for the government there are too many unknown side effects. as a nurse may be forced to get it, but i'll try to get out of it

Pam - posted on 10/26/2009

Absolutely NOT getting the vaccine!

Naomi - posted on 10/26/2009

No!!!!

Elizabeth - posted on 10/26/2009

The only reason we have to get the both seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccines is because my son is immuno-compromised. Otherwise we wouldn't, because there's lots of people who need it more: very young children, very old people, pregnant women and others who have a compromised immune system.

Besides, my office of 6 people all got it, and we lived.

Lisa - posted on 10/26/2009

Thanks : )

Melinda - posted on 10/26/2009

my 7 year old daughter got the H1N1 mist a couple of weeks ago. she has not had any problems. i, like you, was worried about the shot. i decided that asking people online and reading things on the internet were not the way to go. the best thing to do is talk to your doctor about it. there is a lot of misinformation online, and it can really confuse you. you have to do what's best for you, not what's best for anybody else. in our county, the only people that have died from H1N1 thus far are children. i was worried, but my doctor recommended it, and i trust her more than i trust a bunch of info online. you really should talk to your doctor.

Lisa - posted on 10/26/2009

We are not getting the shot.

Tiffany - posted on 10/26/2009

Hey all....my name is Tiffany and my hubby works for the dept of heatlh where we live and none of us are getting the shot. The only thing we are getting is the seasonal one and taking all other precautions such as washing hands, sneezing and couching into our sleeves....yada yada yada. Best advice is stay home when ill to avoid the spread.

Sequana - posted on 10/26/2009

i personally think its to many questions wit that vaccination. my oldest son got it an hes ok so far an that was because i didnt take him to the doctor but my other 5 have not

Cleo - posted on 10/26/2009

My boys have been immunised with the 'normal' NZ standard vaccinations at each stage. But as for being given the swine flu shot.......Im not against people wanting to get it, but I believe my boys do not need it as they arent an immediate threat to it.

It is up to parents to do what they feel is necessary for their child/children and shouldnt feel like its wrong or right to get vaccinated for swine flu.

Kelly - posted on 10/26/2009

I've decided against getting the H1N1 shot because I've to many bad things about it. Like just recently that the people that live around well 20 of them got the shot then they ended up with it. Also there is 2 confirmed cases of it here as well. So no thanks. I will do what I can to prevent any type of sickness that comes my way and including that. And if my kids do get it will deal with it then.

Brigid - posted on 10/26/2009

This is informative. I would be interested to know if it was generated from the same industry that creates the vaccine?

It is all personal choice at the end of the day, and which type of research you trust. I think there are gretaer issues threatening our kids every day, like road accidents, without creating paranoia around diseases.

Oh and I still don't know anyone who has actually been tested and diagnosed as having it.

Emilia - posted on 10/26/2009

NO!!!! not letting them get the vaccine who knows what bad side affects it has will they have a vaccine for that i bet you they don't so i will take the proper percautions and take my chances.

Jeannette - posted on 10/26/2009

I'm definately leery about that one...I'd rather let em ride out the flu and get em anti-bi's if nessesary...also was sent an E-mail, that to prevent and/or treat it you can gargle with warm salt water drink warm liquids such as coffee and tea and cotton swab the inside of noses with warm salt water

Heather - posted on 10/26/2009

so...I was ganna avoid it...but that e-mail changed my mind. I am 27 my husband 26 and my girls are 11,9 and 4 so we are all 5 at risk. We WILL be vaccinated. NO ONE has even seen the true effects of this illness yet, winter is around the corner when the virus will become it's strongest!

Heather - posted on 10/26/2009

here is an informative e-mail I received recently.



Dear McKenzie Pediatrics Families:



We've been receiving lots of questions about viral emails and inflammatory media soundbites regarding the new H1N1 ("swine") flu vaccine, and we wish to answer some or all of the claims being made against it. Regrettably, there are a few irresponsible people out there peddling pseudo-science and using scary-sounding chemical names to frighten people against receiving this (or any) vaccine, or having their children receive it.



What follows is a list of their claims, rebutted:





Claim 1: "The swine flu is simply another flu. It is not unusually deadly."

From Science-Based Medicine:



"Not unusually deadly." Oh good, then we can expect only ~36,000 people [the "usual" number of annual flu deaths in the U.S.] to die from it this year! Why does that number not reassure me?

Let’s see, it [swine flu] circulated during the summer, when flu doesn’t circulate, is uncommon in the elderly, is disproportionately infecting and hospitalizing younger people, it has a much higher incidence of ARDS (Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome) requiring mechanical ventilation and heart-lung bypass (ECMO) than its seasonal counterpart (Australia reported 68 cases requiring ECMO vs. 4 the prior year), and it has a population which under the age of 60 is nearly 100% susceptible.

Yep, sounds like any old flu to me.





Between August 30 and October 10th of this year, more than 2000 Americans died from swine flu. From the months of April through August, about 600 Americans died of the illness. Remember that in most years, between April and October, almost NO Americans die of influenza. We are still early in the spread of this illness, folks, and we haven't even yet begun to see cases of regular seasonal flu. We've got a long way to go this fall and winter before we see the light at the tunnel's end with regards to swine flu - which is why vaccination is still very important.





Claim 2: "The H1N1 vaccine is a new vaccine, and there wasn't enough time to test its safety."



From an OP-ED by Paul A. Offit, the chief of the infectious diseases division of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.



The H1N1 virus revealed itself too late for it to be included in this year’s seasonal flu vaccine. But the H1N1-specific vaccine was manufactured in the same way as the regular vaccine: The shot form is made by growing the virus in hen’s eggs, purifying it and then treating it with a chemical that inactivates it. This technology has been used to make influenza vaccines for 60 years, and it has an excellent safety record. The nasal spray form is made by adapting the virus to temperatures below those typically found in the body. This allows it to reproduce in the relatively cool lining of the nose, but not in the lungs where it could cause harm. This technology has been used safely for more than 30 years. FluMist, a seasonal flu vaccine used since 2003, is made the same way.

The H1N1 vaccine has already been given to thousands of volunteers to determine whether it could protect them from the virus and to make sure that it caused no adverse reactions. Only then did the Food and Drug Administration license it.







Claim 3: "Dangerous adjuvants are in vaccines."

For some vaccines, substances called adjuvants (usually aluminum salts) are added to increase immune system response & spread a smaller quantity of antigen over more doses.

For one thing, the H1N1 vaccine doesn't have any. Secondly, even if there were aluminum salts in the vaccine, that wouldn't be a reason to fear it. There is no evidence aluminum-containing vaccines are a serious health risk or justify changes to immunization practice. Aluminum salts have been used as adjuvants for about 80 years, and there's much more aluminum in breast milk & infant formula than there is in the vaccines. Per the FDA:



During the first 6 months of life, infants could receive about 4 milligrams of aluminum from vaccines. That’s not very much: a milligram is one-thousandth of a gram and a gram is the weight of one-fifth of a teaspoon of water. During the same period, babies will also receive about 10 milligrams of aluminum in breast milk, about 40 milligrams in infant formula, or about 120 milligrams in soy-based formula.

All babies are either breast-fed or bottle-fed. Because both breast milk and infant formula contain aluminum, all babies have small quantities of aluminum in their bloodstreams all the time. The amount is very small: about 5 nanograms (billionths of a gram) per milliliter of blood (about one-fifth of a teaspoon). Indeed, the quantity of aluminum in vaccines is so small that even after an injection of vaccines, the amount of aluminum in a baby’s blood does not detectably change. In contrast, the amount of aluminum in the bloodstreams of people who suffer health problems from aluminum is at least 100 times greater than the amount found in the bloodstreams of healthy people.





Claim 4: "A flu vaccine can give you the flu... or worse."



The H1N1 vaccine comes in two forms; inactivated & live attenuated. It is impossible for the inactivated form of the vaccine to cause infection since the virus particles are dead. The live attenuated form used for the Monovalent Nasal-Spray Flu Vaccine ("FluMist"), contains weakened H1N1 virus. The risk of infection is extremely small from the nasal spray, and there are guidelines from the CDC on who should & shouldn't get the live attenuated form.

When you hear stories about how someone has come down with the Flu after getting a Flu shot, they more than likely were exposed to the Flu before being vaccinated. It takes two weeks for a person's body to build up immunity to the virus after being vaccinated, so if you were infected before you got the shot, you can still get sick.

One of the big arguments made by those against H1N1 vaccination is the risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome (a rare disorder in which a person’s own immune system damages the nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis), which was claimed to be a side-effect of the 1976 vaccine. While the CDC is monitoring this year's vaccine for any anomalies, it's important to keep in mind that the 1976 incidence of Guillain-Barré was barely higher than the normal rate, and you would still have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike, an airplane crash, or falling down than contracting Guillain-Barré.

From the CDC:



In 1976, there was a small risk of GBS following influenza (swine flu) vaccination (approximately 1 additional case per 100,000 people who received the swine flu vaccine). That number of GBS cases was slightly higher than the background rate for GBS. Since then, numerous studies have been done to evaluate if other flu vaccines were associated with GBS. In most studies, no association was found, but two studies suggested that approximately 1 additional person out of 1 million vaccinated people may be at risk for GBS associated with the seasonal influenza vaccine. It is important to keep in mind that severe illness and possible death can be associated with influenza, and vaccination is the best way to prevent influenza infection and its complications.



And of course, there is "post hoc ergo propter hoc." In the week after getting a vaccine, there are a fair amount of people that will be in car accidents. However, no logical person is going to argue that vaccines cause car accidents.





Claim 5: "The H1N1 vaccine & other vaccines contain the mercury-based preservative Thimerosal, which contributes to the development of autism and other brain development disorders."

This is a biggie, since it was a prime suspect of those linking vaccines to autism. Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. When people hear "mercury," the gears inside the brain's imagination machine start turning. However, thimerosal is a derivative of ethylmercury, not methylmercury. They are entirely different chemical entities.



Expert consultation and data presented to the Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) indicate that the pharmacokinetic profile of ethyl mercury is substantially different from that of methyl mercury. The half-life of ethyl mercury is short (less than one week) compared to methyl mercury (1.5 months) making exposure to ethyl mercury in blood comparatively brief. Further, ethyl mercury is actively excreted via the gut unlike methyl mercury that accumulates in the body. (Source)



To put this in perspective, a vaccination has less ethylmercury (in the form of thimerosal) than the amount of methylmercury an adult/kid might possibly get from eating a tuna sandwich. The association between thimerosal in vaccines & autism has been a failed hypothesis as study after study has shown no linkage.

From Clinical Infectious Diseases (CID):



Three ecological studies performed in 3 different countries compared the incidence of autism with thimerosal exposure from vaccines. In each case, the nationwide removal of thimerosal—which occurred in 1992 in Europe and in 2001 in the United States—allowed robust comparisons of vaccination with thimerosal‐containing and thimerosal‐free products.



[In every country where it has been studied (Denmark, Sweden, Canada, the U.K. and the U.S.), numbers of cases of autism continued to RISE despite removal of thimerosal from vaccines, thereby disproving a link.]



From the FDA:



In 2004, the Institutes Of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee issued its final report, examining the hypothesis that vaccines, specifically the MMR vaccines and thimerosal containing vaccines, are causally associated with autism. In this report, the committee incorporated new epidemiological evidence from the U.S., Denmark, Sweden, and the United Kingdom, and studies of biologic mechanisms related to vaccines and autism since its report in 2001. The committee concluded that this body of evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism, and that hypotheses generated to date concerning a biological mechanism for such causality are theoretical only. Further, the committee stated that the benefits of vaccination are proven and the hypothesis of susceptible populations is presently speculative, and that widespread rejection of vaccines would lead to increases in incidences of serious infectious diseases like measles, whooping cough and Hib bacterial meningitis.





Keep in mind that the single-dose, pre-filled syringes of flu vaccine do not even contain thimerosal. Nor does the FluMist, the nasal spray version of the vaccine. Only the multi-dose vials, which must be entered and re-entered ten times, contain the preservative, to safeguard agains bacterial contamination. No nurse wants to inject bacteria directly into the muscle of a child.





Claim 6: "There are too many vaccinations given to children. Too many, too soon."



While it's true there are more vaccines than ever against specific viruses and bacteria on the routine schedule, the vaccine load is actually much less than it once was.



Although the number of recommended childhood vaccines has increased during the past 30 years, with advances in protein chemistry and recombinant DNA technology, the immunologic load has actually decreased. The 14 vaccines given today contain less than 200 bacterial and viral proteins or polysaccharides, compared with more than 3000 of these immunological components in the 7 vaccines administered in 1980.



Study after study of this hypothesis have found the evidence lacking for "vaccine overload." It is simply another scare tactic used to frighten parents into not vaccinating their children. Every day your child's body fights off thousands of bacteria and viruses...if we're really worried about overloading the immune system, we ought to all live in sterile bubbles.



I hope this helps. Information about our upcoming flu vaccine clinics will be sent out sometime early this week...keep an eye on your email inbox!



Dr. Todd

Brigid - posted on 10/26/2009

This is my personal opinion only (obviously) but as far as I am aware in my research the vaccine is more poisonous to your system than the actual flu - also confirmed by a family member who is a bio chemist in the virus industry. It's a major marketing ploy by the pharmaceutical companies. It's a flu and unless you are typically prone to complications ie elderly or terminally ill, it will just run it's course like any other and provide you with new antibodies to fight further infection. Trust your body and your intuition, they know what to do.

Kristy - posted on 10/26/2009

I was just at the Dr.'s today w/my daughter so she could get the flu shot and asked her what she thought about my daughter getting the H1N1 shot...she said that she feels it is a good thing and her and her husband have already gotten it, it's not avail for kids yet in our area but she did say that when it is she will be giving her own kids the shot.....So I do feel a little better about giving that to my daughter to insure that she will stay Healthy. :)

Bethany - posted on 10/26/2009

I personally do not get the flu shots or will not be getting the H1N1 shot, now as for my children because I have twin boys that were premature and have Asthma issues, I did get them the regular flu shot and we do that every year because of their age and health issues. No I will not let them get the other shot because I just do not feel that they have enough test studies on that and it came out way to quick. I guess you just need to speak with your family DR. and go with your gut feelings.

Roni - posted on 10/26/2009

I never let my kids get the flu vaccine, and they won't be getting this shot either! The shot is nothing more than the virus itself, they give you the shot if your body doesn't react then you're pretty much immuned. That's why they tell you when the Dr. offers you the flu shot, that there is a possibility of it making you sick. I think I'll take my chances...Put my faith in god, not a needle.

Pauline - posted on 10/26/2009

We will be getting the vaccine as the H1N1 resulting in deaths is greater than the unknown of the vaccine in long term effects. But it is a hard choice to make, and only you can make that choice. Let God lead you to make that right choice for you.

Kymberly - posted on 10/26/2009

A day late and a dollar short. My entire family got it before we had a chance to get the shot. I am 30, I have a 12 year old son, 8 year old son, 4 year old son and a 2 year old daughter. My husband and I did discuss the option and all though uneasy about not getting it for my daughter who wont actually be two till mid Novembe, we decided against it. When my oldest got sent home from school I called their doc and my daughter was prescribed Cama-Flu. (Not sure that is spelt right) We all braved through it my 4 year old had it the longest with the worst of it being fever and this nagging cough. My daughter never really did get sick, she has a little cough now and then but that is it. So I guess if you have doubt and your family is generally healthy and not exposed to things like cigarette smoke or smog it may be ok not to get the vaccine.

LaWanda - posted on 10/26/2009

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! As a matter of fact my daughter will not be getting any more vaccinations period!!! They are hurting more than helping!

Jenifer - posted on 10/26/2009

Kristen - I agree with the vast majority of your post, but I wanted to mention that some flu shots (both seasonal and H1N1) contain thimerosal. Those are the multi-dose vials, where it is used as a preservative. There are versions of both flu shots that are reserved for children that contain no thimerosal (though there is no evidence it is harmful). All one needs to do is request the preservative-free version of the shot. The MMR vaccine, however, does not - and never has - contained thimerosal.

Kristen - posted on 10/26/2009

amen!

Kristen - posted on 10/26/2009

Well I have done a lot of research on vaccines! Also I am in the health care field. And just wanted to let everyone know that the flu & H1N1 vaccines ARE NOT LIVE VIRUSES! YOU CAN NOT GET SICK FROM THEM! Also, I am still up in the air about getting my daughter hers when she turns 6 months.. the risks of her getting it can be very dangerous if she does get either or! I dont knwo what to do yet. But if you decide no because its such a new vaccine.. well did u know that the flu shot is a new shot every year? they dont use the same virus every year. THE ONLY thing you worry about in shot is Thermosil! Which is a mercury based preservative. MMR shot does include that.. BUT the flu shot & H1N1 do not! BUT im up in the air also! Most cases are treatable, some are not mainly due to dehydration. I just have prayed & think ive decided to let her have it! Dont know yet though :(

Nicci - posted on 10/26/2009

No way! www.infowars.com and www.prisionplanet.com to find out more

Jenifer - posted on 10/26/2009

Quoting denise:

Quoting Vicki:

I don't know about the USA, but in Australia, they wont give the Swine Flu vaccine to kids under 10. Read what you like into that....

Bu, why arent they giving it to children under 10? Does anyone know?

Its because their vaccines are manufactured differently and their testing and licensing process is different. In Australia, they haven't completed the clinical trials for children. In the US, they have. Everything I've read seems to indicate they intend to offer the vaccine to children under 10, assuming the clinical trails go as expected.

Shannon - posted on 10/26/2009

My husband, my 2 boys and I had the swine flu and 2 of us have asthma and we made it through. We just drank lots of fluids kept the fever down as much as we could. My sister works for an Allergy Clinic and the doctors there told her not to take the H1N1 shot because there were too many "unknowns" about it.

Noha - posted on 10/26/2009

I gave my five years old son the flu vaccination a couple of years ago, and he lost his balance completely(could not walk) for 10 days, we had to stay in the hospital the all time to go through all kind of tests, and finally the doctors said that it was a reaction to the flu vaccine, which I knew after that there were lots of cases similar to my son's in the 70's between seniors and kids because of the flu vaccine given at that time..... so definitely I will not give it to my kids.

Erika - posted on 10/26/2009

my mother inlaw works in a hospital lab and she was talking to one of the nurses and the nurse said that they had all recieved a FACT sheet from ny state, one of the side effects listed for the H1N1 flu shot was behavioral changes,,, due to that i will not be giving my 2 kids the h1n1 but i will get them their reg flu shot. hope this helps:)

Sarah Marie - posted on 10/26/2009

Unfortunately kids are dying-and some children have immune systems that are compromised that other-wise are healthy kids-if they pick up a cold-they are at higher risk. As a parent-you do what you can to protect them, immunizations are another line of defense. Its a personal choice-and when they get sick with the flu (swine or other wise) they are not being admitted to many hospitals ( I work in a hospital and there were 0 pts on the pediatric floor this weekend) because parents are having to tough it out at home-but some kids get REALLY sick-so you have to weigh the worth to you and to your family.

Melissa - posted on 10/26/2009

Quoting denise:

Quoting Vicki:

I don't know about the USA, but in Australia, they wont give the Swine Flu vaccine to kids under 10. Read what you like into that....

Bu, why arent they giving it to children under 10? Does anyone know?

Probably because they don't want to be held accountable for childrens deaths or disablements...

Melissa - posted on 10/26/2009

There is no way anyone is injecting me or my children with that vaccine...it just hasn't been tested appropriately. Both my son and myself actually got swine flu...yeah it wasn't pleasant but we recovered. If something isn't right with the vaccine can people recover from those side effects?

Ticha - posted on 10/26/2009

no way! I don't let them get anything I haven't had. It scares me. They say its safe. Then a year later find a problem.

Julie - posted on 10/25/2009

No way...

Tavi - posted on 10/25/2009

my dr. recommends it but im not really a fan of the flu shot, so i just pray over her and praise God that none of us will be infected,it has been woking for me b/c my daughter is in preK and like 3 of her classmates and the teacher have been infected and my child is fine,and the shot does not prevent you from getting the flu it just guarantees that it wont become fatal,and if you have healty kids you have nothing to worry about!!!

User - posted on 10/25/2009

no, i think the h1n1 vaccine was created too fast....

Rachel - posted on 10/25/2009

Post a reply! I am not letting my children get it. I think they came up with it way to quick. Besides i take a vet asst. class and my teacher says the media is hyping it up bigger than it really is. it affects every one differently but symptoms are supposed to milder than the flu. I did not vaccinate my kids fo chx ox either. i got lucky one one caught it

Anitra - posted on 10/25/2009

im so not afraid im just not allowing my son or myself to get that vaccine im sure that there is a catch to it. there just advertising it too much for my liking.

Kimberly - posted on 10/25/2009

no we are not getting the swine flu vac but we did get the seaonal flu vac. I really do not feel my child is in danger of catching the swine flu because he does not go to day care and is home with me everyday

Laura - posted on 10/25/2009

I disagree. To not vaccinate is careless and dangerous for your child and others. If there is a known health reason not to vaccinate that is one thing, but just because you as a parent have fears,thats not right. God gave man the ability and the intelligence to create these vaccines to save lives. These vaccines were tested and there were clinical trials done. No one has died from the vaccine. I have received flu shots as long as I can remember and never had a problem. The shot does NOT make you sick. If you are concerned about the thimersol in the multi dose vials, ask for a prefilled dose or the nasal. Neither one of these have thimersol. For those mom's who refuse to vaccinate their children, I would hate to see your child come down with the H1N1 and end up dying from it. That would be an awful thing a parent would have to live with. Knowing you could have prevented it but didnt because of fear.

Jennifer - posted on 10/25/2009

Everyone has an opinion about this hot topic. I personally say don't get it. This vaccine was pushed through. We do not know enough about it yet. Also flu vaccines only protect you against that specific strain you received. Viruses are constantly changing, therefore you are not completely protected. The best defense against H1N1 is good health habits; wash your hands and childrens hands regularly, keep your hands away from your face, eat a healthy diet, drink lots of water and get plenty of sleep. Wishing everyone a healthy flu season.

Margret - posted on 10/25/2009

Okay, this may sound crazy, but here's what I think: It's not the flu virus that kills people; it's the staph infection that invades weakened lungs after the virus has stopped being active. So, I'm not getting the vaccine, I'm keeping my house clean. Bleach is your friend. You don't have to put a cup of bleach in a load of laundry to kill bacteria - that's just marketing. A tablespoon of bleach well mixed in the water in a load of laundry - even your dark clothes! - will not fade your fabrics and will kill most bacteria. Use diluted bleach in your bathroom and your kitchen. Also, gargle with warm salt water every day and swab your nose with a Q-tip dipped in hydrogen peroxide. If your child is school age, they can gargle and swab, too. This practice keeps viruses at bay. Vaccinations are a personal decision; but I feel that they throw these vaccines together way too quickly - they do not go through the rigorous tests that drugs go through before being approved by the FDA and we all know how often a drug gets approved which should not. There. These are my two cents.

Laura - posted on 10/25/2009

Quoting Anna Maria:

I have no intentions of getting nor letting my kids get that shot. I have a much safer way to help boost our immune system with all natural products from Ardyss international. I am hearing too many horror stories of the side affects to the swine flu shot. Please feel free to email me at bobiesbybabydohl@yahoo.com and I can give you more info on how all natural products can benefit you much better with no side effects

The natural products do NOT protect you from the flu, this is misleading. The only protection we have is the vaccine which is SAFE. There have been no horror stories regarding any side effects. No one has reported to have died from the vaccine.  It is safe. The natural remedies can cause a false sense of security for some who may need to vaccinate. Someone with a chronic disease could die if they believe in the so called "natural" remedies.  Be smart people get your vaccinations.

Bekki - posted on 10/25/2009

Quoting Amy:

Hello, it is rampant in our community. No major complications as of yet, though. It has only been about a week since everyone started getting sick. My 1 yr old and my 5yr old are both getting both vaccines. While I know it can be treated with OTC meds, and is not as severe as the media is making it out to be, I do not want either of my kids hospitalized with this. Our 5-yr old has asthma, and our 1 year old is so young. My husband and I have been getting the seasonal flu shot for years. The H1N1 vaccine is made by the same companies in the same way the seasonal flu shot is made. It is made very differently than in the 1970's when Guillane-Barre Syndrome occurred.

Guillane Barre syndrome still occurs to this day. And it is not made differently in relation to the risks of it. It is still made in chicken eggs just like the normal flu vaccine which poses the same risk to those allergic to eggs. It has a warning that those allergic to the seasonal flu shot should not get this shot as it is manufactured the same way.